why is it so weird for people to just say they find someone attractive? why do we have to keep sorting people into different "types" of attractiveness? it's really strange tbh
@princessslaya937 hot* rodents! most of them that have been questioned laugh it off and say they're happy to be considered hot, like Jeremy Allen. They're celebrities, I'm sure they've heard so much worse
This is legitimately true!!! These categories most likely arose because people were like "this person is attractive to me but don't fit the current beauty standard," so a whole aesthetic has to be created in order to justify the "why he kinda...." attitude. I feel like in order to truly tackle the issue, we have to stop judging people's preferences (and faces) so hard as a society.
Now you understand why blatant racism and bigotry exists and why non white people constantly fight against this ideal of what it means to be beautiful if we don’t fit the “classification” of white beauty standards given our features are often diametrically opposed to other white features. Black people especially. Having higher cheek bones, fuller lips, wider noses, fuller eyes(on average) kinkier less straight hair…… Notice we get “classified” often for purposes of being excluded.
To be honest, I think most people try not to talk about black people looks as animals because of the horrible history. The first time I heard of rodent men without knowing the context, I thought, " it better not be a Jewish thing."
@TheSmark666 yeah...kinda At this point, it's better to avoid categorizing people's looks, especially regarding hair and nose. TikTok is such shitshow. The witch skull or princess skull thing was even worse. Overtly antisemitic.
Nah people say whatever they want about black people 😂 aint nobody careful about a damn thing. ANd if they are its so they wont get in trouble not because they know its wrong
Truly, I think we as a society are so simultaneously repressed and oversexualized (both of which get reinforced by Hollywood's concepts of beauty) that we end up creating and then discussing the merits and drawbacks of categories like "rodent man" rather than people just... unabashedly liking what they like. Maybe I just feel particularly impatient with it all because I'm a lesbian and trying to divest of conventional concepts of attractiveness, but it just gets more and more bizarre to me as time goes on.
This is legitimately true!!! These categories most likely arose because people were like "this person is attractive to me but don't fit the current beauty standard," so a whole aesthetic has to be created in order to justify the "why he kinda...." attitude. I feel like in order to truly tackle the issue, we have to stop judging people's preferences (and faces) so hard as a society.
The problem with this phenomenon started when it went from being a silly thing you joked about with your moots to literal publications in digital newspapers and articles like, once that line gets crossed everything turns to shit
I had not thought about this, but I think you are right, the "unconventionaly attractive" its just to say they are attractive but not exactly in the "Hollywood square faced masculine looking kinda attractive" that was kind of the norm.
You need to first qualify as “conventionally attractive” in order to be described as “unconventionally attractive”- that was such a lightbulb moment! Thank you for sharing your insight.
I call this effect “British face” because I originally started to notice it with the rise of British crossover celebrities like Eddie Redmayne, Tom Hiddleston, Matt Smith, and Harry Styles. It’s like those shifting pictures from the 90s where if you look at them from the exact right angle they’re hot, but from every other angles less so. No longer just British men, but the name still stands in my circle.
it’s just weird to me because I thought we’re not supposed to speak on peoples looks like this…I don’t think people realize that this can make the men insecure as well.
People just don't care. Whether they've been made insecure by men and want some kind of power back or they don't see it as a real thing to be insecure about because at the end of the day these men are attractive.
As a disabled guy who has always struggled with body image issues, I appreciate you saying this. It seems like every other form of discrimination is rightfully avoided except for physical appearance.
I think maybe it would be better to start saying “uniquely attractive” because sometimes those odd features are the thing that makes them really stand out
Sometimes I feel like people feel pressured to downplay how attracted they are to their partner, simply because their partner isn't someone everyone around them is climbing over themselves to try to bone. Whenever I talk to someone who says their partner isn't the best looking, I have to wonder if they truly believe that, or if they feel shamed (not just by "society", but friends and family) over how their partner looks.
You only brought him up at the end but I've always been confused at how people act surprised by Pete Davidson's dating history. Outside of his face (for some) he ticks many conventional attractive boxes (6'4 heavily tattooed millionaire) and that's without taking his humor into account.
I don’t believe he was a millionaire or even all that rich pre dating Ariana. He was doing well in the comedy space but just barely getting scenes on SNL and really small roles in low budget streaming platform films. But he is definitely Ariana’s TYPE. From the momentum of that relationship he blew up, made a lot more money (and good for him, I’m not mad about that)
I think there's still some holdouts acting like tattoos make you look weird or lower your attractiveness, despite seemingly everyone and their grandmas having tattoos now.
@@gregvs.theworld451 visit east and south asian countries. Your perception of "everyone and their grandmas" or of anyone else being a "holdout" is critically wrong. You just live in a very particular demographic and think that it's the norm.
@@sen7826 Fair. I'm aware the internet is very Americano centric but it is a bit presumptive to not clarify my perspective comes from the American cultural zeitgeist. I'm very aware not every place is super tattoo friendly or has lots of people with tattoos.
Extraordinarily well-thought out and presented. Your analysis around race, weight, etc. hit the mark hard, and I concurred with every one of your assessments of who was outside the “rodent man” category and why. Some would call this a superficial subject and say you were overthinking, but for me it’s a deep, thinking-person’s dive. Thank you!
THANK YOU for addressing this! I feel like I had to make excuses for “I’m not actually hot” but now it’s just “I have bigger problems than how hot I think others think I am”.
Yeah. These guys still have solid face shape and a full head of hair. The features are maybe funny but still symmetrical and not too obtrusive. It’s endearing because other things are right.
@@headerahelix I'm not saying no one's ever liked them before, but rather the stigma against them is more absent. Ask your parents what they think of these animals, and their answers will differ significantly from that of a random college student.
@@2dan4me97gen z doesn't have to deal with trash animals in their garbage because they can't afford to own homes. So of course they're endeared by what they mostly interact with online through videos
I don't know what it says about me, but when I saw the thumbnail and title I got confused because a guy being a " rat man " to me meant he had a grungy/mischievous/sneaky personality or vibe. Another great video !
@@cseptember6562imagine this was done for anyone who was black publicly, the backlash would be to much to bear for whoever makes the comparison so it won’t be done unless someone is looking for backlash or attention.
The western world is a society where it is unacceptable to compare minorities to animals literally, for better or worse depending on your own opinions and beliefs
@@gabrieledwards4794 There would be no backlash for women saying that they find unconventionally attractive black men attractive. I am black and I wouldnt care. And there are other groups of people. This doesnt exist for asian or hispanic/latino men either and I doubt there would be backlash for them. Backlash isnt the reason. They just love white men lol. No matter how mediocre they look
Why do we suddenly now always feel the need to shove people into labelled boxes? Like why can’t people just tell someone they think they are attractive and move on with their life?
you really explained this whole idea really well. unconventionally attractive women are actually very conventionally attractive, it's simply their "otherness" that makes it unconventional
He looks like someone photoshopped Gene Wilder's face onto a male model. Never watched anything he's in but the willy wonka prequel was stolen from him.
This is such a college kid conversation lol. I was cooking dinner while this autoplayed in the background. Shrimp scampi in garlic butter. People...just be yourselves. Look at how clothes drape on your body and make it work for you. Love how you look. Walk confidently while you pick up your groceries or toiletries or what have you. Live your life and be fine with looking ridiculous. Attractiveness comes when you leave it alone.
I'm hoping that we continue to get better. I agree with your analysis that "unconventionally attractive" people are still in the circle of conventionally attractive people but with one little thing different. I think it's because society is becoming more attracted to interesting and different. I just hopes that keeps continuing until we let go of the beauty standard that is still so ingrained in us.
That exists but there is also, "Anglo Saxon female privilege". Ex. They don't go to jail. Rarely if ever for being a teacher preying on children or even capital crimes as we see with the Karen case.
Agree being compared to Stuart Little is a compliment But sorry/ not sorry, it's not a compliment comparing someone to a rat in general. It's a backhanded one at best. E.G --Role Reversal: Me--"Hey gurrrl, you looking like a whole RODENT this mornin!!🗣🗣🗣. Wanna go get a bite with me?😃😄"
‘Stuart Little 2’ literally had a female character who was so in love with Stuart (and his family) that she gave up a career in crime working in a toxic environment
I hear what you're saying about how these "rat man" are often white guys, but imo I think part of it for guys of color could be that comparing not white guys to animals historically gets really dicey really fast (From white people's pov). If I saw a non white dude who I thought fit the "rat man" aesthetic, I still probably wouldn't call him that in an effort to avoid a conversation about what exactly I mean by that. But I am a white dude so. Edit: Whoop. You said that right after I made my comment. My fault for not watching the whole video before commenting.
French guy here...I've never heard the expression "jolie-laide" (which should be pronounced like the metal "lead", or laid, except without the diphtong on the "I", rather than like "lad")
it's in the first paragraph about French standards of beauty in French Wikipedia's article about feminine beauty standards. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%C3%A9al_de_beaut%C3%A9_f%C3%A9minin#En_France
I haven't seen that show you mentioned, and I agree that based on that screenshot you posted Lena's character looked fine, but it might be worth pointing out Lena Dunham is a very controversial figure to a lot of people, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the well of criticism was coming from. Edit: Although, to steelman the point, a lot of people who want to degrade a slightly larger woman will often salivate when a justified reason to dislike them comes out, so they can continue bashing on that person and claim it's because of the bad thing they did, not because they're not thin/white/wearing makeup/whatever. See: Lizzo
As someone who doesn't enter the uh, analytical side of internet attraction science. And was fully unaware of the animal standard for male attractiveness, this was certainly an introduction
Amanda thinking Glen Powell is Australian got me somehow... 😅😅😂🤣🤣🙈 (also agree with your assessment in the end that "unconventionally attractive" is still under the umbrella of "conventionally attractive", especially if we're considering western standards of beauty 👀👀)
Well I dno if this is a big white thing, I'd say you are DEFINITELY fully conventionally attractive. I think you might just have a bias being black, tbh the most conventionally, and often mega flawless people these days, especially women, are those japanese/korean k=pop idols. That are reaching a level of beauty no white person is reasonably gonna achieve.
I subscribed to this YT channel because you sang Lorde’s Royals on that one video 😂 tell me exactly why did I stay around? Oh because you take extra care when making your videos.
I always saw humans having resemblance of certain animals. Rodents, yes, but also wolves, cats and birds. Anyone else feel the same way or is it just me?
only one minute into the video and im laughing uncontrollably how is this real?? and why do i see exactly what types of rodents they look like LMFJSHDGHDSHS
they’re just more interesting to look at. It kinda reminds me of how some models will get turned down for jobs bc their beauty is too “classic” or they’re too “conventionally attractive”; after a while this aesthetic just gets boring to see
Omg im sitting here with my eyebrows shaved off big ass hair and a gap in my teeth wondering how unconventional I look to other people now 😂😂😂😂 and I'm a size 14 and 5'11 Jesus 😂
This makes me uncomfortable because as you said, “unconventionally attractive” is really only focused on white men, and everyone else just kinda is hot or not. Both women and people of color are not the topic of conversation. It’s just like, somehow, calling a white man a rat is now a compliment?
I completely agree, and whilst I think it's an overused term, I do think the 'female gaze' or simply the appeal of men with just enough feminine qualities, plays a huge part in the rodent trend, take the Challenegrs leads for example. In general the film objectifies them more compared to the female characer, with their masculinity constantly being questioned. Art especially exhibits alot of vunerability and sensitivity, notably at the hands of a dominating women, which definitely plays a part on why the internet became so obsessed with his character. This even follows through with the actors' themeselves. People have expressed a massive love for Josh O'Connor, purely because he comes off as quite literally adorable, he's this incredibly sweet and non threatening guy, making him more appealing to lots of women, plus he is clearly talented actor. Whilst Mike Faist can come off as much more saracstic amd intense, even seeming like the more 'masculine' one of the duo, his extensive theatre background definitely shuts this down. Very so, he has gained plenty of fans through his vocals and that fact that he is actually quite a beautiful and talented dancer. Which is not often seen in alot of Hollywood men.
I am so confused about the allos and their requirements for attractiveness. At the same time, I am so compelled to understand. What does it all mean??????? My aroace ass may never know.
I never thought my compliment would be trending! My friend of 10yrs is so cute I started calling her “baby hamster” (2015) a few days we met! Never thought the compliment would trickle down to other rodents such as rats and mice!😂😅❤
I've been comparing men in my life to the rat from Flushed Away for years, so I'm glad the Internet has finally caught wind! I think this comparison has less to do with the men's striking similarity to the rat, and more to do with the rat's striking similarity to the men. In other words, I think that the specific rat from Flushed Away looks like a lot of humans, but that doesn't mean those humans look like rats, just that one specific rat. No wonder the producer based the rat on Matty Healy's appearance!
If Mike Faist and Josh O’Connor are considered ‘rodent men’ i have no fucking idea what attractive is anymore? How much of a perfectly sculpted Greek-god statue do i have to be to be considered ‘conventionally attractive’? Wtf is that. No idea how talking about someone like that allowed on mainstream media, also that its ok becuz they’re dudes is a bit sad, i mean those newscasters need to preach some equal respect here
There is way to much emphasis on looks in society.You can find people attractive based on all sorts of things, not just looks. Also I think the internet gives a scewed version of reality. I live in a majority white country, am darker skintoned and overweight but with a smaller waist and big bust. A lot of people compliment me from diffrent backgrounds. Not just guys, the kids at the school I work or other women to. I think being being attracted to people can differ from "being attractive" because as cliché as it sounds... It really is about the whole package. I think people are surprised if they find somebody attractive that the media hasn't told they should find attractive. Tbh a lot of the guys you showed didn't seem attractive to me. Kendrick actually looked better then most of them 😅. But i guess in mainstream American media; white and skinny is still right. Thank goodness for the internet. I watch a lot of diffrent people and seeing all that diversity does really help for confidence for me personally. At the end of the day we are all people and everybody wants to be threated nice regardless of how you look. So I like to threat everybody with the same kindness regardless of their look because I hope the would do that for me to. Love your videos ❤.
Im not the “ugliest” but Lmao I literally hate my face and hearing this whole conversation was enlightening but sucked to realize. as a woman, it does a lot to your self esteem, feeling a bit out of placed and judged for what you do because of the way you look etc, idk I’ve been coping by taking care of my health and staying relatively thin, learning to play with makeup whatever, I love clothes so I dress ok and still it feels like I’m getting better atmost things but I still feel stuck sometimes, I know what I wish I could fix, so if ur a doctor giving away free facial procedures hmu😂🤣🤣
why is it so weird for people to just say they find someone attractive? why do we have to keep sorting people into different "types" of attractiveness? it's really strange tbh
because humans like to sort and classify things, and notice traits that group people together. Also online people have a lot of time to think
@princessslaya937 hot* rodents! most of them that have been questioned laugh it off and say they're happy to be considered hot, like Jeremy Allen. They're celebrities, I'm sure they've heard so much worse
This is legitimately true!!! These categories most likely arose because people were like "this person is attractive to me but don't fit the current beauty standard," so a whole aesthetic has to be created in order to justify the "why he kinda...." attitude. I feel like in order to truly tackle the issue, we have to stop judging people's preferences (and faces) so hard as a society.
Because they'll roast the hell out of you if you do 😂
Now you understand why blatant racism and bigotry exists and why non white people constantly fight against this ideal of what it means to be beautiful if we don’t fit the “classification” of white beauty standards given our features are often diametrically opposed to other white features. Black people especially. Having higher cheek bones, fuller lips, wider noses, fuller eyes(on average) kinkier less straight hair……
Notice we get “classified” often for purposes of being excluded.
To be honest, I think most people try not to talk about black people looks as animals because of the horrible history.
The first time I heard of rodent men without knowing the context, I thought, " it better not be a Jewish thing."
except that's exactly what it is lmao
@TheSmark666 yeah...kinda
At this point, it's better to avoid categorizing people's looks, especially regarding hair and nose.
TikTok is such shitshow.
The witch skull or princess skull thing was even worse. Overtly antisemitic.
Dude, seriously. First thought that came to mind was Dustin Hoffman in "Midnight Cowboy."
Some Black women are compared to pitbulls. Pitbull, rat, I don't see the compliment.
Nah people say whatever they want about black people 😂 aint nobody careful about a damn thing. ANd if they are its so they wont get in trouble not because they know its wrong
Imagine if men and women could just be honest about liking each other and not need to hide it behind irony and jokes and bullshit :(
It's impossible in this world.
Truly, I think we as a society are so simultaneously repressed and oversexualized (both of which get reinforced by Hollywood's concepts of beauty) that we end up creating and then discussing the merits and drawbacks of categories like "rodent man" rather than people just... unabashedly liking what they like. Maybe I just feel particularly impatient with it all because I'm a lesbian and trying to divest of conventional concepts of attractiveness, but it just gets more and more bizarre to me as time goes on.
Divest from*, whoops 🫠
This is legitimately true!!! These categories most likely arose because people were like "this person is attractive to me but don't fit the current beauty standard," so a whole aesthetic has to be created in order to justify the "why he kinda...." attitude. I feel like in order to truly tackle the issue, we have to stop judging people's preferences (and faces) so hard as a society.
Like, I get why women would be more willing to distance themselves from what they like...but ultimately it's does no one any favors.
The problem with this phenomenon started when it went from being a silly thing you joked about with your moots to literal publications in digital newspapers and articles like, once that line gets crossed everything turns to shit
its beyond ridiculous at that point
Moots??
@@kamikazeftw "mutuals" when you and another person mutually follow each other on a social media platform
@thorealparis8959 ohh thx bro. Didn't know they call that moots now. Sounds kinda bad ngl, doesn't have a ring to it lol
I had not thought about this, but I think you are right, the "unconventionaly attractive" its just to say they are attractive but not exactly in the "Hollywood square faced masculine looking kinda attractive" that was kind of the norm.
You need to first qualify as “conventionally attractive” in order to be described as “unconventionally attractive”- that was such a lightbulb moment! Thank you for sharing your insight.
“You’re so roach-like! Not in a bad way but just how you persevere and survive the odds!!”
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😂😂
I love tapping on a video essay that introduces me to internet concepts that don’t make it to my timeline. We live in different worlds
I call this effect “British face” because I originally started to notice it with the rise of British crossover celebrities like Eddie Redmayne, Tom Hiddleston, Matt Smith, and Harry Styles. It’s like those shifting pictures from the 90s where if you look at them from the exact right angle they’re hot, but from every other angles less so. No longer just British men, but the name still stands in my circle.
it’s just weird to me because I thought we’re not supposed to speak on peoples looks like this…I don’t think people realize that this can make the men insecure as well.
It's a free country. There's nothing wrong with discourse.
People just don't care. Whether they've been made insecure by men and want some kind of power back or they don't see it as a real thing to be insecure about because at the end of the day these men are attractive.
As a disabled guy who has always struggled with body image issues, I appreciate you saying this. It seems like every other form of discrimination is rightfully avoided except for physical appearance.
@@mewmew6158 totally agree, but that doesn't make it right.
I completely agree, I personally wouldn’t want to be compared to a dirty rat
People on TikTok have discovered conventionally attractive white guys with one or two unique features
Tik Tok is a plague.
Benedict Cumberbatch comes to mind. He has often been told he looks like an otter
Let's not insult otters, they're cute 🥺
Or penglins
Pengin
Penguin
@@literaIIyshyrats are cute too have u not seen pet rats and all the rat cartoon movies 😂
Ok, so my husband has long been compared to a mouse. Cracks me up that now he's "on trend".
I think maybe it would be better to start saying “uniquely attractive” because sometimes those odd features are the thing that makes them really stand out
Sometimes I feel like people feel pressured to downplay how attracted they are to their partner, simply because their partner isn't someone everyone around them is climbing over themselves to try to bone. Whenever I talk to someone who says their partner isn't the best looking, I have to wonder if they truly believe that, or if they feel shamed (not just by "society", but friends and family) over how their partner looks.
You only brought him up at the end but I've always been confused at how people act surprised by Pete Davidson's dating history. Outside of his face (for some) he ticks many conventional attractive boxes (6'4 heavily tattooed millionaire) and that's without taking his humor into account.
Plus everybody says he's well endowed
I don’t believe he was a millionaire or even all that rich pre dating Ariana. He was doing well in the comedy space but just barely getting scenes on SNL and really small roles in low budget streaming platform films. But he is definitely Ariana’s TYPE. From the momentum of that relationship he blew up, made a lot more money (and good for him, I’m not mad about that)
I think there's still some holdouts acting like tattoos make you look weird or lower your attractiveness, despite seemingly everyone and their grandmas having tattoos now.
@@gregvs.theworld451 visit east and south asian countries. Your perception of "everyone and their grandmas" or of anyone else being a "holdout" is critically wrong. You just live in a very particular demographic and think that it's the norm.
@@sen7826 Fair. I'm aware the internet is very Americano centric but it is a bit presumptive to not clarify my perspective comes from the American cultural zeitgeist. I'm very aware not every place is super tattoo friendly or has lots of people with tattoos.
Extraordinarily well-thought out and presented. Your analysis around race, weight, etc. hit the mark hard, and I concurred with every one of your assessments of who was outside the “rodent man” category and why. Some would call this a superficial subject and say you were overthinking, but for me it’s a deep, thinking-person’s dive. Thank you!
thank you!!!
THANK YOU for addressing this! I feel like I had to make excuses for “I’m not actually hot” but now it’s just “I have bigger problems than how hot I think others think I am”.
I was reading an article on this and cringed. First woman being compared to pitbulls, then men to rats. There are other ways to compliment people!
I can’t wait till we stop doing all of this… dogs, rats, cats why not stop. ?????
Yeah. These guys still have solid face shape and a full head of hair. The features are maybe funny but still symmetrical and not too obtrusive. It’s endearing because other things are right.
I think in general, Gen Z likes rodents and "trash" animals. We don't have the same issues with racoons, rats, and possum that older generations have.
Gen Z definitely invented liking raccoons, rats and possums
@@headerahelix I'm not saying no one's ever liked them before, but rather the stigma against them is more absent. Ask your parents what they think of these animals, and their answers will differ significantly from that of a random college student.
@@2dan4me97 My parents are xoomers, we had pet mice several times 🤷♀️
@@2dan4me97gen z doesn't have to deal with trash animals in their garbage because they can't afford to own homes. So of course they're endeared by what they mostly interact with online through videos
this is a great point, like genuinely
I don't think any of those guys look like rodents. Rishi Sunak, however, definitely looks like a lost cast member from Flushed Away.
Rishi Sunak looks more like the Flushed Away rat than Matt Healy lmao
I don't know what it says about me, but when I saw the thumbnail and title I got confused because a guy being a " rat man " to me meant he had a grungy/mischievous/sneaky personality or vibe. Another great video !
They're all white
Yep. Thats the only reason why this term exists. There isnt a thing like this for any other race
I'm here waiting for this to be pointed out forever
@@cseptember6562imagine this was done for anyone who was black publicly, the backlash would be to much to bear for whoever makes the comparison so it won’t be done unless someone is looking for backlash or attention.
The western world is a society where it is unacceptable to compare minorities to animals literally, for better or worse depending on your own opinions and beliefs
@@gabrieledwards4794 There would be no backlash for women saying that they find unconventionally attractive black men attractive. I am black and I wouldnt care.
And there are other groups of people. This doesnt exist for asian or hispanic/latino men either and I doubt there would be backlash for them.
Backlash isnt the reason. They just love white men lol. No matter how mediocre they look
My sister had a crush on Stuart Little tbh
Why do we suddenly now always feel the need to shove people into labelled boxes? Like why can’t people just tell someone they think they are attractive and move on with their life?
you really explained this whole idea really well. unconventionally attractive women are actually very conventionally attractive, it's simply their "otherness" that makes it unconventional
I feel like Jeremy Allen White isn't a hot rodent man lol. He doesn't look that rodent like to me, maybe because of his physique
He looks like a little bird to me
He looks like someone photoshopped Gene Wilder's face onto a male model. Never watched anything he's in but the willy wonka prequel was stolen from him.
This is such a college kid conversation lol. I was cooking dinner while this autoplayed in the background. Shrimp scampi in garlic butter. People...just be yourselves. Look at how clothes drape on your body and make it work for you. Love how you look. Walk confidently while you pick up your groceries or toiletries or what have you. Live your life and be fine with looking ridiculous. Attractiveness comes when you leave it alone.
The rodent men thumbnail got me omg
I had never heard of this but immediately understood
I'm hoping that we continue to get better. I agree with your analysis that "unconventionally attractive" people are still in the circle of conventionally attractive people but with one little thing different. I think it's because society is becoming more attracted to interesting and different. I just hopes that keeps continuing until we let go of the beauty standard that is still so ingrained in us.
guys drop everything new amandaamaryanna video dropped
Anglo Saxon male privilege.
That exists but there is also, "Anglo Saxon female privilege". Ex. They don't go to jail. Rarely if ever for being a teacher preying on children or even capital crimes as we see with the Karen case.
so cringe, Black Privilege is more of a thing nowadays.
Wut? Please stop with Black privilege.
@@kevinprzy4539loool how so? For black guys it’s always bbc/ sex & black women don’t get hype /traction at all
@@kevinprzy4539no it isn’t. Go outside
That “Flushed Away” story was AMAZING man🐁
Agree being compared to Stuart Little is a compliment
But sorry/ not sorry, it's not a compliment comparing someone to a rat in general. It's a backhanded one at best.
E.G --Role Reversal:
Me--"Hey gurrrl, you looking like a whole RODENT this mornin!!🗣🗣🗣.
Wanna go get a bite with me?😃😄"
I think this is okay to say if this if the "bite" is a breakfast of cheese or perhaps breadcrumbs
@@astroblast2325 I was honestly thinking that. "...Is the "bite" cheese? Because my answer then is maybe."
A singular bite for m'lady ofcourse 😂@@gregvs.theworld451
Timothy is literally Maud Dib, the desert mouse.
Ok, I'm starting to see the stand up comedian in you now 😂
hahhaha
Crazy cause that’s why she failed at it right ? 🤣🤣
‘Stuart Little 2’ literally had a female character who was so in love with Stuart (and his family) that she gave up a career in crime working in a toxic environment
Margalot
the male writers have a bad habit making female characters be interested weird characters but they seldom extend that grace to women who look weird.
Your hair looks absolutely amazing in the video
I hear what you're saying about how these "rat man" are often white guys, but imo I think part of it for guys of color could be that comparing not white guys to animals historically gets really dicey really fast (From white people's pov). If I saw a non white dude who I thought fit the "rat man" aesthetic, I still probably wouldn't call him that in an effort to avoid a conversation about what exactly I mean by that. But I am a white dude so.
Edit: Whoop. You said that right after I made my comment. My fault for not watching the whole video before commenting.
I just came to say that your hair is divinely beautiful
French guy here...I've never heard the expression "jolie-laide" (which should be pronounced like the metal "lead", or laid, except without the diphtong on the "I", rather than like "lad")
listen, french is hard lmao
@@mirandalovett6063 never said it wasn’t and I appreciate the effort ;)
ahhh got i!
it's in the first paragraph about French standards of beauty in French Wikipedia's article about feminine beauty standards. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id%C3%A9al_de_beaut%C3%A9_f%C3%A9minin#En_France
As a black “rodent” man, I want my love too!
This isnt for us bro. Theres a reason why all this type of stuff only included white men and no other race
Somebody give this man his flowers !!
This is why I’m not on twitter or tiktok 🙄
yeah because twitter is so sane and normal
17:54 you need to make a video unpacking this discourse bc WHAT?!?
I haven't seen that show you mentioned, and I agree that based on that screenshot you posted Lena's character looked fine, but it might be worth pointing out Lena Dunham is a very controversial figure to a lot of people, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the well of criticism was coming from.
Edit: Although, to steelman the point, a lot of people who want to degrade a slightly larger woman will often salivate when a justified reason to dislike them comes out, so they can continue bashing on that person and claim it's because of the bad thing they did, not because they're not thin/white/wearing makeup/whatever. See: Lizzo
Don’t do my guy Bob Duncan like that! He had a glow up!
Your commentary is so well thought out and i appreciate it❤
4:19 THIS IS CULTURAL STUDIES MATERIAL. The Internet worked hard on this
Adam and Hannah looked like a regular ass couple running around New York 😂 equally yolked to me
Would love for you to do a video on why woc or moc are never considered in these categories. No shade, but it's kinda boring when it's so very yt
she explained it in the video
@@astralyeti yh I wrote this before watching the video😭
I’ve stumbled onto your channel and now I’m just watching all the videos you have. Very interesting topics and super insightful!
There is a version of this for women.
Bird/cat/bunny and something else I forget.
Ur so prettyyyy
As someone who doesn't enter the uh, analytical side of internet attraction science. And was fully unaware of the animal standard for male attractiveness, this was certainly an introduction
Thumbnail and title is wild.
Women have discovered the ingenuity of the boxer brief. It's over fellas. 😢
We’re officially coming for you 😂
Amanda thinking Glen Powell is Australian got me somehow... 😅😅😂🤣🤣🙈
(also agree with your assessment in the end that "unconventionally attractive" is still under the umbrella of "conventionally attractive", especially if we're considering western standards of beauty 👀👀)
Well I dno if this is a big white thing, I'd say you are DEFINITELY fully conventionally attractive.
I think you might just have a bias being black, tbh the most conventionally, and often mega flawless people these days, especially women, are those japanese/korean k=pop idols.
That are reaching a level of beauty no white person is reasonably gonna achieve.
I subscribed to this YT channel because you sang Lorde’s Royals on that one video 😂 tell me exactly why did I stay around? Oh because you take extra care when making your videos.
The sudden switch from grinning "bye bye" face to "god i hate this shit" face 😂
I always saw humans having resemblance of certain animals. Rodents, yes, but also wolves, cats and birds. Anyone else feel the same way or is it just me?
only one minute into the video and im laughing uncontrollably how is this real?? and why do i see exactly what types of rodents they look like LMFJSHDGHDSHS
I could never be a celebrity. People are so mean 😂 Why can't we just say handsome.
If you’ve ever had a rat as a pet, you will understand.
This explains my crush on Adrian Brody growing up. 😂
"...and as we saw from his Calvin Klein campaign...SO MANY abs"
i am dyin
they’re just more interesting to look at. It kinda reminds me of how some models will get turned down for jobs bc their beauty is too “classic” or they’re too “conventionally attractive”; after a while this aesthetic just gets boring to see
Yup like they’re all attractive at the end of the day.
Omg im sitting here with my eyebrows shaved off big ass hair and a gap in my teeth wondering how unconventional I look to other people now 😂😂😂😂 and I'm a size 14 and 5'11 Jesus 😂
Sound hot to me lol 😅❤
Wow!! This video is SO GOOD. 😮 So much knowledge here. 👏🏾🔥👍🏾
I’m West African American.
I look like a Catfish.
🐟🐠.
Big eyes, and big puckered 👄 lips.
Unconventionally underrated UA-cam personality
Why's Stuart Little on twice in the thumbnail...🧐
He's important to the community ❤
He's that girl
"im calling you a rat as a compliment" kinda rules
It’s how I can imagine myself being a man hearing this and being like « wtf are these internet ppl talking about ?»
The fact that they're making how you look sound like a TREND kinda makes it feel like objectifying with extra steps. is it just me?
This video is so good
that really is their look too
This makes me uncomfortable because as you said, “unconventionally attractive” is really only focused on white men, and everyone else just kinda is hot or not. Both women and people of color are not the topic of conversation.
It’s just like, somehow, calling a white man a rat is now a compliment?
I completely agree, and whilst I think it's an overused term, I do think the 'female gaze' or simply the appeal of men with just enough feminine qualities, plays a huge part in the rodent trend, take the Challenegrs leads for example. In general the film objectifies them more compared to the female characer, with their masculinity constantly being questioned. Art especially exhibits alot of vunerability and sensitivity, notably at the hands of a dominating women, which definitely plays a part on why the internet became so obsessed with his character. This even follows through with the actors' themeselves. People have expressed a massive love for Josh O'Connor, purely because he comes off as quite literally adorable, he's this incredibly sweet and non threatening guy, making him more appealing to lots of women, plus he is clearly talented actor. Whilst Mike Faist can come off as much more saracstic amd intense, even seeming like the more 'masculine' one of the duo, his extensive theatre background definitely shuts this down. Very so, he has gained plenty of fans through his vocals and that fact that he is actually quite a beautiful and talented dancer. Which is not often seen in alot of Hollywood men.
I am so confused about the allos and their requirements for attractiveness.
At the same time, I am so compelled to understand. What does it all mean???????
My aroace ass may never know.
Great video! Surprised you didn’t mention Natalie Dormer in the rat women section. She’s conventionally attractive but has big rodent energy.
I never thought my compliment would be trending! My friend of 10yrs is so cute I started calling her “baby hamster” (2015) a few days we met! Never thought the compliment would trickle down to other rodents such as rats and mice!😂😅❤
1:02 I get it 😂 it’s all jokes tho. Nothing serious to be taken offline
NOT A SINGLE BLACK MAN WAS REFERENCED THAT DAY LOL
Thom Yorke is a clear example 😂
I can’t lie I can listen to her talk all day long 😍
15:34 good point!
What category is Bernard the head elf from The Santa Clause..? My childhood crush
The simu and rami take was just wild and wrong
the thumbnail is insane
Oh man if some categories like this existed about women.. Jeezzzusss it would be wild news😂
How the fuck is being called a rodent a compliment 💀
I've been comparing men in my life to the rat from Flushed Away for years, so I'm glad the Internet has finally caught wind! I think this comparison has less to do with the men's striking similarity to the rat, and more to do with the rat's striking similarity to the men. In other words, I think that the specific rat from Flushed Away looks like a lot of humans, but that doesn't mean those humans look like rats, just that one specific rat. No wonder the producer based the rat on Matty Healy's appearance!
If Mike Faist and Josh O’Connor are considered ‘rodent men’ i have no fucking idea what attractive is anymore? How much of a perfectly sculpted Greek-god statue do i have to be to be considered ‘conventionally attractive’? Wtf is that. No idea how talking about someone like that allowed on mainstream media, also that its ok becuz they’re dudes is a bit sad, i mean those newscasters need to preach some equal respect here
There is way to much emphasis on looks in society.You can find people attractive based on all sorts of things, not just looks. Also I think the internet gives a scewed version of reality. I live in a majority white country, am darker skintoned and overweight but with a smaller waist and big bust. A lot of people compliment me from diffrent backgrounds. Not just guys, the kids at the school I work or other women to. I think being being attracted to people can differ from "being attractive" because as cliché as it sounds... It really is about the whole package. I think people are surprised if they find somebody attractive that the media hasn't told they should find attractive. Tbh a lot of the guys you showed didn't seem attractive to me. Kendrick actually looked better then most of them 😅. But i guess in mainstream American media; white and skinny is still right. Thank goodness for the internet. I watch a lot of diffrent people and seeing all that diversity does really help for confidence for me personally. At the end of the day we are all people and everybody wants to be threated nice regardless of how you look. So I like to threat everybody with the same kindness regardless of their look because I hope the would do that for me to.
Love your videos ❤.
Rodent men, I’m chronically online so I get it but I just said it out loud and I felt a lil mean
I can't deal with you rejecting people from being hot rodent boyfriends and the wild comparisons you're making instead 🤣
“caveman hot” took me out 😭😭😭 but i can see it
The fact that there all comparisons made in this discourse, minus Kendrick Lamar, makes it even more absurdly funny.
Im not the “ugliest” but Lmao I literally hate my face and hearing this whole conversation was enlightening but sucked to realize.
as a woman, it does a lot to your self esteem, feeling a bit out of placed and judged for what you do because of the way you look etc, idk I’ve been coping by taking care of my health and staying relatively thin, learning to play with makeup whatever, I love clothes so I dress ok and still it feels like I’m getting better atmost things but I still feel stuck sometimes, I know what I wish I could fix, so if ur a doctor giving away free facial procedures hmu😂🤣🤣