Hope you learned a new trait or two and whether some are good or bad! ☃ All traits are ranked 'vertically' because it's too much effort and not worth it to rank them 'with-in' the tiers, unless specifically mentioned.
Slightly beneficial Trait: "FALSE HOPE! E TIER!" Traits vulnerable to supernatural attacks and the nastiest encounters in the game? "Is fine man, those are totally recoverable." (good video tho)
On Glorious quickness, I think it actually offers a lot of utility when it goes alongside Berserk. Having just 1 more action point opens a lot of options. In many situations, the 1AP will let you reposition 1 hex further. You can also do whacky things like quickhands from a two-hander into a one-hander for two extra hits, or vice-versa. I feel it's nice and unique for this brother specifically that offers interesting builds and tactical options you don't usually get. It's definitely a build-around trait instead of a straight benefit though.
Yeah, I did mention the interaction/reliance on berserk. I guess it could just give you that extra tile of movement and that could be a useful 'chase-down' or 'reposition' utility in combat. But I think that's a little less valuable than berserk itself. Still, you do have a point to give more value to Glorius Quickness and it's maybe a C-tier in the best situations. (still super situational, and I'd rather have the other C-tiers tbh as they're more reliable, but still, as you say, maybe some tactical options from that to make a slight difference) :)
Found your channel today after started playing battle brotheres yesterday (i watched the trader and spanish inquisition videos they were gab). Just finished watching your intro to legends mod guide and was looking for more guides when this pops up! Fantasric timing
Great video my dude, been recently learning Legends and PTR at the same time and it's always good to see an over view of some of what is in front of me. Well spoken and concise ;)
Glad to hear the vid is able to help you learning the game and the mods :) (and that you enjoyed it!) Diving into legends + ptr is quite complex and hope you're having fun with it all!
A perks-tier-list is on the to-do list for sure (but that one is gonna be a lot bigger haha, so many perks) The mod is rather complex and overwhelming for sure so I'd definitely feel it'd be a helpful vid too :) (glad to hear you found this one helpful!)
I know thisll probably get lost in the comments, but thank you Snowman! You're easily the most "high effort" BB content creators out there. Your work is awesome and so enjoyable! Can't wait to see what else you have to make 👍
it's not 'bad', but it's at its most effective around the 50% chance to hit mark where it will tilt the odds to about a 49.5% chance to hit in your favor over time
@@Btobebone It's a sliver of 'green'. And as mentioned, respectfully a "C-tier". But I personally don't want to get people's hopes up that it's a useful/effective/good trait. Because it isn't :) (e.g. a 0.1% advantage is an advantage, just not a very good one)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman I still wouldn't put it so low. Most other traits in that tier are a direct detriment to any build, Lucky isn't a detriment it's just kind of there. You're not throwing a Bro in the trash if he has lucky and I believe there's some good events with the trait. Should be D or C, someone that looks at this tierlist and isn't experienced may come to think that a great Bro with Lucky should be in the bin. Edit: Much how like you put Team Player in the same tier. Team player is great as it makes skills like round swing not hit your own units, If you have a 2h wall and hitting the two dudes in front of you is a massive play but you have a bro to your left, Team player helps with it missing your buddy.
@@ayuvir Appreciate your opinion :) However, it still won't change my personal opinion on my tier-list. I've said my explanations, and don't want to repeat/talk in circles, so I'm happy to agree to disagree :)
I just started the game because of a german youtuber, now im at day 320smth and its amazing. I've been watching many of your battlebrother videos, there are very entertaining and helpful! Keep it up 🎉
This definitely helps me out some, I've only just started dipping into Legends after a couple hundred hours and the amount of extra information to absorb is staggering.
if you've played a lot of tabletop games with dice rolling in the past, you recognize the trap of lucky. on a 5% chance to hit, assume you got attacked 4,000 times. 200 of those attacks would hit, lucky would trigger 20 times and would stop 19 of those attacks. so 19 helps out of 4000. 50% chance to hit, same 4000 attacks, 2000 miss outright, 200 lucky procs, stopping 100 attacks out of 4000 attempts 90% chance to hit means 200 miss outright, 380 lucky procs that will stop roughly 38 of the 4000 attempts
Glad you revamped this video! Some other videos I'd like to see are what mods to use, expansion of your build guides to magic, bards, cooks, supports, etc., how to do the secret things of the game like put together the best weapon, showing what armor and traits go best with each build, and more videos that are a "faster" look at your runs like you have been doing that are about 1+ hours long instead of 8+ hour long segments. Keep up the great work!
I do have so many more guides to make to explain this complex mod and help the community with the scarcity/hard-to-find info. Glad this one was a helpful one and that you enjoyed watching :) (and keep a look out for more guides in the future!)
Superstititious can be devastating for someone in the frontline because he can get an event that make him afraid and have -50% resolve. Probably not a big deal for backline though.
I absolutely don’t agree about strong, cause it also basically gives you a free 10 initiative and that’s just great for doge and medium armor bros. and it also has some good events where strong bro can get even more fat. For me it’s one of the best in line with iron lungs cause it gives you + 20 stats. At least solid A tear.
Understandable, as "strong" does give a decent amount of stats, per say. However, the stats aren't as valuable as others above it, but maybe an argument could be made for it to be B-tier for different builds and bros :) (also that event for the +1 fatige only works if you have 2 strong bros and they can only get a max of +2, so not super amazing imo)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman "the stats aren't as valuable as others above it" i dont know, lets take for example Determined that you put at S tier. but its good ONLY in early game, cause once you take inspiring presence for your sergant - determined is useless cause all bros gonna be confident anyways. so IMHO strong is a solid A tear cause its usefull always and also by the way as it gives ini it also gives + def for doge bros. about events strong also can lift the cow and also get +1 fat:)
Interesting run down. The talking thru is more importinant than the actual tier so this was quite informative. Looking forward to more gameplay content tho!
hey man just wanna say i love the videos, i keep binging them as I travel, I hope I can get battle brothers soon but in the meantime thanks for the content ! :) glad to see someone enjoying their hobby
Quick deserves more love that what you were giving it, it's basically the better light weight for bros who fight and deal damage in melee About 2-3 level ups of initiative without downsides It's better to finish off enemies than to have them survive longer and making more attacks against you They should at least be in the same tier, both are good and depending on the bro either one could be the better trait Especially if Spartan is in the good tier as well xD
I can understand the love for quick, but it isn't that impactful imo. For dodge/overwhelm bro it's nice, but a general +10 speed for a normal bro doesn't do that much tbh. Enemies are almost always paced farrrr above your bros where only bros that are build with speed will see consistant chances to out-pace enemies. Building speed bros or grabbing perks like adrenaline will achieve that successfully while +10 init won't dent the pace of the battle. I don't think light & quick are of the same value, especially for a dodge/overwhelm (let's just ignore the normal bros, as init. is not really valuable for them anyways) +10 vs +20 is definitely a nice difference for a dodge/overwhelm bro. the +10% dmg (although daunting) isn't that bad of a detriment if you're considering the extra speed it gives that is convertable to out-speeding your enemy for an extra hit, and the extra defence from dodge (or medium armour's balance) "killing enemies faster" is a good way to look at the game, but it cannot be looked at in a 'bubble'. having a team of only 2h axes for max damage, isn't going to win you every fight. Defence & utility is there to pick up the slack when dps fails you. (e.g. lindwurms, noble fights, undead fights, even some greenskin fights) TLDR: light is better than quick when looking at dodge/overwhelm, both light and quick are only b/c tier because they're situationally helpful. The tier-list is looking at traits as a whole, for the entire roster of bros in the game. Gotta remember, initiative only really helps dodge/overwhelm and light/quick is barely doing anything outside of that :) (soz for the ramble, but wanted to give you the full explanation behind the reasoning as I couldn't ramble too much in the vid haha
greate video man! i have played many normal runs and just tackled legends and i really liked the video, it helped me to think of this perks in other ways. i would love to see one on skills and recruits. best of luck!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video and found it useful :) I do have a tier-list for recruits (slightly outdated but has almost all of them) might have to do another one in the future. Perks tier-list is on the to-do list :)
ehh i don't agree that false hope is enough of a downside to put them like in bad when there are enough traits that are just straight up downsides, I would just consider them like non traits at most like Eagle Eye. so just not too bad.
That's understandable. Lucky can help find small items to help but the retired soldier giving out a free arming sword and mail layer isn't tied to the "Lucky" trait though, that's just a event for everyone :)
Yessss I love this content! Just got into Battle Bros over the past few months, and I’ve been trying so hard to find new/contemporary content on the Legends mod. This is great. Love your style. Are you going to be doing a Perks tier list next???
Yes, the perks tier list will be a big and important one on my to-do list for guide vids. (will take a bit to make though) Glad you're enjoying the game, the mod, and the vids :)
Anyone tried the Old Swordmaster Campaign yet? Its from the PTR mod for legends and pretty fun. You are an old sword master and try to train new recruits in your craft before old age eats away at you, and you become weak and fragile. The new skills are half the fun. Most figths are a walk on a tight rope, the line between totally dominating and being massacred thin, at least on expert.
Old swordmaster campaign is a good one for PTR. Not sure how that translates to a trait tier-list but hope this vid helped you in your PTR runs as well :)
Eagles Eyes should not be D tier. I could understand not putting it in B, but it has to be at least in C. It has no downsides. Better that than no trait at all, even if it is outclassed by other traits. You also have to consider the fact that it takes the place of potentially worse traits too Same thing with Lucky, Swift, and Glorious Quickness (especially this one, since it doesn't even replace another trait. It has NO downsides, why is it bad?)
I appreciate your opinion on the matter and I hope you watched the vid to understand mine :) Not much more I can explain here that I didn't already mention in the vid.
My goal is to edit all the good traits to my brothers, like iron lungs, iron jaw, etc. & edit out the bad traits & permanent injuries like missing finger. Having unlimited money is fun.
I've had two slingers with "Impatient" and 110+ Ranged Skill. They would constantly get 1 or 2 kills, (depending on enemies and RNG) right before the actual fight even begins. Quite strong overall.
Fear/hate for undead is way worse then any other one. Hit chance matters way more in undead fights as well as fear checks that can lead to death. IF you can get disloyal as well as Undead hater, you don't have to have them in your line all the time and try to build as a bro who can flank around undead and kill blue berries or mancers. You don't put much on them because if they die they die. They did what you had them for.
I can see why "undead fear" could be worse than the other 3, because of the presence of screams. However, the main factor to fight undead is the presence of a good bannerman in your party (with rally ofc) and maybe some other supporting help too. (having less-than-desirable morale is common in BB and in undead fights it's mitigated by the banner) Good tactics can get you through undead fights fairly well and I wouldn't say the fear/hate of undead makes a big enough difference to warrent it better/worse than the other fears/hates. A suicide misison bro is an interesting idea, and not a tactic I've ever had to use to win undead fights but I'm glad it works for you :)
Lucky is just straight up variable amount of Melee and Range Defence and i think only way to go below 5% chance to be hit. Nothing false about it. Also how often you dont take any fatigue for your chars if you value 10 Fat below 5 resolve for example. Additional actions points are never bad. Clearly better than all negative traits you grouped it with. Bloodthirsty has nice interaction with one perk that restores action points on fatalities. Would love to see your take on perks
I think the -30% for fleeing is only for the base stats which isn’t so bad at least early game. You might have 5-10 mdef on a bro, which is reduced by like 2 or three, but with a shield you get like an extra unmodified 15 or higher, and weasel you also just get a flat 25
Those %-modifiers are not just for base-stats sadly :( Fleeing in combat really tanks your current stats but the boost for weasel is still helpful in a pinch when you need some more luck going your way :)
I understand :) The slight bonus of lucky (and the other 2 green E-tiers) is good enough for C-tier, but yeah, personal vendettas and all that false hope has me red-pilled to break away from 'liking' those traits haha
Having an old banner bro is basically free resolve. I get that having that trait on literally anyone else is a big detriment, but so long as you can manage fatigue, the downsides don’t really effect you at all.
In my opinion all negative traits deserve the AXE tier, if its D tier or lower DECAPITATE and find another bro. I'd rather slow down my campaign to train a new bro then stick around with those who can potentially wipe your entire party, not just them selves. Besides bro's die all the time, and sometimes you should help a bro out, by hastening the process!
Yeah, the ultimate bros don't want to be weighed down by risky traits for sure :) Sometimes I have fun though with bros that have slightl liabilities and enjoy the chaos haha (but purist BB power grind ftw :P )
@@TheIndomitableSnowman its actually turned out to be the best playthrough ive ever had. Im at day 119 all of my frontline bros have 170+mail with my big bros having 240+ mail Gotten past the first big world crisis (i chose noble war to get easy gear) and im able to comfortably take on 15 orc young, or a noble company of 15. And ive only just got my 11th bro... I need to find some legendary gear now, found 1 goblin named cruel falchion which does 35-45 damage and only wastes 2 fatigue which is really good
Lucky in combat means that if a SUCCESSFUL attack hits you, it has a 10 % chance of requiring a second successful roll. It does not trigger on failed rolls, easy A/B tier
Guy hates team player. It's great to have on edge 2h melee guys with a tank next to em. Also great on handcannon bros. Less likely to shoot or hack off your buddies head is great let's you continue fighting the hordes with less worry.
I know you don't consider events much on the traits, but I would like to ask a question, due not playing on legends mod (lacking one dlc and waiting for sale before picking it up)... But at least in normal battle brothers, team player has event named "teamplayer is a bro" which, besides the name, has nice ability of giving your other bros permanent +1 resolve. While +1 isn't that much, I find this valuable due the fact the event can trigger multiple times over a play through and thus give all the in the roster +1, resulting in up to 10-20 extra resolve points overall. Nooot saying it gets too high but I wouldn't place it in bad myself.
Events are very RNG-based and only a few are really ones to write home about imo. The Team-Player event is nice and all, but +1 resolve doesn't do much and you can only recieve the bonus once for every bro (even if it can proc multiple times a playthrough on a 50day cooldown) I can see that for you it's a nicer trait, but I'll still keep my rating :) (also thanks Sean! I forgot to mention BB & dlc is on sale till the 30th)
Hello Snowman, would like to comment on this video in regard to few traits and my thoughts on them. All the bonuses you put to the Bad tier, I think that's controversial and obviously your opinion is based on your experience and feelings. They are still positive, and you should change YOUR mind and at least classify them as 'not bad' even if not average as most players would put them. I mean - they are beneficial even if you sometimes get overconfident and that leads you to disaster ... are you perhaps having "cocky" yourself which activates under certain conditions (like having those traits in a brother)? But you do you! Glorious Quickness is where I disagree strongly, Action Points are extremely viable and having a trait on top of the perk is great. Despite the specific case and the inability to be used with other weapons effectively due to background and such, using it with Dagger Mastery can lead to extremely favorable results. That change from 4 to 3 AP cost of an attack means that it changes the dynamics and thanks to it the damage output of Dagger specialist, which is very high, it can become even higher. The trait Strong is, also carrying another hidden mechanics - it gives you +10 initiative when wearing armor (unless the mechanic is changed in Legends, should check it out). Which makes it a bit better then only giving Fatigue. You also didn't mention events which while not guaranteed can move a trait (at least in my opinion) up or down a tier or at least half-tier.
Thanks for your opinion on the matter :) I did do somewhat of a mention about the 3 personal-opinion bad traits being my personal opinion and most people watching (yourself included) could easily see that they were placed in a lower tier due to that resoning despite their 'green stats'. Glorius quickness is alright when paired with berserk, but on it's own, you're not actually getting very much out of it during general gameplay save for maybe a free 2AP tile movement after a kill. Strong does have the hidden technical +10 initiative which I forgot to mention in the vid and would most likely push it very close to B tier as a result :) Events are nice but not reliable or insanely impactful when regarding traits.
@@TheIndomitableSnowman The video is of good quality and presented excellent. All we share is some opinions on what we find fun! I would not call the trait related events or outcomes reliable or insanely impactful, but at least a note just as you did about addict. Would probably made it too lengthy of a video to cover all, but at least a brief mention of those who you consider impactful enough to be said.
thanks for this vid man , i realy like watching you'r gameplays , is it possible for you to post a pic with all this chart so me and others can look at it according to you'r order of recommandation? there are many pics of tier list out there and every one thinks diff on those maters therefore it'll be awsome if we can have you'r pic right infront of us when we pick new members for the team , again thanks for the lovely content keep up the good work
Charming is good for it's luck-ability to give your bros confidence at the start of a battle, not really for 'saving' their bad morale (like a banner does). Banners can't give you confidence, so the "charming" trait is still strong into late game :)
The S-tiers are good late game, though people have argued determined isn't as impactful, to which I say it it still valuable (but a banner can reduce it a little, but you can't just look at one point in the game to justify the general use of something) Agressive is only used for melee and has a very bad detriment, so there's no way it's a perfect trait :) Remember this is looking at traits across the board, for all bros. Hope this helps :)
Yea it’s bad for some builds , but it’s the best trait for best legends build , since legends mod buffed spear through the roof , especially 2handed spear .
Death wish is good in vanilla, but in legends mod , there are many ways to improve resolve without leveling up , also fearsome build is viable in legends . Mind over body is one of best builds too . That’s why I think death wish is indirectly nerfed in legends .
Brute gives +15% damage to the head, but axe hits both body and head for additional damage. So does brute gives you extra damage if that bro using axe?
Found the answer, and its interesting that brute does NOT affect the '2nd hit' of a 2h axe Seems to only affect 'targeted' headshots (from initial dmg, if that makes sense)
I love the tier list, and I agree with most all of them but the ones I disagree with are: Lucky is average (It's not detrimental, it only has a positive effect even if its a weak one), Martial is good (+5% melee skill with no downside? I'll take that deal), Quick is good (free stats are free stats, and if Brute gets ranked based on proper usage then Quick should as well), Strong is Strong! (Ya, perks are better at getting Fat. neutral but +10 fat is still amazingly helpful. Not S-tier helpful, but definitely A-tier), and Swift is good (Dude. ಠ_ಠ)
I do always have my modlists available on my discord channel (and links to all the mods I use there too) but I haven't done "mod showcases" or my "top 10 mods for BB" kinda stuff. Nice suggestion, ty :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman It appears your role bot didn't work or something; discord is blank and no option to chat with anyone or see any content within your discord.
So I have a question, does perc "True believer" removes dastard and craven traits or not? It is written in its description but you didn't say anything about it
Ahh yes, the perk true believer does successfully remove superstitous, insecure, craven & dastard. I failed to mentioned it as I was focusing on the general interactions of the traits (and spending a perk to fix a bad trait is definitely good, but a waste of a perk imo if you can avoid the bad perk in the first place) definitely a band-aid solution.
i'd personally put bright a bit higher, its basically half a perk, i usually pick student when the perk is available but when there is bright it feels less bad not picking it up, also, come on snow, lucky should be at least average, be it just for the events
It is basically half-a-perk, but all the traits above it do more imo. (I do believe I mentioned it being good to synergize with student, but on it's own it's not as strong) I do look at things more in a combat-sense, ohh and lucky's single event isn't that amazing haha, but i understand "green is good" :P
Hear me out on this nimble bro with berserk and glorious quickness, dagger master duelist.... 🤫 just listen and do it you will understand the power.....
Total noob here, but I tend to miss a lot having ranged defense against bandit marksmen. Fighting at night and wearing kite shields and im still getting shot so much...
I just started playing in the last few weeks, and it seems like a number of the traits may have changed since this vid. Night Owl for example, only shows me a +1 vision at night, and Huge still has the -5 mdef/rdef, and is +10% melee and no ranged. Is this the case, or are some of the aspects of a trait hidden?
Is it just me who have diffrent traits in game than what is hown here? For example nightowl, in my game nightowl only give plus 1 vision during nighttime, nothing else. Meanwhile 30:33 in the video his nightowl got ranged buffs as well. I do not understand why that is the case. Anyone knows why?
Maybe you're using a older version of Legends? That's most likely the case. The latest versions can be found in the Legends discord channel and the latest version of the mod (as of writing this) is 16.2.4
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Thank you for the reply! I am very new to batttle brothers so i did not realize that your trait tierlist was for the Battle brothers legends mod (even though it is clearly stated in your title and description). I do not have the mod at all, just the basegame which explains my confusion. My bad and thank you for clarifying.
@@carlonduty7270 That's all good, and happy you're enjoying the game :) I usually tell people to get used to the base game (and it's dlc) before moving to the more complex 'modded gameplay'. Hope all goes well and that you have fun!
These videos take time, still working on getting more efficient though. More edited content on the way, but if you're referring to un-edited playthroughs, then that's something I'm gonna come back to in a little bit :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman it’s always fun watching how other people struggle to do the same thing as me. I also recommend 2 games that have a similar (why does the ring hate my guts) feeling. War tales and bannerlord to a smaller scale. Mount and blade is more just surviving to mid game and getting back at the bs system. War tales is sucking me in just like battle brothers did when the southern states dlc dropped.
Haha :) Dagger bros are fun and maaaaybe could use this trait better than others. The trait could be there to allow an extra point(s) to give you enough to "footwork" out of danger? (super assasin vibes for sure!)
Ahh yes, the challenges of RP haha! Charming = s-tier as charisma characters always break tabletop games Clumsy = comedic relief, and we all know insecure = just a part of everyone's backstory :P
Traits with only positive effects ending in... "noty too bad" "bad". Yeah, seems to me the author didn't have the best of days doing this video. A 100% positive trait, no matter how small the bonus is, cannot be "bad", it's a very simple, undeniable logic. Claiming otherwise is just bollocks.
The single event it gives isn't super fancy imo. +1 Resolve (for 50% of your bros), 50day cooldown, and no bro can get it twice. Still not enough to convince me sadly :(
Yup, thats correct. Melee defence is a super important stat in BB and Legends mod. Ranged defence is almost useless (except you can put it on ranged bros to help 'counter-snipe')
''Lucky'' is a better skill then like 12 of the skills you put in D-Tier. Lets say we got 2 average bro's, stats are exactly the same, yours got Clubfoot/Bleeder or any of the fears, and mine has got lucky. Who's got the better bro?
@@Canaris3ye tought so, cause 2h hammer axe axe is so rare, pole hammer and poleaxe plus polearm game is shitting them, but i want 2h variants and i am not getting them
That will be a big one for sure, and on my to-do list (definitely more complicated than a traits tier list, but definitely an important guide for the community) :)
Hope you learned a new trait or two and whether some are good or bad! ☃
All traits are ranked 'vertically' because it's too much effort and not worth it to rank them 'with-in' the tiers, unless specifically mentioned.
Slightly beneficial Trait: "FALSE HOPE! E TIER!"
Traits vulnerable to supernatural attacks and the nastiest encounters in the game? "Is fine man, those are totally recoverable."
(good video tho)
14:00 Eagle Eye is an S tier trait.
It unlocks the drip!
Haha, yes! The power and need for fashion, I do apologise
On Glorious quickness, I think it actually offers a lot of utility when it goes alongside Berserk. Having just 1 more action point opens a lot of options.
In many situations, the 1AP will let you reposition 1 hex further. You can also do whacky things like quickhands from a two-hander into a one-hander for two extra hits, or vice-versa. I feel it's nice and unique for this brother specifically that offers interesting builds and tactical options you don't usually get. It's definitely a build-around trait instead of a straight benefit though.
Yeah, I did mention the interaction/reliance on berserk.
I guess it could just give you that extra tile of movement and that could be a useful 'chase-down' or 'reposition' utility in combat.
But I think that's a little less valuable than berserk itself.
Still, you do have a point to give more value to Glorius Quickness and it's maybe a C-tier in the best situations.
(still super situational, and I'd rather have the other C-tiers tbh as they're more reliable, but still, as you say, maybe some tactical options from that to make a slight difference) :)
Found your channel today after started playing battle brotheres yesterday (i watched the trader and spanish inquisition videos they were gab). Just finished watching your intro to legends mod guide and was looking for more guides when this pops up! Fantasric timing
Glad to hear the timing was perfect :)
Hope you enjoyed!
Great video my dude, been recently learning Legends and PTR at the same time and it's always good to see an over view of some of what is in front of me. Well spoken and concise ;)
Glad to hear the vid is able to help you learning the game and the mods :) (and that you enjoyed it!)
Diving into legends + ptr is quite complex and hope you're having fun with it all!
This was really helpful. I hope you do something similar with perks as I feel kind of overwhelmed with all the new ones in Legends.
A perks-tier-list is on the to-do list for sure (but that one is gonna be a lot bigger haha, so many perks)
The mod is rather complex and overwhelming for sure so I'd definitely feel it'd be a helpful vid too :)
(glad to hear you found this one helpful!)
I know thisll probably get lost in the comments, but thank you Snowman!
You're easily the most "high effort" BB content creators out there. Your work is awesome and so enjoyable! Can't wait to see what else you have to make 👍
Much appreciated for the kind and heart-felt comment
Snows rng screwed him so much he hates the lucky trait 😂
You may or may not be right >.>
I'll never tell :P
it's not 'bad', but it's at its most effective around the 50% chance to hit mark where it will tilt the odds to about a 49.5% chance to hit in your favor over time
@@Btobebone It's a sliver of 'green'. And as mentioned, respectfully a "C-tier". But I personally don't want to get people's hopes up that it's a useful/effective/good trait. Because it isn't :) (e.g. a 0.1% advantage is an advantage, just not a very good one)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman I still wouldn't put it so low. Most other traits in that tier are a direct detriment to any build, Lucky isn't a detriment it's just kind of there. You're not throwing a Bro in the trash if he has lucky and I believe there's some good events with the trait. Should be D or C, someone that looks at this tierlist and isn't experienced may come to think that a great Bro with Lucky should be in the bin.
Edit: Much how like you put Team Player in the same tier. Team player is great as it makes skills like round swing not hit your own units, If you have a 2h wall and hitting the two dudes in front of you is a massive play but you have a bro to your left, Team player helps with it missing your buddy.
@@ayuvir Appreciate your opinion :)
However, it still won't change my personal opinion on my tier-list.
I've said my explanations, and don't want to repeat/talk in circles, so I'm happy to agree to disagree :)
I just started the game because of a german youtuber, now im at day 320smth and its amazing. I've been watching many of your battlebrother videos, there are very entertaining and helpful! Keep it up 🎉
Glad to hear it! Happy that the vids are entertaining and helpful
This definitely helps me out some, I've only just started dipping into Legends after a couple hundred hours and the amount of extra information to absorb is staggering.
It's quite the dive when trying to learn this mod, so I'm happy to hear the vid helped :)
Hope you enjoy the mod and glad you enjoyed the vid!
if you've played a lot of tabletop games with dice rolling in the past, you recognize the trap of lucky.
on a 5% chance to hit, assume you got attacked 4,000 times. 200 of those attacks would hit, lucky would trigger 20 times and would stop 19 of those attacks. so 19 helps out of 4000.
50% chance to hit, same 4000 attacks, 2000 miss outright, 200 lucky procs, stopping 100 attacks out of 4000 attempts
90% chance to hit means 200 miss outright, 380 lucky procs that will stop roughly 38 of the 4000 attempts
Yup, the nail is hit on the head
Glad you revamped this video! Some other videos I'd like to see are what mods to use, expansion of your build guides to magic, bards, cooks, supports, etc., how to do the secret things of the game like put together the best weapon, showing what armor and traits go best with each build, and more videos that are a "faster" look at your runs like you have been doing that are about 1+ hours long instead of 8+ hour long segments. Keep up the great work!
I do have so many more guides to make to explain this complex mod and help the community with the scarcity/hard-to-find info.
Glad this one was a helpful one and that you enjoyed watching :) (and keep a look out for more guides in the future!)
Superstititious can be devastating for someone in the frontline because he can get an event that make him afraid and have -50% resolve. Probably not a big deal for backline though.
Yeah, that event can be annoying for sure, but it passes in a day or two which makes it manageable (but still very annoying haha)
30:18 Night Blind is super annoying for heavily armored polearm backline bros as they will lose range below a certain Vision threshold
This is the first time I hear about “arena champion” and “invictus” traits, thank you!
They are tricky ones to get, but can be nice boons if you can farm the arena effectively :)
Glad the video helped and that you enjoyed!
I absolutely don’t agree about strong, cause it also basically gives you a free 10 initiative and that’s just great for doge and medium armor bros. and it also has some good events where strong bro can get even more fat. For me it’s one of the best in line with iron lungs cause it gives you + 20 stats. At least solid A tear.
Understandable, as "strong" does give a decent amount of stats, per say. However, the stats aren't as valuable as others above it, but maybe an argument could be made for it to be B-tier for different builds and bros :)
(also that event for the +1 fatige only works if you have 2 strong bros and they can only get a max of +2, so not super amazing imo)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman "the stats aren't as valuable as others above it"
i dont know, lets take for example Determined that you put at S tier. but its good ONLY in early game, cause once you take inspiring presence for your sergant - determined is useless cause all bros gonna be confident anyways. so IMHO strong is a solid A tear cause its usefull always and also by the way as it gives ini it also gives + def for doge bros.
about events strong also can lift the cow and also get +1 fat:)
Interesting run down. The talking thru is more importinant than the actual tier so this was quite informative.
Looking forward to more gameplay content tho!
Happy to hear the talk was helpful
hey man just wanna say i love the videos, i keep binging them as I travel, I hope I can get battle brothers soon but in the meantime thanks for the content ! :) glad to see someone enjoying their hobby
Thanks man, glad to hear you're enjoying the vids and the content :)
Hope you can enjoy the game when you have the opportunity too!
Old can also be avoided if your guy is brain damaged and recruited to the cult. Did this to the sword master and the Orc hunter.
Nice :) A fun work-around for sure (cults are always better people anyways :P )
Quick deserves more love that what you were giving it, it's basically the better light
weight for bros who fight and deal damage in melee
About 2-3 level ups of initiative without downsides
It's better to finish off enemies than to have them survive longer and making more attacks against you
They should at least be in the same tier, both are good and depending on the bro either one could be the better trait
Especially if Spartan is in the good tier as well xD
I can understand the love for quick, but it isn't that impactful imo. For dodge/overwhelm bro it's nice, but a general +10 speed for a normal bro doesn't do that much tbh.
Enemies are almost always paced farrrr above your bros where only bros that are build with speed will see consistant chances to out-pace enemies.
Building speed bros or grabbing perks like adrenaline will achieve that successfully while +10 init won't dent the pace of the battle.
I don't think light & quick are of the same value, especially for a dodge/overwhelm (let's just ignore the normal bros, as init. is not really valuable for them anyways)
+10 vs +20 is definitely a nice difference for a dodge/overwhelm bro. the +10% dmg (although daunting) isn't that bad of a detriment if you're considering the extra speed it gives that is convertable to out-speeding your enemy for an extra hit, and the extra defence from dodge (or medium armour's balance)
"killing enemies faster" is a good way to look at the game, but it cannot be looked at in a 'bubble'.
having a team of only 2h axes for max damage, isn't going to win you every fight.
Defence & utility is there to pick up the slack when dps fails you. (e.g. lindwurms, noble fights, undead fights, even some greenskin fights)
TLDR: light is better than quick when looking at dodge/overwhelm, both light and quick are only b/c tier because they're situationally helpful. The tier-list is looking at traits as a whole, for the entire roster of bros in the game. Gotta remember, initiative only really helps dodge/overwhelm and light/quick is barely doing anything outside of that :)
(soz for the ramble, but wanted to give you the full explanation behind the reasoning as I couldn't ramble too much in the vid haha
greate video man! i have played many normal runs and just tackled legends and i really liked the video, it helped me to think of this perks in other ways. i would love to see one on skills and recruits.
best of luck!
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video and found it useful :)
I do have a tier-list for recruits (slightly outdated but has almost all of them) might have to do another one in the future.
Perks tier-list is on the to-do list :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman If you can, please do a perks tier list soon, I've been watching some legends and am completely lost.
ehh i don't agree that false hope is enough of a downside to put them like in bad when there are enough traits that are just straight up downsides, I would just consider them like non traits at most like Eagle Eye. so just not too bad.
We can agree to disagree :) but yeah, for some people those 3 can just be C-tier but I will still keep them down because of how 'useful' they sound.
Yeah I enjoy all your long form battle brothers analysis thanks
Thanks :) Glad it was an informative watch!
A helpful and awesome video! Nonetheless - new 100 days video when? :P
Glad to hear it's a helpful watch :)
(Ofc, 100 days will be not far down on the to-do list hehe)
A tiny paranoid tank would be so much fun.
It is a fun time to find a tank-worthy bro with paranoid + tiny, and surprisingly I've made a couple of those before (definitely sweet bonus stats!)
Having at least 1 Lucky in the early game is very good, or at least used to be. I used to get arming swords and early mail (layer 1) gear with it.
That's understandable. Lucky can help find small items to help but the retired soldier giving out a free arming sword and mail layer isn't tied to the "Lucky" trait though, that's just a event for everyone :)
Yessss I love this content! Just got into Battle Bros over the past few months, and I’ve been trying so hard to find new/contemporary content on the Legends mod. This is great. Love your style.
Are you going to be doing a Perks tier list next???
Yes, the perks tier list will be a big and important one on my to-do list for guide vids.
(will take a bit to make though) Glad you're enjoying the game, the mod, and the vids :)
Anyone tried the Old Swordmaster Campaign yet? Its from the PTR mod for legends and pretty fun. You are an old sword master and try to train new recruits in your craft before old age eats away at you, and you become weak and fragile.
The new skills are half the fun.
Most figths are a walk on a tight rope, the line between totally dominating and being massacred thin, at least on expert.
Old swordmaster campaign is a good one for PTR.
Not sure how that translates to a trait tier-list but hope this vid helped you in your PTR runs as well :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Yeah, I was just sharing. Saw later that you had already finished an Old SM playthrough
@@suuujuuus Ahh, all good :) just didn't want to miss the context. Glad you're enjoying the mods!
Eagles Eyes should not be D tier. I could understand not putting it in B, but it has to be at least in C. It has no downsides. Better that than no trait at all, even if it is outclassed by other traits. You also have to consider the fact that it takes the place of potentially worse traits too
Same thing with Lucky, Swift, and Glorious Quickness (especially this one, since it doesn't even replace another trait. It has NO downsides, why is it bad?)
I appreciate your opinion on the matter and I hope you watched the vid to understand mine :)
Not much more I can explain here that I didn't already mention in the vid.
My goal is to edit all the good traits to my brothers, like iron lungs, iron jaw, etc. & edit out the bad traits & permanent injuries like missing finger. Having unlimited money is fun.
Gotta collect them all :)
When you do collect all the infinity stones, pls be responsible with the overwhelming power (pls!)
I've had two slingers with "Impatient" and 110+ Ranged Skill. They would constantly get 1 or 2 kills, (depending on enemies and RNG) right before the actual fight even begins. Quite strong overall.
Amazing editing in this video dude, great job
Thanks man! Appreciate the kind words and the fact that you enjoyed the presentation of it all :)
Fear/hate for undead is way worse then any other one. Hit chance matters way more in undead fights as well as fear checks that can lead to death. IF you can get disloyal as well as Undead hater, you don't have to have them in your line all the time and try to build as a bro who can flank around undead and kill blue berries or mancers. You don't put much on them because if they die they die. They did what you had them for.
I can see why "undead fear" could be worse than the other 3, because of the presence of screams.
However, the main factor to fight undead is the presence of a good bannerman in your party (with rally ofc) and maybe some other supporting help too. (having less-than-desirable morale is common in BB and in undead fights it's mitigated by the banner)
Good tactics can get you through undead fights fairly well and I wouldn't say the fear/hate of undead makes a big enough difference to warrent it better/worse than the other fears/hates.
A suicide misison bro is an interesting idea, and not a tactic I've ever had to use to win undead fights but I'm glad it works for you :)
Lucky is just straight up variable amount of Melee and Range Defence and i think only way to go below 5% chance to be hit. Nothing false about it.
Also how often you dont take any fatigue for your chars if you value 10 Fat below 5 resolve for example.
Additional actions points are never bad. Clearly better than all negative traits you grouped it with.
Bloodthirsty has nice interaction with one perk that restores action points on fatalities.
Would love to see your take on perks
Appreciate the feedback :)
A perks tier list will happen, just gotta do a couple other vids first.
I think the -30% for fleeing is only for the base stats which isn’t so bad at least early game. You might have 5-10 mdef on a bro, which is reduced by like 2 or three, but with a shield you get like an extra unmodified 15 or higher, and weasel you also just get a flat 25
Those %-modifiers are not just for base-stats sadly :(
Fleeing in combat really tanks your current stats but the boost for weasel is still helpful in a pinch when you need some more luck going your way :)
great video!! hope it gets more attention
Thanks :) Appreciate the kind comment
Personally I would put lucky on average, but other then that I agree with this list. Good arguements too.
I understand :) The slight bonus of lucky (and the other 2 green E-tiers) is good enough for C-tier, but yeah, personal vendettas and all that false hope has me red-pilled to break away from 'liking' those traits haha
Good stuff, glad I subbed!
Much appreciated for the sub and very happy to hear the vid was helpful and a good watch
Having an old banner bro is basically free resolve. I get that having that trait on literally anyone else is a big detriment, but so long as you can manage fatigue, the downsides don’t really effect you at all.
In my opinion all negative traits deserve the AXE tier, if its D tier or lower DECAPITATE and find another bro. I'd rather slow down my campaign to train a new bro then stick around with those who can potentially wipe your entire party, not just them selves. Besides bro's die all the time, and sometimes you should help a bro out, by hastening the process!
Yeah, the ultimate bros don't want to be weighed down by risky traits for sure :)
Sometimes I have fun though with bros that have slightl liabilities and enjoy the chaos haha (but purist BB power grind ftw :P )
I know what I'm watching when I get back home from college let's go!!!
Glad you're keen :) Hope you enjoy!
Finally finished the video and now I'm gonna try the cultist playthrough since I haven't tried one and the candles got me interested.
@@wildicedemon9926 Glad to hear it :) Cults are super sweet! The trick is more attention to managing your bros and that super scary sacrifice >.>
very useful video, thank you
Thanks :) glad it was a good watch and hope it helps your playthoughs!
Great video, it would be cool to make tirlists with perks and weapons (vanilla/legendary) for educational purposes.
Glad to hear it
Bro, the eagle eye perk in D tier feels bad, assuming you consider disloyal C tier. Beside that, perfect ranking !
I never realized what the superstitious symbol was until now. I thought it was just eyes on a black background.
For some reason my new playthrough as a hedge knight, 5 of my bros have impatient on them.
I kept rolling really good bros
Nice to hear it!
Really only need one impatient for retreats & tactics :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman its actually turned out to be the best playthrough ive ever had.
Im at day 119 all of my frontline bros have 170+mail with my big bros having 240+ mail
Gotten past the first big world crisis (i chose noble war to get easy gear) and im able to comfortably take on 15 orc young, or a noble company of 15. And ive only just got my 11th bro...
I need to find some legendary gear now, found 1 goblin named cruel falchion which does 35-45 damage and only wastes 2 fatigue which is really good
Happy to hear of the success
Lucky in combat means that if a SUCCESSFUL attack hits you, it has a 10 % chance of requiring a second successful roll. It does not trigger on failed rolls, easy A/B tier
More videos like this please
Glad you enjoyed and found this vid helpful :)
Will need to make more 👍
Could you do a weapons tier list? I love your analysis so far.
another great video 👍👍😁
Many thanks :) Glad you liked it!
Great guide as a new player. Also what’s the next video? I’m just curious for something to look forward to😂
Glad you enjoyed and found it helpful :)
I have a big to-do list and will keep working on things like the 100 days and more guides as well!
@@TheIndomitableSnowman can’t wait
I havent seen half of these traits which just shows the depth of the game, i think i have about 80 hours or so i tuink maybe just over 100
These are for modded (Legends)
but a bunch of vanilla ones are here too :)
Guy hates team player. It's great to have on edge 2h melee guys with a tank next to em. Also great on handcannon bros. Less likely to shoot or hack off your buddies head is great let's you continue fighting the hordes with less worry.
Battle brothers, hell yeah.
Glad you liked the vid!
I know you don't consider events much on the traits, but I would like to ask a question, due not playing on legends mod (lacking one dlc and waiting for sale before picking it up)...
But at least in normal battle brothers, team player has event named "teamplayer is a bro" which, besides the name, has nice ability of giving your other bros permanent +1 resolve. While +1 isn't that much, I find this valuable due the fact the event can trigger multiple times over a play through and thus give all the in the roster +1, resulting in up to 10-20 extra resolve points overall.
Nooot saying it gets too high but I wouldn't place it in bad myself.
theres a sale on steam for it now, only 15% off for the individual dlcs tho so idk if you were waiting for something better
Events are very RNG-based and only a few are really ones to write home about imo.
The Team-Player event is nice and all, but +1 resolve doesn't do much and you can only recieve the bonus once for every bro (even if it can proc multiple times a playthrough on a 50day cooldown)
I can see that for you it's a nicer trait, but I'll still keep my rating :)
(also thanks Sean! I forgot to mention BB & dlc is on sale till the 30th)
Hello Snowman,
would like to comment on this video in regard to few traits and my thoughts on them.
All the bonuses you put to the Bad tier, I think that's controversial and obviously your opinion is based on your experience and feelings. They are still positive, and you should change YOUR mind and at least classify them as 'not bad' even if not average as most players would put them. I mean - they are beneficial even if you sometimes get overconfident and that leads you to disaster ... are you perhaps having "cocky" yourself which activates under certain conditions (like having those traits in a brother)? But you do you!
Glorious Quickness is where I disagree strongly, Action Points are extremely viable and having a trait on top of the perk is great. Despite the specific case and the inability to be used with other weapons effectively due to background and such, using it with Dagger Mastery can lead to extremely favorable results. That change from 4 to 3 AP cost of an attack means that it changes the dynamics and thanks to it the damage output of Dagger specialist, which is very high, it can become even higher.
The trait Strong is, also carrying another hidden mechanics - it gives you +10 initiative when wearing armor (unless the mechanic is changed in Legends, should check it out). Which makes it a bit better then only giving Fatigue.
You also didn't mention events which while not guaranteed can move a trait (at least in my opinion) up or down a tier or at least half-tier.
Thanks for your opinion on the matter :)
I did do somewhat of a mention about the 3 personal-opinion bad traits being my personal opinion and most people watching (yourself included) could easily see that they were placed in a lower tier due to that resoning despite their 'green stats'.
Glorius quickness is alright when paired with berserk, but on it's own, you're not actually getting very much out of it during general gameplay save for maybe a free 2AP tile movement after a kill.
Strong does have the hidden technical +10 initiative which I forgot to mention in the vid and would most likely push it very close to B tier as a result :)
Events are nice but not reliable or insanely impactful when regarding traits.
@@TheIndomitableSnowman The video is of good quality and presented excellent. All we share is some opinions on what we find fun!
I would not call the trait related events or outcomes reliable or insanely impactful, but at least a note just as you did about addict. Would probably made it too lengthy of a video to cover all, but at least a brief mention of those who you consider impactful enough to be said.
thanks for this vid man , i realy like watching you'r gameplays , is it possible for you to post a pic with all this chart so me and others can look at it according to you'r order of recommandation? there are many pics of tier list out there and every one thinks diff on those maters therefore it'll be awsome if we can have you'r pic right infront of us when we pick new members for the team , again thanks for the lovely content keep up the good work
Charming is only good before you got a decent bannerman, therefore i would rate it C tier
Charming is good for it's luck-ability to give your bros confidence at the start of a battle, not really for 'saving' their bad morale (like a banner does).
Banners can't give you confidence, so the "charming" trait is still strong into late game :)
damn you are spot on man
Appreciate the kind words and glad you enjoyed the vid (and found it helpful too :) )
i think lucky at least has to be on not to bad because after all it have no downside
How is Aggressive not in the God tier , but A tier ? Some of those S tier traits are useless late game though (day 100+) .
The S-tiers are good late game, though people have argued determined isn't as impactful, to which I say it it still valuable (but a banner can reduce it a little, but you can't just look at one point in the game to justify the general use of something)
Agressive is only used for melee and has a very bad detriment, so there's no way it's a perfect trait :)
Remember this is looking at traits across the board, for all bros. Hope this helps :)
Yea it’s bad for some builds , but it’s the best trait for best legends build , since legends mod buffed spear through the roof , especially 2handed spear .
Death wish is good in vanilla, but in legends mod , there are many ways to improve resolve without leveling up , also fearsome build is viable in legends . Mind over body is one of best builds too . That’s why I think death wish is indirectly nerfed in legends .
great video!
Craven is nice for reserve bros bros that you have just for events.
Brute gives +15% damage to the head, but axe hits both body and head for additional damage. So does brute gives you extra damage if that bro using axe?
Ahhhh, that's a good question, will double check for you :) (and message back soon!)
Found the answer, and its interesting that brute does NOT affect the '2nd hit' of a 2h axe
Seems to only affect 'targeted' headshots (from initial dmg, if that makes sense)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman thanks for the answer, your video was very useful, keep going!
I love the tier list, and I agree with most all of them but the ones I disagree with are: Lucky is average (It's not detrimental, it only has a positive effect even if its a weak one), Martial is good (+5% melee skill with no downside? I'll take that deal), Quick is good (free stats are free stats, and if Brute gets ranked based on proper usage then Quick should as well), Strong is Strong! (Ya, perks are better at getting Fat. neutral but +10 fat is still amazingly helpful. Not S-tier helpful, but definitely A-tier), and Swift is good (Dude. ಠ_ಠ)
You should go over what mods you use with legends as quality of life.
specifically the one where u can pre-highlight perk paths u want to take with a bro that one is nice :(
I do always have my modlists available on my discord channel (and links to all the mods I use there too) but I haven't done "mod showcases" or my "top 10 mods for BB" kinda stuff. Nice suggestion, ty :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman It appears your role bot didn't work or something; discord is blank and no option to chat with anyone or see any content within your discord.
im an idiot nvm.
@@pacifist3651 hehe, all good and glad you figured it out
Have you done an injury tier list?
So I have a question, does perc "True believer" removes dastard and craven traits or not?
It is written in its description but you didn't say anything about it
Ahh yes, the perk true believer does successfully remove superstitous, insecure, craven & dastard.
I failed to mentioned it as I was focusing on the general interactions of the traits (and spending a perk to fix a bad trait is definitely good, but a waste of a perk imo if you can avoid the bad perk in the first place) definitely a band-aid solution.
Yes, i will remove those traits, dastard can ruin your run, so better get rid of it
i'd personally put bright a bit higher, its basically half a perk, i usually pick student when the perk is available but when there is bright it feels less bad not picking it up, also, come on snow, lucky should be at least average, be it just for the events
It is basically half-a-perk, but all the traits above it do more imo. (I do believe I mentioned it being good to synergize with student, but on it's own it's not as strong)
I do look at things more in a combat-sense, ohh and lucky's single event isn't that amazing haha, but i understand "green is good" :P
Hear me out on this nimble bro with berserk and glorious quickness, dagger master duelist.... 🤫 just listen and do it you will understand the power.....
Sounds fun :)
My double tongued with rally the troops banner bro
They changed Double Tounged now, its not as debilitating as it used to be.
Total noob here, but I tend to miss a lot having ranged defense against bandit marksmen. Fighting at night and wearing kite shields and im still getting shot so much...
I just started playing in the last few weeks, and it seems like a number of the traits may have changed since this vid. Night Owl for example, only shows me a +1 vision at night, and Huge still has the -5 mdef/rdef, and is +10% melee and no ranged. Is this the case, or are some of the aspects of a trait hidden?
Is it just me who have diffrent traits in game than what is hown here? For example nightowl, in my game nightowl only give plus 1 vision during nighttime, nothing else. Meanwhile 30:33 in the video his nightowl got ranged buffs as well. I do not understand why that is the case. Anyone knows why?
Maybe you're using a older version of Legends?
That's most likely the case. The latest versions can be found in the Legends discord channel and the latest version of the mod (as of writing this) is 16.2.4
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Thank you for the reply! I am very new to batttle brothers so i did not realize that your trait tierlist was for the Battle brothers legends mod (even though it is clearly stated in your title and description). I do not have the mod at all, just the basegame which explains my confusion. My bad and thank you for clarifying.
@@carlonduty7270 That's all good, and happy you're enjoying the game :) I usually tell people to get used to the base game (and it's dlc) before moving to the more complex 'modded gameplay'. Hope all goes well and that you have fun!
More high quality vids pls 🫡
For sure :) glad you enjoyed!
You been to busy to record a series? Iv watched them all so far.
These videos take time, still working on getting more efficient though.
More edited content on the way, but if you're referring to un-edited playthroughs, then that's something I'm gonna come back to in a little bit :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman it’s always fun watching how other people struggle to do the same thing as me. I also recommend 2 games that have a similar (why does the ring hate my guts) feeling. War tales and bannerlord to a smaller scale. Mount and blade is more just surviving to mid game and getting back at the bs system. War tales is sucking me in just like battle brothers did when the southern states dlc dropped.
48:20. Who attacks 4 times?
Your dagger bro with 3 kills, I think the trait is to make a bro an assassin
Haha :) Dagger bros are fun and maaaaybe could use this trait better than others.
The trait could be there to allow an extra point(s) to give you enough to "footwork" out of danger? (super assasin vibes for sure!)
Now do the same tier list but based on how good the skills are for rp 😆
Ahh yes, the challenges of RP haha!
Charming = s-tier as charisma characters always break tabletop games
Clumsy = comedic relief, and we all know insecure = just a part of everyone's backstory :P
hey um, can you guys tell me where i can get the Legends mod that compatible with the new dlc?
I have a guide video that explains how to download Legends mod.
Always best to download the latest version from their discord channel :)
Vala runes Top Tier list next?
never even seen the Invictus icon tbh
It's a pretty cool icon :)
We've gotten invictus once on stream before when grinding the arena, was a nice reward.
Traits with only positive effects ending in... "noty too bad" "bad". Yeah, seems to me the author didn't have the best of days doing this video. A 100% positive trait, no matter how small the bonus is, cannot be "bad", it's a very simple, undeniable logic. Claiming otherwise is just bollocks.
You should do a perk teir list
team player gives nice events though
The single event it gives isn't super fancy imo. +1 Resolve (for 50% of your bros), 50day cooldown, and no bro can get it twice. Still not enough to convince me sadly :(
wait how is Tiny better than swift? is it becaues of the melee defence?
Yup, thats correct. Melee defence is a super important stat in BB and Legends mod.
Ranged defence is almost useless (except you can put it on ranged bros to help 'counter-snipe')
Swift :)
I say good sir, no :P
''Lucky'' is a better skill then like 12 of the skills you put in D-Tier. Lets say we got 2 average bro's, stats are exactly the same, yours got Clubfoot/Bleeder or any of the fears, and mine has got lucky. Who's got the better bro?
Try using the mortar mod
The mortar is a fun one :) definitely recommend
Can you do Legends mod?
This traits tier-list was for Legends mod specifically :)
Oops I mean perks for Legends mod!
Isn't eunuch missing from the list?
Eunuch is a background, not a trait :)
@@TheIndomitableSnowman Of Course!
44:19 😂
Haha :) Glad you agree! Embrace the better traits
Now do this for the perks
Hopefully not tooo far in the future :) (but dang there's a lot of perks haha!)
Doesn't huge have +10% melee damage?
How can u control what traits u get and such
you cant, they are random. Maybe possibly some can be gained/lost by events but thats it.
@@Canaris3ye tought so, cause 2h hammer axe axe is so rare, pole hammer and poleaxe plus polearm game is shitting them, but i want 2h variants and i am not getting them
Please do series on wartales
Wartales is a great game :) definitely enjoyed streaming it and maybe one day I'll be able to add it to the YT channel (ty for the suggestion)
pls give me a new video "tier list perks bros" great video.
That will be a big one for sure, and on my to-do list (definitely more complicated than a traits tier list, but definitely an important guide for the community) :)
What I read when I saw the title:
Snowman's Trans Tier List
Haha, I think that one is on you :P
But glad you're keen regardless :)
Why are you de ranking free stats?
Explained the reasons in the vid :)
Not super useful & a personal opinion that they give a false sense of power/strength to a bro