@Prince Cooper pls paste the link of his previous video in which he monitors KERNEL WRITES to SSD or atleast tell the TITLE OF the video so i know which pne to watch!!!!🙄
@@harjotgill6162 Well. The MacPro is a desktop computer and battery is not an issue. The SSD was my concern at the beginning, but the test has not shown any impairment so far. I think Apple builds very high quality SSDs into the Macs, which I would expect for the price. My 2012 MacBook Pro is also still working fine, although it seems a little slower in the meantime. The battery has, of course, degraded somewhat over the 9 years, but it still serves its purpose for a short time. Most of the time, I run the MacBook on the power supply.
Thanks mate, definitely took a weight of my chest. Was looking to get a M1 Pro but was concerned when I heard that SSD fail. By far the most comprehensive and clear video on the topic.
Most likely other hardware dies long before the SSD. My 128GB SSD on my Windows PC from 2011 still working, and modern SSDs are way more durable and also larger..
Modern SSD's are either QLC or TLC and hence less durable The SSD u have from 2011 probably has SLC and it will last for long time to come The same can't be said for new one's
Great informative video! Allow me to add a correction on your assessment of 2% storage availability. In this scenario, this will lead to a phenomenon called write amplification, where the SSD erases and rewrites the stored data across all the cells to accomplish its wear leveling objectives. This as you can see amplifies writes as it has to rewrite an existing data to a different cell, erase the previous one and write the new data on that previous location and so on. No modern SSDs will ever write and rewrite a new data on the same location as it would kill the SSD quicker
My 600 dollar Samsung m.2 NVME drive, in my PC, died in just 3 years of desktop use, failing into read only mode, but not before corrupting entire folders of data. Make sure you have efficient backup no matter what you use.
Samsung make cheap quality products with best cutting edge features ... called planned obsolescence 🤑 that is why our samsung phones will gets slowed after 1 year & eventually fails just after warranty period ends... so that customers buy more devices frequently & regularly... planned obsolescence is generally practiced by most of the companies but samsung executed it the best 👌 👍
@@TheFourthWinchester samsung will provide with best quality hardware to Apple, because of their signed contract/Agreement .... otherwise Apple will reject the samsung SSD'S if they find out to be made out of low quality material... period 🤑.
The SSD on a Macbook Pro 2016 I was using broke in late 2021. Everything else about it works. I used an external ssd for booting+main system drive for a few months until I got tired of having to rely on an external drive. I think the only thing your analysis misses is background processes that indiscriminately writes to the ssd without user control. The Mac virtual memory system is becoming very advanced, with the M1 using unified memory and virtual memory. The user cannot control how many bytes the system will write - even if you only browse the web, etc you can't control whether the os will write/commit to the ssd when you are only lightly using the system.
I heard that with the current apple silicone, you cannot boot from an external ssd with a dead internal soldered ssd. So if your internal ssd dies, you can't use the laptop anymore.
@@niaz.shovon ITS THE 2017 MACBOOK PRO WITH TOUCHBAR THE SSD DRIVE STILL WORKS BUT IS FAILING! USE IT AS STORAGE ONLY BUT STILL SHOWS UP AS A STORAGE DRIVE!
THIS IS ONE REASON WHY I DON'T OWN AN MAC! SOLDERING SSDs, MEMORY IS NOT RIGHT! I'M AN 36yr TECH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UPGRADE. ITS CRAZY THAT MAC USERS DON'T GET ENRAGE OVER THIS.
This was an amazing breakdown bro! You explained it so well. Feel better now, but still saving everything to my external. Only using about 30 percent of my internal SSD
I've owned several MacBooks over the years, with old mechanical hard drives and SSDs, and I can assure that something else will break or malfunction on your MacBook before the hard drive will.
Yeah an when another part goes wrong ? You have to cough up hundreds for apple to fix it. Unlike other machines. Apple jail, restricts everthing. An you're ssd will slow down over time. Can't change reality.
To all those who write here that the SSD from their MacBook from forever ago is still running. The new MacBooks use swap memory much more than the old ones from back then. Especially if you use programs that do not have a native version for the M1 processors, the SSD is particularly stressed by swap.
Not entirely true, that issue was blown out of proportion quite a bit last year and is no longer something to worry about. All Macs use swap, regardless of if they're Apple silicon or not. However, even if you're slamming swap 24/7, the results in this video show that your SSD will still almost certainly last 10+ years.
@@CreatedTech my Macbook Air 2017 swaps memory like crazy with my multi-tasking apps, but it still works very well and is still as snappy as day 1 even after 4 years of daily use.
SWAP works like "virtual memory" on Windows. I think people over-blow how much data is actually written to it than actually read from it. Notice NOT a single person cares about how much is used on Windows machines. lol it's far less efficient as a SWAP on a linux or bsd system. Better yet unix.
@@gabobli Yep, even older Intel Macs use swap pretty much the same amount. I'd argue they use more, because modern apps are more RAM hungry and the RAM in those older Macs is pretty dated. It's just a normal feature of computer operating systems, including Windows.
@@christopherfortney2544 By no means. Swapping in most OSes is using outdated algorithms, and for "security reasons" the true killer is BROWSER CACHE which in newest versions can't be disabled OR moved to Ramdisk.
According to DriveDX, the SSD in my Mac Mini M1 (16 Gb RAM) that I've been using pretty much everyday for the past year is still at 100%. But I should add I only use it to host the OS, applications and a few other resources, all my data is on external SSD drives.
While there is little reason to worry about the drive failing, it is still worth purchasing as much SSD capacity as you can afford. Having about 30 - 40% of your drive free will maximize the read/write performance.
I lost my WD 256gb ssd within only 2 years, was running 24/24 hours on my Dell laptop! But on my 2013 MacBook its still working till today lol! Taking cloud backup is the best thing guys
I’ve been trying to watch less tech news. But this is genuinely helpful. I’ve been considering whether to switch my workflow to working on internal SSD or keep using externals. Obviously price is an issue, but it is good to know that even copying a couple hundred gigs at a time a couple times a week won’t likely burn through a 2 TB internal SSD
Seems like the battery would go first. And honestly with all the computers I buy and sell, the computer would realistically go first because I spend too much money on this stuff.
@@richard6812 most I spend too much money. A lot of my tech works just fine but watching so much news I get excited about things I don’t really need and then feel bad about what I have
Apple should, but probably won’t, offer an exchange program for dead SSDs. Get a “remanufactured” exchange program. They would get so much credit for reducing electronic waste.
Thank you so much for this video. So well edited and great info. Lots of stuff I didn't know but learned and the video is just beautifully made. Such a good quality video!
If the ssd fails in your MacBook Pro, you can install MacOS in an external hard drive or external solid state drive. As this operating system let you boot from an external source in which it will give access to the MacBook Pro and you won't have to throw it away or spend a lot of money getting it repaired. I would recommend getting a nvme drive with a usb c enclosure. This is because you will benefit from the fast read and write speeds.
Apple should bring back with the next model a M.2 ssd slot. There is room to do that. I think is stupid to integrate it in the logicboard. That is a part that need to be replaced once in a while.
M1 Macbooks look great but reality is ssd's can and do fail and it has happened to me in older ones with removable drives. Wouldn't mind if Apple has a proprietary removable drive at least one could replace a failed drive instead of the entire logic board.
this made me happy I opted for the 1TB for my MacBook Air M1. I know I'm gonna be able to get many years out of it. Considering I got 7 years out of my 2009 MacBook.
Wow, I was just doing research on this yesterday!. As I was debating on picking up an external 4TB Sandisk Extreme or the MacBook Pro 4TB upgrade!. Very good.
I have the Sandisk extreme 4TB + MacBook Pro 1TB. I originally opted for the 4TB MacBook Pro, but backed down. The Sandisk is the workhorse 100% of the time.
@@Hovscorpion12 Yeah, very tempting for sure!. Usable for outside of the laptop (Desktop), plus it keeps the wear out of the laptop… I might go that route. Having to carry it though… Ahh.
This is the main issue keeping me away from modern Mac’s. 2020 loaded intel MacBook Pro and the ssd began throwing corruption errors until finally becoming unusable. All that on top of exorbitant storage prices for slower speeds and the same capacities. Even with the nicer chips they just don’t make sense anymore
The primary problem isn't the SSD failing due to TBW exceedance. If the SSD is damaged due to a short or overvoltage, then your whole computer is bricked.
Wow, Apple actually solders the drive in place?! What possible reason can they give for that, other than that "it screws the consumer"?! What a scumbag move.
In last few years i have purchased like 10-15 ssd s to my computers. 4 of them altready died... I'm really glad they weren't hard soldered to the board in either case...
@@nme6725Disks are not just another "consumable", they store valuable data. And im still using one my notebook which is 18years old and works perfectly fine after upgrading disk to ssd... Half of those sdd died after 5 years and ahalf of them died fast and need to be replaced in warranty (which is really easy when you have m2 disk and not just "special" chips soldered on motherboard).
My 2017 MBP 13" 128GB has a dead SSD unfortunately - and considering its age, that's pretty alarming. I did however take it to an Apple Service Centre who have claimed that they will replace it if possible (for a hefty price ofcourse). Upon deeper research, it seems that a particular series of MBPs from 2017 had been recalled for faulty SSDs - anyone know anything about this?
Tbh that it was a pretty disastrous period of Mac-computing presented by Apple. Not only the key-switches, also the top-case, and SSD's have not the best performance numbers in consumer enjoyment time I'd say.
Thanks a lot for your video. I avoid using my M1 to download videos or big data into the hard drive "I mean SSD". I work from the external drive or USB memory instead. you're right while bigger the SSD would have a bigger TBW capacity. By the way, do you think it is the same degradation process in the Ipads with the M1 chip?
I've had more HDDs die than SSDs... in fact, I haven't had an SSD die yet (unless you somehow count SD cards... I had one snap once). HDDs and CDs and DVDs and other storage types also suffer if written to too many times.
MacBook Air 2011 128GB, SSD ok after using everyday. Still have thousand of unused wear leveling blocks. Memory management is so great that endurance is so much enlarged, around 15-20 years at least for most users. I think you would experience limitations on CPU. or RAM before the SSD dies. Careful with bugs! If some app or OS version is wrongly implemented, it may write and erase the memory so much times that may kill it before you think. For me, SSD lifespan is not a problem at least on Mac computers.
Please do aware that Apple is using multiple NAND chip to achieve SSD's total capacity; 256GB capacity use 2x128GB NAND chip while 1TB capacity use 8x128GB NAND chip. So, each 128GB NAND chip have around 75TBW each. Failure to 1 NAND chip will make Macbook unusable.
TLDW: With a MacBook with 256GB of storage, writing 50GB of data per day, the SSD will last 8.2 years 500GB: 16years 1TB: 32 years 2TB: 64 years Almost no one writes 50GB per day, every single day, so the time to failure can be doubled.
how is it now? still work? what is TBW right now? I just bought an second hand macbook air m1 which last owner used for a year. a problem is it already reach 213 TB
tbw is not the issue. every ssd will die because of age in 3 years ur SSD will run slower than when it was new. Dont believe me? Benchmark ur SSD from new to 5 years
Good vid but disagree on the point about buying more internal ssd, meaning giving Apple more money. Would suggest to use an external hard drive for larger files or programs
Did i miss it? What type of NANDs are installed in the macbooks e. g. MBA M1 SLC, MLC, TLC or QLC? I think thats the most important question. And of do the NAND chips fail first or the controller chips?
I was genuinely concerned that things like cache writes and spotlight would burn out my SSD. Now I know that's unlikely. At the tested rating I could fill and erase my Crucial SSD every single day for over a decade before having to worry.
Hi, you didn't leave the link or put it in the top right corner, to the video that shows how much data has been written to the SSD ? Edit: not to worry, I found it under utilities>activity monitor>disk. My 40 day old M1 Pro 16" has only written 63 GB....and I use it every day. Guess I don't need to worry about it dying. Edit: Okay seems like this number resets every time the MBP is rebooted
Is this really true? I just got a £440 quote from a data recovery company to get the data off my SSD from a 2015 MacBook Pro. I had spilled a drink on the laptop, but apparently that didn’t reach the SSD, and yet the company said it is nearing the end of it’s life & has firmware issues and some media degradation. I don’t know if it could be because I sometimes shut my laptop down quickly (holding the power button down for 6 seconds). The data recovery place said SSDs don’t like being shut down suddenly. I only did that if it froze though, and of course when I spilled the drink. Just trying to understand why this video is saying SSDs can go on for ages and ages, and yet mine is failing??
@@laptopfan1 Well thanks for your sympathy! The company has excellent Google reviews, plus the Apple store said data recovery can cost around that, so it seems legit to me. But I’m doing my research before consenting to the work being done.
I've been using my MacBook Pro every day for 8-10 hours for half a year now. DriveDx shows me that 6 tb data were written. I have the base model with 512 gb memory. If you do the math, the SSD will last me 25 years which isn't too bad :D
Because of NAND soldered SSDs I will certainly buy no new laptops anymore. Only CHEAP devices for me now because I see no reason to throw away a 1000 USD device away just because a 20 USD component just died in it. That brings the value of the device down A LOT even if the other components are beyond amazing.
Somehow some way, my 1 year old M1 MacBook Pro has 43TB TBW currently. That’s about 112GB a day on average… most likely because of the way it uses swap memory because of its limited RAM capacity of 8GB.
Yep. I love how a lot of these videos say something along the lines of "even with 50GB per day which is a lot, your SSD will last years" while I look at others who are reporting 100+ GB per day. That's what mine was doing before I returned it.
@@spareroomtech Yes. For coding, VMs, Servers, SDK, software buildings. But who is gonna use a laptop for 10 years? 3-4 years I will replace it with another one. The most thing i don't like Apple is that they soilder chips on logic boards and you hardly be able to upgrade it. I will contact some engineers to upgrade my M1 from 8GB to 16GB. But 16G isn't a lot. My i9 9900K hackintosh has 64GB of RAM, which almost can do everything.
With the SSD soldered in, you should be worried about it failing. Because when it fails for one of two reasons, Apple charges premium for the repair. The two reasons for failing are wear and sudden death. Latter caused by a component failing and causing a short. When this happens the data is possibly gone.
Ssd only die fast for people who completely fill all their free space. Sadly with the pitiful amount of storage apple chooses for these, that encompasses many many users.
wow, thank you. Your video makes me calmer now. it's been a few days i thought about the age of the ssd and tried to sell my macbook pro m1 13 base model LOL
Excellent video! All of my data is on external drives. I had a 15' inch i7 touchbar before and it lasted me 5 years, I switched to M1 pro now. Average professional with resource intensive needs will have changed their system every 5 years at the latest - which is a way shorter term than lifespan of most SSDs.
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Sir pls share the method you told at 11:13 about How much data our/your ssd has written? @Created Tech
@Prince Cooper ok but how?
@Prince Cooper pls paste the link of his previous video in which he monitors KERNEL WRITES to SSD or atleast tell the TITLE OF the video so i know which pne to watch!!!!🙄
The SSD in my MacPro (late 2013) is still in use today and has been doing the job reliably ever since, with 8 hours per day.
Will the SSD slow down before it dies?
2012 SSD in MBP (2012) still working fine
@@PixDev_01 I don't know, Until now, it doesn't.
@@MF_OXF Yes, my MacBook works fine til now, too.
@@harjotgill6162 Well. The MacPro is a desktop computer and battery is not an issue. The SSD was my concern at the beginning, but the test has not shown any impairment so far. I think Apple builds very high quality SSDs into the Macs, which I would expect for the price.
My 2012 MacBook Pro is also still working fine, although it seems a little slower in the meantime. The battery has, of course, degraded somewhat over the 9 years, but it still serves its purpose for a short time. Most of the time, I run the MacBook on the power supply.
Thanks mate, definitely took a weight of my chest. Was looking to get a M1 Pro but was concerned when I heard that SSD fail. By far the most comprehensive and clear video on the topic.
Most likely other hardware dies long before the SSD. My 128GB SSD on my Windows PC from 2011 still working, and modern SSDs are way more durable and also larger..
Exactly.
Some manufacturers even underrate the capacity of their drives so that even if you fill it, there is still some capacity left.
The computer can fail or the ssd can also suddenly die and repair won’t be cheap on soldered ssd
Modern ssd`s are less durable, but cheaper. QLC ssds are the cheapest and least durable for example
Modern SSD's are either QLC or TLC and hence less durable
The SSD u have from 2011 probably has SLC and it will last for long time to come
The same can't be said for new one's
Great informative video! Allow me to add a correction on your assessment of 2% storage availability.
In this scenario, this will lead to a phenomenon called write amplification, where the SSD erases and rewrites the stored data across all the cells to accomplish its wear leveling objectives.
This as you can see amplifies writes as it has to rewrite an existing data to a different cell, erase the previous one and write the new data on that previous location and so on. No modern SSDs will ever write and rewrite a new data on the same location as it would kill the SSD quicker
My 600 dollar Samsung m.2 NVME drive, in my PC, died in just 3 years of desktop use, failing into read only mode, but not before corrupting entire folders of data. Make sure you have efficient backup no matter what you use.
Samsung make cheap quality products with best cutting edge features ... called planned obsolescence 🤑 that is why our samsung phones will gets slowed after 1 year & eventually fails just after warranty period ends... so that customers buy more devices frequently & regularly... planned obsolescence is generally practiced by most of the companies but samsung executed it the best 👌 👍
@@TheFourthWinchester samsung will provide with best quality hardware to Apple, because of their signed contract/Agreement .... otherwise Apple will reject the samsung SSD'S if they find out to be made out of low quality material... period 🤑.
what types of controller SLC MLC TLC QLC NVMe SSD?
does your samsung SSD has DRAM cache?
The SSD on a Macbook Pro 2016 I was using broke in late 2021. Everything else about it works. I used an external ssd for booting+main system drive for a few months until I got tired of having to rely on an external drive. I think the only thing your analysis misses is background processes that indiscriminately writes to the ssd without user control. The Mac virtual memory system is becoming very advanced, with the M1 using unified memory and virtual memory. The user cannot control how many bytes the system will write - even if you only browse the web, etc you can't control whether the os will write/commit to the ssd when you are only lightly using the system.
I DID THE EXACT SAME THING!!!! LOVE IT THAT YOU CAN BOOT OS OFF EXTERNAL SSD WORKS GREAT!!!!
I heard that with the current apple silicone, you cannot boot from an external ssd with a dead internal soldered ssd. So if your internal ssd dies, you can't use the laptop anymore.
@@niaz.shovon im using it now booting off ssd eternal and it working great going on two years now
@@brettlewis5157 is that a M1? Is the internal built-in ssd dead?
@@niaz.shovon ITS THE 2017 MACBOOK PRO WITH TOUCHBAR THE SSD DRIVE STILL WORKS BUT IS FAILING! USE IT AS STORAGE ONLY BUT STILL SHOWS UP AS A STORAGE DRIVE!
My 2012 mid macbook after the ssd upgrade works LIKE SUPER FAST it can even handle games like Asphalt 9,csgo etc....Pretty happy with the decision ;)
I have one and it's super slow compared to my i7 12700
THIS IS ONE REASON WHY I DON'T OWN AN MAC! SOLDERING SSDs, MEMORY IS NOT RIGHT! I'M AN 36yr TECH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO UPGRADE. ITS CRAZY THAT MAC USERS DON'T GET ENRAGE OVER THIS.
I‘m quite new to MacBooks, but I own a Windows laptop from 2016 with a built in SSD and it works as good as day one.
Thank you man . I've been searching for almost 2 years when the m1 macbook launched.
This was an amazing breakdown bro! You explained it so well. Feel better now, but still saving everything to my external. Only using about 30 percent of my internal SSD
I've owned several MacBooks over the years, with old mechanical hard drives and SSDs, and I can assure that something else will break or malfunction on your MacBook before the hard drive will.
Yeah an when another part goes wrong ? You have to cough up hundreds for apple to fix it. Unlike other machines. Apple jail, restricts everthing. An you're ssd will slow down over time. Can't change reality.
To all those who write here that the SSD from their MacBook from forever ago is still running. The new MacBooks use swap memory much more than the old ones from back then. Especially if you use programs that do not have a native version for the M1 processors, the SSD is particularly stressed by swap.
Not entirely true, that issue was blown out of proportion quite a bit last year and is no longer something to worry about. All Macs use swap, regardless of if they're Apple silicon or not. However, even if you're slamming swap 24/7, the results in this video show that your SSD will still almost certainly last 10+ years.
@@CreatedTech my Macbook Air 2017 swaps memory like crazy with my multi-tasking apps, but it still works very well and is still as snappy as day 1 even after 4 years of daily use.
SWAP works like "virtual memory" on Windows. I think people over-blow how much data is actually written to it than actually read from it. Notice NOT a single person cares about how much is used on Windows machines. lol it's far less efficient as a SWAP on a linux or bsd system. Better yet unix.
@@gabobli Yep, even older Intel Macs use swap pretty much the same amount. I'd argue they use more, because modern apps are more RAM hungry and the RAM in those older Macs is pretty dated. It's just a normal feature of computer operating systems, including Windows.
@@christopherfortney2544 By no means. Swapping in most OSes is using outdated algorithms, and for "security reasons" the true killer is BROWSER CACHE which in newest versions can't be disabled OR moved to Ramdisk.
The bigger the storage, the longer your SSD will last. Good to know
According to DriveDX, the SSD in my Mac Mini M1 (16 Gb RAM) that I've been using pretty much everyday for the past year is still at 100%. But I should add I only use it to host the OS, applications and a few other resources, all my data is on external SSD drives.
Hi! Can I ask you something regarding this topic please?!
While there is little reason to worry about the drive failing, it is still worth purchasing as much SSD capacity as you can afford. Having about 30 - 40% of your drive free will maximize the read/write performance.
Bigger drives have higher TBW rating as well.
too bad apple ssd is overpriced by 400%
I'd say more memory is better than storage size.
Thanks for the video, there is a lot of fear mongering going on.
This video is so informative I can't handle it. Please don't ever stop making these super helpful content!
Ya you love that big content ;)
@@Jennifer-cg5ih massive ;)
I lost my WD 256gb ssd within only 2 years, was running 24/24 hours on my Dell laptop! But on my 2013 MacBook its still working till today lol! Taking cloud backup is the best thing guys
I’ve been trying to watch less tech news. But this is genuinely helpful. I’ve been considering whether to switch my workflow to working on internal SSD or keep using externals. Obviously price is an issue, but it is good to know that even copying a couple hundred gigs at a time a couple times a week won’t likely burn through a 2 TB internal SSD
Seems like the battery would go first. And honestly with all the computers I buy and sell, the computer would realistically go first because I spend too much money on this stuff.
Why are you watching lees tech news? I’m curious so thank you if you respond
@@richard6812 most I spend too much money. A lot of my tech works just fine but watching so much news I get excited about things I don’t really need and then feel bad about what I have
Apple should, but probably won’t, offer an exchange program for dead SSDs. Get a “remanufactured” exchange program. They would get so much credit for reducing electronic waste.
Amazing information, I will stick with the 512GB I've ordered thank you!
I’m so glad I can keep my M1 air for many years.
Thank you so much for this video. So well edited and great info. Lots of stuff I didn't know but learned and the video is just beautifully made. Such a good quality video!
If the ssd fails in your MacBook Pro, you can install MacOS in an external hard drive or external solid state drive. As this operating system let you boot from an external source in which it will give access to the MacBook Pro and you won't have to throw it away or spend a lot of money getting it repaired. I would recommend getting a nvme drive with a usb c enclosure. This is because you will benefit from the fast read and write speeds.
Then glue it on top and bam we good
@@Jennifer-cg5ih wait till you're battery says >
@@Jennifer-cg5ih yes Jennifer exactly I was thinking 🤣🤣 jk no on the side I don’t want the MacBook looking like poop o
all os do the same win or Linux
Lol….. who said Apple is going to allow that on their M1 laptops!?
They last quite a while. My Macbook Air from 2011 still functions perfectly today.
Saying "Make sure i watch til the end", is the best way to make sure i won't
Chances are the modules are from samsung since they make most of the modules for apple in general.
Apple should bring back with the next model a M.2 ssd slot. There is room to do that. I think is stupid to integrate it in the logicboard. That is a part that need to be replaced once in a while.
Not only your video is informative but also helps me sleep better with that slow narration lol
With how expensive the upgrades in storage are, I would hope they would be using some of the highest quality storage, with high TBWs
yes they do. Do they overcharge them SSDs? Probably.
M1 Macbooks look great but reality is ssd's can and do fail and it has happened to me in older ones with removable drives. Wouldn't mind if Apple has a proprietary removable drive at least one could replace a failed drive instead of the entire logic board.
this made me happy I opted for the 1TB for my MacBook Air M1. I know I'm gonna be able to get many years out of it. Considering I got 7 years out of my 2009 MacBook.
I really like this type of informative videos, nice work!!
Very informative video
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Wow, I was just doing research on this yesterday!. As I was debating on picking up an external 4TB Sandisk Extreme or the MacBook Pro 4TB upgrade!. Very good.
I have the Sandisk extreme 4TB + MacBook Pro 1TB. I originally opted for the 4TB MacBook Pro, but backed down. The Sandisk is the workhorse 100% of the time.
@@Hovscorpion12 Yeah, very tempting for sure!. Usable for outside of the laptop (Desktop), plus it keeps the wear out of the laptop… I might go that route. Having to carry it though… Ahh.
@@OmarDaily yeah it’s a bih to carry, but since their soo small, I just keep in a small compartment in by bag or in my back pocket.
This is the main issue keeping me away from modern Mac’s. 2020 loaded intel MacBook Pro and the ssd began throwing corruption errors until finally becoming unusable. All that on top of exorbitant storage prices for slower speeds and the same capacities. Even with the nicer chips they just don’t make sense anymore
The primary problem isn't the SSD failing due to TBW exceedance. If the SSD is damaged due to a short or overvoltage, then your whole computer is bricked.
Wow, Apple actually solders the drive in place?! What possible reason can they give for that, other than that "it screws the consumer"?! What a scumbag move.
They don’t want people buying entry level and then buying a 2tb after market
@@KentReynolds In other words, to screw the consumer.
In last few years i have purchased like 10-15 ssd s to my computers. 4 of them altready died... I'm really glad they weren't hard soldered to the board in either case...
Wow, never had any of those issue on all my Mac’s. If I get a new one it’s cause it’s been least 5 yrs or more and just want a new one
@@nme6725Disks are not just another "consumable", they store valuable data. And im still using one my notebook which is 18years old and works perfectly fine after upgrading disk to ssd... Half of those sdd died after 5 years and ahalf of them died fast and need to be replaced in warranty (which is really easy when you have m2 disk and not just "special" chips soldered on motherboard).
My 2017 MBP 13" 128GB has a dead SSD unfortunately - and considering its age, that's pretty alarming. I did however take it to an Apple Service Centre who have claimed that they will replace it if possible (for a hefty price ofcourse). Upon deeper research, it seems that a particular series of MBPs from 2017 had been recalled for faulty SSDs - anyone know anything about this?
Tbh that it was a pretty disastrous period of Mac-computing presented by Apple. Not only the key-switches, also the top-case, and SSD's have not the best performance numbers in consumer enjoyment time I'd say.
Yes, there was a free repair program for units affected.
@@MehOccor he said he had to pay a hefty price
@@ko-Daegu And then he asked if anyone knows anything about recall program for faulty SSDs. Mind your own business.
@@MehOccor you are dumb or trolling which one ?
he said he paid and you gonna say you will get it for free are ya an idiot
great video... very infomative and easy to understand
This was really informative, thank you for this!!
Yeah, Really Informative.
Problem is burning Texas Instrument DC/DC chip and after a NAND memory.This can happen even the next day after the warranty expires.
Thanks a lot for your video. I avoid using my M1 to download videos or big data into the hard drive "I mean SSD". I work from the external drive or USB memory instead. you're right while bigger the SSD would have a bigger TBW capacity. By the way, do you think it is the same degradation process in the Ipads with the M1 chip?
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New sub here. Excellent content and very thorough and understandable. Thanks
Thanks for the great info. Was confused with all the swap used data written news. Most importantly is to stop worrying so much and just use it.
I've had more HDDs die than SSDs... in fact, I haven't had an SSD die yet (unless you somehow count SD cards... I had one snap once).
HDDs and CDs and DVDs and other storage types also suffer if written to too many times.
Great video pal 🔥🔥🔥
Awesome content and cover almost each point what a viewer can imaging to ask u which watching this video.
MacBook Air 2011 128GB, SSD ok after using everyday. Still have thousand of unused wear leveling blocks. Memory management is so great that endurance is so much enlarged, around 15-20 years at least for most users. I think you would experience limitations on CPU. or RAM before the SSD dies. Careful with bugs! If some app or OS version is wrongly implemented, it may write and erase the memory so much times that may kill it before you think. For me, SSD lifespan is not a problem at least on Mac computers.
it is running Steve Job's Mac OS, not Tim Cook's..
This info is so valuable. Thanks.. I give you my like and subs.
Please do aware that Apple is using multiple NAND chip to achieve SSD's total capacity; 256GB capacity use 2x128GB NAND chip while 1TB capacity use 8x128GB NAND chip. So, each 128GB NAND chip have around 75TBW each. Failure to 1 NAND chip will make Macbook unusable.
Where is the link that you said you would put below for us to check our ssd. You have not posted anywhere. Please do so, thanks.
TLDW:
With a MacBook with 256GB of storage, writing 50GB of data per day, the SSD will last 8.2 years
500GB: 16years
1TB: 32 years
2TB: 64 years
Almost no one writes 50GB per day, every single day, so the time to failure can be doubled.
Really good video!
My TBW for MacBook Air M1 256GB model is 450TB. It's 1 year and 3 months old
how is it now? still work? what is TBW right now? I just bought an second hand macbook air m1 which last owner used for a year. a problem is it already reach 213 TB
@@techboung Shouldn’t be worried much, the guy did 450TB no issues 😂
tbw is not the issue. every ssd will die because of age in 3 years ur SSD will run slower than when it was new. Dont believe me? Benchmark ur SSD from new to 5 years
Good vid but disagree on the point about buying more internal ssd, meaning giving Apple more money. Would suggest to use an external hard drive for larger files or programs
This was very useful. Thank you!
Useful video thanks.
Did i miss it? What type of NANDs are installed in the macbooks e. g. MBA M1 SLC, MLC, TLC or QLC? I think thats the most important question. And of do the NAND chips fail first or the controller chips?
After 3 months mine arriving today yayyyyyyyyy
Very helpful. Thanks
Great video that really puts things into perspective.
I was genuinely concerned that things like cache writes and spotlight would burn out my SSD. Now I know that's unlikely. At the tested rating I could fill and erase my Crucial SSD every single day for over a decade before having to worry.
Very informative video. Thanks 👍
Great video! Thanks!
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Hi, you didn't leave the link or put it in the top right corner, to the video that shows how much data has been written to the SSD ? Edit: not to worry, I found it under utilities>activity monitor>disk. My 40 day old M1 Pro 16" has only written 63 GB....and I use it every day. Guess I don't need to worry about it dying. Edit: Okay seems like this number resets every time the MBP is rebooted
use smarctl function to find out. My m1 air accrued 120tbw in 12 months due to memory leak issues on MacOS.
@@zhandoszhanserikov5920that would alredy take almost half of my 320tbw 1tb ssd.
Record 8k 60fps at Apple Pro Res and you will hit that in a month
Is this really true? I just got a £440 quote from a data recovery company to get the data off my SSD from a 2015 MacBook Pro. I had spilled a drink on the laptop, but apparently that didn’t reach the SSD, and yet the company said it is nearing the end of it’s life & has firmware issues and some media degradation. I don’t know if it could be because I sometimes shut my laptop down quickly (holding the power button down for 6 seconds). The data recovery place said SSDs don’t like being shut down suddenly. I only did that if it froze though, and of course when I spilled the drink. Just trying to understand why this video is saying SSDs can go on for ages and ages, and yet mine is failing??
lol sounds like u getting ripped off
@@laptopfan1 Well thanks for your sympathy! The company has excellent Google reviews, plus the Apple store said data recovery can cost around that, so it seems legit to me. But I’m doing my research before consenting to the work being done.
Correction: Not only SDD dies but sinc it is soldered the WOHLE DEVICE DIES 🙃
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8/16Gb with frequent RAM swap will kill the SSD much much faster.
This can be the best video you ever made.
the first MacBook with soldered storage (12 inch, early 2015) had an ssd that was prone to failure
I've been using my MacBook Pro every day for 8-10 hours for half a year now. DriveDx shows me that 6 tb data were written. I have the base model with 512 gb memory. If you do the math, the SSD will last me 25 years which isn't too bad :D
The SSD in my 2005 Mac is still going strong.
A few hours of running a disk benchmark tool like "Blackmagic Disk Speed Test" writes tens of Terabytes. Be careful. 😳😳
Absolutely love this!
Yes, Absolutely love this.
Because of NAND soldered SSDs I will certainly buy no new laptops anymore. Only CHEAP devices for me now because I see no reason to throw away a 1000 USD device away just because a 20 USD component just died in it. That brings the value of the device down A LOT even if the other components are beyond amazing.
Somehow some way, my 1 year old M1 MacBook Pro has 43TB TBW currently. That’s about 112GB a day on average… most likely because of the way it uses swap memory because of its limited RAM capacity of 8GB.
Yep. I love how a lot of these videos say something along the lines of "even with 50GB per day which is a lot, your SSD will last years" while I look at others who are reporting 100+ GB per day. That's what mine was doing before I returned it.
My 256G M1 mac got 1.1TB writes in 10 days.
@@dreamcode4204 Yikes. Is that with heavy use?
@@spareroomtech Yes. For coding, VMs, Servers, SDK, software buildings. But who is gonna use a laptop for 10 years? 3-4 years I will replace it with another one. The most thing i don't like Apple is that they soilder chips on logic boards and you hardly be able to upgrade it. I will contact some engineers to upgrade my M1 from 8GB to 16GB. But 16G isn't a lot. My i9 9900K hackintosh has 64GB of RAM, which almost can do everything.
@@dreamcode4204if thats a 320tbw ssd that will last a year.
With the SSD soldered in, you should be worried about it failing. Because when it fails for one of two reasons, Apple charges premium for the repair.
The two reasons for failing are wear and sudden death. Latter caused by a component failing and causing a short. When this happens the data is possibly gone.
Well we have a thing called the cloud and external ssd that if anyone is worried about anything failing then nothing is lost
I recall with the SSD scare a few years ago , that the data written for % used gave the MacBook SSD a 9000 write cycle count .
I thought there are companies out there now that can offer an ssd replacement even when soldered to the board
Can you do a comparison between the father of laptops MSI GE76 Raider with Intel i9 12900hk and RTX 3080 To and the MacBook Pro with M1 max
Does partitioning of drive help?
Ssd only die fast for people who completely fill all their free space. Sadly with the pitiful amount of storage apple chooses for these, that encompasses many many users.
Long enough to resell it before the value craters 😈
Another great video! Been kinda worried about my SSD but this gave me assurance. Thanks!
Great information! Appreciate how you explained it all!
wow, thank you. Your video makes me calmer now. it's been a few days i thought about the age of the ssd and tried to sell my macbook pro m1 13 base model LOL
Does the Mac do the wear leveling automatically?
The controller on the SSD does.
Can you please link the video you talked about in the video saying,"How to check the bytes written"? Thank you!
I actually haven't made it yet haha...give me about 2 days, it's my next video.
@@CreatedTech Sure! Looking forward to that!🌟
my pc laptop and desktop SSDs are 2 and 5 years old between them😉
Excellent video! All of my data is on external drives. I had a 15' inch i7 touchbar before and it lasted me 5 years, I switched to M1 pro now. Average professional with resource intensive needs will have changed their system every 5 years at the latest - which is a way shorter term than lifespan of most SSDs.
Don't use the SSD for file swapping. That cycles the SSD too much. Make sure you have enough RAM. That will protect your SSD
The SSD in my daily driver 2013 MBPr is still going strong.