The Chinese will abolish wet markets when Americans abolish their guns, which is saying it's not going to happen. The flip side of the origin question is what to do with the information, assuming scientists can agree, if ever, on a definitive answer?
I'm almost done with the book. The amount of research that the authors had to do is impressive. The irresponsible statements made by multiple scientists and the complete lack of Chinese cooperation to genuinely find out the origin of this pandemic is very concerning. The authors get deep into why people would think that there was a lab leak and why it matters. I recommend the audiobook if you don't read quickly and if you don't have a background in biology. It's a very dense book. Lots of information packed into each page.
Summing up towards the end, Matt Ridley makes quite a strong argument for the virus having escaped from the lab. And the destructive culture of secrecy prevalent in communist China. Listening to the whole podcast is informative and at the same time quite worrying that an uncaring system may very well be responsible for millions of lives lost and untold grief and misery unnecessarily heaped upon the world. China's communist overlords still hellbent on stamping any and all progress at all cost.
thanks for this interview shermer. i read the book and found it quite interesting, objective and fair. your interview is a wonderful follow up, and is much appreciated
1) The Book Viral should be required reading by everyone. For sure, it should be required reading for everyone in the research domain. 2) Are you aware or had you seen this NIH GOF Conference in 2013? ua-cam.com/video/BACqqgRpktA/v-deo.html 3) Why would NIH fund research at a lab that they knew or should have known was not ready to operate? They knew that the French were not involved. I am assuming to keep an eye on them? The first GOF research break throughs that were funded by NIH was under close observation and verification before the research began. As pointed out in the book.
" in the year 1348 after the fruitful incarnation of the Son of God, that most beautiful of the Italian cities, noble Florence, was attacked by deadly plague. It started in the East either through the influence of the heavenly bodies or because God's just anger with our wicked deeds sent it as a punishment to mortal men; and in a few years killed an innumerable quantity of people........" So begins Tales from The Decameron. Has there ever been a plague that didn't come from the East? Honest question.
The Wuhan Institution was performing gain of function research on modified bat-based corona virus and it leaked from a lab. The Chinese government then lied to save face.
@Jay Mendoza I don't know what you mean they made it because virus's are found in nature and this one is no different, second why would they intentionally release it when it affected the whole world including themselves?
absolutely love and deeply respect Michael's perspective and insight, glad to have discovered him on this youtube platform
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A great conversation between two very important modern minds
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The Chinese will abolish wet markets when Americans abolish their guns, which is saying it's not going to happen. The flip side of the origin question is what to do with the information, assuming scientists can agree, if ever, on a definitive answer?
I'm almost done with the book. The amount of research that the authors had to do is impressive. The irresponsible statements made by multiple scientists and the complete lack of Chinese cooperation to genuinely find out the origin of this pandemic is very concerning. The authors get deep into why people would think that there was a lab leak and why it matters. I recommend the audiobook if you don't read quickly and if you don't have a background in biology. It's a very dense book. Lots of information packed into each page.
Summing up towards the end, Matt Ridley makes quite a strong argument for the virus having escaped from the lab. And the destructive culture of secrecy prevalent in communist China.
Listening to the whole podcast is informative and at the same time quite worrying that an uncaring system may very well be responsible for millions of lives lost and untold grief and misery unnecessarily heaped upon the world. China's communist overlords still hellbent on stamping any and all progress at all cost.
thanks for this interview shermer. i read the book and found it quite interesting, objective and fair. your interview is a wonderful follow up, and is much appreciated
1) The Book Viral should be required reading by everyone. For sure, it should be required reading for everyone in the research domain.
2) Are you aware or had you seen this NIH GOF Conference in 2013?
ua-cam.com/video/BACqqgRpktA/v-deo.html
3) Why would NIH fund research at a lab that they knew or should have known was not ready to operate? They knew that the French were not involved. I am assuming to keep an eye on them? The first GOF research break throughs that were funded by NIH was under close observation and verification before the research began. As pointed out in the book.
*judging from twiter today; youd think it started in an unmasked 4y old mid a plane flight.* cant rule anything else i guess. -JC
39:00 nice. that is what it says. a lota ppl miss that. who is this guy, maybe ill read this bk. pretty good. -JC
Nice video
Another great discussion..will probably grab the book too...thanks for sharing!
Yeah i enjoyed this!:) great conversation, will read your book for sure.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck,…then it’s probably a wet market.
I am so ready for Michael to get back in front of people.
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Leaky labbys make hurting flabbys
Terrorists want to be blamed, so he makes no sense on that point.
Yes I thought the same thing re that point.
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" in the year 1348 after the fruitful incarnation of the Son of God, that most beautiful of the Italian cities, noble Florence, was attacked by deadly plague.
It started in the East either through the influence of the heavenly bodies or because God's just anger with our wicked deeds sent it as a punishment to mortal men; and in a few years killed an innumerable quantity of people........"
So begins Tales from The Decameron.
Has there ever been a plague that didn't come from the East?
Honest question.
There is evidence the spanish flu began in Toronto or usa midwest.
Come on 51/49? Schemer lost
It came from an animal and was first detected in humans in China.
The Wuhan Institution was performing gain of function research on modified bat-based corona virus and it leaked from a lab. The Chinese government then lied to save face.
very diplomatic lmao ....
@Cardi-C if you genuinely think that, I hope you're ready for world war 3
@Jay Mendoza I don't know what you mean they made it because virus's are found in nature and this one is no different, second why would they intentionally release it when it affected the whole world including themselves?
@@Mastermindyoung14 Possibly.
More smaller is not a thing.
Don't ask. Don't tell. Isn't that the universal policy of Western Liberal Democracies?
No.