"You lock any living creature up in a cage, first thing it does is circle that cage looking for a weakness. Even a plant you put in a dark corner, it will grow towards the light". Powerful words by John Massey.
I delivered to his mum as a postman. Really funny lady, she was always talking about her son, who was in prison, a really lovely woman. Little did I know this man was her son. She was very ill and I remember the amount of police cars/vans who turned up looking for him in Castlehaven Road as he had escaped to say his goodbyes to her.
@@fgoogleinthea7475 what I’m saying is I understand why he escaped to go see a dying family member do I think he should be let off because of his reasons no I don’t but it doesn’t mean people can’t sympathise with him and his reasons
Wow 43 years this guy will never get back, he literally missed out on his whole life. Honestly if I was him at his age I wouldn’t even want to get out of prison. He literally said the day he’s truely free is the day he dies.. this interview here was a big eye opener & this needs to be showed to the youth because we have this generation running wild stabbing & killing each other for what ? Postcodes or gangs. It’s very sad to see what this world has become. Thank you for this wonderful interview.
Please quit the rose tinted glasses perspective on the past. It is simply and demonstrably absolute bullshit. “What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.” If you don’t already know, I’ll leave it up to you to check out the source material.
He actually looks really good for a man in his 70’s. He’s done his time and it was hard time and I hope he has a fantastic life in his remaining years.
These people that have gone through similar experiences develop a natural poetry in them and with the way they talk The way he ended this was so amazing and harshly tender
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I remember reading a news article in 2012 online about a prisoner escape, i remembered his name after all these years John Massey, i looked more into it and it made me sad to see someone make a huge mistake when they were young and grow old in jail, it's crazy i just clicked on this video and i never recognised him at all he looks so different from the 2012 mugahot (which for some reason i remembered perfectly) and when they were saying his first and last name I couldn't believe it. Im glad he's out now, hope he lives the rest of his years happily.
This comment section really hammers home how little people understand about criminality in general. First of all, this interview is not about how he feels about committing murder, it’s direction is clearly towards his time in prison and his 4 escapes (considering the thumbnail of the video this should be pretty clear). Maybe he doesn’t feel remorseful, maybe he does - as we don’t have access to the entire interview we have no idea what his feelings about the killing are. I don’t think John felt very comfortable during parts of this interview, you can tell based on how his vocality and mannerisms change whilst speaking, and the constant nervous movements he makes with his hands. He goes from being almost boisterous to being very removed and quiet, which again should give you a pretty clear indication of how he feels whilst discussing this topic. To all the people complaining that these videos “humanise criminals and their crimes” have you ever considered that criminals are indeed humans and don’t magically cease being one when they commit a crime? That is the entire point of these videos, showing us that behind the hardened exterior there is a real human being there. Consider his upbringing, the fact his dad was in and out of prison, him being abused as a child and the people he was in borstal with - of course he still had a choice as to his path in life but coming from poverty and being given the chance to have some money for the first time in your life, it would hard to say no (especially considering how he probably felt towards the establishment at that point in his life). If you haven’t lived that life, you can’t honestly say that you have any idea what it was like. Of course he deserves to go to prison for killing someone, that goes without saying. Prison however, isn’t rehabilitation. We don’t have enough space or money to just lock up “dangerous people” indefinitely until they die to “protect the public”. We have to find ways as a society to fix the broken cycles and situations responsible for creating criminals. You can’t sugar coat what he did, but the story of his actions and the consequences need to be told in order for people to actually learn something.
I strongly suspect that a lot of working class children with unrecognised neuro#developmental disorders, delays and learning difficulties were horribly mistreated by the educational system and pushed into criminality.
The man he Killed that night, ws a man called Charlie. My Dad was supposed to be working on the door with him that night. Lets not glamourise this, John was sentenced for murder, it was John Massey and John Massey alone who was responsible for his sentence being prolonged as it was. It was self inflicted. I'm glad he is looking well after such a long period of reflection.
Yes, this is a cold, cold man with a warm voice. I understand he's telling the story from his own perspective, but wow. I also think about him stealing cars. I worked so long and hard to buy my car. It's expensive to keep it, too. It would be a huge deal to me if it were stolen. Eh, to him it's just a lark. And to shoot the bouncer who was doing his job-- I don't like this guy.
@@chanwtv, cap has relatively recently become slang for lie. So just imagine they replied with the word lie. And this is very common in UA-cam when somebody shares a story like that. With no evidence to the contrary, just their trolling instincts, these people will say anything is a lie.
This is indeed an eye opener for the young people. Get your life together and see what good you can do for yourselves. Fnd way while you can, invest and het money the legit way. Find an expert like that of oliver west and make a fortune for yourself .
The guy never had any remorse in this video. "No point crying over spilt milk" is the closest he gets. Minimises all over the place. Blames his nature, the bouncer. He was too nice and flash so the bouncer attacked him- bullshit. You just got suckered by a career criminal with very little remorse crying about what he lost not that hes a murderer. Still moaning at the end that he's still serving a life sentence. He's a murdering prick with no remorse. .
3 mins in and even from a totally different culture I can just see it drippin off him. This guy reminds me of the dude that taught me just cause someone's old doesnt mean they're soft. That was an important lesson for me n showed me what that life leads u to being
This man is something special indeed. What a story, truly. Appreciate listening to this and wishing him only the best from here. Tough mind, tough hands, tough life. Special regardless.
Tough hands? He shot someone over fifty cuffs. No different to these kids with zombie knives who can't hold their hands up. Doesn't detract from how mentally tough he is to do that kind of bird and nor crumble.
I met this man fourteen years ago, and still remember the conversations we had. He made me laugh, and I found him to be personable, and quite philosophical about his situation. In actual fact, a nice bloke.
the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that. what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa... he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family. he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did. it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
@@monkey7431_ who cares ? exclusive or not, the point is HIS feelings are irrelevant since they don't seem include any remorse or regret. Why are people like you so apologetic ? would you be so if it was your loved one who was brutally murdered ?
Absolutely, this guy is a testament to how we are all stuck where we are due to society. He is a product of his upbringing and life, he made ends meet the best he could. Laws are man made, and the rich can buy their way out.
Talks about his mum's smile but not the fact that his victim's mum never got to smile at her kid again. Sucks that he lost out on a life lived but sucks even more for the life that was taken. The lack of remorse in this clip doesn't make it seem like he'd have turned his life around and done good if released early
exactly the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that. what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa... he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family. he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did. it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
@@fsociety.dat101but he does mention things, things about HIS loss (of time), things about HIS loss of life he will never get back.. what about his victim?, his victim didn't lose part-of-a-life he lost it all. that isn't just a little omission of expressed remorse that is the definition of NO remorse.
Tbf i never heard the interviewer ask any questions about remorse/thoughts of the victim. The victim also stabbed a guy in the eye, so he was far from angelic himself. Personally don't feel sorry for either of them, just their innocent families
@@redskyatnight123 I think it was called What Makes a Murderer and they investigated the neuroscience and developmental events that led each murderer to become a murderer. They looked at how specific parts of the brain didn't develop properly or were damaged due to things that happened to them / genetics etc... I thought it was so interesting any ways
@@sarahfellows3074sadly so many children that grow up in non suitable circumstances have this issue. It’s to do with living in fight or flight mode or constant vigilance. Adrenaline does damage to the developmental parts of the brain. Sadly I grew up in such circumstances and it takes a lot of time and a lot of soul searching to understand why your life isn’t where it should be or why things never work out. This man grew up in care homes and no doubt experienced many things that he won’t ever talk about
Listening to this interview there was so little remorse towards the actual victim who was killed or the family who have lost a loved one. It came across more like the guy who carried a loaded gun, willing to use it against anyone who did him wrong and then took someone elses life, was the one suffering because he had to answer for his crime.
@@rachaelferguson7046watch a documentary that's based on the victim then instead of watching an interview about the perpetrator knowing what to expect lmao
@@Foxhound1Ninethat has f*ck all to do with taking a dig, leaving and shooting someone. Can't take a dig. The same people in the comments would be giving the youngsters of today ag in comments for carrying zombie knifes cos they can't hold their hands up. Just cos he wraps it up articulate words and wears a suit doesn't make it any different.
I like it how the editors add captions for the perfectly understandable interviewer, but completely ignore the guys with thick northern British accents
To deny any one saying good bye to their dying Mother is cruel beyond belief. Regardless of his actions before... that is a system that wont improve anything.
What I don’t understand is he went to prison in 1975 for a minimum of 20 years but his first escape wasn’t until 1994. Why on earth would you spend 19 years in prison to then decide to escape when he had the possibility of a release in another 12 months time 🤯
Shawshank-“That amount of time, it changes a man” in reference to the librarian attempting to kill another inmate after being told he was up for release after a 20+ year sentence. Could you believe he wanted to stay?
'I just think it's unnatural to be locked up - and the main thing that drove me [in my escape efforts] was family'. Funnily enough, I think it's unnatural to murder people, and my thoughts are with the family of the innocent man John killed. He mentioned that bloke once. Once in half an hour. His view is that prison is unnatural; mine is that unnatural people who do unnatural things surely belong in unnatural places. I want to know about the man in this situation, not his murderer. I want to know what he was like, what his family loved most about him, what his dreams and ambitions were in life, what he did for the people around him, what he gave to this life before John coldly took it away from him.
well you came to the wrong video if you wanted to know about him... These videos are about the exeriences in the title... Prison is unnatural. The conditions are. The diet is. There are many aspects of prison that is unnatural hence why it is a PUNISHMENT.
exactly. the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that. what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa... he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family. he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did. it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
It's not unnatural. We're the top species because of our propensity for violence. It's inside every one of us and has been since the dawn of man. Only a civilized society has made us hide that part of us. We all wear masks. I've seen the brutality and willingly participated in it in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are savages. You'd kill to protect your family wouldn't you?
I admired your silence towards your fellow participants to your detrem, I hope you have a peaceful life and a loving partner keeps hugging you forever.😊
Bouncers and policemen can be the biggest bullies. If someone is holding a gun on you why would you choose to punch them ? The guy is already upset that his friend inside was screaming . He is 25 or so and been drinking . There are just some people you don't challenge especially if they already are holding a gun on you. He said he never meant to kill anyone when he tried to go back in after his friend . I just know he was young and drinking and deep down regrets many of his life choices. But he can never go back and change them. He can only look forward to try to be a better person with what life he has left .
Funny how u victim blame the poor bouncer and yet make every excuse for the murderer 🤦♂️ he said shooting the bouncer was like an instantaneous reaction yet went back in the club and shot the place up.
@@honeybadger9001 guess you never had a gun pointed at you ? You don't try to punch someone who has a gun on you . The people inside were basically torturing his friend inside . That's the reason he went inside and shot the place up . Many clubs and club owners are sleazy anyway . Not saying the guys an angel but he was probably around 24 ? I remember going into a bar being about that age and having guys in there 30's and 40's trying and thinking they were going to just take my girl from me ! Same with bar owners , that happened also. Your naive
@@vainwretch I think you’re the naive one mate. You seem to be swallowing the narrative their mate was being tortured and like Rambo these heroes shot the place up as they had no other choice. That’s BS. Their mate wasn’t tortured he was glassed in a bar room brawl. Ppl receive horrific injuries in fights all the time. They left to ‘get tooled up’ so it wasn’t like they shot in a sudden self defence. They could’ve got their mate out of the situation there and then. But they chose to go away and bring guns. So again not buying that he never intended to shoot anyone. If u bring a gun ur aware u may use it. He was 24 so clearly able to understand the seriousness of the situation. I’m saddened that he chose that particular path in life, but he’s shown little remorse or change of character,m so I have zero sympathy for his being locked up for so long. Absolutely best decision for the safety of the law abiding public. Any sooner he most likely would have returned to that life. Also don’t know what kind of establishments you’re visiting where guys try to steal your women all the time? I’ve been to loads of clubs and bars and 99% of the time confrontation can easily be avoided. Walk away. It’s ego and male bravado that leads to trouble. Maybe you’re naive for returning to these bars so maybe try somewhere different 😂
@@honeybadger9001 no i don't think he had no choice . He probably had older men thinking they could run over him and chump him out. He shot up the bar to make a statement. I have had guns pulled on me , i made sure i stood still . I was young and my women were hot . I am older than 60 , these were different bars . He was a dumbass for shooting the guy. The bouncer was a dumbass for punching him while holding a gun. His friend was screaming from inside must have been very distinguished establishment. Anytime you are out and about and close down a club stuff can happen in a split second . I closed down many clubs back in the day.
I have seen bouncers looking for a excuse to abuse people for no reason other than power tripping . Seen lots of fights over women , gambling bumping into someone. I have been in many bar fights because of people thinking they could take me . Arrested for it several times . I have seen bouncers abuse people and i have fought with bouncers .
I wish nothing but happiness and great health 2u and your loved 1's John. Lots of Luv from Florida. U seem like a wonderful man. I hope u enjoy your day's until the very last 1. 🙏🇺🇲🗽🏴🙏
Really enjoyed watching this and I hope you never stop making him, but it didn't seem like he felt much remorse for killing that man. Don't think he mentioned it even once after describing the event.
@@CrustyBalls007he’s probably had a lot of time to regret what he’s done. He’s human, he doesn’t need to feel anything specific just because you believe he does. 43 years. Why would he spend the rest of the time he’s got left feeling sorry for what he’s done, I know I wouldn’t.
@@sueleishajade6377 its one thing to not spend his life feeling guilty about it, its another thing to be interviewed specifically about his life behind bars due to the senseless murder of an unarmed man and show no remorse for it. He essentially discribed the killing as if it was just an every day event and he was the real victim for having to spend time in jail for it.
You see all these ex-criminals portrayed as nice, harmless people in these "minutes with" interviews, but I bet back in the day he was a right horrible bastard. I've not got an awful lot of sympathy for the years he lost in prison
@@willgoodall1529 the general population mostly gets dead from eating far too much. If the government really cared about saving lives they would ban certain foods and save hundreds of thousands of lives each year. I mean accidents at home, essentially ladders, kill 10 times the number of people annually than die in homicides in the UK. And most of those homicides are inter-criminal disputes. He’s not a measurable danger to ‘the general public’ on any scale.
exactly. the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that. what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa... he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family. he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did. it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
Why do these people always fail to tell the full story, i.e. what his behaviour was like in prison, i.e. that he went home to get a shotgun and went back and shot the bouncer in cold blood. The reason he was refused to go and see his dying mother was because he was a massive escape risk and horrendous behaviour, prison service doesn't reward bad behaviour!
I was in pentavile prison with him great guy i remember when he escaped from vill saw him at the gym and the next day he was gone very fit guy for his age
Thank you sir for sharing your story. Especially how you said you were still not free. How the govt. Can make up any excuse to do what they want. Very prescient for these times. Heartfelt thank you. Makes me think about my own life.
Am I the only one who’s ears pricked up when the lady asked him “what are you doing these days” and he replied with “I’m still doing the odd job”….before he followed up with carpentry 😂 Seems like a decent guy. Just unfortunate circumstances happened.
Don’t blame the guy for breaking out to see his terminally ill mum, yeah he deserves the time for what he done but his mum didn’t deserve not to see her son one last time before she died
you put anyone in a suit and you paint a certain picture. put politicians in shorts and a t-shirt and you can begin to see a real horror show. Appearance really is an illusion.
exactly the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that. what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa... he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family. he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did. it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
The last part that fella was saying about time he could never get back and old memory mind games with yourself exactly what I go through being a drug addict it's just like being in Prison
Unfortunate childhood, wrong crowd, bad influences.. these things turned what clearly is a nice man into a criminal. RIP to the man he killed, I hope his family is well. Also, I hope this guy has a good rest of his life as a free man, hopefully he gets a few decent years of freedom. He paid for his crimes with his life.
@@danielkarmy4893 God you guys sound like you’re from the Victorian era. prison is not an effective deterrent. He literally learned to be this kind of person in cruel juvenile correctional facilities. You have such an out-dated and disproven approach. Not to mention that globally prisons are overflowing. They are breading grounds for further criminality and are a form of cruel and unusual punishment. Not to mention, getting a job as a bouncer in a rough east end pub in the 70s was not without its risks. The bouncer would have known that when he accepted the job.
The doorman was only doing his job & only had his hands to defend himself. Shooting him in cold blood was a despicable act of extreme cowardice. The only thing worth taking from this story is that justice was served in his long incarceration. If he’d at least had the courage to face the doorman like a man regardless of the outcome, two lives would’ve been saved
I feel like people are very caught up on him not showing enough remorse, as if that delegitimises his experience. First of all: This is a story about how a society shapes a criminal, which is not a process that leaves much room for remorse. If you are that damaged in your childhood, maybe that's not an option for his brain. That's what happens when you're brought up on violence. And Second of all: The emphasis here is on the unfair punishment, relative to other people who done worse. The man was tortured quite frankly, for a long time. And the main part of his sentence was punishment for escape attempts not the murder, which I like him find ridiculous. Also it he was drunk and angry, it wasn't even premeditated. It was a mistake, and that's what a mistake looks like if you've been brought up like he has. Also don't think 43 years of prison strengthens the remorse muscle. Third of all: The people here who think justice wasn't served, are misguided in my opinion, because with your logic the death penalty is the only way to do that. And if we did like you seem to suggest, it would just be the American justice system which isn't a great example (again in my opinion). Actually I don't think he would even have gotten death in America. You call for revenge, but I would call for rehabilitation. That is the way that in unfortunate circumstances causes the least suffering in total. I'm danish, I think our system is somewhat fair, read about it, maybe you would be inspired to forgive instead.
This man's parents massively failed him. I also don't see him wanting to take any real responsibility for the fact that he took a person's life! Of course prison is hard, but he killed a man!
A much longer sentence for the family of the mans life you took. Surprised no questions on that, and the end music like he’s some sort of sad story to tell. Should have kept your head down.
25:19 I swear on my life the moment i started spilling milk into the sink this man said this I can’t even believe the line up. Wtf the moment I started spilling the milk
Reading the comments here is quite surprising. Let's not forget why he was locked up in the first place. He murdered someone, that persons family and friends will have to live with his absence for their whole lives. He said what happened, but he didn't show any remorse for his actions or apologise to the family of the person he shot. A 20 year sentence for murder is far to lenient in my opinion. Granted the prison system is flawed and I believe visits to see very ill family members should be allowed. But he took someone else's life, that cannot be undone. So he eventually served 43 years, I think that's fair.
exactly. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
Bouncers and policemen can be the biggest bullies. If someone is holding gun on you why would you choose to punch them? The guy is already upset that his friend inside was screaming.
43 years taken out of the best part of a life, what a waste, not suggesting he didn't deserve it, it was what it was. What saddens me is the US justice system, watched a few doc's on children with full life terms, not all for murder, one lad was 15 when he committed his crime, nobody was physically injured, but he received a life sentence without parole, full life term, a teen who committed a crime at 15 The program was regarding the change in sentencing guidelines for children receiving life without the possibility of parole, so they were given hearings and sentence reductions, this lad's sentence was reduced to 55 years, 55 years, he'd be better off staying in.
Thank you to John for taking part. You can buy his book here - www.amazon.co.uk/Locks-Bolts-Bars-Life-Inside/dp/1803991038
Charles bronson served 47 years she brotish longest serving prisoner not this old guy
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Very moving.
Why would we financially support a murderer?
"You lock any living creature up in a cage, first thing it does is circle that cage looking for a weakness. Even a plant you put in a dark corner, it will grow towards the light". Powerful words by John Massey.
Not really
Depends on how intelligent the creature in question is.
I was literally reading your comment as he said that
@@ThePsychonaut420no way me too. I was just about to say that.
"don't kill someone and break out of prison" - common sense
I delivered to his mum as a postman. Really funny lady, she was always talking about her son, who was in prison, a really lovely woman. Little did I know this man was her son. She was very ill and I remember the amount of police cars/vans who turned up looking for him in Castlehaven Road as he had escaped to say his goodbyes to her.
Wow what a story
Amazing story I can’t hold it against him for trying and escaping with his reasoning
That’s awesome you stumbled upon this video to hear the backstory!
@@PLAUG3DR You can't hold it against him? He's a disgusting monster. I hold this against you.
@@fgoogleinthea7475 what I’m saying is I understand why he escaped to go see a dying family member do I think he should be let off because of his reasons no I don’t but it doesn’t mean people can’t sympathise with him and his reasons
Wow 43 years this guy will never get back, he literally missed out on his whole life. Honestly if I was him at his age I wouldn’t even want to get out of prison. He literally said the day he’s truely free is the day he dies.. this interview here was a big eye opener & this needs to be showed to the youth because we have this generation running wild stabbing & killing each other for what ? Postcodes or gangs. It’s very sad to see what this world has become. Thank you for this wonderful interview.
THE WORLDS HAS BEEN WAY MORE VIOLENT IN THE PAST WDYM????
Why does everyone seem to think the world is the worst it's ever been? The opposite is true.
@@StatsUnited Not in every aspect.
Please quit the rose tinted glasses perspective on the past. It is simply and demonstrably absolute bullshit. “What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.” If you don’t already know, I’ll leave it up to you to check out the source material.
@StatsUnited literally nobody is comparing, bad is bad even if its better than it was.
He actually looks really good for a man in his 70’s.
He’s done his time and it was hard time and I hope he has a fantastic life in his remaining years.
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I hope that the family of one of the hundreds he harms goes and gets justice.
@@hugolindum7728That’s not very nice
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Murdering people isn’t nice either. It is unjust that he’s living free while victims are under the ground rotting.
These people that have gone through similar experiences develop a natural poetry in them and with the way they talk
The way he ended this was so amazing and harshly tender
Well said!
Only the ones you see on channels like this one
Video been up 15 minutes and there’s already people commenting like they’ve watch the whole thing 🤣
Where are these secret utube rules that state u must watch videos in their entirety b4 commenting?
x2 speed = 14 minutes long or are you mathematically challenged?
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I'm on 1.45 and I read comments as well watching at the same time
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I personally watch videos at 2x speed to save time.
I remember reading a news article in 2012 online about a prisoner escape, i remembered his name after all these years John Massey, i looked more into it and it made me sad to see someone make a huge mistake when they were young and grow old in jail, it's crazy i just clicked on this video and i never recognised him at all he looks so different from the 2012 mugahot (which for some reason i remembered perfectly) and when they were saying his first and last name I couldn't believe it. Im glad he's out now, hope he lives the rest of his years happily.
I spent time with john in Pentonville and he was always a gentleman and a great training partner. I hope he enjoys the rest of his life as a free man
What kind of stuff did he do in the gym?
@@coffeejazzvibes2194 escaping! 😂😂😂
Are you a villain?
Not even watching but I just saw the thumbnail and I gotta say this man's beard is the best I've ever seen lol
This comment section really hammers home how little people understand about criminality in general. First of all, this interview is not about how he feels about committing murder, it’s direction is clearly towards his time in prison and his 4 escapes (considering the thumbnail of the video this should be pretty clear). Maybe he doesn’t feel remorseful, maybe he does - as we don’t have access to the entire interview we have no idea what his feelings about the killing are. I don’t think John felt very comfortable during parts of this interview, you can tell based on how his vocality and mannerisms change whilst speaking, and the constant nervous movements he makes with his hands. He goes from being almost boisterous to being very removed and quiet, which again should give you a pretty clear indication of how he feels whilst discussing this topic. To all the people complaining that these videos “humanise criminals and their crimes” have you ever considered that criminals are indeed humans and don’t magically cease being one when they commit a crime? That is the entire point of these videos, showing us that behind the hardened exterior there is a real human being there. Consider his upbringing, the fact his dad was in and out of prison, him being abused as a child and the people he was in borstal with - of course he still had a choice as to his path in life but coming from poverty and being given the chance to have some money for the first time in your life, it would hard to say no (especially considering how he probably felt towards the establishment at that point in his life). If you haven’t lived that life, you can’t honestly say that you have any idea what it was like. Of course he deserves to go to prison for killing someone, that goes without saying. Prison however, isn’t rehabilitation. We don’t have enough space or money to just lock up “dangerous people” indefinitely until they die to “protect the public”. We have to find ways as a society to fix the broken cycles and situations responsible for creating criminals. You can’t sugar coat what he did, but the story of his actions and the consequences need to be told in order for people to actually learn something.
Very well said 👏
The bits he struggles with are the self pity & the 'woe is me' parts of the story
Very well said.
I strongly suspect that a lot of working class children with unrecognised neuro#developmental disorders, delays and learning difficulties were horribly mistreated by the educational system and pushed into criminality.
I can honestly say there are a lot of people who had it just as rough who don't steal and kill.
The man he Killed that night, ws a man called Charlie. My Dad was supposed to be working on the door with him that night. Lets not glamourise this, John was sentenced for murder, it was John Massey and John Massey alone who was responsible for his sentence being prolonged as it was. It was self inflicted. I'm glad he is looking well after such a long period of reflection.
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Yes, this is a cold, cold man with a warm voice. I understand he's telling the story from his own perspective, but wow. I also think about him stealing cars. I worked so long and hard to buy my car. It's expensive to keep it, too. It would be a huge deal to me if it were stolen. Eh, to him it's just a lark. And to shoot the bouncer who was doing his job-- I don't like this guy.
@@chanwtv, cap has relatively recently become slang for lie. So just imagine they replied with the word lie. And this is very common in UA-cam when somebody shares a story like that. With no evidence to the contrary, just their trolling instincts, these people will say anything is a lie.
@@chanwtv Charlie had little class
This is indeed an eye opener for the young people. Get your life together and see what good you can do for yourselves. Fnd way while you can, invest and het money the legit way. Find an expert like that of oliver west and make a fortune for yourself .
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Seem a very humble man you served your time and a poor man lost his life there are no winners when this sort of things happen
The guy never had any remorse in this video. "No point crying over spilt milk" is the closest he gets. Minimises all over the place. Blames his nature, the bouncer.
He was too nice and flash so the bouncer attacked him- bullshit. You just got suckered by a career criminal with very little remorse crying about what he lost not that hes a murderer. Still moaning at the end that he's still serving a life sentence. He's a murdering prick with no remorse. .
Boohoo
Would have been interesting to know the change he saw on the outside. Stuff like mobiles etc, the whole world changed
3 mins in and even from a totally different culture I can just see it drippin off him. This guy reminds me of the dude that taught me just cause someone's old doesnt mean they're soft. That was an important lesson for me n showed me what that life leads u to being
Another winner Ladbible. Thanks for sharing John.
This man is something special indeed. What a story, truly. Appreciate listening to this and wishing him only the best from here. Tough mind, tough hands, tough life. Special regardless.
Tough hands? He shot someone over fifty cuffs. No different to these kids with zombie knives who can't hold their hands up. Doesn't detract from how mentally tough he is to do that kind of bird and nor crumble.
One of the best rock drummers in modern times, his work on Rumours was inspirational.
LOL
Hahahhaha dude 😂
I met this man fourteen years ago, and still remember the conversations we had. He made me laugh, and I found him to be personable, and quite philosophical about his situation. In actual fact, a nice bloke.
You were easily taken in by a thug, and a murderer.
such a good watch what a man when he spoke about his mums smile I felt that
the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling.
he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa...
he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family.
he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did.
it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
@@foff-666 thatsssssssssss lifeeeeeeee
@@foff-666That and being empathetic for his dying mother seeing her son on her deathbed aren't mutually exclusive
@@monkey7431_ who cares ? exclusive or not, the point is HIS feelings are irrelevant since they don't seem include any remorse or regret. Why are people like you so apologetic ? would you be so if it was your loved one who was brutally murdered ?
@@foff-666 Evidently you care, quite a lot. Im just pointing out your flawed logic.
Before he even said it, I knew he would say he was bored of "retirement " 😂
Absolutely, this guy is a testament to how we are all stuck where we are due to society. He is a product of his upbringing and life, he made ends meet the best he could. Laws are man made, and the rich can buy their way out.
Talks about his mum's smile but not the fact that his victim's mum never got to smile at her kid again. Sucks that he lost out on a life lived but sucks even more for the life that was taken. The lack of remorse in this clip doesn't make it seem like he'd have turned his life around and done good if released early
exactly
the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling.
he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa...
he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family.
he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did.
it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
@@fsociety.dat101but he does mention things, things about HIS loss (of time), things about HIS loss of life he will never get back.. what about his victim?, his victim didn't lose part-of-a-life he lost it all. that isn't just a little omission of expressed remorse that is the definition of NO remorse.
Tbf i never heard the interviewer ask any questions about remorse/thoughts of the victim. The victim also stabbed a guy in the eye, so he was far from angelic himself. Personally don't feel sorry for either of them, just their innocent families
Yeah your right
Your right
I saw a really fascinating documentary about this man on channel 4 will never forget it
What was it calked
@@redskyatnight123 I think it was called What Makes a Murderer and they investigated the neuroscience and developmental events that led each murderer to become a murderer. They looked at how specific parts of the brain didn't develop properly or were damaged due to things that happened to them / genetics etc... I thought it was so interesting any ways
@@sarahfellows3074sadly so many children that grow up in non suitable circumstances have this issue. It’s to do with living in fight or flight mode or constant vigilance. Adrenaline does damage to the developmental parts of the brain. Sadly I grew up in such circumstances and it takes a lot of time and a lot of soul searching to understand why your life isn’t where it should be or why things never work out.
This man grew up in care homes and no doubt experienced many things that he won’t ever talk about
A genuine salt of the earth tyre of man, Hope you live a peaceful life & god bless 🙏
More episodes. I’m hooked
Listening to this interview there was so little remorse towards the actual victim who was killed or the family who have lost a loved one.
It came across more like the guy who carried a loaded gun, willing to use it against anyone who did him wrong and then took someone elses life, was the one suffering because he had to answer for his crime.
Hard life, hard times. The old days were brutal, for everyone.
My thoughts exactly. He seems to have put himself as the victim because he had to go to prison. What about the poor guy he murdered?!
@@rachaelferguson7046watch a documentary that's based on the victim then instead of watching an interview about the perpetrator knowing what to expect lmao
@@Foxhound1Ninethat has f*ck all to do with taking a dig, leaving and shooting someone. Can't take a dig. The same people in the comments would be giving the youngsters of today ag in comments for carrying zombie knifes cos they can't hold their hands up. Just cos he wraps it up articulate words and wears a suit doesn't make it any different.
I like it how the editors add captions for the perfectly understandable interviewer, but completely ignore the guys with thick northern British accents
To deny any one saying good bye to their dying Mother is cruel beyond belief. Regardless of his actions before... that is a system that wont improve anything.
Didn't he murder someone? What goodbyes you reckon they got?
His victim didn't get a chance to say goodbye to his mother so why should he?
i respect the way you carry yourself and you got alot of wisdom
Breaks my soul for the lives lost. Including his
What I don’t understand is he went to prison in 1975 for a minimum of 20 years but his first escape wasn’t until 1994. Why on earth would you spend 19 years in prison to then decide to escape when he had the possibility of a release in another 12 months time 🤯
Shawshank-“That amount of time, it changes a man” in reference to the librarian attempting to kill another inmate after being told he was up for release after a 20+ year sentence.
Could you believe he wanted to stay?
Because his mom was dying and they wouldnt let him go and say his goodbyes
@@douglaspuglas6888That's a good enough reason in my book.
@@douglaspuglas6888that was in 2012 he’s talking about 1994
Silly sausage.
what a genuine man!!! Good luck John with everything going forward!!
'I just think it's unnatural to be locked up - and the main thing that drove me [in my escape efforts] was family'.
Funnily enough, I think it's unnatural to murder people, and my thoughts are with the family of the innocent man John killed. He mentioned that bloke once. Once in half an hour. His view is that prison is unnatural; mine is that unnatural people who do unnatural things surely belong in unnatural places. I want to know about the man in this situation, not his murderer. I want to know what he was like, what his family loved most about him, what his dreams and ambitions were in life, what he did for the people around him, what he gave to this life before John coldly took it away from him.
well you came to the wrong video if you wanted to know about him... These videos are about the exeriences in the title... Prison is unnatural. The conditions are. The diet is. There are many aspects of prison that is unnatural hence why it is a PUNISHMENT.
not every criminal is a bad person. A lot of them are really nice people, but people view them as their crime not as a person
exactly.
the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling.
he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa...
he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family.
he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did.
it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
@@Kaisivethis guy seems like a pretty bad person though.
It's not unnatural. We're the top species because of our propensity for violence. It's inside every one of us and has been since the dawn of man. Only a civilized society has made us hide that part of us. We all wear masks. I've seen the brutality and willingly participated in it in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are savages. You'd kill to protect your family wouldn't you?
I admired your silence towards your fellow participants to your detrem, I hope you have a peaceful life and a loving partner keeps hugging you forever.😊
Bouncers and policemen can be the biggest bullies.
If someone is holding a gun on you why would you choose to punch them ?
The guy is already upset that his friend inside was screaming .
He is 25 or so and been drinking .
There are just some people you don't challenge especially if they already are holding a gun on you.
He said he never meant to kill anyone when he tried to go back in after his friend .
I just know he was young and drinking and deep down regrets many of his life choices. But he can never go back and change them.
He can only look forward to try to be a better person with what life he has left .
Funny how u victim blame the poor bouncer and yet make every excuse for the murderer 🤦♂️ he said shooting the bouncer was like an instantaneous reaction yet went back in the club and shot the place up.
@@honeybadger9001 guess you never had a gun pointed at you ?
You don't try to punch someone who has a gun on you .
The people inside were basically torturing his friend inside .
That's the reason he went inside and shot the place up .
Many clubs and club owners are sleazy anyway .
Not saying the guys an angel but he was probably around 24 ?
I remember going into a bar being about that age and having guys in there 30's and 40's trying and thinking they were going to just take my girl from me !
Same with bar owners , that happened also.
Your naive
@@vainwretch I think you’re the naive one mate. You seem to be swallowing the narrative their mate was being tortured and like Rambo these heroes shot the place up as they had no other choice. That’s BS. Their mate wasn’t tortured he was glassed in a bar room brawl. Ppl receive horrific injuries in fights all the time.
They left to ‘get tooled up’ so it wasn’t like they shot in a sudden self defence. They could’ve got their mate out of the situation there and then. But they chose to go away and bring guns. So again not buying that he never intended to shoot anyone. If u bring a gun ur aware u may use it.
He was 24 so clearly able to understand the seriousness of the situation.
I’m saddened that he chose that particular path in life, but he’s shown little remorse or change of character,m so I have zero sympathy for his being locked up for so long. Absolutely best decision for the safety of the law abiding public. Any sooner he most likely would have returned to that life.
Also don’t know what kind of establishments you’re visiting where guys try to steal your women all the time? I’ve been to loads of clubs and bars and 99% of the time confrontation can easily be avoided. Walk away. It’s ego and male bravado that leads to trouble. Maybe you’re naive for returning to these bars so maybe try somewhere different 😂
@@honeybadger9001 no i don't think he had no choice .
He probably had older men thinking they could run over him and chump him out.
He shot up the bar to make a statement.
I have had guns pulled on me , i made sure i stood still .
I was young and my women were hot .
I am older than 60 , these were different bars .
He was a dumbass for shooting the guy.
The bouncer was a dumbass for punching him while holding a gun.
His friend was screaming from inside must have been very distinguished establishment.
Anytime you are out and about and close down a club stuff can happen in a split second .
I closed down many clubs back in the day.
I have seen bouncers looking for a excuse to abuse people for no reason other than power tripping .
Seen lots of fights over women , gambling bumping into someone.
I have been in many bar fights because of people thinking they could take me .
Arrested for it several times .
I have seen bouncers abuse people and i have fought with bouncers .
In his defense all his 'escapes' are for totally reasonable reasons lol
I wish nothing but happiness and great health 2u and your loved 1's John. Lots of Luv from Florida. U seem like a wonderful man. I hope u enjoy your day's until the very last 1. 🙏🇺🇲🗽🏴🙏
Great interview
Really enjoyed watching this and I hope you never stop making him, but it didn't seem like he felt much remorse for killing that man. Don't think he mentioned it even once after describing the event.
Exactly what I was going to mention. No remorse just self pity! Calls others cowards when he shoots an unarmed man.
@@CrustyBalls007he’s probably had a lot of time to regret what he’s done. He’s human, he doesn’t need to feel anything specific just because you believe he does. 43 years. Why would he spend the rest of the time he’s got left feeling sorry for what he’s done, I know I wouldn’t.
@@sueleishajade6377 its one thing to not spend his life feeling guilty about it, its another thing to be interviewed specifically about his life behind bars due to the senseless murder of an unarmed man and show no remorse for it.
He essentially discribed the killing as if it was just an every day event and he was the real victim for having to spend time in jail for it.
@@samuelwhitcombe9744maybe it just proves that prison doesn't work. He wasn't sorry before or after fam.
Very impressive man. Bold and self spoken!
At 25:30 when she asked what he spends his time doing now and he said he still does the odd job ahaha wondered where that was going.
20:13
Just knew he was gonna flip em off at some point in this vid
Understandably so😂
Never knew id hear cat stevens in this 🤣
Never knew he had three names
You see all these ex-criminals portrayed as nice, harmless people in these "minutes with" interviews, but I bet back in the day he was a right horrible bastard. I've not got an awful lot of sympathy for the years he lost in prison
Prison doesn’t deter people from crime and it doesn’t make them better citizens. It is inhumane.
@@bimfred no, but it does keep the general population safer with these people locked up
@@bimfredact like monsters get treated like monsters
@@willgoodall1529 the general population mostly gets dead from eating far too much. If the government really cared about saving lives they would ban certain foods and save hundreds of thousands of lives each year.
I mean accidents at home, essentially ladders, kill 10 times the number of people annually than die in homicides in the UK. And most of those homicides are inter-criminal disputes. He’s not a measurable danger to ‘the general public’ on any scale.
exactly.
the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling.
he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa...
he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family.
he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did.
it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
Fantastic story,
Really interesting interview, one book I'd genuinely consider buying.
Just popped in to say that beard is fire! Cheerio 😂
I could have listened to this guy for an hour..!
u could of gotten 43years if u were banged up with him
Excellent interview.
I learned a lot from your video. Thank u for sharing and good luck for the future
he took someone life. every joker in this comment gave some sort of support lmao. he took someone's life.
Can't anyone see it's a big deal, he took someone's life
Hello 👋🏽
how are you doing today?
Why do these people always fail to tell the full story, i.e. what his behaviour was like in prison, i.e. that he went home to get a shotgun and went back and shot the bouncer in cold blood.
The reason he was refused to go and see his dying mother was because he was a massive escape risk and horrendous behaviour, prison service doesn't reward bad behaviour!
People are always “economical with the facts “
Buy the book.
@@nigelnigel. yeah and put more money in his pocket. If he had any humanity in him he'd donate any profits to his victims.
Bro escaped a max security prison because he wasnt allowed to see his dying mother thats badass
could listen to him all day old school
Topman 👍 John thanks again for the book wishing you all the very best in life 🤝👍
I was in pentavile prison with him great guy i remember when he escaped from vill saw him at the gym and the next day he was gone very fit guy for his age
Thank you sir for sharing your story. Especially how you said you were still not free. How the govt. Can make up any excuse to do what they want. Very prescient for these times. Heartfelt thank you. Makes me think about my own life.
Buying that book for sure.
Know a few people who have met john and sag hes a diamond 💎 hope he lives over a hundred 💯 🙏 😉
You never know the life people have lived. You could walk past this old boy and not think twice. He has stories that would make your toes curl.
I like the old London accents, this man sounds the same as my dads older brothers who would have been in this man’s generation, great story too
Great video and interview!
Am I the only one who’s ears pricked up when the lady asked him “what are you doing these days” and he replied with “I’m still doing the odd job”….before he followed up with carpentry 😂
Seems like a decent guy. Just unfortunate circumstances happened.
Haha - was looking for this comment. Same.
Don’t blame the guy for breaking out to see his terminally ill mum, yeah he deserves the time for what he done but his mum didn’t deserve not to see her son one last time before she died
21:26 and look at ya mate. i’m sure your family are really proud of your outlook. the next life is coming my friend and you will have to answer for it
What a sad story of an individual failing the society and the society failing an individual
What an absolute legend
You’re exactly the kid hes talking about at the end
@@biilybob1 your weird
Good luck John I wish you well.
John has an indomitable spirit, incredibly human being, God speed john ❤
what a tender and beautiful man 🖤
you put anyone in a suit and you paint a certain picture. put politicians in shorts and a t-shirt and you can begin to see a real horror show. Appearance really is an illusion.
exactly
the pathetic outpouring of sympathy here in the comments in appalling.
he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
what about the bloke he murdered ? he never got to see HIS mum again, or vice versa...
he took a life! not half-a-life, or part-of-a-life : everything. he took EVERYTHING. from someone and their family.
he went there armed and ready to shoot, and he did.
it's not like it was an accident and he was 'caught up in an unfair trial' or some shit.
The last part that fella was saying about time he could never get back and old memory mind games with yourself exactly what I go through being a drug addict it's just like being in Prison
He spent all those years alive in prison, whilst the guy he killed never lived. He killed and shot at the police....he knew what he was doing.
The guy tried it with wrong man.. how many men before fell... It's the life
It was 70's... Bouncers was gangster too
"Being locked up isn't natural"
Lmao it probably felt pretty natural after 43 years.
Very moving.
Bet you wish you had not done it. Can you imagine how the guys family feels 43 years on
Well said
Unfortunate childhood, wrong crowd, bad influences.. these things turned what clearly is a nice man into a criminal. RIP to the man he killed, I hope his family is well. Also, I hope this guy has a good rest of his life as a free man, hopefully he gets a few decent years of freedom. He paid for his crimes with his life.
He possibly wasn't so nice if you were a security guard.
He paid far more than anyone should you mean. Far far more.
@@bimfred The family of his victim would strongly disagree with that statement, as do I.
He didn't do time for all the armed robberies.
@@danielkarmy4893 God you guys sound like you’re from the Victorian era.
prison is not an effective deterrent.
He literally learned to be this kind of person in cruel juvenile correctional facilities.
You have such an out-dated and disproven approach.
Not to mention that globally prisons are overflowing.
They are breading grounds for further criminality and are a form of cruel and unusual punishment.
Not to mention, getting a job as a bouncer in a rough east end pub in the 70s was not without its risks. The bouncer would have known that when he accepted the job.
The doorman was only doing his job & only had his hands to defend himself. Shooting him in cold blood was a despicable act of extreme cowardice. The only thing worth taking from this story is that justice was served in his long incarceration. If he’d at least had the courage to face the doorman like a man regardless of the outcome, two lives would’ve been saved
If only time machines were a thing...
I feel like people are very caught up on him not showing enough remorse, as if that delegitimises his experience.
First of all:
This is a story about how a society shapes a criminal, which is not a process that leaves much room for remorse. If you are that damaged in your childhood, maybe that's not an option for his brain. That's what happens when you're brought up on violence.
And Second of all:
The emphasis here is on the unfair punishment, relative to other people who done worse. The man was tortured quite frankly, for a long time. And the main part of his sentence was punishment for escape attempts not the murder, which I like him find ridiculous. Also it he was drunk and angry, it wasn't even premeditated. It was a mistake, and that's what a mistake looks like if you've been brought up like he has. Also don't think 43 years of prison strengthens the remorse muscle.
Third of all:
The people here who think justice wasn't served, are misguided in my opinion, because with your logic the death penalty is the only way to do that. And if we did like you seem to suggest, it would just be the American justice system which isn't a great example (again in my opinion). Actually I don't think he would even have gotten death in America.
You call for revenge, but I would call for rehabilitation. That is the way that in unfortunate circumstances causes the least suffering in total.
I'm danish, I think our system is somewhat fair, read about it, maybe you would be inspired to forgive instead.
This man's parents massively failed him. I also don't see him wanting to take any real responsibility for the fact that he took a person's life! Of course prison is hard, but he killed a man!
More heart and authenticity in this man than in most people I know who've been working at dead-end jobs for 30 or 40 years. Play on, player!
and? rather work for 3£ an hour than go to prison for murder you dinlo
Keep working that £3 job, toe2toe... 😂
A much longer sentence for the family of the mans life you took. Surprised no questions on that, and the end music like he’s some sort of sad story to tell. Should have kept your head down.
Ur not a very emotional intelligent person i see
@@45pints87 how so ?
25:19 I swear on my life the moment i started spilling milk into the sink this man said this I can’t even believe the line up. Wtf the moment I started spilling the milk
Meeting his mum, that goes deep.
Every old timer I spoke to in jail said that the sentence doesn’t start u till your released.
Reading the comments here is quite surprising. Let's not forget why he was locked up in the first place. He murdered someone, that persons family and friends will have to live with his absence for their whole lives. He said what happened, but he didn't show any remorse for his actions or apologise to the family of the person he shot.
A 20 year sentence for murder is far to lenient in my opinion. Granted the prison system is flawed and I believe visits to see very ill family members should be allowed. But he took someone else's life, that cannot be undone. So he eventually served 43 years, I think that's fair.
articulate man. lifes journey is strange
British penal system needs a massive reform,respect John you seem a very intelligent man
i know, it’s not tough enough, prisoners have it too easy
Imagine the world would be alien when you come out compared to when you went in.
43 years can't fathom that
Doesn’t seem very remorseful, in fact at times he almost seems proud of his life.
exactly. he has no remorse and appears to have no regrets. gross really. he complains: "what you've lost. what you've sacrificed. what you're never ever gonna get back" he says -- just like the bloke he murdered ain't it. just like that.
What a legend
this man does not look 75 for everything he has been through
british prisons are soft
Wow this is the best ever felt that…. The man’s eyes 👀 the way he spoke 😮…. Bless you sir … you have educated me…. Big love ❤️
Me too
Hello 👋🏽
how are you doing today?
Bouncers and policemen can be the biggest bullies.
If someone is holding gun on you why would you choose to punch them?
The guy is already upset that his friend inside was screaming.
43 years taken out of the best part of a life, what a waste, not suggesting he didn't deserve it, it was what it was.
What saddens me is the US justice system, watched a few doc's on children with full life terms, not all for murder, one lad was 15 when he committed his crime, nobody was physically injured, but he received a life sentence without parole, full life term, a teen who committed a crime at 15
The program was regarding the change in sentencing guidelines for children receiving life without the possibility of parole, so they were given hearings and sentence reductions, this lad's sentence was reduced to 55 years, 55 years, he'd be better off staying in.
Nice lighting