I have a Hellcat, and I also have two FN Reflex's with a 3rd on order. I still love my Hellcat, but the Reflex has replaced it as my EDC.🤷♂ I shoot the Reflex better than the Hellcat. Great comparison of the two.👍
im glad you got a good FN Reflex. I also own both the hellcat and reflex but my reflex has horrible feeding issues and shoots low left. I can only run 1 type of ammo through the FN. In my opinion the hellcat is leaps and bounds better than my reflex.
@@kevinchristie3225 Did you ever send it back? That sucks, but it also seems odd to compare a lemon of one gun to a good example of another. Even the Hellcat has lemons. All firearm companies make lemons.
My original walther pps .40 I personally carried for 10 years has a dual feed ramp, and it absolutely disliked projectiles with exposed lead or rubber/plastic tips. Walther PPS was replaced with Bodyguard 380 and in 2012 which was replaced with Sig 365x in early 2023. Recently the FN Reflex was purchased and now stands above the rest.
I've had 3 Reflexes (Long story) and all of them had problems. I bought it to replace my G43. I love the FN grip, I love the sights, and the trigger is pretty good from the factory. All of them had failure to feed problems. One would have a soft strike about every 3rd round. We tried 5 different types of ammo and 9 different magazines. We put about 200 rounds through each gun. All of them would shoot low left no matter who was shooting it. I put Holosun 507k red dots on 2 of them and I had the elevation up maxed out and it still wouldn't bring the POI up to POA. I put a laser bore sight cartridge in them and it would not line up with the iron sights. It showed low left on all of them. The same laser bore sight lined up perfectly in all of my other handguns. I sold 2 of them and the 3rd one has been at FN since September for repair, in hopes that I can at least have one good one. That was 3 months ago and it's still not fixed.
damn I bought mine and it’s been running flawlessly I noticed it jammed a couple of times when first shooting around 200 rounds but once I cleaned and oiled hasn’t had a problem
@@phwn Yes. All of them. I got my Reflex back from FN and it still doesn't work. They fixed nothing. They've pissed me off with their refusal to accept any responsibility for the problems with this gun. I'm getting the word out to as many people as possible.
@@thewalkindude7716Seems like a nightmare. I was looking at the Reflex, Hellcat, 509c, or p365 xmacro. What would you reccomend out of these as a daily carry? i am relatively small and need it to not poke out a ton.
Got my fn reflex a month ago. I love how it carries and this is my first micro and it is difficult to shoot. However, the micro has taught me to be abetter shooter. After a ton of practice, the fn reflex shoots very wella dn i love the trigger as a defensive trigger. Not to mention the fde just looks great. This is a great gun and im super happy with my buy
Bought a Hellcat Pro, loved it so I picked up a FDE OSP, I LOVE the OSP version. I had heard that it was “Snappy’ but I didn’t find that to be the case at all. I did try an FN Reflex. Seemed well constructed, felt good, but the trigger was too light for me to be comfortable with as a carry pistol. Have you seen the new Ammo Federal Just announced . They say it was designed along with Springfield for the Hellcat. It’s a 124gr Federal “ Punch “ round.
At one point, I lived about 30 minutes away from the CZ location in Kansas. Always wanted to run by there and gawk at the place. Thought applying for a job there (How cool would that be??) too. But kept moving further and further away.
Another solid comparison. Looking into both of those, and the 365. My brother has had a 365 for over 5 years and pocket carry’s it daily with no issues. I’ve been sporting the 238 for years in the pocket and iwb. I’ve tried larger guns, but I always seem to go to large. I honestly wish CZ would cram the p10s down this small with that capacity 😂. Love that gun, but it prints too much for me and it’s not a pocket 9. Thanks again for the great videos
I can’t break into regularly carrying micros, love my shield plus and 43x though. I carry a px4 compact more frequently and have even thought of picking up an Sig 229…weird but I found comfort in fatter guns after getting hooked on your 26/27 vids. All about mileage variance.
After purchasing my edc kimber micro 9, all metal mini 1911, i tight that was it, i did have issues with misfiring, but Kimber service did a great job and corrected the issue, shots better with higher grain than 115, so i tested the fn reflex at my range, and grip and trigger pull just jumped right out to me, it just felt great in my hand.. and i want going to pick one up because of the polymer features but it's all about how it feels and how it shoots.. no problems with the lower left POI issues, thank God.. Been reading other comments about the lower left issues but mine shoots fine..great video comparison, didn't like the hellcat, just too snappy for me.the fn reflex grip and trigger pull won me over...
CR920 vs P365 Love both the CR920 elite and CR920P for summer, sweatpants and sometimes basketball shorts. I always wondered what if I went sig p365 series instead of shadow systems. Maybe a decent video idea if you haven’t already. 10 round flush fit G43 size on shadow 10 round similar size on P365.
I started carry with a glock 19 sized firearm, the fn 509 c tac, then picked up a hellcat. Tried to carry it, I had nothing but problems from the get go, couldn't find a holster I liked. Then I started having issues with the gun within 500 rounds. I've had to send my hellcat twice back to factory. Before it was fixed. My carry gun as of now is my cz p09 and fn 509 c tac.
I will say though I don't get people saying the hellcat recoils more than the sig p365. I've shot both recoil feels the exact same and the hellcat shoots irons more accurately for me as well
Have two reflex’s and two hellcats . Reflex is my favorite one had failure to feed 3 x within 200 rounds . Now broken in have shot another 500 rounds all different kinds of ammo no more failure to feed . Fn says it takes 400 round break In period .
Is there any red or green dot Optics that will sit on the Hellcat without the need of a plate that have multiple reticle options? I'm getting the Hellcat really soon and I'm looking to put an optic on it and I was really wanting a holosun 507k but it requires a plate which raises the optic enough where you cannot co-witness the iron sights from what I understand which is a bummer, and I'm having a hard time finding one with the correct shoe print that would also have multiple reticle options and Co Witnesses with the iron sights, but at the same time the dot does not land on the front sight but above it
Can you do a comparison between the reflex and mako? I know different size, but trigger, grip texture, feel in hand, the sight picture, recoil impulse, trigger guard for those of us up north who wear gloves too often, memory pads for fingers.
Great choice. I do like the hellcat better than the 43x because of its versatility and sizes but I love my 43x as well. You’ll love the reflex. A really solid package for a good price. Respect
Be very carful with considering purchasing the FN reflex. They have horrible feeding issues and low shooting issues. Go to the forums and listen to everyones testimony on the FN. They have some quality control issues at FN for sure. My reflex is horrible and I very much regret my purchase.
I like the hellcat but most would prefer the fn! My fn has just over 3100 rounds Sn has been 100% reliable. My old black hellcat has 11k no problems. Respect
Can you put a grip extension on a 10rd mag in California? Not the extended mag clearly that’s illegal here, but I just want more grip so that way my pinky has somewhere to be. It’s my first gun.
Great video however you stated that the hellcat holds the most rounds than any micro it’s size. Last I check they are finally equal because they both can take a 17rd magazine. More so the CR920 is leading now that it holds a pro mag 32rd. IJS
I love my Hellcat. I almost dropped the 5 hundo on the FN Reflex but many reviews have kept me from doing so. I the FN works well for my girlfriend. That's what she has as her 1st CCW pistol.
I'm a Glock guy, but I'm gonna change it up for a sub compact 9mm. I've narrowed it down to the Reflex or the Hellcat. I'm leaning toward the FN right now.
I love my Hellcat and Hellcat Pro. Dropped an Apex trigger in both but my OG Hellcat is not optic ready. My pro had a Tlr7 light and Holosun. Currently my main carry but will carry The OG this evening when i go Out
How does the Reflex compare to the P365 or CSX? Is it as easy to rack as the CSX? What about accuracy and shootability? I love the P365 and its derivatives, but I'm also considering a Reflex. Would it be a good EDC choice for someone with small hands or hand strength/muscle rigidity issues?
They are both great guns. They feel the same, the fn shoots flatter and is less snappy but the hellcats I have ran have been amazing through a big round count. I’ve been carrying my FN Reflex a lot and shooting it. I’m used to the trigger and it’s a great handgun. I’m just a bit bias to the hellcats. I carried an Fn 503 for work for 3.5 years. It is one of the most reliable firearms I own and the reflex is going to be the same way.
I’m getting rid of my FN Reflex , I do not trust the FN Reflex no further than I can throw it at first the FN would not feed into battery , I shot at least 2000 rounds and not one time did it ever shoot the whole magazine before it jammed, not one time, I sent it back to FN and after 2 months I received it back but it would empty magazines but it shoots low and to the left and I have tried so many things to get it to shoot better , like I said I would not trust the Reflex, I’m in the process of trading it for a Hellcat.
I cross shopped these two firearms for a long time and finally went with the hellcat. The issues with the reflex shooting low left, and people saying the trigger is too light for a carry gun, I went with the hellcat. If the hellcat gets the sight issues ironed out I may purchase one, it’s a gorgeous gun
I think people arent shooting the reflex well at all. At first it shot low left for me as well. But when shooting the gun well and really having a proper grip, it shoots point of aim, point of impact for me.
@@AaronDefensive idk there’s a guy on here who put the gun in a vise pointed directly at the target and shot and it shot 6 or so times exactly in the same spot low and left. Professional shooters having this issue it’s the gun/sights
@@bronsondempsey7812 i replaced the rear sight with a cheap #8 sig rear sight. Worked perfectly fine. Although I get that a gun should come fine off the factory and one shouldnt have to replace rear sights just to shoot straight. FN fumbled that in QC. But as long as we get what works for us working, right?
One thing to keep in mind, after coming from a striker fired pistol. The FN Reflex is a hammer gun. Internal hammer. That's what causes that longer reset that Spn mentioned in the video. Handled one at a store and it's got a good feel to the trigger. So it seems like it's a pretty good system. It's just... different, if you've gotten used to primarily shooting striker fires.
I have a BLACK FN REFLEX MRD WITH AN HOLOSUN 507K. USING AN BLACK POINT TACTICAL WING IWB HOLSTER. Its my EDC.. I never had a problem with my REFLEX. I FOUND PEOPLE NEEDING MORE TRAINING BLAME THE TOOL. GET YOUR EGO OUT OF THE WAY. Micro guns are harder to shoot.Get training also no one talks about getting hand to hand defensive combat training.
I have a Hellcat, and I also have two FN Reflex's with a 3rd on order. I still love my Hellcat, but the Reflex has replaced it as my EDC.🤷♂ I shoot the Reflex better than the Hellcat.
Great comparison of the two.👍
I'm picking up my reflex up Tuesday I got the black one with red dot cut. I've heard those are hard to come by so I'm happy I got one.
@@eidtnaci Yes, I've been waiting for the black MRD a month or so now. 👍
im glad you got a good FN Reflex. I also own both the hellcat and reflex but my reflex has horrible feeding issues and shoots low left. I can only run 1 type of ammo through the FN. In my opinion the hellcat is leaps and bounds better than my reflex.
@@kevinchristie3225 Did you ever send it back? That sucks, but it also seems odd to compare a lemon of one gun to a good example of another. Even the Hellcat has lemons. All firearm companies make lemons.
My original walther pps .40 I personally carried for 10 years has a dual feed ramp, and it absolutely disliked projectiles with exposed lead or rubber/plastic tips. Walther PPS was replaced with Bodyguard 380 and in 2012 which was replaced with Sig 365x in early 2023. Recently the FN Reflex was purchased and now stands above the rest.
I've had 3 Reflexes (Long story) and all of them had problems. I bought it to replace my G43. I love the FN grip, I love the sights, and the trigger is pretty good from the factory. All of them had failure to feed problems. One would have a soft strike about every 3rd round. We tried 5 different types of ammo and 9 different magazines. We put about 200 rounds through each gun. All of them would shoot low left no matter who was shooting it. I put Holosun 507k red dots on 2 of them and I had the elevation up maxed out and it still wouldn't bring the POI up to POA. I put a laser bore sight cartridge in them and it would not line up with the iron sights. It showed low left on all of them. The same laser bore sight lined up perfectly in all of my other handguns. I sold 2 of them and the 3rd one has been at FN since September for repair, in hopes that I can at least have one good one. That was 3 months ago and it's still not fixed.
Good review 👍 I do like the hammer fire fn
damn I bought mine and it’s been running flawlessly I noticed it jammed a couple of times when first shooting around 200 rounds but once I cleaned and oiled hasn’t had a problem
did you copy and paste this from a hickok45 video?
@@phwn Yes. All of them. I got my Reflex back from FN and it still doesn't work. They fixed nothing. They've pissed me off with their refusal to accept any responsibility for the problems with this gun. I'm getting the word out to as many people as possible.
@@thewalkindude7716Seems like a nightmare. I was looking at the Reflex, Hellcat, 509c, or p365 xmacro. What would you reccomend out of these as a daily carry? i am relatively small and need it to not poke out a ton.
As always, well said and thank you for being so informative. Keep making these killer videos, we love them.
Yes, yes we do!
Got my fn reflex a month ago. I love how it carries and this is my first micro and it is difficult to shoot. However, the micro has taught me to be abetter shooter. After a ton of practice, the fn reflex shoots very wella dn i love the trigger as a defensive trigger. Not to mention the fde just looks great. This is a great gun and im super happy with my buy
Me 2 bro got mine 2 months ago and it’s been flawless
Jus bought one over the weekend i love it!!😎
Pick mine up tomorrow can’t wait !
Bought a Hellcat Pro, loved it so I picked up a FDE OSP, I LOVE the OSP version. I had heard that it was “Snappy’ but I didn’t find that to be the case at all. I did try an FN Reflex. Seemed well constructed, felt good, but the trigger was too light for me to be comfortable with as a carry pistol. Have you seen the new Ammo Federal Just announced . They say it was designed along with Springfield for the Hellcat. It’s a 124gr Federal “ Punch “ round.
At one point, I lived about 30 minutes away from the CZ location in Kansas. Always wanted to run by there and gawk at the place. Thought applying for a job there (How cool would that be??) too. But kept moving further and further away.
Another solid comparison. Looking into both of those, and the 365. My brother has had a 365 for over 5 years and pocket carry’s it daily with no issues. I’ve been sporting the 238 for years in the pocket and iwb. I’ve tried larger guns, but I always seem to go to large. I honestly wish CZ would cram the p10s down this small with that capacity 😂. Love that gun, but it prints too much for me and it’s not a pocket 9. Thanks again for the great videos
There's the Cz p10s
@@curiousjorge It thicc though.
I can’t break into regularly carrying micros, love my shield plus and 43x though. I carry a px4 compact more frequently and have even thought of picking up an Sig 229…weird but I found comfort in fatter guns after getting hooked on your 26/27 vids. All about mileage variance.
Carried My G-19 with holosun 503C, the TLR 7a, Alien Gear Holster and Speer Lawman 147 grain.
Very nice, solid set up. Respect!
Carrying the 43x this week but my Hellcat Pro rocks!!
You have a link to the holster for your hellcat? Looks like a really nice holster for summer carry.
After purchasing my edc kimber micro 9, all metal mini 1911, i tight that was it, i did have issues with misfiring, but Kimber service did a great job and corrected the issue, shots better with higher grain than 115, so i tested the fn reflex at my range, and grip and trigger pull just jumped right out to me, it just felt great in my hand.. and i want going to pick one up because of the polymer features but it's all about how it feels and how it shoots.. no problems with the lower left POI issues, thank God.. Been reading other comments about the lower left issues but mine shoots fine..great video comparison, didn't like the hellcat, just too snappy for me.the fn reflex grip and trigger pull won me over...
CR920 vs P365
Love both the CR920 elite and CR920P for summer, sweatpants and sometimes basketball shorts. I always wondered what if I went sig p365 series instead of shadow systems.
Maybe a decent video idea if you haven’t already. 10 round flush fit G43 size on shadow 10 round similar size on P365.
Hey man, I know you like compacts but... that Echelon gun looks like a great gun to have and would love a review from you!
I started carry with a glock 19 sized firearm, the fn 509 c tac, then picked up a hellcat. Tried to carry it, I had nothing but problems from the get go, couldn't find a holster I liked. Then I started having issues with the gun within 500 rounds. I've had to send my hellcat twice back to factory. Before it was fixed. My carry gun as of now is my cz p09 and fn 509 c tac.
I will say though I don't get people saying the hellcat recoils more than the sig p365. I've shot both recoil feels the exact same and the hellcat shoots irons more accurately for me as well
Have two reflex’s and two hellcats . Reflex is my favorite one had failure to feed 3 x within 200 rounds . Now broken in have shot another 500 rounds all different kinds of ammo no more failure to feed . Fn says it takes 400 round break In period .
This is a good one! Im thinking of grabbing one of them as my 3rd micro compact 9 pickup. I currently have a 43X mos and a standard gx4
Here for the FN Reflex 🙌🏿 just bought it
Any issues yet ???
I’m thinking of buying one
Any issues yet ???
I’m thinking of buying one
@@johnslattery2371 no issues!! Great gun
Is there any red or green dot Optics that will sit on the Hellcat without the need of a plate that have multiple reticle options?
I'm getting the Hellcat really soon and I'm looking to put an optic on it and I was really wanting a holosun 507k but it requires a plate which raises the optic enough where you cannot co-witness the iron sights from what I understand which is a bummer, and I'm having a hard time finding one with the correct shoe print that would also have multiple reticle options and Co Witnesses with the iron sights, but at the same time the dot does not land on the front sight but above it
Can you do a comparison between the reflex and mako? I know different size, but trigger, grip texture, feel in hand, the sight picture, recoil impulse, trigger guard for those of us up north who wear gloves too often, memory pads for fingers.
My 43X has become my main carry but i love my hellcat as well. I haven't tried out a reflex yet but would like to try one.
Great choice. I do like the hellcat better than the 43x because of its versatility and sizes but I love my 43x as well. You’ll love the reflex. A really solid package for a good price. Respect
Be very carful with considering purchasing the FN reflex. They have horrible feeding issues and low shooting issues. Go to the forums and listen to everyones testimony on the FN. They have some quality control issues at FN for sure. My reflex is horrible and I very much regret my purchase.
I carry an H&K P2000 chambered in 357 Sig. I use Underwood Ammo loaded Gold Dots.
Which do you like better 5/27/2024??? I'm thinking about buying the FN Reflex mrd black but I'd love your opinion, thank you!
I like the hellcat but most would prefer the fn! My fn has just over 3100 rounds Sn has been 100% reliable. My old black hellcat has 11k no problems. Respect
Fn feels a bit better in the hand, hellcat has better sights
Can you put a grip extension on a 10rd mag in California? Not the extended mag clearly that’s illegal here, but I just want more grip so that way my pinky has somewhere to be. It’s my first gun.
Going to get a Hellcat was stuck on the canik or fn but seems more reliable.
Great video however you stated that the hellcat holds the most rounds than any micro it’s size. Last I check they are finally equal because they both can take a 17rd magazine. More so the CR920 is leading now that it holds a pro mag 32rd. IJS
I love my Hellcat. I almost dropped the 5 hundo on the FN Reflex but many reviews have kept me from doing so. I the FN works well for my girlfriend. That's what she has as her 1st CCW pistol.
FN on sale at Brownells. $325
I'm a Glock guy, but I'm gonna change it up for a sub compact 9mm. I've narrowed it down to the Reflex or the Hellcat. I'm leaning toward the FN right now.
Hellcat
I love my Hellcat and Hellcat Pro. Dropped an Apex trigger in both but my OG Hellcat is not optic ready. My pro had a Tlr7 light and Holosun. Currently my main carry but will carry The OG this evening when i go
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How does the Reflex compare to the P365 or CSX? Is it as easy to rack as the CSX? What about accuracy and shootability? I love the P365 and its derivatives, but I'm also considering a Reflex. Would it be a good EDC choice for someone with small hands or hand strength/muscle rigidity issues?
It looks like it’s wearing down…. Then when you clean it, it comes back brand new! Mine does anyways 💥🏴☠️
@SPNFirearms if I may ask, can any of the two guns or any of the guns you own have a silencer attached to it?
does the reflex wear well? or does the slide start getting eatin up and paint chip
Nice little vs video man! 💥
Hellcat with hyve goodies and a 509 mrd with the new flat trigger!
I was wondering if you had the shadow systems CR920 and if you could compare that to the FN reflex thank you
Have you looked at the Kimber R7?
Good jacket carry guns, field jacket front pocket. I'll stick with my Glock 33 with 15 round Glock 31 mag though.
Well shit now I’m looking at gettin the hellcat 🤦🏾♂️lol
They are both great guns. They feel the same, the fn shoots flatter and is less snappy but the hellcats I have ran have been amazing through a big round count. I’ve been carrying my FN Reflex a lot and shooting it. I’m used to the trigger and it’s a great handgun. I’m just a bit bias to the hellcats. I carried an Fn 503 for work for 3.5 years. It is one of the most reliable firearms I own and the reflex is going to be the same way.
I dig it bro . I like the reflex as well . Just like the look of the hellcat and the capacity is a plus!
The Hellcat is snappy. Fyi, most people don't like shoooting it. They return or sell it after.
I’m getting rid of my FN Reflex , I do not trust the FN Reflex no further than I can throw it at first the FN would not feed into battery , I shot at least 2000 rounds and not one time did it ever shoot the whole magazine before it jammed, not one time, I sent it back to FN and after 2 months I received it back but it would empty magazines but it shoots low and to the left and I have tried so many things to get it to shoot better , like I said I would not trust the Reflex, I’m in the process of trading it for a Hellcat.
Is there a break-in. On the FN all the stove pipe till you break it in this is John
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love the constant good content maybe a collab in the future??
Which magpul gloves do you use?
I cross shopped these two firearms for a long time and finally went with the hellcat. The issues with the reflex shooting low left, and people saying the trigger is too light for a carry gun, I went with the hellcat. If the hellcat gets the sight issues ironed out I may purchase one, it’s a gorgeous gun
I think people arent shooting the reflex well at all. At first it shot low left for me as well. But when shooting the gun well and really having a proper grip, it shoots point of aim, point of impact for me.
@@AaronDefensive idk there’s a guy on here who put the gun in a vise pointed directly at the target and shot and it shot 6 or so times exactly in the same spot low and left. Professional shooters having this issue it’s the gun/sights
@@bronsondempsey7812 i replaced the rear sight with a cheap #8 sig rear sight. Worked perfectly fine. Although I get that a gun should come fine off the factory and one shouldnt have to replace rear sights just to shoot straight. FN fumbled that in QC. But as long as we get what works for us working, right?
@@AaronDefensiveI wonder if it wouldn’t be better to just put something like a Holosun optic on it ?
the fn seems to have an accuracy issue always shooting low and left
I prefer the Reflex
The hellcat is a great handgun the fn seems awesome gotta check one out ❤
One thing to keep in mind, after coming from a striker fired pistol. The FN Reflex is a hammer gun. Internal hammer. That's what causes that longer reset that Spn mentioned in the video. Handled one at a store and it's got a good feel to the trigger. So it seems like it's a pretty good system. It's just... different, if you've gotten used to primarily shooting striker fires.
Do you ever fire on the range or just do speaking reviews? 👍👊
I have hundreds of shooting reviews and videos up on the channel! Just got to find them!
Nice review
Thank you so much!!! Ima get both😂 hellcat first
Yeeeeeeeee Glock 33 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
holster website again?
Blacksmith tactical code: spn for 10% off
Do you own any rifles?
glock 27 with 26 barrel
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I carry a Hellcat Pro.
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i am carrying p365 getting to add glock 30s
Sig p365
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I have a BLACK FN REFLEX MRD WITH AN HOLOSUN 507K. USING AN BLACK POINT TACTICAL WING IWB HOLSTER. Its my EDC.. I never had a problem with my REFLEX. I FOUND PEOPLE NEEDING MORE TRAINING BLAME THE TOOL. GET YOUR EGO OUT OF THE WAY. Micro guns are harder to shoot.Get training also no one talks about getting hand to hand defensive combat training.