Kino's Journey is a Philosophical Masterpiece

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • After I did my video on Ergo Proxy, where I suggested it MIGHT be the most philosophical anime of all time, I had people suggest alternatives. The number one suggestion was Kino's Journey, and my god... it might be even better.
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  • @francisyorkmorgan5139
    @francisyorkmorgan5139 Рік тому +173

    Finally, someone adequately covers this. This anime deserves more recognition.

    • @Doom_master1122
      @Doom_master1122 Рік тому +8

      He covers it perfectly. I haven't watched this anime in a very long time, Damn near 15+ years and its still burnt into my brain. The anime is an absolute masterpiece.

  • @Alonne1
    @Alonne1 Рік тому +87

    If nietzsche believed that in order to be a free spirit you needed to remove any attachment to any person, place, thing or concept, then that means that you also have to remove any attachment to his philosophy and his ideas, in the end what he told us is to find or create our philosophy, exactly what this anime tries to portrait with the main character

    • @bondrewdthenovel3598
      @bondrewdthenovel3598 11 місяців тому +5

      That reminds me the plot of "Siddhartha" of Hermann Hesse.

    • @kenyon2598
      @kenyon2598 11 місяців тому +4

      And then, what do we base our values on? The path we were born onto, the family tree, culture, spirit, trauma, oh my!

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 6 місяців тому +4

      @@kenyon2598 You choose your own values. This can be things already out there that you identify with, or perhaps even something totally original if you're inventive enough. The point is that they're YOUR values, not ones handed to you.

    • @KanoKingoftheworld
      @KanoKingoftheworld 6 місяців тому

      I think kino in 2017 is so cold,kino in 2003 is not as cold like that,just my opinion

    • @agarrikr2996
      @agarrikr2996 6 місяців тому

      @@ArawnOfAnnwnthat’s a bad and flawed way to view life in my opinion.
      The Nietzche Philosophical Blunder

  • @wonder2002
    @wonder2002 Рік тому +131

    I remember coming across this anime when I was looking for stuff to inspire my writing, I got so engrossed I forgot to take notes the first time around lol

    • @maxbarker8625
      @maxbarker8625 Рік тому +5

      Something I'd recommend if you liked kino's journey is Golden Kamuy (just ignore the weird bear CGI) it's got some what of a similar way of storytelling

    • @wonder2002
      @wonder2002 Рік тому

      @@maxbarker8625 I'll look into it, thanks!

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 Рік тому

      I dont think its the henti thing...
      did get insperation for the henti type genra though....

    • @Defender3701
      @Defender3701 Рік тому

      Max it's me again and of course asking you again to watch garden of sinners 😊

    • @maxbarker8625
      @maxbarker8625 Рік тому

      @@Defender3701 never heard of that, what's it about

  • @buzzwithdrip6347
    @buzzwithdrip6347 Рік тому +49

    Kino's Journey is literally Kino

  • @zygfrydvolt1281
    @zygfrydvolt1281 Рік тому +39

    I knew i wouldn't be disappointed, i love this story to bits yet i never realised how much the structure traps you and makes you internally wrestle with the answers to the questions it explores. I hope you will revisit this one with a different lens in the future. Believe there's more to discover.
    Good video I'll rewatch with what you said in mind. A new perspective.

  • @SeiichirouUta
    @SeiichirouUta Рік тому +32

    There is a wonderful song by Scottish singer Karine Polwart: "Tongue that cannot lie".
    It's about a woman who is incapable of lying and she also always sees the truth behind everything. The imo most touching example she gives, why lies have their good points, is when she can't keep up the illusion of Halloween costumes or the "wonder" of the tooth-fairy or even just simple surprises for the sake of her children who then cry "tears just like butter". And it does not only hurt her children, but also herself. With that the last lines of the song make a lot of sense:
    Let me speak what I will
    And reserve all the rest
    And I'll walk through the world
    Neither blighted nor blessed
    For my sole modest wish now before my demise
    Is to savor the sweetness and the kindness of lies

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 6 місяців тому

      Kant would disagree. Strongly.

  • @kalypsodeepsea982
    @kalypsodeepsea982 Рік тому +95

    The name "free spirit" suggests you do what you feel like you want to do. If Kino would have remained attached to her own rules, would she really be a free spirit? She did nothing wrong.

    • @anachibi
      @anachibi Рік тому +2

      Additionally, it was the intervention of another that allowed Kino to become a free spirit in the first place. Someone has to be that catalyst for people who are trapped.

    • @Brien831
      @Brien831 Рік тому +12

      Its important to note, that a free spirit is NOT someone who detaches themselves from their desire and becomes purely rational. Nietzsche mocks those who deny their desires. He even states that reading too much is poisonous. Its a very big misinterpretation of Nietzsche. Nietzsche advocates for a kind of egotism when it comes to subjective moral ideas.

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic Рік тому +2

      I don't know, the whole thing feels self defeating.

    • @superioropinion7116
      @superioropinion7116 Рік тому

      @@AscendantStoic It isn't if the whole thing was just a vehicle for further understanding

    • @qwmx
      @qwmx 8 місяців тому

      ​​@@Brien831There are things that I mock Nietzsche for, but that one is one which I do the exact same as Nietzsche. There is a reason why buddhism, although not heavily morally bad, In find it mockable, because it tries to award and encourage self denial of what makes one human, emotions and other things.
      Disclaimer: I'm assuming what you said is true, I read about some of Nietzsche's philosophy and remember only a little bit about it.

  • @freddarteagavaldez725
    @freddarteagavaldez725 Рік тому +15

    powerful ending. had me checking twice + my internet connection

  • @garfarf2008
    @garfarf2008 18 годин тому +1

    My dad had me watch this when I was very little, probably around 5-7, pretty young for all the gun violence but it was really awesome to grow up with. This was my first anime and my favorite and I wish it had so much more recognition but that’s just the way it is ig. Sorry I just really really love this show. It was so awesome.

  • @mzraf
    @mzraf Рік тому +10

    After watching it, now it reminds me of mushi-shi, he's also a traveler but he's a doctor or more like healer. I think you should watch couple of episodes of it to realize that it is so similar to kino's journey

    • @loner_kuro6305
      @loner_kuro6305 9 місяців тому

      Its actually the same lone journey, even Anilist recommended Kino's journey after I finished watching Mushishi, but Kino's journey so far is more Human morality delving, but I like both anime, its just hard seeing that its very underrated, I understand it was released many years ago, but its one hell of a good anime!

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 6 місяців тому +2

      Mushi-shi is more comforting, Kino is more questioning.

  • @washipuppy
    @washipuppy Рік тому +8

    I adore Kino's Journey so much. It's so beautiful, so meditative, and so... well, philosophical. Just implementing the few rules that Kino has is such a magnificent engine for exploration.

    • @washipuppy
      @washipuppy Рік тому +1

      On a related note, I watched this after watching Haibane Renmei - I think Haibane may still be my favourite, but Kino's Journey was absolutely the more intellectual and more fascinating show. The idea that both a Lie and a Truth may be as valuable as each other, and the value of choosing that for yourself - knowing what is a lie and what is true. The pain of knowing how you are observed against how you yourself feel, not in the moment but over a long time. The value of understanding without fully embracing, and the futility of being completely separate from all societies - because you will always be human, and always be drawn to form connections. The value of time, of care, of focus, and even of objects well cared for. Whether things are worth doing for their own sake, or only for their utility for others? Amazing.

  • @bastiangugu4083
    @bastiangugu4083 Рік тому +7

    Thank you for this great video. Kino has always been one of my favourites. I find it quite astounding how many anime series contain complex concepts and work trough them. Two series I like very much I would like to mention. I like them for very different reasons. Haibane Renmei was quite thought-provoking for me, as it works with a quite heavy subject in an unusual way. The other one is Aria, which is my go-to series if I need real relaxation and a feel good time. It's not thoughtless at all, but it's calming and quite healing in a way. Sometime one needs something like it.

  • @meimei8718
    @meimei8718 Рік тому +2

    I’ve come across many paradoxes in my own journey. I like Breadsword’s video on paradoxes when he talked about Dr. Strangelove. I recommend it. He said something like riddles are games but paradoxes can hurt you. That’s what I got out of it at least. Your video reminded me of that when you suggested that truth isn’t always healthy for the mind. I have been challenging myself with lots of philosophical questions lately and I appreciate your insight and respect of content and their creators. This is another great video that I can use to, hopefully, better myself. Thank you.

  • @francisco646
    @francisco646 Рік тому +2

    That abrupt ending... lol, you cheeky pup. I love how deep and detailed you can get with the messages creators pour into their works. I'm definitely going to have to give Kino's Journey a watch now!
    If you don't mind me asking, I'd absolutely love if you could include a little game called Astlibra Revision onto your backlog for potential future content. It has a lot of powerful themes regarding fate, the value of souls (is one life worth more than another?), free will, and nihilism. You have such a talent for dissecting and discussing these ideas with passion and pride that I'd absolutely love to hear your take on the game. The creator, Keizo, spent 15+ years working on the project, and his love and care really shows throughout the entire story.
    Regardless, thanks for doing what you do. You have a lot of talent and passion behind your work, and it's always a pleasure to watch your videos.

  • @MohanSupportsYou
    @MohanSupportsYou Рік тому +1

    Ahhhhh~~! I can't keep up with how fast my watch/play list is growing because of you.

  • @Hypothic
    @Hypothic 2 місяці тому

    This really cool, happy I stumbled on this today, very inspirational for my current VR project. Thanks for making this.

  • @ghostgate82
    @ghostgate82 Рік тому +3

    It’s not about whether stress is better than peace, or vise versa, it is about what ratio we experience these dualistic concepts in. Same with truth vs non-truth. Individual personalities are like engines or filters that operate on these dualistic concepts, and some personalities operate at peak efficiency with one, and some with the other. Again, it’s all about ratios. Think about the ratios (or grades) of gasoline. Some cars require certain ratios of ingredients over others.
    Good for thought.

  • @SearcherKat
    @SearcherKat Рік тому +2

    May we all see the true blue sky

  • @twopintsofmilk
    @twopintsofmilk Рік тому

    I'm so happy you're covering this

  • @Kinochai
    @Kinochai 7 місяців тому

    Oh man! So excited to watch! Getting such good coverage on my favorite anime is great!

  • @Indi_51
    @Indi_51 Рік тому

    oh dang, that ending scared me dude! Great video as always!

  • @lornbaker1083
    @lornbaker1083 4 місяці тому +1

    This anime reminded me deeply about cowboy bebop and space dandy. In the idea that travelers are exploring different cultures and different planets.And trying to make sense of it. Because they had no concepts of moral foundation other than what drifting threads that they originally had before their old lives died If at least in the case of the crew of the bebop. In the case.
    Of the crew of the little aloha It's more so that they all didn't like the lives that they grew up in and they were forced to have so they decided to try and seek out to find something different.And the more they travel, the more to learn different kinds of moralities and ideals and concepts that they were never.Originally exposed to in their original lives

  • @MrRaui
    @MrRaui Рік тому +6

    This was always one of my favorite shows.

  • @JuliusCaesar103
    @JuliusCaesar103 11 місяців тому +3

    Kino is easily in my top 5 anime ever. Such an underrated masterpiece.

  • @siekensou77
    @siekensou77 Рік тому +1

    there's so many philosophical discussions to be had from this novel/anime

  • @the1fortheages
    @the1fortheages Рік тому +5

    In all honesty, I watched every episode of Kino's Journey... I knew I liked it, because if I didn't, I'd stop mid season or even mid episode... and as a 30+ old man, I didnt realize any of this thought provocation happening. But, at the time, and still now, I watch anime as a form of space filling entertainment, so I suppose everything outside of the mundane will likely go right over my head. Perhaps a rewatch is in order...

  • @aidan8041
    @aidan8041 Рік тому +2

    Max Derrat + kino no tabi = never clicked a video so fast

  • @HeaRtllesSs
    @HeaRtllesSs Рік тому

    whoever made the decision to add the deus ex ost at the background is a god give him a bonus!
    I saw kinos journey 10+ years ago and i remember it being very thought provoking and profound
    I will certainly do a rewatch at some point

  • @adahnliegl740
    @adahnliegl740 Рік тому +2

    Regarding the Post-work/stress country
    The piece of media that imho deals with that problem in the most interesting and harrowing way is „player piano“ by Kurt Vonnegut.
    It also depicts an almost fully automatized world with only a few select engineers and other education heavy professions forced/allowed to work. Themes in the book include loss of meaning for now obsolete workers, rearrangement of family roles, establishment of a de facto class system and many more. All of it presented with the meek acceptance distinguishing Vonneguts writing altogether. Its a depressing read of the classic „be careful what you wish for“ trope - and shows that you cannot just excise a cultural feature (meaning through creation/work) without offering an alternative.

  • @FlexxibleFree
    @FlexxibleFree Рік тому +1

    Concepts of love and attachment are so strong they define huge parts of world religions.

  • @PseudoWounds
    @PseudoWounds Рік тому +5

    Very glad you watched this show, one of my favorites! if you haven't already, you might enjoy Boogiepop Phantom and Mermaid Forest, both very great, specially Boogiepop

  • @micahyamanaka3383
    @micahyamanaka3383 Рік тому +11

    Thanks for the content Max, I have a game recommendation for you: Fear & Hunger and Fear & Hunger 2: Termina. I am very eager to see you play Termina due to it referencing Carl Jung’s Aion. Both games take inspiration from Berserk, Silent Hill, and the Dark Souls series. They are also known to be difficult games, some would even say cruel games but don’t let that discourage you. Although these games may look like JRPG’s, they play more like a survival horror or immersive sun games. Please check it out!

    • @fishfingers4548
      @fishfingers4548 Рік тому

      Your first comment doesn't get enough love sir. 👍

    • @jobba3632
      @jobba3632 Рік тому

      Good job making your recommendation more concise ! This is much more inviting.

  • @Moircuus
    @Moircuus 6 місяців тому +3

    Elaine the Wandering Witch, while not early as good, imo, it does strive to achieve similar goals in a very similar format to Kino's Journey

  • @nubius
    @nubius Рік тому

    I'm glad you got a chance to go on this journey ^_^

  • @benlavis3006
    @benlavis3006 Рік тому

    Kind of love listening to you talk, great video loved getting a look at another anime ill never have the time to watch myself. 👍

  • @Nostalgik
    @Nostalgik Рік тому

    Beautifully put together ❤

  • @Epsilon-01
    @Epsilon-01 Рік тому +3

    This was very interesting, informative and insightful, I feel that much of what Nietzsche wrote about correlates to how I do things(despite never having read Beyond Good and Evil), analyze a philosophy and incorporate the things that have the most merit while "doing away" with those that aren't immediately useful, but not disregarding them entirely. I also agree that we shouldn't hold attachment on certain things, the truth is one thing I value along with honor and mercy, but I will disregard those things if they are inconvenient at the time. The same thing with my own spiritual beliefs and my morality, attachments are valuable, but not to the point of dogma in my opinion, logic is a tool, not a way of life. Nietzsche was one of my inspirations for my philosophy, a few others being Camus and Lao Tzu, and they've help me look at life through a lense different to most. If I am to become a monster for the sake of knowledge, so be it, but I will never sacrifice my humanity in the process. In this world, there are only men and monsters, and sometimes they are one and the same.

  • @maxbarker8625
    @maxbarker8625 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for listening to my suggestion from the discord, I had no idea how you'd make a video on kino due to it's nature you still managed to do it though

    • @maxderrat
      @maxderrat  Рік тому +4

      I try my best to listen to people's suggestions. :)

    • @KermRiv
      @KermRiv Рік тому

      ​@@maxderrathell yeah! Quick dumb question. What was your favorite song from the Nier games?

    • @maxbarker8625
      @maxbarker8625 Рік тому

      @@maxderrat my other suggestion was boogiepop phantom the early 2000s version it's kinda like lain but weirder

    • @maxbarker8625
      @maxbarker8625 Рік тому

      @@maxderrat also if you're willing to do manga reviews and want philosophical manga read Homonculus it goes a lot into introspection and existentialism , the basic plot is a man has a hole drilled into his skull what somehow awakes psychic powers what allow him to see People homoncli IE what they focus on and there actual identity within themselves, if that sounds like something you'd be interested in check it out

    • @johnmanole4779
      @johnmanole4779 10 місяців тому

      ​@@maxderrat do you have any recommendations for a noob delving into Nietzsche's philosophy?

  • @SaltpeterTaffy
    @SaltpeterTaffy 18 днів тому

    The freest one can be necessarily permits the violation of one's own rules. The paradox in Nietzche's free spirit is that the free spirit is not above the conscious adoption of dogma, because the categorical rejection of dogma is itself dogmatic. The notion of thinking outside the box is itself within the box. The boundary of the box is a dogma. The free spirit expands the box so that all is within.

  • @andrewkawam2603
    @andrewkawam2603 8 місяців тому

    @maxderrat I'll definitely have to check this show out. Always love hearing your thoughts on anime, especially as an Aspie and bug anime fan myself!!! My picks/recommendations for deeply philosophical anime based on everything said here would be.....
    Maquia: When the Promised Flower Blooms (2018) - this one made me cry the first time I watched it and has continued to do so even in memory since. In some ways, I feel like the way it tackles neurodiversity and the larger implications of loneliness is something that rings amazingly true to my own experience on a metaphorical level, but also gives such a powerful perspective on how to deal with trauma almost like the Netflix show The OA does. Also just criminally underrated in general.
    A Tree of Palme (2001) - tackles a surprisingly rich blend of theology, existential dread, epistemology, ontology, and psychology with some of the best world-building I've ever seen in any movie period.
    Princess Mononoke (1997) - of all of Miyazaki's movies, this one along with 'Spirited Away' and 'Howl's Moving Castle' feel the most philosophically and morally complex, especially in terms of how we find reasons within and around us to keep living despite the bleakness of the world.
    The Violet Evergarden franchise also does an amazing job at showing what the struggle to learn emotions is like from a neurodiverse perspective (also made me cry cause of how it reminded me of my experiences).
    Colorful (2010) - another criminally underrated one that looks in such an uncompromising but moving way at how to find hope in the small details of life.

  • @kris1123259
    @kris1123259 Рік тому

    I'll watch this series next. Great video as usual

  • @bernardheathaway9146
    @bernardheathaway9146 6 місяців тому

    I loved this anime!! I'm glad people talk about it with such passion and depth!

  • @mkdesu
    @mkdesu Рік тому

    Kino's Journey just suddenly went back to my mind again after watching a mountain bike redbull guy do some tricks, it played out like an adventure, that feeling of adventure, and I got chills when I considered that feeling. And how much I wanted to adore it, to take hold of that feeling and be a free soul. Sort of an epiphany? Perhaps.

  • @gregorydeacur3622
    @gregorydeacur3622 8 місяців тому +1

    I first saw this anime when I was about 20 years old, just a year or two after it came out. At that time I would have said it was my favorite anime ever or at least one of my top three. It felt very unique. I loved the music and presentation. And I loved the way the stories often ended and turned, showing one extreme and then the other. I also liked that the standalone stories were loosely connected and that there was some back story to kino herself.
    But even then there were several episodes that I thought "tried a little too hard."
    Now I wouldn't put kino's journey 2003 in my top 10. I still very much like the show,
    but it's weaknesses feel all the more pronounced as I've hit my mid-thirties... Too much of it just smacks of a fourteen year old who just discovered arguing and debating and keeps saying " but is it really? Is it REALLY? "
    For example the episode where kino finds the three stranded travelers. Fantastic music, Good premise, Great directing. The last scene where she Is being held up but manages to escape had such a weird, unreal feel to it.
    But I felt the last few echo-y words were cringe, "deep" and unnecessary. The episode also seemed to be implying that animal life may be worth about as much as human life, a concept I find childish and silly.
    I love that the show tried to be thoughtful and it Mostly worked for me on that level. It was the philosophical stuff that you're describing here that actually irritated me more.
    I am glad to see the show getting some attention either way.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi Рік тому +3

    Informative as always.

  • @perversemite519
    @perversemite519 Рік тому

    Awesome video as always ❤❤

  • @zeliardforty-two4692
    @zeliardforty-two4692 Рік тому +2

    I definitely have to check this show out! The past few years has been … challenging for me. I’ve had to uproot myself and question my personal beliefs. I think this is why fate, of all things, lead me to this channel. At one point in my life I had a someone I once held in high regard constantly tell me I’m wrong for any opinion different from their own. It wasn’t until I realized people are aloud to have different in opinions from other did I realize my own opinions were okay. As my Aunt has said “if we all acted the same and liked the same things, the world would be a dull place”

    • @JesusOnHeroin
      @JesusOnHeroin Рік тому

      where are you going to watch it tho?

    • @zeliardforty-two4692
      @zeliardforty-two4692 Рік тому +1

      @@JesusOnHeroin odd question but fair. Not sure but I figured it would be a good addition to my library. Perhaps find a DVD or Blueray somewhere. Although we’ll looking around it does have a manga paperback version. Not sure if he mentioned that but it does come in that format

    • @JesusOnHeroin
      @JesusOnHeroin Рік тому +1

      @@zeliardforty-two4692 😘😘

    • @JesusOnHeroin
      @JesusOnHeroin Рік тому

      @@zeliardforty-two4692 so there is no way to watch it online? i searched everywhere, but could not find it.

    • @zeliardforty-two4692
      @zeliardforty-two4692 Рік тому +1

      @@JesusOnHeroin not that I could see. I thought he mentioned a link to somewhere but didn’t see it

  • @EnordAreven
    @EnordAreven Рік тому +2

    *says they're going to end things abruptly and does so*
    Me:
    "my word, twas a lil abrupt wasn't it?"

  • @rendlessism
    @rendlessism 11 місяців тому +1

    There are lots of things that can be taken from Kino's Journey. But we only take what we know and what we want.

  • @Chris3s
    @Chris3s Рік тому +1

    I am positively suprised that there is something called "free spirit" and actually I would largely see that myself (maybe not fully, but I don't attach myself to my 2 nationalities or the country I live in, any religious or political believe or established social norms and laws).

  • @KrystalVF-hk2gx
    @KrystalVF-hk2gx 11 місяців тому +1

    Finally someone talking about this anime / series, it's so good 😭 and so interesting. I love it

  • @eiwhaz-tina6528
    @eiwhaz-tina6528 Рік тому

    Finally appreciation for this underrated masterpiece

  • @blackfirya
    @blackfirya Рік тому +1

    Truth is always the correct answer because knowing the truth is not the problem. The problem is what you do/ how you react to the truth.
    As an example, if you told me Art was pointless and that was the truth, it would not matter to me because I love art regardless of if its pointless, I would do still do it.

  • @steambub
    @steambub 11 місяців тому

    You anime I would suggest to watch is Sunday Without God. I haven't watched it in years, but it was an anime that stuck in the back of my mind because of the how it's concepts flew over my head.

  • @invictus_3661
    @invictus_3661 Рік тому

    Really good video Max! I know you mentioned Ghost in the Shell but have you seen Patlabor 2?

  • @taiwanisacountry
    @taiwanisacountry 10 місяців тому +1

    I see myself as a free spirit, not by his moronic ideals, but by my owns. A life without attachments is not a life it is simple existing. And existence is enough for some, but not for me. If I can not leave a trace of positiveness on the world, then I see my existence as meaningless, almost like I was never here except as a leech to such resources from a world i contributed nothing towards.

  • @hablahei1
    @hablahei1 2 місяці тому

    One of my all time favorite stories

  • @spaceklwn4196
    @spaceklwn4196 Рік тому

    This is my all time favorite anime and manga it’s just so so sooo underrated that not a lot of people know that much about it.

  • @volcano3759
    @volcano3759 Рік тому +1

    this anime deserves more attention

  • @GameBoyPL1991
    @GameBoyPL1991 Рік тому +3

    I find that all "if you wouldn't need to work to survive you would become very bored" thing to be utterly dumb take, especially when the bored people defaults to dumb office work in open space environment.
    There's always a ton of fun stuff to do. Learn how to play instruments or sing or paint, make a garden, read a book, carve wooden figurines, open a small cafe where you will serve only as many cups of coffee as you want and chat with local clients, get a bicyle and tent and go for year long camping trip around your country, become a race driver, assemble or join a team of your favourite sport and play against your neighbours, take care of animals, study your favourite subject, make a game etc.
    Basically any of this activity is something you could work on through your entire lifetime if you wanted to and yet you're gonna tell me people would choose sitting in office for 8 hours to work on excel sheets? I just don't understand it at all.
    If you want stress go bungee jumping every week or something.

    • @jobba3632
      @jobba3632 Рік тому +1

      True.
      I can see how a life without struggle would be tough, because you wouldn't find meaning in it.
      That said, struggling to confront your opinion with those you read in a book, struggling to learn how to play instruments, etc, would all qualify.
      So yes, office work being an irreplaceable source of meaning sounds dumb to me. Maybe being japanese means they just can't imagine life without work, with how important it is in their life.

  • @Owl_of_Books
    @Owl_of_Books Рік тому

    Might watch this movie this week, because the explanation earlier in the video, about society essentially living a perfect life without stress, only to find purpose, in doing meaningless tasks, as a way find meaning..... This strangely reflects my current job, it's practically perfect, the people are great, the culture is great, and whole company is great but..... The tasks are literally repetitive, and feels like it's nothing more, than just something to keep us busy, essentially give us meaning.... And sometimes, it just feels like, we're literally in a loop, with no variety of tasks, but just to keep us busy, much like what's explained in this video 😳

  • @c3cxla
    @c3cxla Рік тому +5

    Basically every "philosophical" anime uses Nietzsche, so it's not much of a coincidence.

  • @irlgoron
    @irlgoron 3 місяці тому

    dropped this video as soon as your disclaimer came in, watched through all of kino's journey and picked this video back up again. This anime has been particularly.. poignant. It definitely made me ponder on the nature of ethics & philosophy and my relationship with either one. Insanely introspective work.

  • @F4celessArt
    @F4celessArt Рік тому

    Saw a remake of this series a few years ago. While it did not strike me as deeply philosophical, most due to me not really looking at anime as much more than screen-filling entertainment, I can definitely see how the show implies all these subjects. When I noticed this vid in my feed I knew I would discover something I failed to spot myself.

  • @GasDude1011
    @GasDude1011 Рік тому

    Everytime max makes a video on an anime he gets pulled further down the rabbit hole from the comment recommendations 😂

  • @haganakichywara
    @haganakichywara Рік тому

    Finally some attention for my fav anime series

  • @brandonontama2415
    @brandonontama2415 Рік тому

    Awesome video. If you want more philosophical anime I recommend Deccou Coil.

  • @skonataofawakening
    @skonataofawakening Рік тому

    I'd love to hear you talk about Shinseaki Yori some day. The novel is very wonderful as well

  • @FredrickConception
    @FredrickConception 3 місяці тому

    The 2000's anime movie for Kino that has more of her backstory with her master is fantastic too! You should have included it in this video and not just the 13 ep anime!

  • @RANDOM-wb8sm
    @RANDOM-wb8sm Рік тому

    "The girl from the other side" Can you scratch the surface of soul ?

  • @CYI3ERPUNK
    @CYI3ERPUNK Рік тому

    ofc the bike is named hermes XD , beautiful

  • @LanceMarino
    @LanceMarino Рік тому

    Love the ending of your video.

  • @HowardAltEisen
    @HowardAltEisen 2 місяці тому

    What a fucking ending
    What a fucking video
    What a good fucking show, I wish more people watched/read it

  • @KermRiv
    @KermRiv Рік тому +1

    Definitely going to give this a watch though

  • @elbertignacio831
    @elbertignacio831 9 місяців тому

    When I first watched 2003 Kino's Journey back then, I was still in grade school. I didn't realize that it was this deep...
    Can you also recommend watching the newer version? I've only watched clips of it but I haven't fully committed to it yet.

  • @EthanJacob-er5jk
    @EthanJacob-er5jk 12 днів тому

    It's like asking if a poor person steals for the intention of living and feeding their relatives is it a bad or good action?

  • @SilverDemon456
    @SilverDemon456 Рік тому

    I momentarily forgot I was watching an anime analysis in the beginning.

  • @At0m5k
    @At0m5k Рік тому

    glad you got as much out of kino as i did

  • @alephnole7009
    @alephnole7009 Рік тому

    I love this show so much. Both the 2003 and remake.

  • @jarrodvoo5389
    @jarrodvoo5389 Рік тому

    Did you forger the link in the description box or did UA-cam not allow it?

  • @flazay_da
    @flazay_da Рік тому

    Yay a video on a fav hidden gem!

  • @jacquesvanonselen7189
    @jacquesvanonselen7189 Рік тому

    Max am i allowed to clip your vids and post it on tiktok? Pointing them to your channel? Your way of looking at things needs to be shared.

  • @AXPena
    @AXPena Рік тому

    I think the link to watch Kino's Journey is missing from the description box.

  • @LunaStarFire
    @LunaStarFire 4 місяці тому

    I think the idea of the free thinker is both the idea of seeing without inherent bias while being able to see into the abyss while having the ability to neither change or be changed by it.
    Morality is a spectrum, and the right answer to philosophy is just as much a spectrum as life is a spectrum.
    To have the heart to understand while the resilience to not be swayed
    To have the mind to comprehend while the focus to not be lost.
    Our minds are great at finding what we seek, and its for that that the longer you stare at the abyss the abyss appears to stare back, its because all paths of discovery will inherit the desire to compare to ones self and if you dig hard enough you will find that which was never there.
    Life is but a walking shadow, a poor player that trusts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
    ...
    We find meaning beyond truth, yet truth itself defies meaning, it is a scientist chasing an answer yet dreading to find it in fear of having nothing further to chase.

  • @orcwarchiefreviews
    @orcwarchiefreviews Рік тому

    This is surprisingly a good anime it is kind of funny that the Creator ended up making gun gal girl absolutely enjoyed happy you enjoyed

  • @lostdeeply397
    @lostdeeply397 Рік тому +1

    at the first 3 minute you were describing twitter and social media

  • @Kris_not_Chris
    @Kris_not_Chris Рік тому +1

    I think framing the question of the value of truth and comforting lie in terms of examples where it triggers inevitable existential crisis is purposely obfuscating the actual issue. One of agency. It may break the Rail workers to know their meaning-making system is ultimately built on pointless lies, But it's not Kino's (or our) place to say what is good for other human beings. Persons and persons, full actors who deserve autonomy and agency of their own selves. To say "the lie is better for them" or "the truth is better for them" both imply that the philosopher knows better what they should want or have. Ultimately I think Autonomy/agency says you must tell them the truth, but not because truth is superior to lies, but because truth, or in this case understanding reality is the only way for people to have autonomy over their lives. The fully automated country is very stupid as a philosophical toy model, because if those people really liberated themselves from labor, the things they would do to alleviate boredom or make meaning would be things they chose via their own autonomy. The capitalist/industrial rote labor they end up doing suggests this is not the case, but rather that their liberation was incomplete, wage-labor became ingrained in their culture and has yet to be replaced by true autonomy. So the framing of stress vs. peace misunderstands the actual problem implied by their social organiztion. What they lack isn't stress, stimulation, or meaning alone. what they lack is the liberatory truth that they can make their own meaning. As a Nietzschean work of philosophy this inadequacy is to be expected. Nietzsche's Free Thinker/Ubermensch is ultimately based on a belief that some people are smarter or more capable of understanding or seeking truth than others and should lead them. We can't expect it to understand and truly contend with the absurd. However, we have access to this knowledge, and surely we don't have to kowtow to this old world Great Man nonsense anymore. To give a bit of absurdist reading to the Rail workers and/or the old man with his existential crisis you have a perfect example of contending with the absurd. The old man learns the truth that he has lived a meaningless life and falls into despair/nihilism. This is bad, but it is his choice. The answer is not to allow the rail workers to labor in ignorance, but to give them the same opportunity to contend with the absurd and perhaps embrace it.

  • @andyf3269
    @andyf3269 Рік тому

    That ending came straight from the sopranos hahaha

  • @matten_zero
    @matten_zero Рік тому

    I'm taking credit for this one. I know I was probably the only one who recommended this anime to him 😤😅.

  • @jobba3632
    @jobba3632 Рік тому

    I was looking forward to this video.
    It's pretty strange to me that you'd spend minutes talking about truth and untruth, without any mention to the episode of the kingdom of truth. From what i remember, it argues exactly what your Nietsche quotes say.

  • @eiwhaz-tina6528
    @eiwhaz-tina6528 Рік тому

    The replicant ost it's deeply appreciated

  • @sombraarthur
    @sombraarthur Рік тому

    Max, where is the link to watch the movie? Nevermind, it is out there.
    Thinking about the subject, I've learnt that there from me to my son, I've done two things that is part and parcel of our relationship: The cold, hard truths that there are no wasy to soften it, hide it, or make it more "palatable", and the things that can be broken into smaller parts and mde it easier for his (yet) undeveloped mind to realise and conceptualize. And sometimes, putting the cold, hard truth in front of him causes more pain than a calculated lie, made to make this fact easier to swallow, or even more acceptable as a concept for him to think about it.
    Still, I constantly wonder if I am missing something, or perhaps subconsciously leaving something "behind", which could be important for HIM, but not for me. As I can't be inside his head, I find this the most difficult task.
    Is my influence detrimental to his development? Or does it helps? Should I simply step back and let his mind go through all of this thought process and let him find out his own conclusions? Or should I fill him with the basics and let him grow up from there?
    Still, until I cannot find the answer for this conundrum, I keep supporting him in any and all ways I deem needed, important, or nice to do.

  • @Sanity_In
    @Sanity_In 4 місяці тому

    To discover that some guy predicted that I would exist is quite interesting. He must've been a very interesting person.
    Free Spirit, being one does not mean detaching from all and everything. It means discovering what you in your natural state desire. It means learning to understand every perspective, whether good or bad. Whether atheist or religious, it is important to understand cause and effect. We are all born free spirits, then through the tempering of life, we are bound to ideas and beliefs not of our own will. The objective is to rewind every perspective and find what deviated us from our natural state. As much as you dislike the heinous criminal, they are nothing more than the result of a series of cause and effect. What does that mean?
    Consider this.
    What country were you born in? What laws does it have? What people were around you? Mathematically, at birth, you have a specific number of paths you will be able to take.
    To delve further. If you were born in a frozen wasteland stranded from the rest of the world. Would anyone there possibly be capable of developing a culture and lifestyle revolving around living in a scorching desert? No. Impossible. You cannot live like you are in the desert if the concept of a desert has never and will never exist for you.
    To discover who you are, consider how much of you is really you.

  • @DullUsername
    @DullUsername Рік тому

    There was a another season of this not too long ago that I watched, didn't know it had a predecessor.

  • @DarksteelHeart
    @DarksteelHeart Рік тому

    I may be blinded by my desire to be one, but I believe I am a free spirit. I have my own religious belief that combines elements of several religions. The idea of reincarnation from Buddhism, the idea that we are evil by nature and we must strain against that evil nature from Christianity, and I take evidence from science: we are all made of the same stuff: quarks in physical science, vibrating energy in quantum physics, etc.
    I call it "Living World" we are all connected through some form of energy, matter, or spirit. Indifferent to what each individual calls that energy, matter, or spirit.
    Much love, Max. You're one of my favorite creators on this platform.
    Stay awesome, stay yellow.

  • @JesusOnHeroin
    @JesusOnHeroin Рік тому

    where can I watch this anime? any help? talking about the 2003 version, the original.

  • @Pneubeteube
    @Pneubeteube Рік тому +1

    I don't want peace! I want problems, allways!

  • @minespatch
    @minespatch Рік тому

    You should cover Girls last tour in the future.

  • @ggez3109
    @ggez3109 Рік тому

    I have a question. Someone who has already traveled and seen the contrast of so many cultures, always keeping an open mind, to make up his own moral values, could still be considered a free spirit? Or has he become a false philosopher? I mean since your journey has stopped you could actually start limiting your worldview and take your ideas as your ultimate truth right? So maybe what I mean to ask is: to be a free spirit is to keep observing without actually coming up with your own conclusion after so many experiences? I have the attention spam of a fly and maybe max actually answers this in the video but I totally missed it😅. If someone is well versed in these concepts I would appreciate to know the answer. Thanks in advance.

  • @johnathansfacew8528
    @johnathansfacew8528 Рік тому +1

    Truth and untruth. I think truth is always more valuable even when you might think it's detrimental because it gives clarity to the situation and will help you hold an answer for your problem. Untruths aren't always bad but they will always exist to misguide you and conceal a proper answer to your problem and when they do break down can be just as or even more devastating than the truth. As for free spirits I believe they are those who decided what they want to do for themselves.

    • @miguelatkinson
      @miguelatkinson Рік тому

      I don't know there are times where untruth is useful and truth is dangerous like let's say some guy came to your home looking for your brother with a gun in his hand saying he was about to kill him would you tell the truth putting your brothers life at risk or lie to keep your brother save most people would say yes to the first option If stuck in such a condrum

    • @johnathansfacew8528
      @johnathansfacew8528 Рік тому

      @miguelatkinson The truth of that situation was still more valuable. That was the man wanting to kill your brother which is the apparent truth of the situation which is needed to come to the conclusion of an untruth to trick him. The untruth is of no use to the man and is there to misguide and conceal the answer to what he was looking for.

    • @miguelatkinson
      @miguelatkinson Рік тому

      @@johnathansfacew8528 so your saying basically to just tell him the truth and have his brother killed you know there something called a white lie and for a reason but maybe I misinterpreted what you said so correct if I am wrong

    • @jobba3632
      @jobba3632 Рік тому

      ​@@johnathansfacew8528 So you're saying truth is better because it brings you knowledge, clarity.
      There's several episodes of the anime that would help you deepen your reflexion. If you don't feel like watching it, or have already done so, please read the following.
      **********************SPOILERS**********************
      In one country, people have achieved telepathy, and most have embraced it.
      With it, every single thought, every judgement all telepaths would make, would be relayed to other telepaths close by whether or not they meant to share it.
      Since not expressing your thoughts is obfuscating truth, can you see the value of withholding truth ?
      This idea, and how it is explored in the episode, so strongly show how truth isn't always desirable that i do not believe you could emerge from it placing the same value on truth.
      If you have some counterarguments, i'd love to hear them.
      **************************END*************************
      ----
      Also, in your answer to the other user's question, i don't think you can say whether or not truth has value without determining to whom it is valuable.
      The user argues that untruth is more valuable to "you" (the brother), while you argue truth is valuable to the one being lied to (the murderer). These two statements don't contradict each other.
      Unless you decide that the murderer's knowledge is more valuable than the untruth that saves the brother's life, it fails to demonstrate how truth is more valuable.

    • @johnathansfacew8528
      @johnathansfacew8528 Рік тому

      @@jobba3632 I can see the value of withholding truth and agree it can be necessary to use to protect something such as privacy but I still stand by saying the truth will always be more valuable. My counterargument is without a truth how can you make informed decisions and realise the weight of any of them? Mistruth can be useful but it only is if you know it will be such as lying to protect somebody from harm. To even use the mistruth to be something positive you needed the truth to realise it to be so.
      I think you misunderstood what I meant in my response to the previous question. I was saying the apparent truth, which was the mans threat by way of him coming to the house armed and telling you he wanted to kill your brother was more important than you using a mistruth to deceive him. Him coming to the house armed and telling you he wanted to kill your brother gave you a truth which was then used to come to a decision to deceive him with a mistruth, without that truth you wouldn't have come to the conclusion to trick him.