I did it a lot on the t2 in the 90s, I just acquired a fish tales and I realized that it works well on this one too. In the past, we also had the technique of lifting the pinball completely to save the ball when the tilt was deactivated 😆
I tried this on a TZ and it did indeed leave me with a sore palm and wrist. It's easier on a machine that's NOT a big heavy widebody! That being said I've usually gotten a lot better at just messing with the machine to keep the ball from entering the outlane in the first place, especially on games where there's a fair amount of rubber up at the top.
@@theharvardyard2356 That mostly depends on the individual game you are playing. The only way to know is trying it out. Although if the game has wire rails behind the flippers, it is unlikely to work.
@@inigoperezdeisla4657 Ah. I have seen these wire rails on William's Hurricane, but not the other machines I played on. Do they have other uses, or are they primary against bang backs (and death saves?)? And why do so few machines have them then?
The Bang Back is such a viable move to do in the original Pokemon pinball, as there was no tilt and the up nudge is MORE than strong enough to get the ball back into play, granted that it has a MUCH stronger nudging than most other pinsim games. I know, PinSim vs Real Life, but still.
@Steve Whalen I can tell you that on the Last Action Hero table there is a small strip of metal behind each flipper, which might interfere with a bang back. I haven't successfully performed the bang back on LAH.
Does this move only work effectively on certain tables such as Twilight Zone or on many/most tables? I tried this on Lord of the Rings and did not have any success (My first time trying, so maybe I was doing it wrong.)
I wonder if Jersey Jack Pinball put mini-games in the outlanes specifically to prevent bang backs. By the way, there's a skill I think you forgot to mention in the intermediate section called the slap save.
Ryan Rardin Well, if you're talking about the WOZ left outlane jet bumper, that doesn't help. In fact, any balls that drained from that were slow enough to give players plenty of time to react. Come to think of it, that's the *only* game I could ever perform a successful bangback on.
Wow. I been doing this all these years and did not know it. But I just use my leg or hip (I am 6 foot 3). Not all that much though as I don't want to damage the machine, and the tilt switches (PBHOF) are touchy.
Ya you cheated and took the metal rails off from under the flippers, all the machines around here have them and you can't do the left save , however you can do right lane death saves depending on ball speed and you can't have any tilt warnings active or you probably will tilt although I have done it twice during a ball ocasionly!
Not all machines have those, in fact, most do not. Twilight Zone doesn't so they didn't remove anything. But you're right that, on machines which do, this is essentially impossible.
If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.
I was playing pinball arcade and tried it by banging my pc. It didn't work...
I cannot believe I actually laughed at this. I need help. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
To perform the bang back you must also be trained in the exquisite art of the 5 finger death punch by master Pai Mei...
TZ is the perfect game to both lose a ball quickly down the left outlane AND break your wrist.
I did it a lot on the t2 in the 90s, I just acquired a fish tales and I realized that it works well on this one too. In the past, we also had the technique of lifting the pinball completely to save the ball when the tilt was deactivated 😆
I mean..if tilt is deactivated, there are lots of ways to save balls.
Lucky. Fish Tails is absolutely one of my favorite tables. Rocky & Bullwinkle is my favorite.
I tried this on a TZ and it did indeed leave me with a sore palm and wrist. It's easier on a machine that's NOT a big heavy widebody!
That being said I've usually gotten a lot better at just messing with the machine to keep the ball from entering the outlane in the first place, especially on games where there's a fair amount of rubber up at the top.
The technique is dependent on the game being used. It won't work on some titles at all. On others, it depends how the game is set up.
Has anyone ever made a list of games it does or doesn't work on? I'd rather know beforehand if I'm gonna end up just hurting my hand.
@@theharvardyard2356 That mostly depends on the individual game you are playing. The only way to know is trying it out. Although if the game has wire rails behind the flippers, it is unlikely to work.
@@inigoperezdeisla4657 Ah. I have seen these wire rails on William's Hurricane, but not the other machines I played on. Do they have other uses, or are they primary against bang backs (and death saves?)? And why do so few machines have them then?
The Bang Back is such a viable move to do in the original Pokemon pinball, as there was no tilt and the up nudge is MORE than strong enough to get the ball back into play, granted that it has a MUCH stronger nudging than most other pinsim games. I know, PinSim vs Real Life, but still.
+TheLomdr I remember the instruction manual actually mentions bang-backs.
This is definitely the best machine on which to learn how to do Bang Backs.
Played it a little on Pinball Arcade on Steam, and damn, Twilight Zone immediately struck me as rather difficult.
@Steve Whalen I can tell you that on the Last Action Hero table there is a small strip of metal behind each flipper, which might interfere with a bang back. I haven't successfully performed the bang back on LAH.
Does this move only work effectively on certain tables such as Twilight Zone or on many/most tables? I tried this on Lord of the Rings and did not have any success (My first time trying, so maybe I was doing it wrong.)
Is there a vid for dead save?
I wonder if Jersey Jack Pinball put mini-games in the outlanes specifically to prevent bang backs. By the way, there's a skill I think you forgot to mention in the intermediate section called the slap save.
Ryan Rardin Well, if you're talking about the WOZ left outlane jet bumper, that doesn't help. In fact, any balls that drained from that were slow enough to give players plenty of time to react. Come to think of it, that's the *only* game I could ever perform a successful bangback on.
Wow. I been doing this all these years and did not know it. But I just use my leg or hip (I am 6 foot 3). Not all that much though as I don't want to damage the machine, and the tilt switches (PBHOF) are touchy.
I wonder if @theslowmoguys could make the video showing the bang back in slow motion...
I've played on one of them twilight zone pinball machines, they had one at a godfathers pizza I used eat at.
This technique actually works for Pro Pinball sim by pressing side nudge and center nudge at the same time.
Not familiar with the real version of this game. He says it only works on the left outlane. What keeps this from working on the right outlane?
do a death save on the right outlane
so it doesn't work on the right side? If not how come?
If the ball goes down the right outlane you have to do a death save. Same idea, different technique.
3 twilight zone pinball machines
Wait!! What?! 😳
Is there any chance of this harming the machine?
I don't know, but the real question is "what is a bang back?!"
Yes. It is possible to harm the machine in this way, especially if the legs aren't attached quite right... but more likely to harm the player.
nice hax
Hip works better
Most of the machines on location around here would tilt anyway if you were to attempt this.
THERE ARE NO ILLEGAL MOVES IN MY PINBALL! DEATH SAVES / BANG BACKS / EXTRA BALLS / REPLAYS IN TOURNAMENTS BABY!
Ya you cheated and took the metal rails off from under the flippers, all the machines around here have them and you can't do the left save , however you can do right lane death saves depending on ball speed and you can't have any tilt warnings active or you probably will tilt although I have done it twice during a ball ocasionly!
Not all machines have those, in fact, most do not. Twilight Zone doesn't so they didn't remove anything. But you're right that, on machines which do, this is essentially impossible.