Copper Nanoparticles In Gelatin
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- This is based on Hybrid Copper Complex-Derived Conductive patterns Printed On Polyimide Substrates by Lee, Jeong et al, Met. Mat.Int. Vol. 18, No 3 (2012) for the formate reduction of copper oxide and a patent I read ages ago that I have lost the reference for about copper nanoparticles in gelatin and peptides. What I think is new here is putting these two ideas together.
Thanks Robert, you're my favourite teacher. Would be really cool to see your work on the youtube recommended videos one day, with millions of views.
lol - here's hoping mate
I was just performing Benedicts Reagent and Fehlings solution earlier today. Turned out a fantastic Canary Yellow. Now that you have taught me how to create a gelatine electrolyte, I can now continue my work. 🎩🧪🔬🧠 Curse the sad sacks that have to nick others findings. Bless you friend.
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You do great work, and I am learning quite a bit! Thank you so much for posting these videos! I am going to study even harder, even though I don't have a lot to work with.
I know about people scoffing at what one studies/does. I have asperger's, bipolar and ADHD. So it's hard to communicate effectively in a verbal fashion, though my written language is crystal clear. When I try to ask for help on these subjects, people tend to think I'm just making things up because my speech skills aren't what would be expected of someone who would immerse themselves in science.
You are an absolute inspiration, and have given me confidence to continue forward. You help people like myself visualize applications through your explanations of these processes in chemistry. I owe part of my successes in understanding these processes to you. I thank you again.
Once I find a safe place to start doing these things, I will make a youtube video so you can see how far I've come. :)
I am looking forward to seeing that mate - let me know when you post
That's really kind mate and thanks for posting
Learned something new today. How to make copper nano particles in a fluid.
Thanks for sharing. Your teaching skills show off.
glad you liked it mate
Fair play to ya Robert!! First time iv'e ever heard of this. As chelaters go, I've been exploring the world of sodium aluminate and experimenting with different copper salts and other metal salts. I find copper salts very compelling and most of my endeavours rest on the copper element. So glad to see this video...
Nice I will give you props watching you graphene vids I came to the same idea about using safe cow collagen as a binder. Now watching your older stuff I find you had the idea already. I think your a great teacher. Thanks for your time
+youel adamas thank you mate and thank you for taking the time to write
Gelatin is an interesting base as it sticks tenaciously to glass and you can make it waterproof with dichromate in a photographic process so you could print circuits with it.
I fully agree with you about giving credit to those who are due.
Fantastic tip! I will try to follow your receipt and your concept. Thank you!
cheers mate
I have never seen red copper oxide. All my leftover copper salts I reduce the copper oxide and they're always black. I like to store all my copper salt is oxide because it's so quick and easy to generate any form of the salt from the oxide state. I must be passing the stage of red LOL.
I've been away for quite a while and I'm so glad because there's a hundred videos to watch and it's very exciting lol.
Edit, copper (I) red/brown
Glad you made this one 👍
Be a good example and wear safety glasses
Thanks for the knowledge I was wondering if one could make a copper ceramic nano coating that protects steel from heat.
Robert, your videos are a treasure. For instance today I was wondering if I could disperse copper nanoparticles in gelatin to form conductive ink... I have a question. How do you open your microwave after microwaving formic acid? It turned my one room apartment into a gas chamber once before. The fumes burned in my lungs and my eyes and I had to evacuate hastily. I was trying to dissolve tin in formic acid, don't remember why. I think it did dissolve. So did the interior of my microwave. I believe I have plenty of copper oxide from ordinary non microwave reaction of CuSO4(aq) with Al. The powder I obtained reacts with formic acid 85%, forming azure blue. Awesome! However my CuSO4*nH2O(s) doesn't seem to be reacting with the acid. I now lack the courage to pop it into a microwave. Another question would be where to conduct my search. I read in Tesla notes on TV signal about concept of carbon printing. He wrote that gelatin treated with dichromates turns rock hard and impermeable to water. I cannot find anything more about the physical characteristics of such gelatin or about the possible hazards related to toxicity of encapsulated dichromates. I think I can obtain them easily by electrolysis of stainless steel. Once the electrolyte runs dry it turns from murky gray to bright orange.
Wow. That is brilliant stuff. Vegans and vegetarians will have a mental meltdown at the thought of gelatin however. I have no issue with it however. I am trying to find the copper fulminate Robert has also made. Anyone got a clue which video that is? Keep up the good work.
Wonderful Robert!
Well done.. You are a very cleaver and interesting man ..Thank you,This is food for my brain,I am only a backyard fiddler..cheers..
THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 lol - cheers mate
Brilliant! Would this coat silver as well, or does it only adhere to iron? I also wanted to say that I really respect you sharing this discovery - and I'm so sorry there are jerks appearing claiming it as their own. Perhaps you could patent it yourself. You could market it as a jewelry making product as well as electronics. Crystals in copper are getting pretty trendy on Etsy, even with that rough texture you spoke of in another video.
I suspect not as it relies on the electronegative difference and is really a displacement reaction - i never really patent stuff - a lot of this is just free knowledge for everybody - or at least that's my view - but i am glad you found it useful
audio volume is very low.most of key words are not understood..nice to display the names of chemicals being used.
Good job! Can I use acetic acid instead of formic acid?
Good day sir i was just wondering if you could list all the the required ingrediance and tempatures used in this process thank you
Thank you, I'm not as ignorant as the day before.
ok I am loving the videos is there anywhere in Australia I can buy ready made copper nano gell/past? although I will be trying out lots of your ideas ( as man cave projects) my first aim is to rebuild and plate a radiator surround for my car restoration project, the science bit is a bit of a distraction just at the moment? again brilliant videos! makes a change from my background in joinery and polymer welding of Dam liners :)
+Adam Scott I don't think you can buy it mate pretty much you are going to have to make it - but it really isn't that difficult - do some videos and i will try to help
OMG this is from 2014! It all sounds very complicated. I just want to copper plate some stainless steel.
Is there anything that can be substituted for the formic acid?
4:35 serious bass.....
Cheap, simple and give good results. That s why I like your channel.
Do you think an eutectic solvent can replace the gelatine?
it would be worth a try mate
I agree. Seems I’ve come across some that are duplicating your processes. Yet really don’t give the credit due.
Have you tried other acids apart from fumeric such as citric acid or acetic acid? With the copper nanoparticles stabilised in gelatin have you tried to chelate them in EDTA to form a stable water dispersion?
This is a wonderful process. Thank you for sharing! Would this coppering gel work on stainless steel? I am thinking about copper plating my stainless steel kitchen appliances.
i don't know - but worth trying - let me know how it works out
So is this the stuff you used to rub on the paint scraper in the other video for plating steel without electricity?
pretty much
The one dislike was the thief.
lol - yeah probably lol
lol - awesome - people are funny
I'm trying to find red copper oxide, but on ebay is only ebay black copper oxide. Does that make any difference?
it makes a difference - use red and look for it with pottery suppliers
Thx mate!
Thank you very much for the information, I would like to know something; I was reading about gelatin as I am also using it as a polymer composite in my project, they saying that when you microwave gelatin, its proline part changes from l-proline to d-proline and they said if it changes it becomes toxic, so i wanted to hear your opinion on that matter
Khumbulani Mnqiwu i have no opinion
Robert Murray-Smith
I do appreciate you are sharing your knowledge and ideas, Sir.
And I do hope that Hannibal Lecter smile you had mentioning credits will scare the s.. out the thiefs as well... :)
As not being a native english speaking person, I have to concentrate strong on your words to understand everything right, would you please consider setting up a better microphone to avoit that echo? Maybe some sort of a donation opportunity would help you get it with the help of your viewers community...
h4z4rd42 will do mate
can you heat up the formic acid to hot and cause it to all go bad, or would it have to boil off to be ruined?
Good video Rob, I actually make lots of different colloidal metals. Gold, Silver, Copper and some rare metals too. About stealing ideas, I see so much of this going on it is just not funny. Gold turns Ruby red when the particles are around 2-5 nM. I use citric acid and sodium bicarbonate with Gold but it still clumps maybe this would work with Gold too????
Thomas Anderson i don't really know mate - but it sounds like a good idea to try it
Robert Ritchie worth a try mate
Robert Murray-Smith huh? sorry not sure what this was to, I was just asking if the formic acid could be ruined by getting it too hot. I was having trouble finding the video where you used formic acid and copper sulfate or acetate and then used them from boiling but did not say how long you waited for them to cool off or if you waited at all, to ask the question cause that is the one I was following and it did not work for me for some reason :(
so I was probing here to see if maybe I could find out what I had done wrong.
right now I have a jar with the two mixed that were boiling when I mixed them, (copper sulfate/water solution and formic acid) that is still just a green (lighter than before due to being diluted by the added formic acid I am gathering) and has been sitting over night with still no copper precipitate or change in color at all, also when it was done mixed by pouring I continued to mix it a lot more with a bamboo rod, but now that I think of it I think you used a stainless spoon, maybe this is where I went wrong?)
Robert Murray-Smith Well I hope you don't think I am stealing your ideas. I am building a CNC machine have you seen my videos yet?
Good ideas are like fresh poo they will attract flies and maggots LOL.
You used 300 bloom, porcine gelatin. Where do you get it from? Also, does it have to be this type? CouId I use beef or vegetable gelatin, and does it have to be a specific bloom?
+Marilyn Kurman I just bought it on e-bay - as to the rest I am not sure - i am guessing it doesn't really matter - but you will have to experiment to be sure
I prefer PVP to gelatin - more stable over the long term.
Which acid you use with mix of water please write here
Will this work on aluminum?
Send me link of this research article
Hi, I couldn't understand what is the alternative to formic acid, is it ascorbic acid, or sorbic acid? you see, there seems to be some sort of regulation regarding the selling of formic acid where I live, not sure why though... I'm still trying to contact a local pesticide maker to get some samples of formic acid but my expectations are pretty low.
just buy some kilrock kettle descaler mate - that's formic acid - but the alternative is ascorbic acid - which is vvitamin C
Thanks Dude!
BTW, I was presented with the alternative of obtaining formic acid from oxidation of formaldehyde... in fact it seemed so obvious after I was told that, that I really felt the need to get some high school Organic Chemistry classes again.
Mateus Battalini
lol - we can't know everything mate and you have to get the formaldehyde first in the UK gettting formaldehyde is worse than buying formic acid - curious i know - actually because I am a lab I can get most things but i try to think of what people who don't have a registered lab can get hold of
Actually I'm in Brazil, which probably makes this stuff a litle easier to get than it is to British people.
Apparently they regulate the selling of formic acid due to it's potencial use on making explosives, not sure about how they deal with formaldehyde, sure it's a kinda dangerous chemical, but I've been told that it's easier to get around here.
Mateus Battalini
i heard this saying once - locks keep out an honest man - if you are determined to get in - locks do no good - it seems to apply here - you can make explosives from loads of things - including bread flour - passing laws to restrict chemicals on the basis of they might make explosives seems very silly to me - or drugs - you can make a very powerful narcotic from drain cleaner and nail varnish remover - ah well
Kool
could you use agar gelatin?
That's an interesting question. My understanding is that he's using gelatin to get protein to cap the copper. Agar is a polysaccharide, with a tiny fraction of protein--but maybe it's enough?
Good Sir Robert, i would like to ask for your permission, to download large groups of your videos on to micro sd drives for my personal library?
....and maybe also a hundred more, to give to fellow aspiring chemists and metallurgists that i meet?
The implications of even a small hand full of your videos is more than enough motivation for me to do what i can to spread your discoveries and to give credit where credit is do.
What better way to do that, then to carry your entire video library in my pocket when im going to a trade or tech convention.
I know of semi-reliable manufactures lol ...that sell 16gb micro flash drives for $5 USD when bought in bulk. (Thank you CHINA) i would like to give away 100 collections of your work and it will only cost me $500 USD. If only one of them changes the world for the better....money well spent!
Id like to even hot glue the sd drives to business cards, that would be the best contact card i ever got! lol
+MissFit ToyMaker lol - please do mate - it is really kind of you to ask first and it is well appreciated here is my e-mail address
robertmurraysmith64@gmail.com
I can contribute to some of the expense if you like
You are amazing Robert, truly amazing. I come from an extremely poor background and was never lucky enough to study chemistry, but I find your video's fascinating. Thank you, thank you
i am glad you enjoy them mate and good luck with your own experimenting if you get a chance
7:24. Have you considered a Creative Commons license? It should nip that issue in the bud.
i don't mind people using my work mate - i mind them claiming it is theirs - but hey ho - it's all part of the world we live in and I have had my moan so i'll probably just forget it now lol
Robert Murray-Smith That is why I metioned CC. You can use a CC attribution to make sure you are credited.
Copper formate breaks down to carbon dioxide, hydrogen and copper. But these particles are not copper nanoparticles. Copper nanoparticles must be necessarily handled in inert atmosphere or with an oxygen scavenger to preserve their purity. At best, as you said they are large particles. Is the title is misleading?
kewl our group name is "ALOIS" done deal :D
Did I miss a new video on GO. earlier?
I don't know - you might have done - what made you think that you might have?
I thought I seen a new vid post yesterday on GO. thought maybe you pulled the video... But I might have miss read it, been know to do that with my poor eye sight.
Dan Murphy
yeah i did green tea reduction of GO - by the way what does the 'A' stand for?
Robert Murray-Smith A league Of Independent Scientist :)
Dan Murphy
lol cool
Social distancing of copper lol
BUT WHAT DO U DO WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
are you kidding me - have a read and think
I was just teasing ;*> best wishes Rob I've learned more from you in a few hours than in a year of college chemistry which was all mathematics. I was a really good amateur chemist and it was the one course I flunked in college .. out of boredom - "todays scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander off in equation after equation, and eventually build a structure that has no relation to reality" - Tesla
lol - very funny mate - and i love the quote!