Meyer square for long cuts 1(longsword)
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2014
- На этом видео мы попытаемся рассмотреть какие принципы построения последовательностей заложены в схеме "квадрат Мейера". Обычно большинство учеников в исторических европейских боевых искусствах используют такие вариации ударов длинным мечом, которые считаются более подходящими для стиля фехтования 16 века. Но интересно также было бы сравнить вариации Мейера в отношении ударов длинного меча разных типов, например когда меч рассекает мишень, или проходит сквозь условную позицию мишени с большой амплитудой без остановки. Сохраняется ли в случае тяжелых длинных рубящих ударов полезность принципов построения секвенций Мейера? Для этого мы каждую из вариаций "квадрата Мейера", переделаем в стиле тяжелых рубящих ударов. У таких атакующих действий мечом будут свои нюансы, они заключаются в том, как происходит переход между траекториями ударов, и в том, как используются положения всего тела. Содержание видео разбито на две части, в этой первой части, будет объяснение принципов построения комбинаций из длинных ударов, и адаптация движений, для начальной секвенции из диаграммы Мейера. Надеемся что этот эксперимент натолкнет исследователей средневековых боевых искусств на размышленияи более глубокий анализ логики мастеров фехтования эпохи ренессанса.
In this video we will try to consider what kind of design principles laid down in the scheme of sequences "square Meyer." Typically, the majority of students in historical European martial arts use such variations beats longsword, which are considered more suitable for the style of the 16th century fencing. But it is also interesting as it would be to compare the variation Meyer strikes in relation to longsword cuts different types, such as when the sword cuts through the target or passes through a conditional target position with a large amplitude without stopping. Does the case of heavy long chopping cuts utility construction principles sequences Meyer? To do this, we each of the variations of "square Meyer" remake in the style of heavy chopping cuts. Such sword attack will have their own nuances, they are in how the transition between the trajectories of cuts, and how to use the position of the body. Video content is divided into two parts, this first part will explain the principles of constructing combinations of long cuts and adaptation of movements for primary sequence of diagrams Meyer. We hope that this experiment will lead researchers medieval martial arts to reflections about deeper analysis of the logic of fencing masters of the Renaissance. - Спорт
This is a very good set of videos on the Meyer box....i just started studying German Longsword about a month ago....Could you add English subtitles to the "box" videos? I dont speak Russian....thx
Thank you for your interest in the video, I'll try to do the subtitles, but maybe they will be a little inaccurate because I will translate using Google translator. If something seems unclear, ask questions, making the material on this subject I have tried to present options more simple techniques, they may not coincide with the current interpretation of the German style of fencing.
No problem....Do what you can...i find the Meyer Square very difficult to understand....its confusing but i have to see it demonstrated and try it myself in order to gain a better understanding...thx....btw...on a side note i have a couple of vids on Roman Gladius employment on my channel that might interest you..
Thank you very much.
Although I don't speak Russian, I think I understood your approach to Meyer's box system.
I very much liked your synthetic waster, which company makes those swords?
It is very pleasing to your interest in the material in the video. We tried to find other possible combinations of punches that were not included in the traditional sequence Meyer. Our method of cutting stroke we do not quite standard for European clubs HEMA. But we have found all the missing options combinations diagonal strokes in groups of 4 elements.Perhaps it will be useful in further work.Synthetic Vaster video all made our club, they are heavier European swords for sparring, because we are studying the impact of technology on the hard axis of the blade. When the sword is too flexible, some elements of the impact on the blade are obtained in violation. We do different models for different weapons training exercises, and do not use always the same universal model. Our swords are not as safe as those that are accepted in European and American HEMA.
How do you replicate the bind of sharp swords connecting with each other?
I find that is the hardest thing to imitate with synthetic weapons, a sharp sword has many dynamics which travel along the blade, where the soft material of wasters doesn't stick as much, and can't be felt in the grip as easily.
Paul Sweeney You have a very good question about how the blades of swords behave in contact. Today I will write you an answer in more detail.
Paul Sweeney Plastic Vaster provide a perfect sliding swords at the contact point. It's not like the behavior of these swords sharpened blades because the blades of steel weapons with mutual impact of 90 degrees are severely injured and block sliding. But in contact at a very acute angle, hit the steel swords vice versa leads to a good sliding. In order to exercise more profitable to learn how to manage sliding swords to predict in which direction and how hard potentially continue the movement of weapons. So we have a lot of time it takes to develop feelings for "balance point" blades, even when plastic swords impact not slide on each other. Balance of effort when connecting edges blades will depend on how much weight each of the fighters, and how well it controls your body to adjust to keep pace with changes in the slope of the blade. "Catch" the equilibrium point effort by performing the protection of the blade sliding material is difficult, but it teaches very quickly to establish the orientation of the movement of the entire body in the direction of the contact area of swords to their advantage. At the beginning of training, we use a lot of protection, which are perceived as wrong in the European HEMA community. This is due to the fact that the steel weapons is difficult to find a point of focus for effective skills training tilt the blade to their advantage. Plastic sword is ideal for quickly getting used to, whereafter a pin point will slide swords even with the minimal change in the angle of impact. If steel swords begin to slide only when a large force of impact and at an angle that is markedly different from 90 degrees, the synthetic training swords forced to react to slip, even when a small force is applied. In fencing, it is important to change the option of protection in accordance with the conditions the situation. In some situations beneficial to swords slid against each other, while in other cases it is not profitable, for example when you spend at close range disarm or wrestling techniques. In these cases, it is useful to make the sword of the enemy completely static position. In the steel weapons, we run the risk of damaging the blade straight stops than when using plastic. Sword of plastic allows to try those situations where the steel sword would spoil sooner than you can manage to get a good experience in managing different angles swords after the attacks with different force. translated from the Russian language, I do Google-translator, so inquire when there is an incomprehensible phrase, I reformulate it in other words.
Longsword Russia ...we use a lot of "protection"... - In this case, Google translate is not entirely correct, there probably fit the word "sword guards".
I have no idea what he is saying but it sounds dangerous
Hello! Why did you decide that there is a dangerous sound in this video?)
Because Russians are scary lol :
Subtitles syka bliet.
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+Longsword Russia I dont speak russian but it was a joke anyway, didnt mean to offend
in Russian is a very aggressive variant of communication, which means that the questioner is ready to receive violence in his address. write in English, or use the Google translator, it is generally okay to drive the message
+Longsword Russia Oh, sorry, i knew it was swearwords but some russian friends i has told me its just a funny thing to say. maybe they wanted me to get in trouble as a joke hahaha
ShaNagmaImmuru Unfamiliar Russian in this combination data word to say for sure it is not necessary)). This will be accompanied by a serious injury to your address. It's like showing a red rag to the bull.))