Awesome video, super informative. For anyone out there that already has an acoustic violin and can't swing the extra $800-1500 for a quality electric violin buy a METAL mute. Rubber mutes are around 75dB, metal knocks this down to the mid 60s with a full acoustic while still giving plenty of clarity. Metal violin mutes are ~$7 on Amazon so your wallet will thank you! Otherwise electric violins are sweet in their own right, outside of also being a viable cohabitation practice option.
Very helpful comparison. Ironically the Yamaha Silent Violin does sound really loud compared to the other ones. I always thought the Yamaha Electric Violin would be much louder than the Silent whilst having better sound. But it seems the YEV is better sounding and at the same time as silent as the YSV.
Thanks for a really informative post - it was also really useful to compare the sound and playability of the various different models. Have you had any experience playing the Hidersine models, HEV2 & HEV3?
Really appreciate that you make these videos for buyers to make an informed decision. I'm just as curious to know what's the average dB for a hollow acoustic violin with practice mute like Artino when played at maximum. My neighbors are a bit sensitive to noise. I'd like to know which one is better for quiet practice: an electric violin like Yamaha YEV-104 or an acoustic violin with Artino practice mute.
So an acoustic with a heavy metal mute is pretty close to a solid body electric from a "sound in the room" standpoint. The problem is that they sound like hot garbage. With an electric, you can put on some headphones and actually hear what you're playing. If you turn on your TV and put it at the volume you normally watch, then practice your violin, chances are, they won't even hear you. (This is another reason to use headphones with your electric. You get to hear yourself and your neighbors have no idea you're practicing.)
He was just kidding, I am sure he will do a video explaining all types of mutes for violins, explaining materials, mechanical properties, which preserves more the wave form, which are more silent, etc. It will be an amazing video, I don’t know if he has a video about that
Because 5-string electric violins are more popular than 4-string electric violins. In fact, 6-string electric violins are very quickly becoming the standard for advanced players.
I wonder about my cello for that reason. Low freqs. I have a mute but I mainly practice during to day rather than late at night. So far my neighbors are tolerant. 😜🎻
Actually, a 20 db difference equates to 10 times, 10 db is 3.162 times (roughly). Consider 10^(x/20), where x is the difference in decibel. This is the correct conversion.
This is true for power. The human perception of loudness (sound "volume") is roughly logarithmic, so an increase of 10dB is perceived as about twice as loud.
This is true in the physics sense, but not in the human perception sense, oddly enough. In the human perception sense 10db difference would be perceived as 2ce as loud.
There is 1 factor you missed, frequency and how it travels. Some frequencies travel through walls very easily and others don't but that depends on the walls too.
So since there isn't a silent violin it's definitely not the instrument for me. I mean a keyboard is actually silent. Strange a violin can't match that.
@@UnknownUnitW10 It's not really 'strange' a violin can't match a keyboard; you didn't use an apples-to-apples comparison. One is a physical instrument and the other is an electronic device that is mimicking a real instrument. Your electric keyboard has no physical strings inside that are resonating with each note you play (unlike a real piano)- only pads and pressure sensors approximating the note you pressed and playing a prerecorded sound based on pressure, sustain, etc. but not the 'actual' note YOU played. The sounds are recorded in a studio or synthesized and imported to the keyboard to be triggered when certain conditions are met, meaning there is a finite number of variability verses the infinite number of sounds including the frequencies between/around them a physical instrument can make based on conditions. An apples-to-apples comparison would be between some hybrid piano that uses strings and electric pickups vs an electric violin, which would also make more noise than your keyboard but would give the variation a strung instrument can give verses a keyboard with a predetermined sound bank/sound generating algorithm. Side note/unpopular opinion: I'm not hating on keyboards, I play one myself. But they're not the real thing and as such shouldn't be compared to the real thing. They're great instruments in their own right (for example the ability to hook up to a DAW) and they're great to practice on and have 99% transferability to the real thing depending on the features/quality. But yeah, the instrument your keyboard is based on isn't silent either, and your keyboard is no replacement for a grand piano.
I really think there's no better channel for electric violin fans than this one
Thank you very much! That's a great comparison!
This is the most helpful video I’ve ever seen on this topic! Thank you.
Awesome video, super informative. For anyone out there that already has an acoustic violin and can't swing the extra $800-1500 for a quality electric violin buy a METAL mute. Rubber mutes are around 75dB, metal knocks this down to the mid 60s with a full acoustic while still giving plenty of clarity. Metal violin mutes are ~$7 on Amazon so your wallet will thank you!
Otherwise electric violins are sweet in their own right, outside of also being a viable cohabitation practice option.
Super helpful, thanks for this!
Great information my Maestro !! Thank you !
Inspiring and helpful video!
Very useful information! Thanks!
Very helpful comparison. Ironically the Yamaha Silent Violin does sound really loud compared to the other ones. I always thought the Yamaha Electric Violin would be much louder than the Silent whilst having better sound. But it seems the YEV is better sounding and at the same time as silent as the YSV.
Thanks for a really informative post - it was also really useful to compare the sound and playability of the various different models. Have you had any experience playing the Hidersine models, HEV2 & HEV3?
Really appreciate that you make these videos for buyers to make an informed decision. I'm just as curious to know what's the average dB for a hollow acoustic violin with practice mute like Artino when played at maximum. My neighbors are a bit sensitive to noise. I'd like to know which one is better for quiet practice: an electric violin like Yamaha YEV-104 or an acoustic violin with Artino practice mute.
So an acoustic with a heavy metal mute is pretty close to a solid body electric from a "sound in the room" standpoint. The problem is that they sound like hot garbage. With an electric, you can put on some headphones and actually hear what you're playing.
If you turn on your TV and put it at the volume you normally watch, then practice your violin, chances are, they won't even hear you. (This is another reason to use headphones with your electric. You get to hear yourself and your neighbors have no idea you're practicing.)
Thanx very informative
Good video, very informative and helpful. Thx
Ok, but wouldn't it be fair and more complete to also compare an acoustic with different mutes?
Maybe. I just don't own any. And during a quarantine, I couldn't exactly go to a violin shop and get them.
@@ElectricViolinShop all of these instruments are your own collection?? It looks like a retail shop wall.
@@j3ah0o We ARE a retail shop. Electricviolinshop.com
@@j3ah0o www.electricviolinshop.com ;)
He was just kidding, I am sure he will do a video explaining all types of mutes for violins, explaining materials, mechanical properties, which preserves more the wave form, which are more silent, etc. It will be an amazing video, I don’t know if he has a video about that
What If you put a mute on an electronic violin?
Thank you for the vid. Please try YSV 104 if you have
Why do some of these violins have 5 strings? Great video, thank you.
Because 5-string electric violins are more popular than 4-string electric violins.
In fact, 6-string electric violins are very quickly becoming the standard for advanced players.
I wonder about my cello for that reason. Low freqs. I have a mute but I mainly practice during to day rather than late at night. So far my neighbors are tolerant. 😜🎻
How does the YSV130 violin compare to these models, volume wise as a silent violin. I have a chance to get one .
The SV-130 is discontinued. But it's going to be pretty similar to the other ones.
@@ElectricViolinShop
I just picked up an YSV130 from a music store where it was used as a rental.
Thank you so much. This is super helpful!
Now I know which one I should get for my first electric violin
Which one ?
Is a Yamaha SV 200 good for beginners?
Yes
Actually, a 20 db difference equates to 10 times, 10 db is 3.162 times (roughly). Consider 10^(x/20), where x is the difference in decibel. This is the correct conversion.
This is true for power. The human perception of loudness (sound "volume") is roughly logarithmic, so an increase of 10dB is perceived as about twice as loud.
This is true in the physics sense, but not in the human perception sense, oddly enough. In the human perception sense 10db difference would be perceived as 2ce as loud.
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There is 1 factor you missed, frequency and how it travels.
Some frequencies travel through walls very easily and others don't but that depends on the walls too.
ok .
NO! IT'S NOT QUIET AT ALL!!!
Shhhh.. You're yelling.
So since there isn't a silent violin it's definitely not the instrument for me. I mean a keyboard is actually silent. Strange a violin can't match that.
Believe it or not, your keyboard isn't silent, either.
@@ElectricViolinShop You know exactly what I meant. No musical sounds are produced only the faint sound of physically pressing a key down.
@@UnknownUnitW10 This one is acutally silent: thumbs.static-thomann.de/thumb/padthumb600x600/pics/bdb/423107/12538962_800.jpg
@@UnknownUnitW10 It's not really 'strange' a violin can't match a keyboard; you didn't use an apples-to-apples comparison. One is a physical instrument and the other is an electronic device that is mimicking a real instrument. Your electric keyboard has no physical strings inside that are resonating with each note you play (unlike a real piano)- only pads and pressure sensors approximating the note you pressed and playing a prerecorded sound based on pressure, sustain, etc. but not the 'actual' note YOU played. The sounds are recorded in a studio or synthesized and imported to the keyboard to be triggered when certain conditions are met, meaning there is a finite number of variability verses the infinite number of sounds including the frequencies between/around them a physical instrument can make based on conditions. An apples-to-apples comparison would be between some hybrid piano that uses strings and electric pickups vs an electric violin, which would also make more noise than your keyboard but would give the variation a strung instrument can give verses a keyboard with a predetermined sound bank/sound generating algorithm.
Side note/unpopular opinion: I'm not hating on keyboards, I play one myself. But they're not the real thing and as such shouldn't be compared to the real thing. They're great instruments in their own right (for example the ability to hook up to a DAW) and they're great to practice on and have 99% transferability to the real thing depending on the features/quality. But yeah, the instrument your keyboard is based on isn't silent either, and your keyboard is no replacement for a grand piano.