My New Bass Drum Trigger!
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2019
- In this video I show you my new bass drum trigger, the On Trigger Gen 3. Enjoy!
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In this video I show you my new bass drum trigger, the On Trigger Gen 3.
After having used the TrigMic Laser Trigger for over two years now
(Review: • Innovative LASER Bass ... ),
I decided to switch to a new bass drum trigger. It came down to a decision
between On Trigger and Foot Blaster. In this video you`ll see how I decided
and why.
Enjoy!
X "Drum Covers" Playlist: • Drum Covers
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X My Double Bass Pedal settings: • My Double Bass Pedal S...
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I'm totally convinced. I bought a set of these a few months ago based on this review alone and I can say after testing them all this time, that they are absolutely amazing. VERY well made, simple to install (though it does take a few minutes) and adjust and they track perfectly. I removed the old triggers just two hours after setting these up. There was no doubt in my mind about how good these were going to be moving forward.
That feeling, that flow! Nice to see that!
I had the same problem with trigmic (sunlight and stroboscopic lights)
I have been using them every single day since months with a Mimic and they work flawlessly.
I also use the laserpick and we have to tell the lightguy of the venue to not put bright lights on the drums. Last gig the strobe light made the laserpic dropout everytime the strobe was activated.. It is such a shame becase the laserpic system with integrated module and just 1 xlr out is brilliant.
It sounds great! Nice video dude!
i bought these same one about a month ago and they are awsome
Amazing!
Very useful, thanks.
Perfect English Wanja!
great dude
Seem to be a great product. Have fun 😁
Thanks!
Wanja! My T-Shirt is holding up well. :-) I see you are implementing your new technique. Thanks for telling us about triggers and which may be best. You are an awesome drummer and person. Didn't you just record a CD? How do I buy that? (In US).
Just got these, looks great, can we get a sign of the trident cover? Satyricon?
Hey Wanja, what do you use for samples or sample library? This is something i'd really like to know about as I love messing around with (in DAW) samples, etc.
I hope someday that the companies invent some trigger that don't need modules for triggering, just connect via smartphone, put your presets on it and connect to audio outline, would be a dream!!!
@@SomeRandomPerson163 oh, the technology!!!
Hello Wanja! I really enjoyed all your videos and your playing as well! Really your channel is very informative and i always check your videos. I just ordered the on triggers with a Tm-2 module after watching your videos. I would like to ask you a question. Do you have any problems on slow single and double bass patters if your rest the beaters on the drum like i do? Are they so sensitive like acoustic triggers which double trigger from the skin vibrations?
I don't rest my beaters against the kickdrum for exactly this reason :D
But I think you can setup the tm-2 in a way that you can get away with it. You can also try experimenting with the point at which the triggers are hit by the pedal.
What type of headphones or in ears do you use to hear the triggers? Are you listening to the whole kit through the interface or just the feet?
Loving these myself. You didn't mention the TM2 settings. I know it can change person to person. Was wondering what your findings were. My sensitivity setting went WAY down.
I use the Roland SPD-SX and have been enjoying them straight of the box with that module. Did you end up on any particular settings for the TM2? I'll likely drop the sensitivity some day.
I made a video about my setup and also module settings for these: ua-cam.com/video/JIKRT-EsiC4/v-deo.html&t=
Wanja, thank you for this video! 👍
Could you answer for two questions I try to word, please? ;)
How do you use your triggers during live shows: the signal from the only triggers or mix signals between sound from triggers and acoustic sound of the kick from the microphone?
And about the backlash on the shaft of your Demon Drive: has it begun to appear or is it still backlash-free?
(Thank you, google translator!)
Bass drum sound depends on what band I play with and also on time for soundcheck etc. For super brutal stuff, trigger only, for everything else I like a mixed sound but only if there is enough time for soundcheck and if the sound guy is good.
Drive shaft still free of any lag.
U know what naturally bleached guy A real drummer who can play each n every genre existing blues classic to death nd extreme metal 😊
Gotta love the Trig Mig Laser Pig. 🐽
I bought them played few shows and I must say after many tweaking them with footboard and with settings on my roland tm 2 they still double trigger what is not the problem with footblaters according to drummers using them, so I think unfortenatly I will change them
I often play gigs where there are 3 bands playing and drummers share the same drums. This trigger is mounted on the pedal which is great, but there must be some minor adjustment when you change to a different kick drum, where maybe the angle is different or something like that. How easy is to adapt, do you need a lot of time for adjustment? Because between bands there is maybe 15 to 20 min time for setup..
When the beater is pressed against the drumhead, the pedal should slightly press down the trigger. If this is not the case I adjust the trigger by bending the arm it is mounted on up or down. Usually takes only a couple of seconds to check and readjust. Module settings stay the same.
Hi Wanja, habe die Trigger auch getestet. Habe aber gelegentlich Double Hits. Was stellst du beim TM-2 ein (vorallem welchen Pad-type etc.)?
Ich sehe du hast die Aufschlagsfläche des Triggers nur etwa zur Hälfte mit dem Pedal bedeckt. Ist dies das Optimum? Bei mir werden die weissen Triggerflächen komplett von der Aussenseite des Demon Drives angeschlagen (wobei das Pedal eine leichte Kante hat). Eventuell löst das verschieben des Trigger mein Problem? Wie stark wird der Schaumstoff bei dir Reingedrückt bei einem Hit? Stellst du die Triggerhöhe auf ganz knappe Berührung ein oder wird das Teil ordentlich reingedrückt? Gruss
Die settings findest du irgendwo in diesem Video hier: ua-cam.com/video/Kdjt90Y7fEQ/v-deo.html Geändert habe ich nur, dass der Threshold deutlich niedriger ist, dafür ist retrigger cancel etwas höher. Der Trigger wird ca dann berührt, wenn der Beater auch das Fell trifft, es wird also nichts groß eingedrückt oder so. Dass der Trigger nur halb vom Pedal getroffen wird, liegt nur daran, wie ich ihn am Pedal angeschraubt habe, ist also keine Absicht und ich glaube auch nicht, dass das einen Unterschied machen würde,
Have they worked well after time of use? Looking to buy these soon!
Yes, they held up very well. Right now I can't use them because my drum module is broken but I will go back to them as soon as possible ;)
Yo, Nechtan.... I would love to see you do a cover for Gojira, The art of Dying. I know it would be nothing to you, however, I would still love to see it.
You made the right choice between OT and FB. I own them both and I can confidently say that the OT are better than FB.
Haha. Depends actually.
The wires on the On-Trigger look very vulnerable and prone to be damaged
See? Not for everyone.
@@sega.milkis Even if they do break can you change out the actually sensor, which you can't on FB, so either you get a spare sensor for like 30€ or else buy a new pairs of FB, which sucks haha.. Quality overall with the gen 3 OT are amazing! But if you mean the actuall input is it probably the same quality on the jack version, but OT offers a XLR input cables and those are sturdy from my own experience.
@@KholmDrums holy shit, I literally spent yesterday watching your videos, Adam!!! You are one tight terminator, man! Your power, technique, setup, arrangements, expressive attitude is so fooking amazing! U crazy)))
As for the triggers... I own footblasters for half of year already and until now I've no problems so far... But if anything happens, I would consider the On-Triggers, cause Thomann is convenient. Haha, cheers 🤘🤘🤘
So, you are now using On Triggers and as a drum module Roland TM-2. Was there any issue with conecting these two things thogether?
No, seems to work perfectly fine!
Thanks a lot I have Roland TM-2 and I want to buy On Triggers and it was useful information.
any thoughts on footblaster VS on-trigger?
So far I prefer Ontriggers, because they are available on different platforms (thomann e.g.), cheaper and come with spare sensor pads. From what I have read, customer support may be a bit better as well.
Where could I get one of those t-shirts? 🙂
Hi, you can get it here: wanjanechtangroeger.myspreadshop.de/300+bpm+blast+beat-A5d82d10bb264a16d3e3bbe4c?productType=6&sellable=lzdzrGAR4wHQ0AAMNV5e-6-7&appearance=2
Hey Wanja, would you a drumcover of Atonement by Thy Art is Murder? I don't know if you like them but I ask you because I think you can kill it. Thank you anyway for your videos. Keep it up!
My advice... use both triggers. Or rather, have both set up and ready to use. If one system fails, you have an immediate back up. (Versus keeping the old ones sitting in a box back home.)
Yes, I will definetely do that!
@@wanjanechtangroeger I'm looking at these triggers now thanks to your suggestion. Very impressed, especially with the pricing.
You don’t need a module for these though right??! I emailed the guy when I bought them and he said I could plug them straight into the interface
Ja fuck ey...die Dinger hab ich mir grad bei thomann angeguckt. Und beater mit integrierten triggern. Schätze, dass es dann wohl diese werden😅
Hello there. I got the same triggers but I get double trigger caused from the drive shaft vibrations. Do you had similar issues? I will appreciate any help. Thanks
Drive shaft vibrations? Never had issues with something like that, but I also don't really understand :D
Anyway - to avoid double triggers make sure the trigger is not too close to the pedals and to have the threshold setting on your module high enough.
@@wanjanechtangroeger thanks very much
Seit wann und warum spielst du die demondrives als shortboard?
Seit einer Weile, halbes Jahr oder so vielleicht. Wollte es einfach mal ausprobieren - macht keinen großen Unterschied, aber ich bilde mir ein, ein klein wenig mehr Power zu haben ;)
Kranke Fuß-doublestrokes
Kommt schon sehr nah an Donati und Lang ran!
Ich würd mir die China holen, welche in dem Video ist, allerdings bin ich mir unsicher wie sehr dieses Video den Klang verfälscht
I own these triggers and my problem is that I bury the beaters when not playing the second bass pedal. And when I hit with the main pedal, I get double triggering. Do you guys encounter the same issue? I see Wanjia doesn’t bury the beaters.
Hmmm, maybe because the buried beater bounces during the hits of your main pedal / beater.
I would rise the trigger settings thres at least for the slave pedal.
I chose the cheap version of these triggers. I grabbed two piezo guitar pickups for $9 (piezo on a mono socket), two metal brackets and a bit of foam packaging material + double sided and foam tape. Basically because I wanted to trigger the two bass drum notes from my sexy, sweet SD3 sound libs! Until now I used the ATV 13" kick pad, which is still there to kick into.
These system works surprisingly well. Really, its way more sensitive than the ATV pad, and so I got more re- and double triggers because of the bury beaters thing :-).
I put a picture in my Community section.
After all this months, did you have any issue with this triggers? I'm using the foot blaster, but I already broke one due to poor quality of the product and I'm searching for something better. Cheers.
So far no problems at all! Also the OnTrigger comes with a spare sensor pad - but didn't need it yet.
@@wanjanechtangroeger Thanks for your reply. Keep on blasting!
do they work with a roland td 17?
If it has two jack inputs, it should work!
Shut up thumbdowners! This Guy is interesting and sympathic. So let him do his job! M.F.
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Play Soil the Stillborn by Infant Annihilator 😏😏😏 you can do it!!! Maybe
Mach bitte mal ein Video auf Deutsch 😂
Dieses Video ist zwar nicht komplett auf Deutsch aber immerhin teilweise 😉 ua-cam.com/video/1hTziHENq7E/v-deo.html
Ok when anyone asks you for make them listen some cool music stuff u play blast beats lol....At least use Bass drum as a Bass drum triggered bass drum takes out all of the bass and sound like metronome click kinda.....
Listen to some of Lamb of God records ull get to know how a bass drum sound actually.......