Nursing Simulation Scenario: Opioid Withdrawal
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2018
- This video is one in a series created for nursing and healthcare educators for use in a variety of settings. Complete information about this scenario, from set-up to debriefing questions, can be found at cms.montgomerycollege.edu/NursingSimulations/
I have never been treated as well as portrayed in this video. The Asian guy at the start portrays a perfect example of how opioid dependent patients are treated in hospital.
Really? Can you make a complaint?
He just fucking did, fucking idiot
it’s so important in the medical field for the providers to show empathy and understanding. we treat everyone the same, however it’s highly unfortunate that you don’t have to have empathy to pass a test in med school. congratulations on being sober, we care about you
correction: we SHOULD treat everyone the same, but not everyone does :(
For anyone reading....RNs want to help. What happens and needs to be fixed is along with patient portrayed, we have 4 other , ones family is complaining....one is decomp.
Then we get in trouble for time management. I always make sure that whatever I do is right for patient...I'm not there to help a patient kick or judge. We think we know how to label. We are to treat the whole person. I would of done the Same thing this nurse did. Behind the scenes its all labeling and I hate that part. Person not a diagnosis.
A real withdraw would be 100% worse. She would not even be able to lay still. It's actual hell
Yes it is.... Yes it is
It's worse than hell...and when I went to the hospital they gave me Ambien nausea meds and i left suffering!!
This is just a simulation hun. I think everyone knows this. 🤦🏻♀️
@@keyboardwarrior3783 true
Am i the only weirdo who enjoy quitting? Like enjoying the pain
As a psych RN who has also been through detox, the day you lose your empathy is the day you need to walk away. As a patient, I got screamed at for asking for my heart medication at the "wrong time". The other nurses begged me to file an incident report, and she was fired. Good detox nurses are still out there.
I am an addict in recovery. I went to the ER for opiate withdrawl and I was treated SO good! They didn’t judge me at all they were glad to help me! They did SO well with me! Had me hooked up to multiple machines to make sure I was okay. They totally understood me! It was amazing! I’ve been a drug addict for 10 years and I’m 25 years old . Have 1 year clean! Thanks to people who supported me and helped me by treating me like a normal person not just a “drug addict”
They said that they had a lot of respect for me because I came to the ER for help instead of going back out and using! They saw me as a strong person and that made me want to cry when people believe in you like that 😩
The hospital I went to was Allenmore in Tacoma Washington!
i went in for alcohol withdrawals 3 times. the first time, the nurses were angels and took me seriously, and also spoiled me a bit . the 2nd two times i was treated as a drug seeker because I kept asking for valium which the only gave me upon admission and then left me suffering cold turkey in the following 3-4days. my first stay however they gave me more valium than I even needed they gave me like 10mg 3 times a day, I really only needed 10mg like every 12-18 hours. currently strung out on booze and IDK if Id go back to either of the 2 hospitals. one was nice to me once and mean to me once. the other was just , meh, some mean nurses, some nice, but really stingy with the benzos and wouldn't even give me sleeping pills . shit was hell.
@@grahamsalkeld358 yess totally I’ve had some really really bad experiences and I’ve had some really good experiences! I’m always really up front about my situation I say “look here guys, I’m a young lady that’s had a fucked up life of addiction and I’m trying to get my life back together” and people can usually understand and respect that when I tell them this.
I’m live in western Washington state and we have a GIANT opiate problem and just addiction problems in general so when people are coming to places looking for help people around here are usually super happy to help! We want to help people here!! We want to see people get off the streets and get better ❤️🩹
this is so good to read, how are you doing at the moment? Xx
Congrats man!
Im proud of you
That brought me to tears. Addicts already consider themselves losers and pos, we dont need everyone reinforcing it. A friendly voice and treatment of an addict goes much further than nastiness.
I certainly do
Yesss
I’m a nurse working in addictions and agree with this 100%. Thank you!
@@ardise768 All the best brother.
@@christine9098 Hey Christine,I'm on a 50ml Methadone Maintenance program and if you were my worker/Nurse I'd be trying to plough you.
As a CNA who was worked everywhere from a nursing home, to Vanderbilt University Hospital, I can assure you that a GOOD NURSE who CARES does make ALL the difference.
"You are not alone" the most valuable speech from the nurse .
i endured severe abuse as a child. this abuse eventually resulted in me being a homeless heroin addict at the age of 16. i overdosed time and time again, never even considering sobriety, until one time, the nurse who was beside me told me “hey. i know. but it’ll be okay.” to this day, those words echo through my head so vividly i can almost hear them. that was two years ago. i’m 18 now. that nurse, is the reason i was able to pick up the pieces and put my life back together, and thanks to that wonderful woman i’m gonna be graduating high school in a week, and i even got accepted to nursing school! nobody is unreclaimable, and i am living proof of that. i started using when i was 9, and i kept using till i was almost 17, and yet, look at how far i’ve come! always remember to treat people with kindness because those 7 words saved my fucking life.
Thank you for giving us a reason to keep trying!
those 7.words??
congratulations!! you are one brave person and may God bless you!! i wish you all the best the world has to offer.
words are POWERFUL
What made you start so young? How did you even get access to it in the first place? Happy you've got past it now.
I plan to become a doctor, and I plan to treat my patients like this because they are people and you never know someone’s situation.
Please do
Just remember that NO ONE wakes up one day and decides "I'm going to destroy my life, toss out all my hopes and dreams and all hope 4 a better future", when they try (fill in the blank) the 1st time. The HELL that goes hand in hand with addiction is NOTHING anyone would ever choose, if they knew all the facts before hand. Just like some people go shopping or gambling, smoke a cigarette or drink a beer to cope with life, some ppl cope by using drugs.....EVERYbody has a vice.
Amen. Stay as humble and caring as you are now. The world needs more people like you!
@@me_TJ_MrB Isn't it up to YOU, after you become a physician, how YOU decide to treat patients??
Sleepy Subliminals you will be a great one then
I want everyone to know as an RN and a human being I care and I hope you get the help you need out there.
@3ds max ROFL it starts as something much deeper,that's the quick fix though..so temporary a bandaid over a festering wound / problem . I hate being an addict so much . Fentanyl is a BITCH
Thank you for being one of the good nurses 💕
Even if we steal your wallet?
God Bless You ! 🕊🌿
@@JaneDoe-yz6by girl I had strep too 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ id rather have covid again
As a recovering addict who also has an autoimmune disease, chronic pain, anxiety & depression, I pray each time I am admitted for a procedure, surgery or sickness, that I am treated with the same kindness, respect & care of the second nurse & her supervising doctor💜
I’m so sorry to read all of the comments from people who have been through withdrawal and weren’t treated with the compassion you should have received. I’m a nursing assistant at the moment and waiting to start paramedic training. I promise that I will fight for my patients who are in this position. All of you deserve compassion, understanding and dignity. You’re not alone and I hope for a better future for all of you affected by opioid addiction.
Those who have never experienced opiate withdrawal will truly never understand how horrifying it is.. I was put on Oxycodone after fracturing my back over seas on deployment, I had no experience with pain medication prior to that, after 9 months the doctor cut my script and said it was because I was “too young” to be on a medication he prescribed me.. I would rather have laid and died in the desert had I known what treating the pain would cost me. Stay away from pain medication, stay away, I beg anyone reading this, stay away. And those who are using and dependent, I know how you feel, I wish I could give you a hug and say it’s ok, but in the end the only thing on our mind will be the fear of withdrawal.
For me 120mg morphine er for 6 years from really bad nerve pain. I wished i never touched the stuff. But since other drugs like gabbapentin weren't working my doctor had me try morphine. It did take the pain away. But had I known the hell I would get from withdraws i would have never started. Whats worse is with my withdraws not only do I get all the stuff with the WD but my nerve pain coming back as well, so its like double wammy. I hate hate it.
What did you do to cope? I have a theory that tapering the opiate while dosing with marijuana would be a better way to withdraw.
i’m dealing with oxycodone right now, day 2 coming up
& Fentanyl withdrawal is even worse lol
@@playyvh1334 day is da worst
From what I've seen, even when someone does actually care, like in this video, more than often, their hands are tied and they can't do what they would like to do.
Yes!!
Facts. I was halfway expecting the doctor on the phone to tell the nurse that she was just gonna have to deal with it.
True a lot of the time. But a good nurse can convince the doctor to give you more meds if you REALLY need them.
No. As an RN and an opiate addict in recovery, the medical community has. a deep disgust of addicts. They do not care what happens to you. They just want you to shut up. I could tell you some horrifying stories of the way I was treated when I went to the ER once after going into precipitated withdrawals OR I could tell you some horrifying stories from the other side of it- some of my patients who have come in whom I treated.
The medical community makes me so angry when they start talking about us and to us... it's such a pity.
I fear that addiction is the one thing that will never be accepted or even tolerated even though, these days, it seems our nation is choosing a new stereotype each week to campaign for. They push acceptance, understanding, tolerance of LGBTQ, different races, all different handicaps, mental health issues, AIDS, etc.
But even though Addiction is as much if. a disease as diabetes, cancer, and heart problems, and even though it's been around since prehistoric times, those who suffer from addictions will forever be treated poorly.
@@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 Wow - well said. As someone who was also addicted to opiates myself - I can 100% vouch for the fact that this war that we supposedly have on drugs is a complete and utter joke. The truth is that drugs won a long time ago, and this current method - whatever it is - isn't working. It's never worked. If society can't find a way to forgive addicts in an age where we're really not supposed to marginalize any group of people, then things are going to get a lot more detrimental in the future. We are all human, yet drug addicts are right at the bottom, only pedophiles are below us in some people's eyes. I realize that everyone who cared didn't understand and everyone who understood didn't care, but I hope that those who've never had to know the agonizing torment of addiction - can someday understand that type of shame is on a loneliness that goes to a whole new level.
I am an addict who has struggled with opioid dependence for many years. I have never ever had one soul treat me like this. I pray before I die that God would put that help in my path somehow
God bless you. You deserve to get help and to be treated like a human being.
this stirs up a lot of emotion and i don't even know where to start. every nurse needs to be like the second one. there's a lack of empathy when it comes to patients sometimes and it breaks my heart to see that treatment in a place where you're supposed to be getting better. addicts are some of the most incredible, interesting, amazing people out there, their addiction isn't who they are as a person.
If ALL doctors and nurses treated these patients with this kind of compassion and respect, the opioid crisis would be less of a "crisis" and more of a concern. I've never treated any of my patients with anything less. They're human, just like the rest of us. They just need adequate medication to get through the withdrawl symptoms so they're more receptive to treatment during their stay and after their release. Without it, you will get zero cooperation... guaranteed.
The fault of the "crisis" lies directly with the doctors and the DEA they are afraid of losing their ability to practice and cut people off without aftercare such as methadone or still better, suboxone or even a slow weaning off. Instead they say 'last script" and people can not deal with the cold turkey and go to the street drugs and the actual killer is not knowing how much the drug is cut with the fentanyl. Sad but true
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after my experience in the hospital, there is no way in hell that i would want to ever do that again. i would rather take benzos for the rest of my life than go through that once more if they aren’t going to taper off the correct way..
Oh please.. my boyfriend has been in the hospital for this and was treated like a criminal and a drug seeker the entire time.. not all addicts are bad people. They are people who are struggling... I am a recovering heroin addict, I have just over 3 years.. I can tell you there are hardly any workers out there that will give you this kind of respect and that needs to change.
Yeah no kidding. It's their job they CHOSE to do. You have to want to help people in doing that so, I don't understand why they treat people like this. It's wrong and they go on about their day/life and patients never forget their faces.
Wait, 3 years withdrawing or you think you have 3 years to recover?
@@hotsauce153 3 years clean she means
Great compassionate video about the horror of opiate withdrawal. And, most importantly, how some nurses or physicians treat the patient with little to no compassion at all. Providers and nurses need to not only watch this video but also understand what it’s saying! THANK YOU
I went to the er for bad withdrawal and I definitely felt like I was being treated like a sub citizen. I never asked for any opiates only iv fluids and clonidine and still the doctor felt it neccessery to tell me "we don't give out pain meds for that here" LIKE I NEVER ASKED YOU FOR PAIN MEDS
I would’ve said “show me where I asked for pain medicine?”
I have had that happen to me so much. When I have gone in just to figure out what's causing the pain, I'll even tell them" I'm not here for pain medicine " they still find it necessary to belittle me by explaining that "pain won't kill you" and "we are not a pain clinic"🤦
Bro I don’t even use drugs but I’m young and covered in tattoos so if I go the doctor they automatically assume I’m just looking for drugs. It actually makes me feel guilty even though I didn’t do anything wrong.
P Cass I know ppl stigmatized other s from their looks don’t worry be yourself, you know what you are. Blessings 💪🏾👩🏽⚕️👍🏾
I'm 32 covered in tattoos and piercings and have been in 3 different accidents. Once was being hit by a car when I was 16. I have 2 types of neuropathy and Ehlers danlos syndrome. I'm on oxycodone daily. Almost every pharmacist looks at me and think I'm a drug addict and say "we're out" or "we aren't going to fill this" and turn me away.
P Cass 😞
Fr I've had major concussions and surgury and my dr wrote prescription and they wouldn't fill it becuse the dr lied to us and told me that he would give me meds when I left know I am still on meds if this dumbass dr gave me med si wouldn't be on subs that's all they want is to safe money on there precious morphine when people that have cancer cant even get it at times we need to do something about these idiots
I hate when educated people are so ignorant.
We need more nurses like this lady. That understands opiate withdrawal and treats the patient with respect.
They don't treat withdrawal in the ER in most cases, and they'd NEVER give more pain medication. Maybe Suboxone. But nothing like morphine.
@@mkp3824 True. ER is triaging the usually. They prioritize and are trained very differently.
@marie.s9995 if I remember correctly, this was intended to make it look like only the black doctor would help the black patient and give her something she shouldn't have. The whole, "blacks don't get proper treatment from White People" myth.
@@mkp3824ironically they are the very one who've enabled the Fentanyl epidemic
This is an act.
I’ve never done heroin, but I’ve been sick for just shy of ten years with a long lone of illnesses, disease, and chronic pain, anxiety, and depression. I’ve been treated so many times in the ER especially, as a drug seeking addict. It’s very rare to find someone who will treat you like a person who matters. I thank you for this info for those who don’t comprehend what we go through
GREATEST VIDEO 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️, THIS NEEDS TO BE SEEN BY MANY IN THE MEDICAL FIELD, ADDICTION IS AT A ALL TIME HIGH & MANY ARE SELF MEDICATING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GETTING THE PROPER HELP WITH THE PROPER HUMAN RESPECT ‼️
BLESSINGS TO ALL BATTLING ADDICTION, THEIR LOVED ONES & FOR THE MEDICAL FIELD TO TAKE IT SERIOUS 💯‼️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏽🙏🙏🏿🙏🏻🙏🏾❤️🌅
That is ALL we as addicts ask for: compassion. I've been clean for a number of years but whenever someone knows that I am a recovering opiate addict, they say, "really? You don't look the type"! That bothers me so much because I could be rich and still have the same problem. Let's lose the stigma folks!
I get the same. Whenever I get a job they skip over the felon question or if not, ask it as if its a silly thing to even bring up and the double take i get every time irks me.... Is it that hard to believe I've been caught with drugs before???? (Not proud of it by any means, just makes me uncomfortable with the shock and awe they eminate all over the place)........
Makes me wonder what the physical description of a person with a checkered past looks like to most people.
Divide and conquer.
@@troyprior5902 look like me. Its really interesting that you volunteer that information if not prompted. Thats wonderful
@@troyprior5902 you leverage it. Parable of the prodigal son.
I’ve had the “you don’t look like the type” response many times too. In fact, I’ve even experienced fellow addicts whose opiate addictions all began from the use of prescription/OTC opiates trying to distinguish between themselves and “smack heads who inject”, as if there is any inherent difference. They genuinely see themselves as completely different to those opiate addicts who inject. They see themselves as above them and more deserving of care. It’s pathetic. We’re all addicts, the methods we use to placate our addictions and administer the drugs is irrelevant.
I think that every hospital should show this video to all nursing staff and doctors about twice a year. If not more often.
I agree! I am 64 been on opiates for years. Everytime i go to a hospital i am treated like a Junkie looking for Drugs!! I would Love to get off them . I am in legit pain management. But they have not been any help either. I suffer with Fibro pain . Back issues from a bad car wreck. , other things.. i would like to get free of these opiates scared of withdrawals..i had a licensed psych Dr who up and took me off of Klonopin no step down i was on 1 mg 3-times A day. That was the worst year of my life.. i hate when i need medical care i get treated like a Druggie.. it Sucks!!! i at 64 do not wish to die from and Overdose.. i have a brother who killed himself in 1983.. that lives with me still. Sorry to Ramble.. its frustrating when you truly want off the opiates get. no great help. They don't mind putting on them. But don't want to help you get off them. its scary to me. I am deathly Allergic to Aspirin all Nsaid Drugs!
Under medicated absolutely! I’ve been in a hospital many times. Any time I’ve ever mentioned that I have a history of opiate abuse I’ve been treated as a drug seeker and that’s the furthest from the truth! I’ve had some nurses try to get me to take medication that I’ve refused. I only wanted my needs to be met. Some hospital workers are ruthless and I totally understand why some leave ama
That's beautiful to see hope in humanity. I hope this message spread all over the world about how health professionals should behave. Everyone with drug addiction is a human. Congratulations
If a nurse or doctor just ignores people calling out for help.. they should lose their license!
Amen!
Amen
Yea I had one at dr dickermens surgury TX hospital where they cut me open and promised I'd have meds and woke me up to half a perc 5 like wtf then he started giving shots that were only half doses lmof morphine he was mad becuse I was screaming and he wasnt fit to take care of this he was like 23 there were so many black people its like they fucking take over
I believe it's called hypocratic oath??
mikehunt 8 what do you mean when you say there are so many black people they take over??
How lucky you would be to find someone so compassionate and understanding!!! BUT honestly you’d have Better luck finding a pot of gold under a rainbow or the leprechaun who put it there or even the mythical unicorn he rode away on..
Lilly Belle well said!!! And all true
Lilly Belle Very true they forget they are even human sometimes. The worst would be in jail, I have heard many going through detox there are left to die unfortunately.
Barry Hazlehurst been there, done that and you couldn’t be more correct! There are no words to describe how bad they treat you in jail when they know you are detoxing off heroin. Worse than a mangey mutt and some of the shit they say is even worse! You literally have to actually be dead or dying before they will give you a second glance anything short of that they chalk it up to your being dramatic, faking it, being a big baby, or deserve what ever it is that you are going through for being a junkie in the first place. One of the times I had to kick when I went to jail I actually went into convulsions and fell off my bunk which btw was the top bunk and was actually higher than the other bunks Bc of where the cell was located/built they couldn’t put it at the normal height, so they installed it up higher by a good 2 ft. My bunkie freaked and didn’t know what to do or what was happening.. she hit the button to call the C/O’s and said I had fell off the top bunk and hit my head on the floor and now I was on the floor flopping around like a fish outta water, they said “well that means she’s still alive right?!! She will be fine! She’s just kicking off heroin, so that’s what she gets. Unless she’s dead or dying Don’t hit that button again”
As much as everyone says she’s not acting like a real nurse I have to disagree, those people are out there ...and the other one isn’t behaving like a real junkie in acute withdrawal either...it’s a lot worse by far..
The Bear this is unfortunately 100% true! I was a heroin addict and I’ve been arrested once and as soon as I got there one of the first questions they asked during booking was “are you going to be withdrawing from any substances while you are here?” and obviously I said yes and they took me to a cell (a regular 2 person cell) with 4 other women in it that were in withdrawal as well..and I was left there until I bonded out 4 days later! Imagine 5 women being in a 2 person cell that are all in the worst part of their withdrawal all sharing 1 toilet while we’re all vomiting and have diarrhea with 3 of us sleeping on the floor!!! Thankfully going to jail is actually what pushed me to get sober and I’ve been sober for almost 9 years now! It’s horrible how addicts get treated by “professionals”!! I understand we made some bad choices but do these people think that we were aware that ONE bad choice would do such detrimental damage for years to come?! Nobody wakes up and says “I think today’s the day I wanna become a drug addict and fuck my life all the way up!!”
thank you so much for this educational video. Having an OUD (opiod use disorder) is NOT an excuse to refusse to give in-hospital pain and withdrawal relief!
I WISH all nurses were like this..
That's how I've was treated today by my new doctor she seen I wanted off of this and I was planning to just get more sub and go on with life......but thanks to her and the amazing plan she suggested not forcing me to do anything uncomfortable, I'm giving it another shot confident that I can do this. I never been treated this great as someone addicted...... its almost like she was that nice lady in the video who actually cared about the patient. Wish me luck. I'm going to do it
I hope you did well I was an oxy addict, finally got off oxy, switched to alcohol. I spent almost two years in rehab, went through a divorce, death of two family members because of Covid. Now, with the help of indiana center for recovery and AA, I'm 1 year clean. It's a daily struggle, I go into a store to buy something and have to walk past the alcohol section ever time.
good luck and may God bless you!!
The comments here break my heart as an RN but I know they are all too true. I now work in hospice where we actually get to make people comfortable without judgement
I kno that must b very hard. God bless u
May God Bless you for being a Hospice Angel of Mercy. My Mother died from ALS. She was really suffering until hospice came and eased her suffering. She moaned and I cried. After hospice got her comfort she rested peacefully, no more moaning, I didn't cry. She was comfortable.
Thank you! My father just died in hospice and the compassion and care was wonderful.
are you saying the nurses feel judged if they make certain people feel comfortable? wow. I appreciate hearing another nurse say you believe our experiences from most nurses have been borderline abusive
I’m an RN as well and have recently moved into corrections nursing after 20 years in acute care….what incredibly different & shocking worlds those are! It opened my eyes to something surrounding all of us that most of us willingly don’t see and the fact that these are people just like the rest of us, that deserve our help, dignity, & respect is lost in the judgement of their actions.
That would be amazing if this was shown and taught to everyone working in the medical fields
The guy is spot on for how they act! I got rushed to ER in ambulance for excruciating abdominal pain. Once the nurses heard my background they let me lay there screaming for 4 hours. Turns out I did have kidney stones!
oh no kidney stones are worse or at best equal to giving birth naturally!!!!!!! so sorry you had to go through that!!!!!
You told them your background or they found out? Sounds like it better to not tell them shit..
RN here. I’ve taken care of a lot of opioid abusers in withdrawal. The patient portrayed here is pretty accurate to some(not all) I’ve seen. Realistically though, patients who get admitted for drug overdose often times will leave AMA as soon as they’re awake enough to walk. Yes, they need drug rehab, but hospitals aren’t rehabs. It’s so much easier to prevent addiction than to treat it. People just need to be more educated on the issue.
Don't you think the addicts are leaving AMA as soon as they are awake enough because they know how they'll be treated and stand very little chance of having their withdrawal symptoms treated. They leave before they are too sick to move.
No, the problem is doctors that think opioids will cure anything. Then when you go into withdrawel, most people turn to alcohol to lessen the withdrawals. It's a vicious cycle that Purdue pharmaceutical pushed onto the American Public.
They leave immediately for obvious reasons. They just overdosed, naloxone takes it all out of their system, and they get treated like absolute shit when they're there.
It would be a blessing to find compassionate doctors but nope
Stay away from foreign Doctors ,they are the worst ,remembering if you are paying you have a choice who you want to be treated by , me ,I stop all payment if they treat me like trash from the street or call the insurance not to pay.
underrated comment they treat you like the worst human being just cause youre an addict
@@UncleBlazed yes and in jail it's even worse! 🙏
Doctors are one of the worst people in a professional business next to lawyers.
Doctors get paid to hurt people lawyers get paid to steal
All of my friends, including me, are afraid to go to the hospital cuz we know we'll be treated like crap and nobody will care about what we're going through
I understand that you are afraid, but please don't let that discourage you from getting the help that you need.
you are better off going to the GHETTO and score your dope ,ER don't care about people dying of drug overdose , they just laugh behind the curtains,
I was treated like I was a rapist or murderer. Zero compassion and no helpful advice. I suggest trying Kratom and Ibogaine. Best of luck
@Doug Sales If, when you get clean and feel better, try a 12 step group like NA . It's full of people who have been thru it or are going thru it. And they can be very supportive.
There are several websites from off-shore chem companies that will supply you opioid analogues if you are in pain and doctors wont help you.
I’m so happy to see most of these comments are about helping addicts. IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE. I’m four and a half years off heroin and it was no walk in the park. I was raised by a really good family. I have morals. Always held a job. Have a good relationship w my family and friends. And hid it well. I got help. And I’m doing ok today. But no addict should be ignored. You would have never guessed half the people I have met in my life were addicts. We have to stop judging.
Great job on getting sober and maintaining sobriety. That can't be easy. Keep it up
I'm a trained nurse myself she definitely on the ball in her approach and her clinical skills.
Not once was I ever treated this good...not by a longshot
Must be white lmao
Nope. Doctors treat addicts like fucking shit.
@@realmofthemisunderstood166 Doctors are the gatekeepers by the time a fool's options narrow down to life or death. Addicts treat themselves like shit therefore no stable minded professional would allow them to call the shots.
Ghost Recon I don’t mean letting them make choices, I mean they have a horrible attitude. They’re rude and judgmental and fucking mean. My aunt was 16 fucking years old when she first quit heroin. All she could do was lay there and vomit and the nurses would talk shit about her right in front of her.
Never will you find this. Never. No one cares.
no Amanda Payton someone cares
So true, nobody cares and it seems people like to see other people struggle
Never say never. It's rare to find someone who actually cares, but they are out there. It's just too bad there aren't more of them.
What country are you in Amanda? Cuz if you're in the US l can imagine it's bad. America is _slowly_ catching up, but addiction has to be a medical issue, and not conflated with criminality. Being sick is _just gross!_ Too many people think that all the begging and pleading is just to ''get high'' when you're actually in ACUTE discomfort!! l hope you're doing alright. lf not, get onto a 'suboxone or methadose' program if your chasing the clock. Cold Turkey belongs on a bun!
No it’s not that, most nurses have 5 other patients to worry abt. It’s not that the nurses don’t care it’s that they have so many other patients to deal with on top of withdrawal patients
I saw the title and the " *simulation* " and as an opiate addict already knew this was going to be a barrel of laughs straight off the baT
Seriously, if I was that sick I'd be out of there as soon as I could put one foot in front if the other.
Fellow opiate addict from the North East 👍
Haha, never thought I'd find you on here Daisy!
Thank you for providing a REAL example of how marginalized substance-addicted patients are treated and how they SHOULD be treated. Thank you--I will be using this video in my ethics class for Associate Degree Nurses.
All this will unfortunately change again at handover.
I'm treated exactly the same at Peninsula Health (PH) even though I was a RN there because I have "Opiate dependent" on my admission sheet.
PH has a policy that is extremely dangerous in that anyone on either pain medication and/or benzos are REFUSED administration of these. Sending people into withdrawals and increasing abuse by and of staff.
Everyone deserves to be treated as an individual and a human. Not some waste of space, time and a bed.
Some of these Hospital E.R staff like some Philippine R.N That treat people Badly ,base on their Last name or origin have called POLICE to take ill withdrawing patients into custody and be place in a cold floor jail to die , justification , he was a Drug Addicted ,sorry for your Lost .case closed
@@hardcandy7112 yes here in California the meanest and most heartless nurses are the Filipino nurses that not only have no compassion,but I feel like they enjoy seeing me in withdrawals so bad I can't even tell you where we are or what day it is
This needs to go viral.... it’s the most accurate and spot on depiction about SOME nurses who don’t want to just listen to patients considered “difficult”. Well done and yes I can relate....
Well it's accurate on the healthcare workers side but a real heroin withdrawal would be ts times worse than that cold turkey.(I've been on heroin for five years and had to kick cold turkey in jails and hospitals and let me tell you both places are freezing,I'll be vomiting every ten minutes,I'll be feeling constipated but also have diahreah at the same time, cold sweats,hot flash type things,tremors,headache ,and my back and neck literally feel like a big rig ran it over plus fever and sweaty and smelly for some reason when I kick my sweat smells like hell maybe it's the toxins going out...and bones hurt so bad,and zero humanity when it comes to the jailers or nurses.ive had them laugh at me while I shut my pants and barfed at the same time and tell me "you did this to yourself"
I agree !!!
I agree! Go viral!
also i think that a large number of people suffer from an affliction called LAZINESS!! like, put a little more effort into things--it won't kill you! another common affliction is called LACK OF KINDNESS. a little more empathy and compassion will not only benefit the patient BUT being of service to others actually feels good! becoming more "spiritually attuned" to what is going on in the world will also help you in your career as a health provider and who knows where that might lead. being recognized by higher-ups?? being promoted?? of course you are not being kinder just for those reasons but good things will begin to happen if you go out of your way to help and if they don't right away then so what?? you'll feel good for helping others and understanding their plight nonetheless and THIS should be the goal we should all seek.
@@kaiotikworld8945 yes thank you for this. And your description is pretty accurate. 3 year long fentanyl addict here. Started at 18. I’m 21 in a few days , May 1st. Worse thing I’ve ever put myself through. It’s currently 2:30 am. I can’t sleep. At 9 am that will be 48 hours clean. I had to go to the hospital at 4:30 am yesterday. I had been in active withdrawal. Cold turkey. Checked in. Had to wait 5 1/2 hours before I was medicated. So I was cold turkey 25 hours. 24 is usually the requirement for MAT (Medicated Assisted Treatment) agonizing pain. The hot and freezing cold you are talking about are cold sweats. But to the extreme. Your skin becomes so sensitive and everything feels painful if it touches your skin. Like bed sheets and clothes. The pain is unimaginable and explaining could never do justice. Not unless you go through it yourself. The pain in my lower back , hips and legs. Just fucking miserable. Can’t eat. Can’t sleep. Can’t stop moving and twitching and intense muscle cramps and spasms non stop. Looking like I’m tweaking. Moaning out in pain. Diarrhea. Aggressive ass vomiting. The first time I went thru withdrawal I had been using for a month and a half straight every day starting the very first day I ever tried it. My ex introduced me. He lied about what it was. When I ran out of money I learned very quick I fucked up. And fucked up bad. I got no medical treatment because my ex didn’t let me. The second time I was smoking 20 pills a day. Cold turkey. I can’t even describe the fucking torture it truly is. Again no medical treatment. That was at the end of April 2022. I was 7 days clean on my birthday last year and relapsed on day 8. Couple months later I’m back up to 10 a day. The 8 days clean killed my tolerance. So I started at 1 a day and it took less than two months to need 10 a day. Again cold turkey. This time was admitted to the hospital. About a day and a half after was how long I suffered before getting medicated. And the next day I had my graduation ceremony. So yeah that sucked. It’s now the end of April 2023. I have tried to stop again in December but failed. Couldn’t make it past 8 hours and I attempted 3 times back to back. It’s been 10 months that I had been using every day. The longest I’ve ever used without stopping. April 25th (yesterday) I admitted myself to a hospital again. Went alone. Took an Uber. Did that shit on my own. It’s the 26th now and my birthday is in 5 days. At least I’ll be sober for my 21st birthday. I hope this is my last time going through this.
Wow this hits home...I’ve been clean from heroin for 3 years and can relate...BIG TIME.
I wish I had a nurse like this woman. As someone who struggled with addiction if you tell doctors or nurses about it they absolutely treat you like a pariah. I had a surgery and as pain management they put in a line straight into my back so the medication was dispensed on a schedule. I said sure fine. After the surgery, it slid out and I was in excruciating pain like I’d never felt. I was literally screaming in pain, and instead of calling the doctors the nurses wrote me off as dramatic and drug seeking assuming I had my line and I just wanted more. NOT ONE of them even checked it. Finally after hours of screaming crying and begging, one petite nurse came on shift and immediately called the doctor over and over until FINALLY she came down and found out my line had slipped out of place and I’d spent the 12 hours directly after invasive surgery with ZERO pain medication. It was hell and I was treated like sh*t. And even afterwards when they all been proven wrong that I HAD been telling the truth, not one of them apologized or tried to make me feel better. They all continues to treat me like garbage. I was in outpatient recovery at the time, not a junkie, not there for an overdose, etc. I know it’s fake but I wish more nurses were like this one.
I would have tried to sue them
@@danmccarthy6479 I probably should have. But I just felt shame and wanted it all to be over.
So this is how doctors talk to each other about patients.
This actually happened to me when I was sent to the hospital for withdrawals I somehow got an angel for a dr who treated me with compassion I’ll never forget him!!
brigettelaura proud of you💜
Most places would just discharge ppl and tell them to screw
brigettelaura they gave you pain meds?
You were one of the fortunate ones!! Thank your angel!
Yes I went to the ER in withdraws and the dr prescribed me norco to get through the weekend until i could get into treatment. I went to rehab that week, I haven’t used since dec 14, 2017
Had a psychiatrist take me off a benzo only to find myself in an ER at age 30 thinking I was having a heart attack. It was withdrawals. I wasn’t told to not quit cold turkey. So to add insult to injury, the ER doctor looked at my med history and saw that I had that benzo filled 20 days prior but I didn’t know I was going thru withdrawals and he didn’t know I had stopped taking it. Finally after being called a drug seeker, a nurse I knew in the ER vouched for my character and my situation. Only then was I treated like a human by that man I came to for help. It was then I learned that when you stop a drug that is controlled, make sure they know on your paperwork!!!!! I had no clue one was causing the other. But just think had that nurse not been there, who knows what would have happened.
I get that this is a series that's created for nurses to teach them how to deal with drug abuses, but I still think that this Jamaican nurse is just wonderful.
Well at least theyre trying to teach people how to deal with this
They should start helping people withdrawal because its serious. I understand that itz their fault but still tho they needed help and not beiging judge
Cambodian Queen978 Yeah exactly.
I agree. 1000%
best thing too do is put addicts in a hole,like the one John Mccaine was in. He was captured in the war. They dug holes and put him and others in the holes. Put these Addicts in holes feed them rice and give them water. 30 days done.
James Guest uhhh no. Lol. The phycological reason for using in the first place needs to treated. Yes they would be clean... But do you really believe it would work forever? We have seen time and again that this does not work.
Cambodian Queen978.. Totally agree!💯👏👏👏👏
I cried watching this, because I’ve been there, only instead of heroin it was fentanyl, and I’ve been treated very badly in hospitals for being addicted, only my addiction actually was a medical thing called tolerance, because I’m a chronic pain patient that has been on opioids for seven years. Way more now. I’ve been abused verbally, physically and sexually in hospitals when I came in with my Rheumatoid arthritis flares, I have severe intractable chronic pain and severe RA, and a whole host of other disabilities caused by this, I’ve only had very few doctors or nurses treat me like a fucking person.
All patients regardless of condition, but especially opioid addicts in withdrawals should be treated as kindly as this! These are people who had something tragic happen in their life or had surgery and got addicted, there’s always a sad story behind addiction.
i am so sorry you have to deal with this. God bless you and remember you are not alone in this horrendous battle!! i totally agree that trauma is behind most, if not ALL addictive behaviours. personally, the relief i felt both physically and emotionally after taking narcotics from a doctor at 19 for migraines was the peace i had been searching for all of my life!! or so i thought. immediately, i made a deal with myself that i would do ANYTHING in order to experience that euphoria again and again. i felt that i had found the answer to all of my physical problems (severe migraines mainly) and that i found a cure to my anxiety and depression. the devil is the biggest liar! everything immoral that you do to please yourself may work for awhile (that is why you get hooked) but this very "thing" ends up turning against you. drugs are demonic and evil. imagine taking something that completely rewires your brain and thus, the way you think on a daily basis. not only that but even if you quit, that part of your brain will always remind you of the pleasure you felt that first time. it then becomes a lifelong battle. it is impossible to fight this battle by yourself. we need support from doctors, family/friends, counsellors, God (spiritual aid). our time on this earth is filled with joy but also with struggles that cannot be fought alone. i personally needed methadone maintenance to finally kick my habit. my addiction may have started with prescription medication but i ended up adding other illegal substances into the mix. methadone pretty much erased the cravings that tormented me daily along with the depression one gets when you stop taking drugs which became unbearable. i mean, detox is just the first step and then you have to deal with the mental shit. i might have to take methadone for the rest of my life but a trip to the drugstore each week is not a big deal for me. God bless everyone struggling with this horrible condition. there ARE solutions out there so please stay hopeful and strong and seek help out. GOOD LUCK!!
Yeah tolerance cause you use more lol
As a retired nurse I can say nurses can be ruthless , esp if they have never watched a loved one struggle with addiction ..
Omg this NEVER EVER happens. Trust me, this coming from someone that has been down similar roads. The medical community hates us and treat us like trash. I'm in recovery now but have experienced immense dehumanizing trauma from the horrible treatment (or should I say lack of treatment) that I have suffered at the hands of DRS/nurses that were supposed to be 'helping' me. After experiencing that, it's hard to get over the lack of trust you build with the medical community. Its sad, but it's real. You are in a better position having stage 4 cancer than being an addict in a hospital if that makes sense. Except you are treated like you are unsavable and already dead. You are the very last rung on the patient ladder. It's painful to be treated with such little respect and compassion.
I myself have laid on a trolley in the ER or a bed on the ward going through physical withdrawals and in agony. I end up bawling my eyes out when I hear the nurse or doctor talking to another patient in the room, ordering up all these pain meds at huge doses when I am barely getting an asprin!!!
It's quite true that you are better off being a cancer patient in hospital than someone who takes pain medication and who is also suffering.
I have severe nerve pain and its been well documented and I still get treated like a damm junkie buy the doctors when I go to the er. I am diabetic and sometimes I throw up my pain meds and go into withdraws. Then in the er I tell them I cant keep my pain meds down and havent been able to for several days and they look at me like I been shooting up heroin or something. One nurse right after I threw up and was like can you please ask the doctor if she can get me some nasua meds and some pain meds and she said another drug seeker great. I lost it. I never once have abuses my meds or ran out early I take them as I am told. Never been high and I just want my pain to stop. So I said excuse the hell out of you, you dont know a damm thing about me. Yah I admit I had kind of overdid it but keep in mind I was in alot of pain and also in diabetic ketoasadois. And this was not the frist time at this hosipital where I was not treated good. Luckily the doctor understood my situation and gave me my pain meds by iv. It sucks becuase doctors are the reson why we are in this epademic today as they pushed these drugs onto the pubic and now that they made their money and caused the damage they drop people from it and just make things worse.
Well, at least you, as an addict..still have the choice live or die...stage 4 cancer is basically a death sentence for someone struggling to live. I hope you make the choice for life. Best~
Try being young and being covered in tattoos. They treat you this way even if you don’t take drugs. They just assume you’re there for drugs even if your symptoms you’re complaining of would never warrant a narcotic. Last time the bitch nurse pointed out a random spot on my arm and insinuated it was a track mark even though there were clearly no other marks anywhere on me. I think the nurses are actually much worse than the doctors. Most entitled group of people you will ever meet. What other jobs are there where it’s ok to treat people like absolute shit just because you’re stressed or busy? Probably just cop honestly. I avoid doctors and hospital like the plague because it’s a dehumanizing experience for me every time. It makes me guilty even though I’ve done nothing wrong.
Wow. I’m really sorry to hear that you went through that awful situation. I totally understand you though. It’s really sad that some people just can’t avoid being judgmental like that. There’s just no excuse. Even if you are a complete junky. You deserve to be treated like a human being. But know that you’re amongst peers that understand you here. And we feel your pain. Quite literally actually. I hope you were able to kick the habit. And if you haven’t I hope you find the help that you seek. Good luck to you.
This pretty much sums it up for all recovering addicts.... I think one of the most challenging aspects of being opioid dependent is that, good bad right wrong or indifferent, ( not here to debate who’s fault it is why we became an addict etc. etc. most people can’t agree on whether it’s genetics or free well etc. so I’m gonna keep that out of the conversation for now) an opioid addict‘s pain receptors are usually pretty fried. I found that I have a much lower pain tolerance than I ever did prior to becoming addicted. Which scares me because if I ever get into a car accident or if I ever truly need pain medication I wonder if I will get the relief that I need. Anyway just another perspective....
One of my biggest fear since getting addicted. What if I ever really need it. Then what? I found out 6 months ago when in the hospital. Nothing even touches the pain and only time alleviates the hell you are going through!
Anna Gilleland I’m really sorry to hear that Anna. Are you now out of the hospital? Were you in for Covid or a car accident or something else? How are you feeling now? How’s your recovery going? Blessings
I’m documenting my methadone detox from 160mgs for 20yrs. I appreciate this video!! Been there done that. 🤷🏼♂️💪✌️❤️
Wow that’s a high dose I’m only on 20mg. Are you trying to get off methadone completely?
It was so good to see a caring and compassionate nurse like her! We definitely need more of them. I believe if people who needed help for their withdrawal would be treated better we would have less addicts. Most of them treat addicts and those going through withdrawal like crap so most don't seek help. There's a human being under all that trauma and addiction and they need to be treated as such! Also many people started out with a script from a Dr for pain medication and it used to be pushed too much with little to no concern about addiction or what happens to these people when they suddenly stop giving them the medication. Most cases an addict got started by the hands of a DR or NP and not a stranger on some street corner! Then they want to treat those same people like crap once their bodies and brains are completely dependant and destroyed by that addictive medication! I it's a sad cycle. I'm glad now days they prescribe less opiates for pain but then you still have these quack pain Drs and clinics that give you anything as long as you pay. Patients need treated better, addict or not!! If you can't have empathy, sympathy and compassion for your patients then you need to change careers!
Lol ya right. I'm a recovering addict myself. Never forget one time I was trying to detox myself took suboxone to help a bit and made it worse. ( didn't know any better at the time) went into crazy withdrawal symptoms called ambulance. In the hospital they treated me like absolute shit. I literally thought I was dying. The kicks were multiplied by 20. And they wanted aN EKG on me. As if I could sit sill for 1 second. They eye getting so frustrated with me because I literally could not sit still. I'll never forget the doctor. I had asked her a question and her comment was " I wouldn't know. I don't do drugs!" I was so angry. Hospitals don't give a flying fuck about addicts or anyone at times. They don't know people's lives and what they've been through. Treat EVERYONE as a human being!
Yep. And thies idiots with 8yr degrees think thier so incredibly smart but have no idea why the opioid epidemic is getting worse. I swear.. 99% of doctors are morons. All they do is prescribe what the pharma reps tell them to
Sorry you went through that. I know the agony of WD and to have insensitive folk around you makes it worse. Even on a detox unit the overnight staff acted as if 3 in the morning was the middle of the day and would shout down the hall. Sleep was impossible anyway but come on people!
@@glenbearh9109 oh yeah I remember being in rehab and they had to check on us every 15 minutes and scan our bracelets and they would literally slam the door on their way out never I don't think I slept the whole time I was there
M sorry but my sister is a heroin addict and she did not raise her daughter and stole from my parents….she does not deserve the right to be called a human being
@@chewie2055 it's too bad you feel that way. Addiction makes people do some horrible things in order to not be sick. You really have no clue unless you've gone through this yourself. Treating people that was will not help them.
ive been called a junkie, went to the er they done what the asian guy did, an now charging me 3500.00 dollars for nothing,
@John Bolton yea, they charge way to much for shit
Fuck hospitals
How are you now. I hope you're well
@@Bradlee297 I'm good bro thanks for asking about me.. Hope your doing well also
I just had heart surgery and when I asked my nurse for help she said ya I can help you but its gonna be awhile. 4 hours later she came to help. Nurses are not like this
I worked with outreach in UK. A 27 year old male came to the hospital complainIng of severe heroin withdrawl and wanted help to stop the symptoms. They reluctantly told him that they would treat his symptoms and he would get absolutely NO opiates for this.
Well, after 24 hours of vomitting everything, his esophagus tore, collapsing his lungs and sending him nearly into a coma. After a major operation and ONE WHOLE month in the I.C.U.and a week on the ward, the patient left weighing 100 lbs.
The judgmental draconian approach from the beginning clouded all judgment. They could have given him tramadol, codeine, any opiate in low doses to settle the WD and from a stable condition approach again. It was extremely careless, ended up costing 43,000+ pounds on the NHS.
Suboxone wasn't offered? Hell I thought the UK had some rather "liberal" opioid treatment plans, aren't there clinics that literally give heroin to some longtime addicts?
It takes a good nurse to see a person hurting and getting her help for her pain god bless that nurses 🇨🇦🙏🏽
DR: “Okay give her 2!!! Tylenol’s instead of one! And make it extra strength so she doesn’t say we don’t care”
runeplate123 Give her a full load of that H to feel better.. fucking idiot
@@jokerzheeyt no, but she could be stabilized using MAT and referred to outpatient MAT upon discharge.
@@jokerzheeyt You're right, that is EXACTLY what you should be doing. Give her heroin, morphine, oxycodone, fentanyl, I don't care which opioid you give her, but the withdrawal must be treated. Putting people into acute withdrawal of any substance is cruel, unnecessary, won't do shit in terms of successful addiction treatment, and can be potentially dangerous or even fatal to the patient depending on the circumstances (age, health, dehydrated/starved, other factors).
@@ryans7146 No, she needs an opioid to be stabilized, and referred to somewhere else, however it must be made sure that she's not going without opioids until she arrives there.
iWillWakeYouUp there are prescribed withdrawal medications that help with the symptoms without her body continuously relying on opiates. Are you actually in the medical field or just spitting words out your blown out asshole?
I did a (prescribed) Oxycodone withdrawal on my own in 2 weeks at home. From 80mg per day to nothing. I have EDS and DDD. The withdrawal was terrifying but the pain afterwards was unbearable so now I'm on Buprenophine patches. The good thing about them is, I can't take more if I want to. Thankfully, I was never treated badly by medical personnel. That, I will always be thankful for. My next goal, to reduce the patches to a lower dose.
To anybody else struggling with opiates, my heart goes out to you xxx
I promise to be this type of nurse as I go into nursing school.
Good luck with school 👍
Thank you for posting this.Practice more unconditional love and patience We are all fighting something.☮💟🕉
GOD I WISH THAT THIS WAS HOW THEY TREATED YOU BUT THEY DON'T AND IT'S HORRIBLE. THEY ARE BAD AND COCKY.. WITHDRAWAL IS SO PAINFUL.. ITS NOT HEALTHY TO BE IN PAIN. ..THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE LITERATURE ..LIKE THIS FOR NURSES SO THEY TREAT PEOPLE BETTER
I know first hand why patients are treated this way. MONEY/ insurance.
It's very sad that I can have a serious chronic pain condition, receive medically prescribed opiates from a Dr for that condition, & yet when I become physically dependant on narcotic meds I'm treated like an addict, which unfortunately is subhuman.
Healthcare workers are taught that addiction is a disease, yet they refuse to treat it in an ED setting. No one asked for this disease but many have asked for help to be free from it. What they're given instead is a lecture at best & cold hearted ignorance at worse. People don't have to suffer...but they do. People suffer everyday when they don't have to & I hope that history shames every last "professional" who did nothing to help.
So true, and 100 years ago there were more options over the counter! Back when we were free and before war on drugs
Birdie Jeffers I totally get you! I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome which causes me to dislocate joints all the time which is obviously painful and yet you still get judgement for your meds you’re on.
I'm at the hospital and there is literally an angel nurse like that. Other nurses wanted me to go through withdrawal but she agreed to give me methadone. She's really taking good care of me and makes sure I feel comfortable. I hope other nurses would be as humane as she is.
A nurse agreed to give you methadone? A nurse can't do that, only a doctor. Was it a nurse practitioner? Although I don't think even they can give methadone.
@@kellymarsh3956 Nurse gave me the medicine because doctor decided that
Only she asked the doctor to give me methadone, other nurses didn't want to do that
I made the mistake of telling the ER doctor I was a recovery addict when I went to the hospital for real bad back pain, vomiting and fever for 3 days striaght. I was peeing on myself and had no idea what was going on. I was not using at this time at all and was clean for over a year. But I would never make that mistake of telling an ER doctor that again if I am in serious pain. I was in the hospital for a week and it was terrible. I know they didnt want me to abuse. But how could I if they are watching me? Turned out I had a bad kidney infection. UTI, and an abstract on my kidney oh and kidneys stones. Though I never passed them that I know of. They said they might just desolve and was from the infection. So CLEARLY I wasnt faking my pain and how could I fake vomit and fevers? I was to the point where I was begging for help and crying. They treated me like I was an animal. Where as before they were treating me with so much care. I was trying to be responsible and tell them the truth because I was always told to never lie to a doctor. But I still regret that exsperience. It was the worst thing I ever went through. Worst then child birth. Probably because I was in agony for so long.... I just wanted help and they of course help with the infection and fever. But the pain from the infection was so bad I couldnt in lay down and move properly. Which sucked because they had fluids going through me so fast that I had to use the toilet every 15 to 30 minutes the whole week trying to make me pass the kidney stones... Watching this gave me hope that not all people are like this. But if they had to make a video about it then that must mean that this happens a lot.... This is sad.
Money is the only way you'll have a comfortable life as an addict.
Yea and there's never enough money
Totally
Absolutely mate! Even if you decide go to detox and rehab you may choose private clinic with comfortable conditions. As a random junkie from the suburb with twenty dollars in your pocket for sure you are treated like piece of shit in every public hospital.
If you are an addict with plenty of money then it won’t be long before you are a dead addict with money.
There is no comfortable life as an addict.
To all the doctors & nurses reading this right now (including those of you who are still in med school or interning) -- please, PLEASE always try to remember that ADDICTS ARE HUMAN BEINGS TOO & deserve to be treated as such.
I'm a former heroin addict myself, & before I got clean, the treatment I got from doctors & nurses was, for the most part, dehumanizing to an almost unbelievable degree. I remember being taken to the hospital one night after an overdose & the nurse on duty asked the doctor what she should do for me to make me more comfortable. His response? I'll never forget it -- "Whatever, I don't care, she'll be dead within five years anyway" & he simply walked off. I felt appalled & humiliated. As others in this comments section have mentioned, most drug addicts already have cripplingly low self-esteem & tend to see themselves as worthless pieces of trash. They're not proud of their addictions or the situations they've found themselves in. The last freaking thing we need is for a doctor or nurse to reinforce that idea that we're worthless.
After working decades in addiction medicine clinics and seeing the hospital side judgement is common..I have heard doctors claim the failure rate is astronomical and relapse almost unavoidable..The pharmaceutical industry did a good job covering up the risks of long term opioid use..Pain became the fifth vital sign and Hydrocodone the number 1 prescribed drug in America..Now many drug companies are claiming bankruptcy and the pain patients still suffer..
the SACKLER FAMILY who owned the pharmaceutical company which manufactured and PUSHED PUSHED and pushed some more regarding doctors prescribing this "supposed" miracle drug OXYCONTIN, deemed safe because of its "time-release" properties and strength. they didn't bother placing a chemical like narcan in there to deter addicts from abusing this drug (like they weren't aware this was INEVITABLY going to happen!!) and they marketed it with the philosophy that "opiates aren't as addictive as we thought"and that "people should not be undermedicated and be given maximum pain control without hesitation". their many marketing schemes included taking doctors to exotic all-paid-for locales which included seminars (over steak and lobster and wine no less)about this cure-for-all pain reliever which was recommended to be prescribed for such ailments as bee stings and migraines.the doctors took the bait (and the free pens and prescription pads marked OXYCONTIN) and prescribed freely. we know the rest of the story and the consequences of this DEMONIC MONEY-MAKING SCHEME still linger. the Sackler family ultimately were forced to pay out billions but because they made BILLIONS, it was a small price to pay. their solution was to put a chemical deterrent in the pill to make it "less" likely to abuse. the impact was devastating and many turned to heroin. overdoses followed. shortly after fentanyl made its introduction to the world. the attack continues.
I hate the power dynamics that has been created from this epidemic. I was on prescription opiates for a diagnosed pain disorder for many years. There were many times where the pain medication I had at home was not sufficient to bring my pain to a manageable level to the point I was passing out and bringing my blood pressure to dangerous levels. Once at the hospital I went through years of never knowing how I was going to be treated. Half the time I was drug seeking and the other half understood the seriousness of my situation. It was horrible and I developed a severe fear of going to the hospital. My doctors had even provided my local hospital with information and it was disregarded as him being “my drug dealer.” I found myself questioning if I was indeed a drug addict which was absolutely insane, but was a direct result of how I was treated by some doctors. My mental health was at an all time low a few years back and my therapist referred me to inpatient treatment twice. The majority of my depression and anxiety was related to how I was treated by certain doctors. Thank god my pain levels are much more manageable now with new treatment available but this has left me permanently scarred now to the point I refuse to go to the ER for fear of how I will be treated. Two years ago my appendix burst and I refused to go to the ER. The paramedics had to put me in restraints while I was hysterically resisting medical attention (I did not know how severe it was but they clearly did) and they saved my life. This is not something to be taken lightly. I am permanently affected by being mistreated at the hospital like this. I realize my situation is a bit different but addicts are human beings as well and deserve to be treated as such. Looking back the doctors who treated me horrible all appeared to be so self satisfied with their ability to be the gatekeeper of my suffering.
oh my gosh, girl i am SO SORRY that you had to go through this!!!!
My son was taken to the ER for chest pain by ambulance. The nurse was good to him until the doctor came in and started asking questions and they found out he was addicted to opioids. Things changed drastically after that.
i went to the hospital for an overdose and they cut me off all my anti depressants and anxiety meds and adderall and everything and then wondered why i felt suicidal and uncomfortable and like shit. they only gave me ibuprofen, and refused to give me my anxiety meds when i was having a panic attack. they watched me have a panic attack and did nothing. they watched me pass out and did nothing but sit in the corner of the room talking to the other nurses. this kind of help is extremely rare.
awful--shame on them, pure cruelty
I've been in the hospital many times in Chicago.....once I actually got on a floor my pain was well treated but I've encountered problems in er's. The worst by far was Weiss hospital. If any of you ever end up in that er and are in pain GOOD LUCK
I think every nurse in america needs to see this video. I have been in detox programs so many times that I cannot count. Now that is something huh ? I grew up in the 80s as a teenager and started smoking pot and drinking at 13. My parents divorced in 1982 when I was 11. My mother left the state and I stayed with my father. I was so out of control that my father beat me and made me sleep on the floor. A breakdown like the millitary. He was good at the breaking down but not the rebirth so to speak. This was my 14th birthday. I ran when he was not in the room. It was Febuary in Michigan so the snow was deep. I ran across a field ant to the dope mans house. A big stereo playing Black Sabbath with one guy smoking some pot he got from a guy that just got out of prison after 15 years. The weed was stored in a horse barn and smelled like horse shit when it burned. I was smoking this with him when my father knocked on the door. I tried to hide but the dope mans wife not knowing welcomed him in. I was so scared and I said that I needed to get my shoes on. He said I did not need them and thats when I said I would stab him. I had a small olive fork I found in an old barn. It was in my back pocket and I was so scared that I could not get it out. He grabbed me by the hair and threw me face down in the snow and got the fork. Then he held me by the hair with his arm out and squeezing so hard that I thought a chunk would come out. He walked me all the way home around the block with no shoes. When we got back to the house he told me to put my feet in cold water. Then he told my twin brother that I probably would not surivive the night. I had nerve damage pain for years after that. When I had my feet in the water I felt the weed I had smoked so it must have been strong. I lived with him until I was 16. He would suckerpunch me from time to time. I was locked up twice back then. Once for selling weed at school and the second tome was when I took a sledge hamner to his girlfriends car. I killed cats and burned places down. All the signs of a serial killer. Now I am 49 and had drank myself silly for years until I found pain meds in 1998. Back then you could Dr. Shop. It was not long till I was getting methadone doses everyday. I kicked that myself cold turkeyaround 2009. Then a little while later I found suboxone. I once kicked it and it is a 100 day mind fuck. It was so bad mentally that I would scream and reach our for something that was not there. I am back on it but just a half strip a day. I mix benzos and also take 1200mg of lyrica when I can get it. It hides the pain so it sucks when I do not have it. I have never told that story of my childhood to anyone. I hated my father for years for that but just thinking back makes me very very mad. I learned you can forgive but you never forget. You know what ? That history sometimes makes me the toughest guy in the room but the drugs shade me. What to do what to do ? Perhaps one day I will stop. If your going through hell keep going. Godspeed to you if you are reading this. And thank you
This is something that emergency docs should see. Heads up. Just because we are dependent on opiates does not mean we are drug seekers. We have legitimate pain and should be treated with respect.
The problem is there's no other medications out there stronger than opiates. Whatever a doctor gives you for pain won't match the level of relief the opiate did and if you are on it long enough your body gets used it and make the original pain and withdrawals even worse.
Coming off of heroin/fentanyl is like an exorcism. It's the most painful, anxiety ridden, soul crushing, emotional and physically damaging experience I've ever had. And I did it over and over again. Why? Because addiction is a mental illness, just like my PTSD and anxiety disorder. Only it's someone speaking to me in my head, in my own voice, telling me it's the only thing that will make me feel normal. And it is. Being physically dependent on opiates changes your brain. It affects the area of the brain that is responsible for survival (food, shelter, water) and that's why we feel we need it and keep going back. I learned that in rehab from a certified counselor for anyone who doesnt believe addiction is a disease and wants to come at me for not being a doctor. Addicts and those in recovery from addiction know more about what it does to us and how it feels more than any doctor or nurse could imagine. I've been treated like dirt for wanting help and seeking help. Laid in so many hospitals and detoxes in misery, wanting to badly to get better, but at the same time having no symptom management so it made it almost impossible for me to stay which is why I left most of them. 18 detoxes and 3 rehabs later here I am. Almost 2 years clean. I love every one of you. Whether you are an addict like me, doing anything to get your fix to not be sick and feel like you can get thru the day, whether you're in recovery from that and will never forget what that was like for us, whether you are on pain management for something that happened to you and got treated like an addict even if you aren't, whether you got a prescription for an opioid for something that was out of your control, and it lead to you becoming addicted to said opioid, whether you are a friend or family member of someone who is addicted to opiates, or perhaps lost someone to the disease like I have (about 40 friends in 3 yrs, I live in West Virginia, the number 1 overdose state), or even if you have no idea what this is like for people like us and blame us for what we've done to ourselves. If we could have known what that first use what have lead to, do you really think we would have done it? No one chooses to become an addict. We beat ourselves up enough without others doing it also. The opiate "epidemic" is now a pandemic. It has affected or is affecting or will affect most people, some way, some how. Compassion and empathy are necessary for us to all get thru it together. No one will probably read this bc its long af, but I just felt I needed to say it. I love you all and you are fucking worthy and special and am here for you ❤
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Wow, that was incredible. Thank you so much for putting this video together. I had a really strange case with a patient. Everhone was saying she was exhibiting drug seeking behavior. I couldn’t see how… I’m a new grad nurse so this video was very helpful. I was able to recall opioid withdrawal symptoms. I especially like the demonstration of how different nurses act… I really need more help on how to be a supportive and productive nurse in scenarios like this. Honestly, I felt so overwhelmed and incompetent meeting my patient’s needs. She was wailing so loudly about pain and I just didn’t understand how to make things better (“I rather die”). I. Felt. So. Helpless. And, I was trying my best at everything- not only that I’m still preventing so not everything is smoky yet…
I love the SBAR approach. I will use it if I’m assigned to that patient again.
I have never been on "street drugs" but have been pumped with more pharmaceutical ones then most people take in a life time in a short number of years following a motorcycle crash. I have had nurses treat me like I was an addict, even though I'd never abused a prescription, and under dose me after surgeries & I've had ones like this woman, who in fact have even scolded the other nurses for under dosing and putting me into withdrawls and giving me what my Dr prescribed properly. It's a shame, but because so many addicts do admit themselves to hospitals seeking drugs when they have no other option, some nurses are conditioned to respond like the first. I never took it personally, but I see a lot of comments here saying it's never like this, and it's not true. There are always bad seeds but there are still good nurses who are in the profession out of heart and not just for the paycheck. I will say though, vomiting only 3x? One time after a surgery when I was under medicated I was throwing up every 5 minutes to the point of coffee grounds and blood lol. I am so glad I'm not on those drugs anymore.
Yeah.ive kicked cold turkey just like "her in the video" but I wouldnt have been able to even communicate properly die to the constant vomiting nonstop and diahreah and cold sweatsand hot flashes and feeling I'm going to poopy pants and my bones hurting so bad I want to die. I hate how they always portray withdrawal like a semi cake walk compared to how it actually is
I am so glad a nursing college is teaching compassionate care. Hopefully those that learn this will not go with the majority of nurses when they go in the field of treating those with drug addiction poorly. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect and care, no matter their background. There needs to be a major overhaul in the field of nursing with judgement and treating others inhumanely. Imagine if that patient was a family member or friend, would you treat them poorly like that? I am glad to see compassionate care being taught in nursing schools..it should be constantly taught, and those going through nursing school now, please continue this type of care no matter what other nurses do or say. If you all continue to remain caring the field can change! Everyone deserves love and to be treated kindly!
I was admitted in Jan with pancreatitis with the pain was so severe that the first five nights I had no sleep and was ignored just like that guy was. I had a nurse that came in for the midnight shift and she was reminded me of the lady that just helped her out the other nurse. And I can say this kind of stuff is what makes it hard for people to get off of this.
I am a mat patient. That means I take methadone. In march I had to get my gall bladder removed. I had complications and had to go back to the hospital right after being discharged. I'm so grateful they didnt treat me like a drug seeker. I get their caution but I've been stable for 3 years.
Anyways, i was in so much pain they were giving me some pretty strong pain killers. My surgeon even had a daughter who was an addict and you couldnt fake the kind of pain i was in. Some nurses treated me like a drug seeking addict but i put them in their place real fast.
Anyways they didnt dose me one day to try and bring my tolerance down and i had to go to another hospital. When i got there i started going thru withdrawal. I didnt know what was happening as i have been stable for years. The nurse called it and helped me tremendously.
She immediately got me 2mg if dilauded so I can sit still long enough to run some tests. I am eternally grateful for nurses like her. I wasnt even a pain in the ass patient I was always polite, ect.
She got 80mg of oxy ER and 10mg diazepam. It's better now.
anno niem Relief at least
Wow, that's pretty liberal. Where I live I came in with a crushed vertebrae, after 10 hours of waiting for scans, they gave me a single 5mg oxy and sent me home with 4 pills. I got a regular script after that for about 10 months. Felt like a junkie calling in for my refill every time. Wd was hellllllllll.
@annoniem Yes... it’s all better now! 😂😂💀
They care more about their license than your health and emotions
this is the reason im becoming a nurse!! too many people get treated this way in the healthcare setting, if i can make even a little difference ill be happy! 5 more months to go!
How’s it going :) ?
As a nurse & a recovering heroine user( I say user because I was using it for pain & wasn't addicted only dependent) I know what it's like to be on both end of the spectrum. First time I seek treatment I was treated like the leaving nurse did & I failed, but the second time I seek treatment I was treated like the incoming nurse & yes, it worked. No more self medicating or extreme pain. How you treat your parients makes a hell of a difference in their lives. I still remember the faces & names of all the nurses, doctors & aids that helped me durng that time. They truly are worth remembering.
wow thanks for sharing girl!!
You still take opioids of some sort for chronic pain?
Can you rate your pain on a scale 1-10? Feels like a Mack truck just ran over my back! Lmao freaking heroin withdraws is a bich
"no surprise there"
Rude.
What a brilliant nurse! ♥️🏴X
Hello 👋
I’ve had pretty good experiences like this. I was homeless in Paterson NJ and was admitted to the hospital for a week for an abscess I needed surgery on, and they obviously knew I was an addict, but the whole week they had me on a morphine drip. i thought maybe bc they didn’t want to deal with me going thru withdrawals. And I’ve been in the ER after overdosing and woke up in the hospital and the doctor was incredibly nice and soo sympathetic. I always assumed a hospital visit for an addict would be like the example with the first nurse, but it turned out to be actually a good experience. I was lucky 🍀
Give her Valium if she's in a hospital setting
I wish this is how they treated me when I overdosed they totally treat u like shit and like a drug seeker when what we are really seeking is for the pain to stop
Every hospital needs nurse like her 💔❤️
Her Caribbean accent is a relaxing and comforting, I pray this woman is not just an actress but a nurse in real life! She's so sweet!