Hand Tool Restoration - Kraeuter 356-5 1/2 Slip Joint Combination Pliers

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  • @markrandall1456
    @markrandall1456 4 роки тому +4

    Wire to fiber.
    There was no sanding.
    Great ‘cause you don’t
    Eliminate the branding.
    Chuck wants the new Flitz.
    And you won’t budge.
    You may need to appoint
    Mrs. M. as the Judge.
    That chrome plating:
    It gave you a fit.
    The shine from the Flitz
    I think, overcame it.
    Those pliers look good.
    There is no doubt.
    I think you took
    A very good route.
    Thanks for the fun. 🤠

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      I always look forward to your poems! I make sure I share them with my wife and daughter!

  • @ScoutCrafter
    @ScoutCrafter 4 роки тому +12

    I also hate flaking chrome! It's always a nightmare to deal with. 😃👍

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      A viewer suggested heating the part and then submerging in cold water to pop off the plating. I may have to try that...

    • @TylrVncnt
      @TylrVncnt 4 роки тому

      357magdad - that’s an interesting idea! Just proceed delicately (re:”heating”) in case you got a high carbon “hardened steel” (most* pliers utilize these steels, especially useful for the jaws and/or cutting edges) under a chrome plating, because heating the tool (esp the gripping jaws/cutting edges) can and likely will affect the tools deliberate temper ( *IF* it is in fact a hi-carbon steel..)
      BUT, the method you (or a viewer?) described seems pretttty similar to heat treating anyways haha! It’s just something to be aware of (sorry if this info is rudimentary to you!) and consider playing around with heat treating (heat-quench-temper) on your tools and in your shop! Can definitely (and *easily* ) be done at home mostly with a torch, especially for smaller tools like pliers and where you only want a specific feature/part deliberately hardened!
      Could be an interesting video series too ;) I’m getting ahead of myself! I really enjoy your content btw!
      Cheers

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      @@TylrVncnt I have some videos about a little forge I made and a couple knife making projects using it.

    • @DeeegerD
      @DeeegerD 4 роки тому +1

      And a health hazard in dust form.

  • @timothynewkirk2654
    @timothynewkirk2654 4 роки тому +1

    Lovely little pliers!...Indeed!
    ...Newk from Kentucky

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks Newk! I've got a couple Kraeuters and they are quality tools!

  • @Resto-Rob
    @Resto-Rob 4 роки тому +2

    Good looking pliers. The fiber wheels work well.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING 4 роки тому +1

    Looks good Daddy!! The lil' pits give it some character!!☺

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks RoadKing! The pitting is pretty superficial. The jaws and cutter are in great shape. I think these will become an everyday user for me.

  • @alexstools
    @alexstools 4 роки тому +2

    The shine from the fiber wheel is pretty impressive! I would never have guessed the pitting was this deep at first glance. Great video, thanks!!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Alex! Some of the corrosion worked its way under the plating.

  • @waynemiracle8928
    @waynemiracle8928 4 роки тому

    That ol Chuck is such a hoot!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      We have ScoutCrafter to thank for Chuck. Chuck became "part of the act" for his birdhouse challenge.

    • @waynemiracle8928
      @waynemiracle8928 4 роки тому

      357magdad Now it all makes sense! Because ScoutCrafter is a hoot himself! 🤣

  • @christopherharrylang7424
    @christopherharrylang7424 4 роки тому

    Nice work. Those pliers have a lot of character.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks CHL! Not as much character as Chuck!

  • @ivanstiles7030
    @ivanstiles7030 Рік тому

    Everytime I think I've seen all your videos another one pops up on my feed😂 Nice work Magdad. They have a lot of earned character but they cleaned up well.

  • @tristanbarnett6271
    @tristanbarnett6271 4 роки тому

    Wow I'm very impressed that you did know hand sanding and yet you made them look not brand new but in a stable condition with a look a lot better than they did I love restoring pliers like that I did a similar video but I did a lot of sanding with a flat disk

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Normally I would have started off on the belt sander, but I wanted to see what the fiber wheels could do by themselves.

  • @patjohnson3100
    @patjohnson3100 4 роки тому +1

    Very good restoration. Given the rust and pitting, this is an excellent job. Based on the grip design, my guesstimate is that the pliers are about 70 years old. Thank you for rescuing these quality Kreauter pliers. They look great and are more pleasant to use.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Pat! I might make these my every day users!

  • @donscottvansandt4139
    @donscottvansandt4139 2 роки тому

    They look great! Even though the pits were still there.. I like how the rust staining was not ..

  • @MrDoeboy356
    @MrDoeboy356 4 роки тому +1

    Chuck is becoming a bit of a prankster.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      Chuck is a pain in the ass, but he's family.

  • @jackthompson2132
    @jackthompson2132 4 роки тому

    Nice job 👍🏻. I never thought about citric acid. I use the old vinegar and salt trick and it’s slow also. Great video and learned something new as usual. Thank you!!
    Oh, tell chuck not to get to excited, that tube is about gone 😃

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Jack! I keep tellin' Chuck to be patient - a little Flitz goes a long way

  • @TomGunnTools
    @TomGunnTools 4 роки тому

    Another successful restoration. Not much you can do with that much pitting. Nice serviceable pair of pliers now!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks Tom! The jaws and cutter are in great shape! These are going to be everyday users now!

  • @glengrossnickle4985
    @glengrossnickle4985 4 роки тому +1

    Good job. I think I have a pair just like yours. Not sure about the maker. I will check. They are in some things from my father-in-law. You got me interested. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Glen! Cleaning up old tools is fun!

  • @lv_woodturner3899
    @lv_woodturner3899 4 роки тому +2

    The pliers cleaned up well. As you said, the markings on the handle are unusual. They look good.
    Plating is nice when it holds up, but a pain when it needs to be removed.
    The citric acid would have taken off the plating over time, but as others said it would also have consumed some of the metal.
    My inexpensive alternative to Evapo-Rust is oxalic acid, also called Wood Bleach. In most hardware stores in the wood finish aisle. Like citric acid, it is slow working. Cheap to make a large volume for larger parts. A few tablespoons in a gallon.
    Chuck is really eager to get into the new tub of flitz. LOL
    Dave.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks LV! I'll have to look for the oxalic acid.

  • @johnfix1
    @johnfix1 4 роки тому +2

    I agree that type plating is tough. I have been able to remove with the belt sander but it was still difficult. You did the best you could with all the pitting.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks John! I would usually use the belt sander on something like this, but I wanted to see what the fiber wheels could do on their own.

  • @oncewaslost1982
    @oncewaslost1982 4 роки тому

    Let's get magdad a couple hundred more subscribers so he can become a UA-cam partner and get paid for his phenomenal content!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I am monetized, but more subscribers would be nice!

  • @DavidPlass
    @DavidPlass 4 роки тому +1

    I'm amazed how shiny it came out after the first fiber wheel! I inherited a pair of pliers from my MIL's father with that same handle pattern.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      You can tell by the sparks that those fiber wheels can be aggressive!

    • @DavidPlass
      @DavidPlass 4 роки тому +1

      @@357magdad But... so shiny! I thought sanding makes it dull.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      @@DavidPlass I've been able to achieve a near mirror finish by sanding down to 800 or 1000 grit and then polishing with Flitz.

  • @mike20169
    @mike20169 4 роки тому

    Back in service!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      They are on my tool rack!

  • @AaronBelknap
    @AaronBelknap 4 роки тому +1

    Those Kraeuter's look great! I love the fiber wheel. I had to clean some really carbon coated, chunks on some SBC valves and it took it off no problem and clean!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Aaron! The fiber wheels should be a good addition to my little shop!

  • @MBhammer89
    @MBhammer89 4 роки тому

    I brought back Needle nose pliers back to life there were rusted shut they're super good now i though you would like to know because you gave me the idea to do it 😜

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Saving old rusty tools is fun! If you get a chance, send me some photos of your pliers! I like to see what people are working on!
      357mdad@gmail.com

  • @ydocproductions5593
    @ydocproductions5593 4 роки тому

    Those pliers look great now, and the fiber wheels have already paid for themselves. It’s too bad about the deep putting, but they still cut nicely!👍

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      The pliers work great! Kraeuter made quality tools. I think these will be my new everyday users!

  • @19672701
    @19672701 4 роки тому +1

    Looked good,I think I have some of those pliars. I bet that new tub of Flitz would put some shine to that nice old grinder..I'm sure Chuck approves!;)

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Kraeuter tools are good quality.

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP 4 роки тому

    Came out nice.

  • @MadStiles
    @MadStiles 4 роки тому

    Not to shabby buddy good job!

  • @kizlok73
    @kizlok73 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Mag good job , next tool have been brought back to life 👍👌

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks! They are a nice pair of pliers!

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 4 роки тому +1

    Those turned out pretty nice. Plated tools can be a real booger.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      I usually stay away from the plated stuff, but these little pliers were too cool to pass up!

  • @ArmandoLoni
    @ArmandoLoni 4 роки тому +5

    Definitely a lot better looking, now...... 👍🏻

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Armando! It's a good little pair of pliers!

  • @717UT
    @717UT 2 роки тому

    This is great. I have a plan for a gift for a mechanic friend of mine who has talked about having a pair of "Sunday" pliers with a custom leather sheath. Been trying to find out if I can get a set of pliers extra shiney.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching Max!

  • @Rusty_ok
    @Rusty_ok 4 роки тому +1

    Wow those turned out great. I have a Kreuter 5 1/2 that is kind of eaten up with rust like yours was. I will apply some joes shop wire wheel and see if I can get mine a sharp looking as yours.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Give it the wheel Rusty Gun!

  • @tooladdict7463
    @tooladdict7463 4 роки тому +2

    Another one rescued great job :-)

  • @adude7050
    @adude7050 4 роки тому

    I have the same size set love the design on the handles.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Kraeuter made some quality tools!

  • @stevewalker7822
    @stevewalker7822 4 роки тому

    Nice work!

  • @frankg3072
    @frankg3072 4 роки тому +1

    Nice cleanup. I guess you’re hooked on fiber wheels now, they do a great job!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Frank! I'm still experimenting with how best to use the fiber wheels.

  • @shannonelliott6116
    @shannonelliott6116 4 роки тому

    I just purchased one of these wheels per your recommendations...at first, I saw nothing better about it compared to wire wheel and going through the buffing wheel grits...but after a second try, I think you may have something here...nice option to have available..but it does create heat!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Joe's Shop is the guy who made everyone buy these wheels! I find that I have to wear gloves - the parts do get warm.

  • @leebrewer1190
    @leebrewer1190 4 роки тому

    I do not know what is wrong. I have been subscribed and had the bell for all new vids on forever, butI am never alerted. Nice looking pliers now - love those fiber wheels!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks Lee! I try to put a video up every Sunday, so keep checking in!

  • @Everythings_Adjustable
    @Everythings_Adjustable 4 роки тому

    Nice work Mate 👍

  • @davidcoats1037
    @davidcoats1037 4 роки тому +1

    Nice one Magdad. I was wondering about the citric acid and the 320 grit fiber wheel. Thank you for the informative video. Take care. 😃👍🏼

  • @restorecreate
    @restorecreate 4 роки тому

    Nice job mate,as always,why don't you put a buffer wheel at the bench grinder,i think you will have better result with polishing.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      My Flitz doesn't like the high speed of the buffing wheel on the grinder.

  • @bkind2182
    @bkind2182 4 роки тому +1

    As usual, nice job!

  • @scroungasworkshop4663
    @scroungasworkshop4663 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Magdad, great video. Be warned, those fibre wheels become addictive after a while. I use them on nearly every job. I have very good results with electrolysis and I have several old tools I want to use to experiment with removing the old plating using it. I’ll let you know how I get on.
    Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Reversing the electro-plating would be a good experiment!

  • @genkaijapan
    @genkaijapan 4 роки тому

    Very cool!

  • @TheSuperwrenchGarage
    @TheSuperwrenchGarage 4 роки тому +1

    Looks good .... I am also not a fan of the nickel or chrome plating when it is damaged. Not sure what the downside to stripping it with a sanding belt. I would also worry about airborne metal particles and inhaling them ....no bueno

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Normally I would use the belt sander, but I wanted to see what the fiber wheels could do by themselves.

  • @rawbacon
    @rawbacon 4 роки тому +2

    Serious pitting but the jaws and slip joint mechanism look really good........The fiber wheel seems to blend and smooth without taking off much metal.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I was impressed with the sparks coming off of the wheel! I'm still experimenting with how to best use the fiber wheels.

  • @steve.b.23
    @steve.b.23 4 роки тому

    If you live in a hard water area citric acid works well as a descaler. I've used it many a time to clean my kettle, pots and pans and mugs that end up with stains that I've previously had to shift with gunpowder. Unlike white vinegar, you don't need to rinse it several times to get rid of the smell.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the tip! The citric acid does have the advantage of not smelling like vinegar.

  • @larrycroft470
    @larrycroft470 4 роки тому +2

    Mag dad another great video thank you!!! Can you link your fiber grinding wheels - I am having a tough time locating them.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Larry! I got them on Amazon. I included screenshots of the Amazon pages at the end of my fiber wheel video.

    • @larrycroft470
      @larrycroft470 4 роки тому +2

      @@357magdad Thank you sir and please keep these great videos coming. I have saved several of them to learn from so I can restore some of my tools.

  • @gator83261
    @gator83261 4 роки тому

    Nice I like the no sanding.

  • @tonylenge424
    @tonylenge424 4 роки тому +2

    The fiber wheel look good. Do you find them more forgiving or less aggressive then sand paper of the same grit? Like the handle design. Thanks

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      I think the fiber wheels polish the part more than the 1 x 30 belt sander does. I think the "grits" given for the fiber wheels are approximations. The 6" wheel can get into areas I can't reach as well with the belt sander.

  • @lord.onk99
    @lord.onk99 4 роки тому

    Great.

  • @johnmclaurin
    @johnmclaurin 4 роки тому +1

    Considering how deep the pitting was, do you think sanding would have made that much difference? Good video!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      The nice think about this pair of pliers is that the maker's mark is deep. I could have removed some material with the belt sander without losing the markings. A lot of times the maker's mark limits how much material I can remove.

  • @GregAlanEdwardsEmmanuelRidge
    @GregAlanEdwardsEmmanuelRidge 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome job considering how badly they were pitted!

  • @jamesjr5500
    @jamesjr5500 4 роки тому +1

    I used vinegar once on a plane lever cap that had nickle plating it took some off but ate into the metal too.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I've tried vinegar. I was hoping I could make the citric acid solution stronger than the vinegar.

  • @uktony1525
    @uktony1525 4 роки тому

    As always a really nice job. I was interested in the citric acid bath as Evaporust costs $40 for a gallon in the UK so I only use it sparingly. Normally use vinegar but may try citric acid.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Tony! I was attracted to the citric acid powder because I could control the "acidity" of the solution. Plus the vinegar stinks.

  • @joenj383
    @joenj383 7 місяців тому

    Nice restoration. My dad had Kraeuter 156-6 USA made 6.5 inch slip joint pliers in real good shape. Any idea what year range they were made?

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! Check out alloy-artifacts for manufacturing date info.

  • @larrydemaar409
    @larrydemaar409 4 роки тому

    Did you coat the pliers with anything to protect it when you were done? Looks great.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I use Johnson's paste wax.

  • @davebuchanan9761
    @davebuchanan9761 4 роки тому

    Have you ever tried the flitz on a bench top grinder with a buffing wheel?

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +2

      The Flitz tends to overheat. The solid polishing compounds work better on the buffing wheel.

    • @davebuchanan9761
      @davebuchanan9761 4 роки тому +2

      Thank you!!!

  • @not2fast4u2c
    @not2fast4u2c 4 роки тому +1

    It is a shame the rust ate at them that bad ...If I wanted to take the chrome off of like a 50's bumper ..An old school trick was they would burn it off with a torch and spray with cold water..I could not recommend to do it since it would be so much Toxic fumes coming off it

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I'm gonna have to try that next time - outside of course!

  • @mrbenmall
    @mrbenmall 4 роки тому

    Is that grinder motor a full-speed motor?
    Nice job on the pliers.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks Ben! The name plate says 3450 rpm.

    • @mrbenmall
      @mrbenmall 4 роки тому

      @@357magdad Interesting. I recall Joe warning that I should get a slower motor for the fiber wheel. Something about it being very dangerous. Not exactly sure what the danger is, but I'm just passing that along. Use whatever caution you deem necessary. My motor is 1750. I guess you can get the work done twice as fast.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      @@mrbenmall Seems to run OK. The adapter bushings I got seem to have the fiber wheels running smooth and true. It doesn't feel scary to me, but I might just not know any better. LOL

  • @hd3_824
    @hd3_824 4 роки тому

    Another great video. Thank you. When you were done, did you coat the pliers with paste wax or mineral oil or something to prevent rusting? I'm having a hard time keeping my restored tools rust free, probably because of the salty air here in RI. Any advice? Thanks.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I use Johnson's paste wax, but my stuff is in my basement. One of the CLP's used for firearms might work better for you. BreakFree CLP might be worth a try (check the fishing/hunting section of your Walmart)

  • @rickhammar1636
    @rickhammar1636 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder if that citric acid would work better with a little electricity.....as in an electrolysis bath.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I could wait for a lightening storm on a night with a full moon.....
      Just kidding! You're right, there is probably a way to reverse the plating.

  • @charlessmall4075
    @charlessmall4075 4 роки тому

    I wonder who really made the pliers ? I own two pairs of Proto pliers with the same anti slip grip pattern on the handles. J.P. Danielson made pliers for Proto using that design.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I'm not sure how the companies might be related.

  • @markk7509
    @markk7509 3 роки тому

    Electrolysis with take that plating off in a snap.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching! The plating comes off pretty quickly with my 1 x 30 belt sander! I wanted to see what the fiber wheels could do by themselves.

  • @scottlaflair4995
    @scottlaflair4995 4 роки тому

    I wonder if they would have looked just as good if you didn't use the citric acid first.

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      In my experience the wire wheel does a decent job of rust removal. The baths like evapo-rust, vinegar, citric acid etc are handy for getting into spots you can't reach with the wheel.

  • @lotsabirds
    @lotsabirds 4 роки тому

    Did you ever flitz a musical instrument?

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      I have not. I bet it would work well! I think think I would polish by hand with a microfiber towel rather than the Dremel.

    • @lotsabirds
      @lotsabirds 4 роки тому

      @@357magdad yeah, I've used other things that work well. I want to try flitz on a trombone carcass that I have coming in. Thanks!

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      @@lotsabirds Let me know how it turns out!

  • @DeeegerD
    @DeeegerD 4 роки тому

    Should have sanded ;)

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching! Normally I would have sanded an item like this, but I wanted to see what the fiber wheels were capable of.

  • @williamlee1429
    @williamlee1429 4 роки тому

    unfortunately plating gets put on by electricity and pretty much has to be removed by electricity acids just won’t do it

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      The citric acid will come in handy for rust removal and I recently tried "sharpening" an old file with it with some success.

    • @williamlee1429
      @williamlee1429 4 роки тому +1

      357magdad Thank goodness most of my old tools don’t have any plating on them. Just rust. citric acid is perfect for that

  • @larryborkstrom3580
    @larryborkstrom3580 4 роки тому

    It's look a a lot better too bad the putting was so bad

    • @357magdad
      @357magdad  4 роки тому +1

      The good thing is that the pitting is superficial - the jaws and cutter are in great shape.