Brethren not to brag, but have them all. Back in the mid 2000s I went on a scavenger hunt to build a complete P2K set. Doing so put me in a bit of gear debt, but was worth it. As I likely wouldn’t be able to do it in ‘23. It truly is amazing the current prices these pieces go for now. But the versatility afforded by having them makes for endless creativity. My E-MU collection has affectionately been named the “EMUSEUM”. These days, I find myself exploring the depths of the Morpheus and Ultra Proteus. From memory, the hardest rom to get was the “Holy Grail”, as there are lots of fakes out there. For those looking to embark on this journey. Happy Hunting ✌🏾👍🏾✊🏾
The cheapest way to get into that E-mu hardware sound is to buy a sampler in the ESI range, you can still pick them up really cheaply. I retrofitted my old ESI 32 that I bought back in the day with a Gotek drive, and it came free with a USB pen crammed full of factory disks/ROM stuff. It's best to pick up a unit with maxxed out RAM and the Turbo Kit, as the board has a bunch of additional I/Os, FX, and 17 filters from their Morpheus Z-plane synthesizer.
I've almost bought SO many ESI-32 or E6400s ive seen on craigslist. They're not as cheap as I was hoping (but $150 can get you a ESI32) especially for the max-ed out or upper models but when I think about getting a sampling solution to last for a while (I can't stand using the Logic Pro sampler mostly because with all the version switching and OS upgrades its not guaranteed that sample programs will be playable and unchanged over the years), though, I do want the EMU sampler because in my opinion they have the best method for pitch-shifting across the keyboard; I wonder if that's still true with all the improvements over time w time-streching and the like? My Roland MC-909 uses their Variphrase technology and its better than others but not as good as the EMU sounded when I had the Proteus /1
I bought an emu e5000 sampler that had an 80g hard drive fitted with all the ROM presets from all the EMU range from the start (early emulator synths/samplers) up to the various sound modules and well as a shedload of other Roland/Akai/Yamaha other synth ROM sets and sounds. The E5000 has thousands of banks of sounds. I can guarantee you’d never get bored of sounds to use!
Those are powerful machines the presets you will get tired of but you can combine your sounds and making new ones along with adding effects to them so those machines get really deep if you spend time with them. The filters are second to none
I lucked out when I bought my PX-7 that was also stocked with MP-7, XL-7 and the Vintage Keys ROMS. My next move is to get an E-mu sampler and find the even more rare blank ROMs.
I used to have a E-MU MP-7 back in 2008. A year later, I added the X-Rom XL-7 rom to it, so it had both Pure Phatt and X-Rom chips in it. So, by 2010, I had a ball with it as a sound source while sequencing it with the MPC1000 I had at the time. I sold it in March 2011 to help fund upgrading my TR808 and buying a vintage analog synth that I got a good deal on, then later sold and made a huge profit on. I still miss that bad boy (MP-7). However, I still have my E4XT Ultra rack sampler with an external SCSI hard drive full of soundbanks and presets taken from these old Proteus 2000 series E-MU roms, but not the presets from the MP-7 and XL-7 Command Stations though. I miss those presets.
I own both the Proteus 2000 and the Mo Phatt module that are nearly maxed out with rare ROMs. What I did is just buy the hardware sound modules an just pull the ROM cards out them and move over to my Proteus 2000 and then keep the extra Proteus module for parts. Infact that's what I did with my Mo Phatt that's sitting on my shelf as a parts machine for spare parts for my Proteus 2000 since the hardware is identically the same.
If u want these sounds u can buy the Kontakt version online for less than 30dollars and have the full library. I have one but I miss having the actual drum machine.
Every time I buy one of these products, they come with a surprise in them like Beat Garden or XL ROM. I also have composer and MP7 ROMs. My 2000 slots are full. They are getting expensive.
Seems like new modules could be homebrewed with modern flash chips instead of ROMs, so you could load them with your own sounds. I can't imagine there's any encryption or fancy copy protection on the original modules, so the contents could be copied. If whatever's left of E-MU cared, they could build up and release new modules.
What new moduels are you reffering? E-MU stopped making hardware in 2002. I own the Proteus 2000 and the Mo Phatt but I kept the Mo Phatt for parts for the Proteus 2000 as I pulled the Pure Phatt card and moved over to my Proteus. I have the Extreme Lead X1 card in there as well.
@@eman0828 I'm thinking total new hobbiest-built modules that fit into old E-MU gear, like the retrocomputer people make new NES cartridges, soundcards, or SIMMs for their old computers and consoles. The modules would be made from all new parts but you could copy the data from the old modules and get the same sounds. maybe even some bank switching so you could have one module that could have all the old module contents in it.
yup I still have my proteus 2500 and Xl-1 and I have the expansion ram cards for turbophatt and few others laying around somewhere...thinking about putting a few on reverb cuz some just sitting around not being used😆
you remember that huge snare drum from whodini's tune "funky beat"? well i found out through a forum that was on a certain preset card for a drum machine (ive got it written down somewhere i dont have it to hand) but there is no way to find that online at all! its a rock drum kit but man i remember that whodini record blew my mind when it came out. ill find it one day haha! great video!
Noble quest to search for that snare ..Now you got to remember there were only a hand full of drum machines at this time of 1986..Larry Smith produced "Funky Beat" and he used the Linn Drum and the TR 808 alot to a point he even was the first to start layering..He layered a 808 and Linn Drum snare together on "Friends"..In his early 1980s stuff he also used the DMX drum machine..His synths were the Prophet 5, MiniMoog..Sometimes a Fairlight and a Jazz Fender Bass..There were only a hand full of drum machines at that time so you can narrow it down..And the TR 707 came out in 1985..And he made the album with the "Funky Beat" in 1986 and he also used the 707 alot in his production..So I think your real close to getting your answer..All the preset sounds of these drum machines are available to be heard on line so..You'll get your answer...It's like a Hardy Boys mystery Lol!
Yeah people go more nuts for these EMU ROMs than anything else. The Roland SRX cards are very expensive too, but there seems to be consistently diehard EMU fans who gotta have them all as you say - but also as you say they're just not enough out there bevause there wasn't a hgue install base of them originally. When EMU/Creative got shut down, they sold off the rights to sell the sound library to another company - I bought the Planet Phatt soundset in Soundfont format and its terrible, its nothing like the real thing. I've got the free Proteus VX which is the Proteus 2000 "Composer" soundset - I had the PK-6 back in the day and did not like it. I liked the Protean drum sounds one, in the PX-7, that I regret selling
They did not sell the rights. Infact Creative Labs still owns the E-MU trademarks they are still using the band name for head phones. Digital Sound Factory is paying Creative Labs a license fee to license the sounds of the original wave forms of the Proteus moduels. But at the same time, nothing comes close to the hardware since the raw samples Sounds nothing like the hardware units because of the converters used on those old units hat gives it a more dirtier gritty warmth sound to then like lo-fi.
Dave Rossum tried to buy back his band from Creative Labs but they said nope as they are still using it. Infact E-MU stands for "Electro-Music" hense the name Rossum Electro-Music that Dave came up with for his new company.
That is def one thing I will say about the Emulator X3 VST is I have almost every Proteus 2000 series ROM that I like in exb format,and it's just dead on soundwise. I never liked the sf2 either,like the drum kits were ok,but other patches def didn't behave the same. The DSF Kontakt libraries are kinda wonky too.
@@showbread9366 I can tell you never owned one. I have most of the ROM cards as my Proteus 2000 is nearly maxed out. Software sounds drastically different from hardware.
I've had my Proteus 2000 and Mo Phatt for over 15yrs (mo phatt card's been in the proteus for about 10 of those yrs) and there was a time when I wanted everything Emu had to offer but Im good. I copped some wav files and Kontakt instrument versions of most of the others so if Im dropping $ on hardware it ain't Emu these days
I've got loads of the actual hardware ones and you can now donwload them and if you have an emu sampler you can put them on a SD card and have all of them to use inside the Ultra.
not quite, via the e4 machines only the sample data (not the original patches from RAM) can be accessed. the ultra does not have the same banks of filters as the p2k romplers.s
I heard that iconic snare drum that's on all 90s R&B records like TLC No Scrubs or Destiny Child Bill's, Bill's, Bill's, Dru Hill etc came from an E-MU e4 library. I happen to found snare some one where online. Timbaland used those same drum samples to back in the 90s.
I have a few of them including the planet earth which imo is the dopest one. That mf is outrageously expensive & very hard to find these days. Also have an extra mo phatt rom I just haven’t gotten around to selling.
E-Mu had good sounds because they had all the libraries from the Emulator 3 that legit musicians worked on. But then Roland had the guys who made the Zero-G sample CDs making sounds for them. There’s a couple people making copies of E-Mu ROMs now. The samplers can burn them. The hard part is getting the blank SIMMs. But it looks like you can just about get anything for $200. It’s kinda sad how Reverb/eBay is just full of E-Mu modules with missing ROMs. A lot of UK composers got a Proteus 2000 then just got ROMs for it because that was the only 128-voice model they could get with all the outputs because they didn’t sell Turbo upgrades overseas. It’s a strange situation with those 64-voice modules. You got the Planet Earth which is hard to find but I think that’s just because they didn’t sell many, because it’s not much different from the Proteus/3, and the Proteus/3 has more outputs.
Brethren not to brag, but have them all. Back in the mid 2000s I went on a scavenger hunt to build a complete P2K set. Doing so put me in a bit of gear debt, but was worth it. As I likely wouldn’t be able to do it in ‘23. It truly is amazing the current prices these pieces go for now. But the versatility afforded by having them makes for endless creativity. My E-MU collection has affectionately been named the “EMUSEUM”. These days, I find myself exploring the depths of the Morpheus and Ultra Proteus. From memory, the hardest rom to get was the “Holy Grail”, as there are lots of fakes out there. For those looking to embark on this journey. Happy Hunting ✌🏾👍🏾✊🏾
The cheapest way to get into that E-mu hardware sound is to buy a sampler in the ESI range, you can still pick them up really cheaply. I retrofitted my old ESI 32 that I bought back in the day with a Gotek drive, and it came free with a USB pen crammed full of factory disks/ROM stuff. It's best to pick up a unit with maxxed out RAM and the Turbo Kit, as the board has a bunch of additional I/Os, FX, and 17 filters from their Morpheus Z-plane synthesizer.
Oh ok Nice!..Gonna definitely check them out?
You probably wont@@DyReckProductions
I've almost bought SO many ESI-32 or E6400s ive seen on craigslist. They're not as cheap as I was hoping (but $150 can get you a ESI32) especially for the max-ed out or upper models but when I think about getting a sampling solution to last for a while (I can't stand using the Logic Pro sampler mostly because with all the version switching and OS upgrades its not guaranteed that sample programs will be playable and unchanged over the years), though, I do want the EMU sampler because in my opinion they have the best method for pitch-shifting across the keyboard; I wonder if that's still true with all the improvements over time w time-streching and the like? My Roland MC-909 uses their Variphrase technology and its better than others but not as good as the EMU sounded when I had the Proteus /1
I bought an emu e5000 sampler that had an 80g hard drive fitted with all the ROM presets from all the EMU range from
the start (early emulator synths/samplers) up to the various sound modules and well as a shedload of other Roland/Akai/Yamaha other synth ROM sets and sounds. The E5000 has thousands of banks of sounds.
I can guarantee you’d never get bored of sounds to use!
Those are powerful machines the presets you will get tired of but you can combine your sounds and making new ones along with adding effects to them so those machines get really deep if you spend time with them. The filters are second to none
I lucked out when I bought my PX-7 that was also stocked with MP-7, XL-7 and the Vintage Keys ROMS. My next move is to get an E-mu sampler and find the even more rare blank ROMs.
Nice!!
I used to have a E-MU MP-7 back in 2008. A year later, I added the X-Rom XL-7 rom to it, so it had both Pure Phatt and X-Rom chips in it. So, by 2010, I had a ball with it as a sound source while sequencing it with the MPC1000 I had at the time. I sold it in March 2011 to help fund upgrading my TR808 and buying a vintage analog synth that I got a good deal on, then later sold and made a huge profit on. I still miss that bad boy (MP-7).
However, I still have my E4XT Ultra rack sampler with an external SCSI hard drive full of soundbanks and presets taken from these old Proteus 2000 series E-MU roms, but not the presets from the MP-7 and XL-7 Command Stations though. I miss those presets.
You brought me to Planet Phatt and Mo, & I’ve never looked back!
Lmao I feel you!
I own both the Proteus 2000 and the Mo Phatt module that are nearly maxed out with rare ROMs. What I did is just buy the hardware sound modules an just pull the ROM cards out them and move over to my Proteus 2000 and then keep the extra Proteus module for parts. Infact that's what I did with my Mo Phatt that's sitting on my shelf as a parts machine for spare parts for my Proteus 2000 since the hardware is identically the same.
Nice.
If u want these sounds u can buy the Kontakt version online for less than 30dollars and have the full library. I have one but I miss having the actual drum machine.
You are overlooked. Great content.
Thanks fam.
I'm glad I expanded my MP-7 command station 20 years ago. I got up on the world percussion rom, XL-7 rom, and a memory expander ROM.
Nice.
Every time I buy one of these products, they come with a surprise in them like Beat Garden or XL ROM. I also have composer and MP7 ROMs. My 2000 slots are full. They are getting expensive.
So this is why they call certain sampler based devices Romplers? That's a revelation right there.
Ahhh Roms Romplers!..No doubt..Putting the pieces together.
Seems like new modules could be homebrewed with modern flash chips instead of ROMs, so you could load them with your own sounds. I can't imagine there's any encryption or fancy copy protection on the original modules, so the contents could be copied. If whatever's left of E-MU cared, they could build up and release new modules.
What new moduels are you reffering? E-MU stopped making hardware in 2002. I own the Proteus 2000 and the Mo Phatt but I kept the Mo Phatt for parts for the Proteus 2000 as I pulled the Pure Phatt card and moved over to my Proteus. I have the Extreme Lead X1 card in there as well.
@@eman0828 I'm thinking total new hobbiest-built modules that fit into old E-MU gear, like the retrocomputer people make new NES cartridges, soundcards, or SIMMs for their old computers and consoles. The modules would be made from all new parts but you could copy the data from the old modules and get the same sounds. maybe even some bank switching so you could have one module that could have all the old module contents in it.
That would be nice.
Just rack mounted mine it looks sick
Sadly not just E-MU ROM's. Kurzweil, Ensoniq,Quasimidi,and a few other expansions are getting hard to find and pricey.
why is that sad?
@@theseaward4613 Because the owners of this gear will have a hard time obtaining upgrades
I feel you.
yup I still have my proteus 2500 and Xl-1 and I have the expansion ram cards for turbophatt and few others laying around somewhere...thinking about putting a few on reverb cuz some just sitting around not being used😆
Nice.
you remember that huge snare drum from whodini's tune "funky beat"? well i found out through a forum that was on a certain preset card for a drum machine (ive got it written down somewhere i dont have it to hand) but there is no way to find that online at all! its a rock drum kit but man i remember that whodini record blew my mind when it came out. ill find it one day haha! great video!
Noble quest to search for that snare ..Now you got to remember there were only a hand full of drum machines at this time of 1986..Larry Smith produced "Funky Beat" and he used the Linn Drum and the TR 808 alot to a point he even was the first to start layering..He layered a 808 and Linn Drum snare together on "Friends"..In his early 1980s stuff he also used the DMX drum machine..His synths were the Prophet 5, MiniMoog..Sometimes a Fairlight and a Jazz Fender Bass..There were only a hand full of drum machines at that time so you can narrow it down..And the TR 707 came out in 1985..And he made the album with the "Funky Beat" in 1986 and he also used the 707 alot in his production..So I think your real close to getting your answer..All the preset sounds of these drum machines are available to be heard on line so..You'll get your answer...It's like a Hardy Boys mystery Lol!
You truly know your shit. I constantly find myself learning about old gear thru your channel. Keep it up, plz!
The Amazing Race with hardware now.
Lol Word!
The vintage keys pro rom is ridiculously expensive 🤦🏿♂️ I'm lovely my mo' phatt but i need that vintage keys rom to complete my rack module.
Yeah I was looking for that too..I got the Sounds of the ZR..Its pretty nice.
Buy the kontakt library then u could sample from it
Yeah people go more nuts for these EMU ROMs than anything else. The Roland SRX cards are very expensive too, but there seems to be consistently diehard EMU fans who gotta have them all as you say - but also as you say they're just not enough out there bevause there wasn't a hgue install base of them originally. When EMU/Creative got shut down, they sold off the rights to sell the sound library to another company - I bought the Planet Phatt soundset in Soundfont format and its terrible, its nothing like the real thing. I've got the free Proteus VX which is the Proteus 2000 "Composer" soundset - I had the PK-6 back in the day and did not like it. I liked the Protean drum sounds one, in the PX-7, that I regret selling
They did not sell the rights. Infact Creative Labs still owns the E-MU trademarks they are still using the band name for head phones. Digital Sound Factory is paying Creative Labs a license fee to license the sounds of the original wave forms of the Proteus moduels. But at the same time, nothing comes close to the hardware since the raw samples Sounds nothing like the hardware units because of the converters used on those old units hat gives it a more dirtier gritty warmth sound to then like lo-fi.
Dave Rossum tried to buy back his band from Creative Labs but they said nope as they are still using it. Infact E-MU stands for "Electro-Music" hense the name Rossum Electro-Music that Dave came up with for his new company.
That is def one thing I will say about the Emulator X3 VST is I have almost every Proteus 2000 series ROM that I like in exb format,and it's just dead on soundwise. I never liked the sf2 either,like the drum kits were ok,but other patches def didn't behave the same. The DSF Kontakt libraries are kinda wonky too.
@@eman0828lo-fi? I don’t think so.
@@showbread9366 I can tell you never owned one. I have most of the ROM cards as my Proteus 2000 is nearly maxed out. Software sounds drastically different from hardware.
secondary market synth scene is straight up insane these days...
Yup!
J Dilla had the keyboard version of the Mo Phatt
The Holy Grail Piano Rom is almost impossible to find.
I've had my Proteus 2000 and Mo Phatt for over 15yrs (mo phatt card's been in the proteus for about 10 of those yrs) and there was a time when I wanted everything Emu had to offer but Im good. I copped some wav files and Kontakt instrument versions of most of the others so if Im dropping $ on hardware it ain't Emu these days
Oh ok I feel you.
I just bought a Proteus 2000. Seems like a lot of people are digging through rack synths right now.
Also, did you know you can use the old Emu samplers and blank ROM cards to write your own ROMs for your Command Station or Proteus style rompler.
I've got loads of the actual hardware ones and you can now donwload them and if you have an emu sampler you can put them on a SD card and have all of them to use inside the Ultra.
not quite, via the e4 machines only the sample data (not the original patches from RAM) can be accessed. the ultra does not have the same banks of filters as the p2k romplers.s
@@asladek This is true. But all the raw audio are there to mess about with.
Yeah I was thinking of getting the 4KUltra..But changed my mind.
@@DyReckProductions They go for silly money now. The EX4T Ultras.
I heard that iconic snare drum that's on all 90s R&B records like TLC No Scrubs or Destiny Child Bill's, Bill's, Bill's, Dru Hill etc came from an E-MU e4 library. I happen to found snare some one where online. Timbaland used those same drum samples to back in the 90s.
I have a few of them including the planet earth which imo is the dopest one. That mf is outrageously expensive & very hard to find these days. Also have an extra mo phatt rom I just haven’t gotten around to selling.
Yeah you hardly see the planet earth around.
E-Mu had good sounds because they had all the libraries from the Emulator 3 that legit musicians worked on. But then Roland had the guys who made the Zero-G sample CDs making sounds for them. There’s a couple people making copies of E-Mu ROMs now. The samplers can burn them. The hard part is getting the blank SIMMs. But it looks like you can just about get anything for $200. It’s kinda sad how Reverb/eBay is just full of E-Mu modules with missing ROMs. A lot of UK composers got a Proteus 2000 then just got ROMs for it because that was the only 128-voice model they could get with all the outputs because they didn’t sell Turbo upgrades overseas. It’s a strange situation with those 64-voice modules. You got the Planet Earth which is hard to find but I think that’s just because they didn’t sell many, because it’s not much different from the Proteus/3, and the Proteus/3 has more outputs.
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