Learn about the AMD B550 vs. X570 & B450 chipset differences here: ua-cam.com/video/qfTPLF8OKK4/v-deo.html Watch our AMD B550 PC build here: ua-cam.com/video/HkP5XEDXYaI/v-deo.html Learn about the "power reporting deviation" and Ryzen "burn-out" concerns people had recently over here: ua-cam.com/video/10b8CS7wQcM/v-deo.html The best way to support our work is through our store: store.gamersnexus.net/ Find Buildzoid on AHOC: ua-cam.com/channels/rwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ.html
Pretty happy about B450m Bazooka Max Wifi which I got for $90. sorry not sorry. I'm using gen 3 NVMe and a Nvidia card so why waste money on a $200 b550.
Hi, I was wondering if mounting the m2 ssd on the rear slot is better for temperature in a case like the NZXT H1, which blows warm air inside the case (so maybe the cooling plate for m2 has the opposite effect of cooling). Can you tell which alternative is better? Thanks
That's all good and all until you forget that the reset button is wired to clear CMOS or someone else pushes it while your computer is turned on then you're screwed lol.
Would be nice, but risky if there is anyone living with you or friends coming over. Most people's problem solving stops at pressing reset and you can't even explain to them what bios is.
Seriously, *props* to not saying "should" you buy this board or not. You're alluding to making your own decisions and thinking for yourself, rather than taking someone else's word as Gospel. I love it. Small detail that matters for my appreciation for people, anyways.
Hey Buildzoid! Thanks for doing these videos. Just got a 3200g and learning about VRMs and APU specific details is really helpful for putting together my build.I know APUs aren't typical builds, so that's why I appreciate you shining light and demystifying it! Especially for a lay person like me who basically started from knowing nothing about phase counts. Hungry for more, keep it up!
I really like the detailed reviews from this channel. I'm glad there are good mini-ITX motherboards, gives me confidence I'll find good hardware decently priced for my PC upgrade
Just got this board as it was on offer... it’s so beautiful and really heavy. I’m coming from an A88 (?) on the FM2 platform too, so the quality upgrade is HUGE for me. Love it! I was shocked it doesn’t support the 3200G or 3400G though!
I love these deep dives into board performance and expectations. It helps so much when choosing between 4 manufacturers across 3 size ranges and 2 or 4 chipsets
No fan is a big deal for some people. One of the main Plus points for the B550 over X570. Only thing is all the other B550 itx boards STILL have a fan somewhere for the chipset or shoved into the I/O cover. This board will be amazing for a 3600/3700x in an HTPC build.
@@Safetytrousers I'm using the X570 I Pro WiFi, and the chipset fan is constantly on. It sounds exactly like loud coil whine, which is insanely annoying. Couldn't preorder this B550 version quickly enough. I've avoided using the primary M.2 slot on my current board, as it would block all airflow to the main part of the chipset heatsink, and probably make the fan ramp up even more.
@@JasperCrowe I use the same board and I can't hear that fan, in an very small case. My two 12cm fans on the 240m waterblock are loud enough and you can adjust the speed of that fan anyway.
LMAO, get the beefy one or the pricey one. Why watch 30min vid for that. Are you that stupid that you can't make decisions for yourself or research stuff yourself. Questioning your schooling
Ashish Diarrhea hmm I think I got that right. Anyways I fail to see how watching a 30-60 minute informational video that dives deeper in to the VRM's and such on a motherboard is not doing the research myself. After all I had to look at several motherboards then I narrowed it down to a few after doing reading, which by the way is doing research. Once I've done that I then turn to other sources for information on the subject matter to further my knowledge on the product. Sounds like a much better way to make an educated decision rather than... Huh ThIS BoRED IS bIG AnD ExpESivE I BuY It. With That I bid you farewell internet troll have a wonderful day.
@@Olds79Starfire Buildzoid is polite to companies giving him free stuff, but still tells people the problems he finds with their products. I would trust his honesty, only problem is that his issues with motherboards tend to be irrelevant to most viewers
The VRM temps on this thing are nuts. I went from x570 aorus elite to b550i aorus pro ax on a 5900X, VRM temps went from 76C max to 48C max with the same bios values. Genuinely impressed by this board.
I've bought too for 200 euros! It is normal that on turn on i got every time a soft brick (black screen), and for letting work the pc i must reset every time? Thanks
You mentioned the thermal sensors working, but looking at the board, i see an ITE SuperIO. It would be nice to see an analysis of which board have which SuperIO. It's something i usually don't find in spec sheets, and even when i write the manufacturer, they tell me they are not sure, so then i take a chance, receive it, and i'm not able to have thermal information off the bat, especially since i use Linux and i mostly compile at maximum speed, sometimes for hours, i need to know if the chipset need extra cooling or not, and i shouldn't have to put hours in reverse-engineering the SuperIO or try to guess a somewhat working driver override. Manufacturers should have more pressure on putting technology we can actually work with. If a board manufacturer would offer me 100% usable and accurate temperature and voltage sensors in Windows and Linux, even if it was 100$ more expensive, it would be the one i'd buy.
I just bought this board to replace my defective Gigabyte Pro AMD B450 ITX (No graphics). When I bought it, I was thinking, "Man, the price really went up from when I bought my last Gig ITX B450." But when I got it, I was really impressed, This thing weighs a ton and feels like an iron anvil. It's really built. The old B450 didn't even have a backing plate. I just had the same thing happen to this board, no post, no video. Sometimes it will post, and sometimes it will post, but most of the time it won't, and the no post no video problem is all over the web. I don't know what's wrong with these 450 and 550 boards, but there is something lurking in some of them. A lot of reports are with the Ryzen 3600 CPU and the 5600.
Mine has the same issue NO post/video , under warranty service for now. Don’t trust the service gigabyte has to offer or rather no confidence in them. Just burnt my $ . After a shutdown would not post, tried everything 😢. Shame! To add: 3700x and 3080ti
I just build a 3900X system with this board in an NZXT H1 case and well I was expecting the system to be crazy hot and for my surprise it wasn't, the 3900X going up to 72c under 3dmark firestrike/timespy with PBO set to auto, I'm seeing speeds of 4.625Ghz with firmware F2a, another thing is I was expecting the nvme drive to be crazy hot since the chipset heatsink blocks the air flow to the M.2 heatsink , yup that block is not it it's covering it and not touching it at all, well it still works. idles at 33c on ambient of 25 and doesnt go over 41c
In my country, the shops had issues pricing this specific motherboard correcty, so it was available for preorder for $150 initially and even down to $130 for a short time before they noticed it. Needless to say, I will own two of these soon ;)
Just for any one looking at this board after 2 years. My 5950x on PBO hits 200Amps easily and is capped by the motherboard (not this one but a 450i). Some of the newer Malaysian 5000s chips need more amperage than the Taiwan made ones. So, definitely get a board with good VRMs and maybe better cooling.
the only reason 19W is a bit hot for VRM is because everyone uses the shitty alu block design as "cooler" what happened to the good old copper fin stacks like on Asus P5?
@@FinalKingX even tech enthusiasts prefer looks over performance which is a sad reality the rest of us have to deal with.. why do you think all the manufactures threw everything and the kitchen sink at RGB support, lol.
It's not just the badly designed heatsinks, it's the number of folks who use AIOs that don't provide any airflow to the VRMs at all. It should also be noted that the 200A CPU current / 19W VRM heat output numbers would only be reachable under XOC LN2/Dice, which you wouldn't do in a case and wouldn't do with this motherboard.
@@sirmonkey1985 oh, i thought a lot of tech enthusiasts would care about their system's performance more than looks. I guess i was wrong, thanks for pointing out my mistake.
Most vendors here have them on pre-order for around 180-190 euro but I found a place that offers them for 130, a whopping 8 euro more than a b450i so no brainer. Can't wait!
Well you are lucky.. In my country all b550 boards are soo ff expensive its insane. Any b550 is from 200 to 250e..... The b450 tomahawk max is 125...... I dont think people gonna spend double the money for b550 here. And board like tomahawk max is gonna be enough for ages for me.
the 90Amp parts are just for overall life of the components and durability, electrical components need to be at max 80% utilization anything lower just increases the expected life span
So, between this, and it's X570 brother (The X570 Pro Wi-Fi), which one should I get for an AMD 3600? The B550 is currently at $180 and the X570 is at $220 (when it's in stock, that is). There are a couple of things to take into account: 1) I am buying into the 500 series MoBos because I plan on buying a 3600 right now, and then a couple of years down the line, switch to a Zen 3 CPU when the 3600 is no longer competent (and the Zen 3 CPUs have gone down in price). 2) I don't find the $40 difference to be a problem, but I don't wanna over-spend on things that I won't use (ie, I don't care for USB connectivity for front panels, having 2 PCIE4 NVME slots), that being said, I DO plan on overclocking the 3600 to at least 4.3mHz (I have an AIO that's more than capable to handle the heat). AND, in the future, when I change CPUs, I also want to be able to OC perhaps an R7 (I don't think that I'll ever go for an R9, unless I can get one for pretty cheap). 3) I don't know if this makes any difference, but I was planning on getting some pretty good RAM, 3666-4000mHz, which I intend to OC to its top limit (whatever it might be xD). So yeah, it would be easy to say "just go for the X570", but again, I want to get the cheapest MoBo that satisfies my previous needs/wants. Any help you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated! P.S.: Also feel free to ask anything if you feel like it's needed in order to make a decision towards any of the two boards.
Hi, i dont know much about PC but i am planning on getting this motherboard. I just want to check if it can slot at least 2x 8GB RAM card? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
I may be mistaken, but my understanding was that the maximum current ratings for MOSFETS generally assume a perfect, infinite heatsink that stays at 25C no matter how much heat you pump into it. Basically, a system that can't exist in reality. The only way you could actually get to those limits is with sub-ambient cooling, or living in the arctic where the ambient air is ridiculously cold in the first place.
Do not complain too much over the heatsink/heat pipe destroying the chipset. The key to mini itx cooling are our use of downdraft coolers. You only get vrm temp problems because of your use of tower push/pull and AIO ...
I always considered the small form factor to be the excellent base for extreme gaming and overclocking, cooling them with turbojet fans for maximum effect and quietness...
How does it compare to the rest of the B550 ITX's, watched the First reaction, but is the 230usd Asus better ? with its "10" phase VRM ... Also isn't this VRM basically the same as the ASRock ?
good choice! I always considered gigabyte to be the best boards. I’ve been building computers for years too. Built maybe 300 computers and still say gigabyte is the best.
IceGiant confirmed a copper version of their Thermosiphon cooler should come out in 2021. Which they said will hopefully have nickel plating near the cpu to allow liquid metal TIM. Please try to get your hands on one when they're coming out and do a review with LM!
I'm not sure why they didnt put more usb ports on the rear panel for itx b550 boards? Are there just not enough lanes/pcb? Does the wifi 6 take that any lanes?
I got a good deal on the x570i version of this board, waiting for the desktop 4000-series. I am now genuinely curious what the advantages og x570 on itx is. Power delivery looks similar. The b550i comes with better networking (2.5gb vs 1gb on the x570), newer displayport and hdmi output standards and an extra fan header! I would honestly love another fan header on my x570i but only two are free, since there is a chipset fan. Why would you go x570i now that this b550i exists?
The only reason to consider the x570i is if you need two pcie4-ssds, the b550i only does one pcie4 and one pcie3. There really is no real point to be made for the X570 chipset for ITX as the limited space doesn't allow the pcie4-connection to the chipset to be really useful. The b550i is better in terms of price, power delivery, memory support (4866 vs 4400) and io capabilities: Better SOC power delivery (90A vs 40A power stages), marginally betterish CPU power delivery (90A vs 70A power stages), better output filtering with the Panasonic Poscaps vs the Apaq caps in the X570i, newer display out standards (DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.1 vs DP 1.2 and HDMI 2.0), additional fan header, faster networking (2.5gbit realtek vs 1gbit intel).
@@suicon9392 thanks, really helps a lot! Retail price for x570i is more than 30% above the b550i in Norway. Cant imagine why anyone would go for x570i now. The b550i looks like a superb obtion for itx. Luckily i got my x570i for the same price that i was able to flip my msi b450 Ac gaming for, so cant really complain about that 😂
@@SaturnusDK yeah, really weird that they made those choises. They could have keept same design as on x570i and had more profit or sold it cheaper. Not complaining, though. This b550i is a great deal for the features and power delivery designe.
If this MOBO is overkill for a 3600, is the cheaper $130 ITX MOBO a better buy? I've seen buildzoids first impression video and he did not like that board but didn't go into details, so whats the better buy for an ITX and a 3600??
I purchased the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC model, what I can't figure out is why they put a non-functional internal Thunderbolt header on it. When I contacted support they replied "The THB-C header is for possible future Thunderbolt™3 AIC support. It is not mention online or in the manual because it not functional currently. That would still need to go through Intel® certification"
@mikeenslin3009 I'm glad you asked. I would steer clear of this board (the gigabyte to be clear). I had to exchange it for a new one because the wifi didn't work and the drivers wouldn't install. The new one they sent me was slightly revised (V1.1 instead of V1.0) and it still has problems, such as: dimm/ram slots are extra crunchy and it'll take you a few times to seat the ram properly. Something is wrong with the cmos/bios it won't clear/reset properly, I've had to do a bios flashback to get it back to default settings. It's no joke, the worst motherboard I've ever bought. I've tried a few different CPUs in it and no-matter-what, it's super finicky about ram overclock/timing tuning, the bog standard 3200 MT/s CL16 XMP profile on my ram isn't fully stable on this board. I would buy anything but this haha. Hope this helps
Can you connect from Type-c of this motherboard to 3 monitors through MST hub in addition to HDMI x1 and DisplayPort x2? or is this Type C of this motherboard is the one without Alternative mode, which has no video output?
For just a gaming pc with no want for any pcie expansion besides a gpu is this a better board for memory overclocking / i have always had empty dimm slots shouldn't i go for this kind of board
mITX is generally more expensive for what you get due to typically having to use 8 layer PCBs. If you don't need a compact build you should generally go full size ATX. That being said, this is going to be my next motherboard.
I'd be willing to sacrifice a lot of features for actually budget ITX am4 options. But it seems like my only option is to drop at the very least £130 on a motherboard with less features than an £80 mATX one. I get that more engineering goes into cramming stuff into such a small space, but surely after doing it enough times some of that difficulty diminishes through experience and practices learned from past generations. Bah, my hand is forced anyway, I'll spend the vanity money, I want my tiny PC.
So is A520 supposed to handle 6 core and lower, b550 8-16 core with caveats if you don’t spend $300, x570 somehow for everything but apus? I feel like 300 and 400 chipsets set us up for expectations that are different with 500 series.
They could have put more USB next to the bottom blue ones, but the problem is the front USB 3.2 header. From what I read, they have to trade off 3.0 if they are going to include 3.2. USB C.
I remember mice and keyboards having trouble with USB 3 10 years ago, but these days? Is it really an issue anymore? Personally, I would prefer if everyone plain stopped implementing ancient USB 2 tech. We don't see USB 1 anymore, for good reason, time for USB 2 to go as well, if anything, it is hindering progress.
My problem is there is no grey area between the low end asrock board and this board. I'm building a 3600 system and the power delivery on this is overkill as stated, but the featureset on the cheap board is practically non existent.
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Pretty happy about B450m Bazooka Max Wifi which I got for $90. sorry not sorry. I'm using gen 3 NVMe and a Nvidia card so why waste money on a $200 b550.
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Hi,
I was wondering if mounting the m2 ssd on the rear slot is better for temperature in a case like the NZXT H1, which blows warm air inside the case (so maybe the cooling plate for m2 has the opposite effect of cooling). Can you tell which alternative is better?
Thanks
I miss these
Am i really gonna watch 30 minutes of motherboard? Edit: yes i did
First time?
And under 30 minutes is his short ones :)
usually, its a 3 hour tour
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30 minutes of Buildzoid is 30 minutes of expanding your mind
...so a 500-series ITX motherboard with no active cooling, decent features and Buildzoid-approved power management? Sold.
same, this was the board i was looking at as well for all the reasons you said but was holding off hoping buildzoid would do a break down on it.
"re -wire your case's reset button to the Clear CMOS jumper"
Wow that's extremely obvious why didn't I do this before.
Evicous Your gf doesn’t own cats or you wouldn’t use a handy bios reset.
@@somebrains5431 Get rid of the cats, save the money on the case, slap that bad boy on top of the box it came in
That's all good and all until you forget that the reset button is wired to clear CMOS or someone else pushes it while your computer is turned on then you're screwed lol.
Would be nice, but risky if there is anyone living with you or friends coming over. Most people's problem solving stops at pressing reset and you can't even explain to them what bios is.
To anyone curious, I've concluded on running one of those cheap $2 momentary power switches to the jumper for ram overclock shenanigans.
I clicked just to hear "Hii guys Buildzoid here"
New video: "Hii guys Buildzoid here" for 10 hours
Hi guys builzoid here ASMR when?
"Hi guys, Actually Buildzoid here, form Hardcore Overclocking"
Please do other B550 ITX boards like: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax, MSI MPG B550I GAMING EDGE WIFI, Asus ROG Strix B550-I Gaming.
TLDR if you want to know to buy this board or not:
17:57
Seriously, *props* to not saying "should" you buy this board or not. You're alluding to making your own decisions and thinking for yourself, rather than taking someone else's word as Gospel.
I love it. Small detail that matters for my appreciation for people, anyways.
Hey Buildzoid! Thanks for doing these videos. Just got a 3200g and learning about VRMs and APU specific details is really helpful for putting together my build.I know APUs aren't typical builds, so that's why I appreciate you shining light and demystifying it! Especially for a lay person like me who basically started from knowing nothing about phase counts. Hungry for more, keep it up!
I really like the detailed reviews from this channel. I'm glad there are good mini-ITX motherboards, gives me confidence I'll find good hardware decently priced for my PC upgrade
Just got this board as it was on offer... it’s so beautiful and really heavy. I’m coming from an A88 (?) on the FM2 platform too, so the quality upgrade is HUGE for me. Love it! I was shocked it doesn’t support the 3200G or 3400G though!
I love these deep dives into board performance and expectations. It helps so much when choosing between 4 manufacturers across 3 size ranges and 2 or 4 chipsets
Buildzoid: *starts talking*
Me: *turn volume up*
Steve: " *BEFORE THAT A MESSAGE FROM OUR SPONSOR...* "
These motherboard reviews are by far the most helpful and educational ones available anywhere. Thank you GN and Buildzoid!
No fan is a big deal for some people. One of the main Plus points for the B550 over X570. Only thing is all the other B550 itx boards STILL have a fan somewhere for the chipset or shoved into the I/O cover. This board will be amazing for a 3600/3700x in an HTPC build.
I don't think the chipset fan on my x570 (C8H) has ever been activated. I certainly haven't heard it.
@@Safetytrousers I'm using the X570 I Pro WiFi, and the chipset fan is constantly on. It sounds exactly like loud coil whine, which is insanely annoying. Couldn't preorder this B550 version quickly enough. I've avoided using the primary M.2 slot on my current board, as it would block all airflow to the main part of the chipset heatsink, and probably make the fan ramp up even more.
@@JasperCrowe My X570 I Pro Wifi chipset fan only comes on with heavy cpu + gpu load. By then the gpu is louder than everything else.
@@JasperCrowe I use the same board and I can't hear that fan, in an very small case. My two 12cm fans on the 240m waterblock are loud enough and you can adjust the speed of that fan anyway.
@@Safetytrousers Have two MSI X570 Unify, and the fan powers up fast on power-on, then is silent all of the rest of the time
GN: Just a picture of a motherboard for the thumbnail.
Me: Nice, buildzoid time.
love buildzoid's mobo breakdowns. helped me decided on my x570 board.
*Decide
LMAO, get the beefy one or the pricey one. Why watch 30min vid for that. Are you that stupid that you can't make decisions for yourself or research stuff yourself. Questioning your schooling
Ashish Diarrhea hmm I think I got that right. Anyways I fail to see how watching a 30-60 minute informational video that dives deeper in to the VRM's and such on a motherboard is not doing the research myself. After all I had to look at several motherboards then I narrowed it down to a few after doing reading, which by the way is doing research. Once I've done that I then turn to other sources for information on the subject matter to further my knowledge on the product. Sounds like a much better way to make an educated decision rather than... Huh ThIS BoRED IS bIG AnD ExpESivE I BuY It. With That I bid you farewell internet troll have a wonderful day.
The problem is these tech channels get paid to push products. so be careful.
@@Olds79Starfire Buildzoid is polite to companies giving him free stuff, but still tells people the problems he finds with their products.
I would trust his honesty, only problem is that his issues with motherboards tend to be irrelevant to most viewers
The VRM temps on this thing are nuts. I went from x570 aorus elite to b550i aorus pro ax on a 5900X, VRM temps went from 76C max to 48C max with the same bios values. Genuinely impressed by this board.
I've bought too for 200 euros! It is normal that on turn on i got every time a soft brick (black screen), and for letting work the pc i must reset every time?
Thanks
Obviously not okay.
I mean I would be amused if they named it Pro AF
Missed opportunity
All the high end stuff should be AF. hahaha
I think the only recent hardware that has "AF" is the 1600AF
Ive been struggeling to reset the bios for like 7 hours now, I LOVE YOU FOR THAT TIP MAN
As usual for GN and Buildzoid, very detailed analysis and above all, I slept well while watching it
This video is amazing, so much valuable information, thank you so much! You should do more of this kind of videos.
I'd love to hear Buildzoid do his own sponsor spots on these vids. I don't know why I think that would be hilarious but I do.
Shame there is 3x display out. I would have prefered more USB.
There's two front panel connectors for additional USB.
hey, thanks for the suggestion! I love timely videos like these!
The way you dug through the layers of the mobo is epic!!!
You mentioned the thermal sensors working, but looking at the board, i see an ITE SuperIO. It would be nice to see an analysis of which board have which SuperIO. It's something i usually don't find in spec sheets, and even when i write the manufacturer, they tell me they are not sure, so then i take a chance, receive it, and i'm not able to have thermal information off the bat, especially since i use Linux and i mostly compile at maximum speed, sometimes for hours, i need to know if the chipset need extra cooling or not, and i shouldn't have to put hours in reverse-engineering the SuperIO or try to guess a somewhat working driver override. Manufacturers should have more pressure on putting technology we can actually work with. If a board manufacturer would offer me 100% usable and accurate temperature and voltage sensors in Windows and Linux, even if it was 100$ more expensive, it would be the one i'd buy.
I just bought this board to replace my defective Gigabyte Pro AMD B450 ITX (No graphics). When I bought it, I was thinking, "Man, the price really went up from when I bought my last Gig ITX B450." But when I got it, I was really impressed, This thing weighs a ton and feels like an iron anvil. It's really built. The old B450 didn't even have a backing plate.
I just had the same thing happen to this board, no post, no video. Sometimes it will post, and sometimes it will post, but most of the time it won't, and the no post no video problem is all over the web. I don't know what's wrong with these 450 and 550 boards, but there is something lurking in some of them. A lot of reports are with the Ryzen 3600 CPU and the 5600.
Mine has the same issue NO post/video , under warranty service for now. Don’t trust the service gigabyte has to offer or rather no confidence in them. Just burnt my $ . After a shutdown would not post, tried everything 😢. Shame!
To add: 3700x and 3080ti
this board is quite similar to its z490i counterpart especially in terms of looks. good to see this
I just build a 3900X system with this board in an NZXT H1 case and well I was expecting the system to be crazy hot and for my surprise it wasn't, the 3900X going up to 72c under 3dmark firestrike/timespy with PBO set to auto, I'm seeing speeds of 4.625Ghz with firmware F2a, another thing is I was expecting the nvme drive to be crazy hot since the chipset heatsink blocks the air flow to the M.2 heatsink , yup that block is not it it's covering it and not touching it at all, well it still works. idles at 33c on ambient of 25 and doesnt go over 41c
I hope you can do the same with the MSI version and compare that with this Gigabyte. I think they 2 are the best B550 ITX MB
Yeah I'm torn between those two as well
This was super cool, thank you for doing itx!
Only thing is no usb c header. Damnit so close
@@Wesden7 yeah and $100 too high for me. Honestly , itx keep getting more and more expensive. This one is ridiculously expensive.
@@robertohernandez1642 you must be dreaming if you think a board like this could cost $80
In my country, the shops had issues pricing this specific motherboard correcty, so it was available for preorder for $150 initially and even down to $130 for a short time before they noticed it. Needless to say, I will own two of these soon ;)
Just for any one looking at this board after 2 years. My 5950x on PBO hits 200Amps easily and is capped by the motherboard (not this one but a 450i). Some of the newer Malaysian 5000s chips need more amperage than the Taiwan made ones. So, definitely get a board with good VRMs and maybe better cooling.
I think it's worth doing a bit of a long term test for these boards too, many times these just have failure left and right after a few months of usage
the only reason 19W is a bit hot for VRM is because everyone uses the shitty alu block design as "cooler"
what happened to the good old copper fin stacks like on Asus P5?
Expensive and doesn't look good (for the non-tech entheuisiasts)
nah 19W on an ATX board is very easy to cool
@@FinalKingX even tech enthusiasts prefer looks over performance which is a sad reality the rest of us have to deal with.. why do you think all the manufactures threw everything and the kitchen sink at RGB support, lol.
It's not just the badly designed heatsinks, it's the number of folks who use AIOs that don't provide any airflow to the VRMs at all. It should also be noted that the 200A CPU current / 19W VRM heat output numbers would only be reachable under XOC LN2/Dice, which you wouldn't do in a case and wouldn't do with this motherboard.
@@sirmonkey1985 oh, i thought a lot of tech enthusiasts would care about their system's performance more than looks. I guess i was wrong, thanks for pointing out my mistake.
I already ordered this board I hope this video doesn't break my heart
I want to put a Ryzen 5 5600x with 2x 16GB 3200MHz M.2 Gen 3 and Gen 4 and later maybe a 2060< 6GB minimum GPU ... Opinion!?! Good or Bad
Most vendors here have them on pre-order for around 180-190 euro but I found a place that offers them for 130, a whopping 8 euro more than a b450i so no brainer. Can't wait!
Well you are lucky.. In my country all b550 boards are soo ff expensive its insane. Any b550 is from 200 to 250e..... The b450 tomahawk max is 125...... I dont think people gonna spend double the money for b550 here. And board like tomahawk max is gonna be enough for ages for me.
Cool! I just bought this board hours before this video came out and it's good to know it's overkill for my 3600!
You sound so much like Drift0r to me, but that's not a bad thing. Informative and funny, good shit.
the 90Amp parts are just for overall life of the components and durability, electrical components need to be at max 80% utilization anything lower just increases the expected life span
@3:05 For that tidbit if knowledge, I'm giving you a thumbs up.
So, between this, and it's X570 brother (The X570 Pro Wi-Fi), which one should I get for an AMD 3600? The B550 is currently at $180 and the X570 is at $220 (when it's in stock, that is). There are a couple of things to take into account:
1) I am buying into the 500 series MoBos because I plan on buying a 3600 right now, and then a couple of years down the line, switch to a Zen 3 CPU when the 3600 is no longer competent (and the Zen 3 CPUs have gone down in price).
2) I don't find the $40 difference to be a problem, but I don't wanna over-spend on things that I won't use (ie, I don't care for USB connectivity for front panels, having 2 PCIE4 NVME slots), that being said, I DO plan on overclocking the 3600 to at least 4.3mHz (I have an AIO that's more than capable to handle the heat). AND, in the future, when I change CPUs, I also want to be able to OC perhaps an R7 (I don't think that I'll ever go for an R9, unless I can get one for pretty cheap).
3) I don't know if this makes any difference, but I was planning on getting some pretty good RAM, 3666-4000mHz, which I intend to OC to its top limit (whatever it might be xD).
So yeah, it would be easy to say "just go for the X570", but again, I want to get the cheapest MoBo that satisfies my previous needs/wants.
Any help you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated!
P.S.: Also feel free to ask anything if you feel like it's needed in order to make a decision towards any of the two boards.
Really liking this GN / Buildzoid collab lately.
Hi, i dont know much about PC but i am planning on getting this motherboard. I just want to check if it can slot at least 2x 8GB RAM card? Sorry if this is a dumb question.
I may be mistaken, but my understanding was that the maximum current ratings for MOSFETS generally assume a perfect, infinite heatsink that stays at 25C no matter how much heat you pump into it. Basically, a system that can't exist in reality. The only way you could actually get to those limits is with sub-ambient cooling, or living in the arctic where the ambient air is ridiculously cold in the first place.
Do not complain too much over the heatsink/heat pipe destroying the chipset. The key to mini itx cooling are our use of downdraft coolers. You only get vrm temp problems because of your use of tower push/pull and AIO ...
Lots of people watercool ITX builds. Some very tiny cases are made for basically watercooling only.
I always considered the small form factor to be the excellent base for extreme gaming and overclocking, cooling them with turbojet fans for maximum effect and quietness...
Wait did you say the rear backplate is attached and actually dissipates heat? How does this compare to the $200 Asrock motherboard?
“You get a lot of motherboard for $180” *angry mini itx noises*
I really enjoy watching Me Zoids Mobo deep dive coverages, Build goes Soo much into the fine details
More itx b550 reviews please
How does it compare to the rest of the B550 ITX's, watched the First reaction, but is the 230usd Asus better ? with its "10" phase VRM ... Also isn't this VRM basically the same as the ASRock ?
Ayeeeeee I just bought this baby
good choice! I always considered gigabyte to be the best boards. I’ve been building computers for years too. Built maybe 300 computers and still say gigabyte is the best.
IceGiant confirmed a copper version of their Thermosiphon cooler should come out in 2021. Which they said will hopefully have nickel plating near the cpu to allow liquid metal TIM.
Please try to get your hands on one when they're coming out and do a review with LM!
I'm not sure why they didnt put more usb ports on the rear panel for itx b550 boards? Are there just not enough lanes/pcb? Does the wifi 6 take that any lanes?
Is this board better than the Asus ROG Strix B550I for a ryzen 5600x? or for such processor, it won't matter?
Fuck yeah, more BZ videos of B550 ITX plz
I got a good deal on the x570i version of this board, waiting for the desktop 4000-series. I am now genuinely curious what the advantages og x570 on itx is. Power delivery looks similar. The b550i comes with better networking (2.5gb vs 1gb on the x570), newer displayport and hdmi output standards and an extra fan header! I would honestly love another fan header on my x570i but only two are free, since there is a chipset fan.
Why would you go x570i now that this b550i exists?
The only reason to consider the x570i is if you need two pcie4-ssds, the b550i only does one pcie4 and one pcie3. There really is no real point to be made for the X570 chipset for ITX as the limited space doesn't allow the pcie4-connection to the chipset to be really useful. The b550i is better in terms of price, power delivery, memory support (4866 vs 4400) and io capabilities: Better SOC power delivery (90A vs 40A power stages), marginally betterish CPU power delivery (90A vs 70A power stages), better output filtering with the Panasonic Poscaps vs the Apaq caps in the X570i, newer display out standards (DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.1 vs DP 1.2 and HDMI 2.0), additional fan header, faster networking (2.5gbit realtek vs 1gbit intel).
@@suicon9392 thanks, really helps a lot! Retail price for x570i is more than 30% above the b550i in Norway. Cant imagine why anyone would go for x570i now. The b550i looks like a superb obtion for itx. Luckily i got my x570i for the same price that i was able to flip my msi b450 Ac gaming for, so cant really complain about that 😂
@@konradsandvik8893 Especially considering the VRM design and memory support is better on the b550 version.
@@SaturnusDK yeah, really weird that they made those choises. They could have keept same design as on x570i and had more profit or sold it cheaper. Not complaining, though. This b550i is a great deal for the features and power delivery designe.
If this MOBO is overkill for a 3600, is the cheaper $130 ITX MOBO a better buy? I've seen buildzoids first impression video and he did not like that board but didn't go into details, so whats the better buy for an ITX and a 3600??
I purchased the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC model, what I can't figure out is why they put a non-functional internal Thunderbolt header on it. When I contacted support they replied "The THB-C header is for possible future Thunderbolt™3 AIC support. It is not mention online or in the manual because it not functional currently. That would still need to go through Intel® certification"
Great but... Where can I buy a B550i Aorus pro AX in Europe, mostly in Spain? It seems to be out of stock in all stores?
Seems like a Solid Board for the Price Range and Feature Set.
My heart was on a roller-coaster because I got this board specifically to use with an APU (R5 5600G)
thats exactly my plan! how did it go? Not sure if i should get this one or the ASRock B550M-ITX/ac.
@mikeenslin3009 I'm glad you asked. I would steer clear of this board (the gigabyte to be clear). I had to exchange it for a new one because the wifi didn't work and the drivers wouldn't install. The new one they sent me was slightly revised (V1.1 instead of V1.0) and it still has problems, such as: dimm/ram slots are extra crunchy and it'll take you a few times to seat the ram properly. Something is wrong with the cmos/bios it won't clear/reset properly, I've had to do a bios flashback to get it back to default settings. It's no joke, the worst motherboard I've ever bought. I've tried a few different CPUs in it and no-matter-what, it's super finicky about ram overclock/timing tuning, the bog standard 3200 MT/s CL16 XMP profile on my ram isn't fully stable on this board. I would buy anything but this haha. Hope this helps
Does this motherboard support fTPM? For Windows 11
Can you connect from Type-c of this motherboard to 3 monitors through MST hub in addition to HDMI x1 and DisplayPort x2?
or is this Type C of this motherboard is the one without Alternative mode, which has no video output?
how does this handles APU? the previous B450I has a bit of problem when handling APU due to weaker(?) VRM SOC if I recall
im planning to replace the thermal pads of my motherboard heatsink. What is the size in mm of its thermal pads?
For just a gaming pc with no want for any pcie expansion besides a gpu is this a better board for memory overclocking / i have always had empty dimm slots shouldn't i go for this kind of board
It is much better for memory overclocking, yes.
mITX is generally more expensive for what you get due to typically having to use 8 layer PCBs. If you don't need a compact build you should generally go full size ATX. That being said, this is going to be my next motherboard.
I'd be willing to sacrifice a lot of features for actually budget ITX am4 options. But it seems like my only option is to drop at the very least £130 on a motherboard with less features than an £80 mATX one. I get that more engineering goes into cramming stuff into such a small space, but surely after doing it enough times some of that difficulty diminishes through experience and practices learned from past generations.
Bah, my hand is forced anyway, I'll spend the vanity money, I want my tiny PC.
Why can handle the Gigabyte B550I 3800+ @ CL14 with suitable RAM?
With boards like MSI MPG B550I, ASUS Strix B550-I it's possible.
Do I pick this up for $220 or the msi b450i for $160
So is A520 supposed to handle 6 core and lower, b550 8-16 core with caveats if you don’t spend $300, x570 somehow for everything but apus? I feel like 300 and 400 chipsets set us up for expectations that are different with 500 series.
They do have the pins for front USB ports though so why not leave spaces at the rear IO shield for wiring to have more rear USB ports?
They could have put more USB next to the bottom blue ones, but the problem is the front USB 3.2 header. From what I read, they have to trade off 3.0 if they are going to include 3.2. USB C.
How does this compare to the slightly more expensive Asus Strix B550-I?
The only reliable recovery mini-itx mobo that I've tested is in the ASUS Rog Strix line, but of course, a way more expensive.
what i got from this video:
the vrm on this board is quite good.
what i am thinking about:
what is vrm?
I has my 4750G on an ASrock B450 for a week now and the VRM makes a noise at idle. I am replacing it with this B550, seems it is a good move.
Can you / buildzoid test the Asus Strix B550-i board? I know it has rather weak VRM's, but how bad it is really?
You guys rock :)
Is GamerNexus planning on reviewing the Phanteks P600S?
This seemed to be the perfect B550 ITX board ... and then I noticed it's the only one missing a type-c header :(
When you see the owl (the bottom cpu latch) at 00:17 you cant unsee it.
I’ve always loved gigabytes bios’. They have always had the best.
What RAM you recommend I have this mobo ? then I have ryzen 7 3700x .
Where did you buy it?
Hey, I`m going to build a 900 amp VRM with 10 power stages using the local river for a factory sized watercooler
exactly! as soon as I get my nuclear reactor online, I'm powering up a bank of these, 10k amps..
where to buy???
you should of mentioned how fast the nvme lane is on the 4.0 slot. i'm trying to decide which nvme to buy
By far the best price/performance ITX board currently. Very disappointed about MSI, they had such a good track record
Nice, exaclty the board im interested in
Does this board support APUs? Thanks
That's Buildzoid and GN, don't mind if I link to this video of yours from my review of this board. It's certainly a lovely product from Aorus.
haha...ado sini jugak bohh..
Good review, love the detailed analysis.... but it seriously looks like you were forced to promote GN merch towards the end of the video :)
Isn't it a problem that MBs come without USB 2.0 today? at least 2 ports, I know mouses and keyboards gamers that have problems with USB 3.0 +
In theory it should just run ar 2.0, because the USB-controller should recognize this.
I remember mice and keyboards having trouble with USB 3 10 years ago, but these days? Is it really an issue anymore? Personally, I would prefer if everyone plain stopped implementing ancient USB 2 tech. We don't see USB 1 anymore, for good reason, time for USB 2 to go as well, if anything, it is hindering progress.
Actually, AsRock did make mini-ITX motherboards for X99 and X299.
My problem is there is no grey area between the low end asrock board and this board. I'm building a 3600 system and the power delivery on this is overkill as stated, but the featureset on the cheap board is practically non existent.
Fuck , i had no idea 2:35. So do i put the + and - on the Cmos and every time i press reset button it actually resets Cmos?
Wow that's a great idea, wire reset of your case to clearcmos, why have i never thought of this????????????
@@turby0632 Yea that fucking sucks, i had the same on a phenteks case, sold it lol, from now on i need a case that has the reset button xD