This man threw 200+ strikes in 2 rounds with no stamina loss? put into perspective that Tony Ferguson and Justin Gaethje went 5 rounds at UFC 249, Gaethje threw 197 strikes, IN 5 ROUNDS! Unbelievable..
EA needs to fix the "block" bar/health. There is no such thing as a damn "block" health in real life. If you're going to actually incorporate a proper blocking system, then bring back arm health. They also need to make arm health bars for both arms for obvious reasons. Also, they need to implement true body health bars for your right, center, and left sides of the body. You'd think in the 4th installment they would understand the most basic concepts of human anatomy in combat sports. Watching players cheese and break block bars is some of the corniest and fake shit I've seen in a mixed martial arts game.
trust me bro I know its fucked up seeing a mega company fail to even attempt to understand the most fundemental aspects of a sport seeing as EA fucked up Madden worse and worse every year, it gets unplayable earlier in the year every game
Man idc who’s says your crying bro keep speaking out until they fix this broken ass pressure system I’ve lost count of how many bums I’ve lost to because they can spam endless combos miss 80% of there shots but somehow still have more stamina then me because I’m actually using footwork and head movement instead of button smashing and walking forward like a zombie shit is broken and takes away from the fun of us actual combat sports fans who know what a real fight should look like!
@@left2433 Bro what!!! Shitters are always the most toxic I really think it’s because deep down they are insecure because they know they have no skill so when they get a lucky win they feel the need to rub it in
It’s aggravating af. Especially when i’m having a great fight with someone who’s clearly skilled then they revert to the broken aspects of the game to secure the w
@@Mythowars Counter striking is the best, you can see how pissed they get when they get hit with a flurry.... They go from 7hit combos to jab-straight-lead elbow, elbow-knee-knee reset
Absolutely nuts he threw 162 strikes in that first round and he only landed 47. He missed over a hundred strikes and a round and that's a top level player. Between this issue and the fact that someone can get rocked 20 times in a fight meaning that they made 20 mistakes that should have had them knocked out at least 18 of those times. thank you for doing this video I'm putting it out there some more people can get understanding of what you're talking about
Everything just needs to cost more stamina. Ripping 4 piece combos to the block, and your stamina regens at the same rate or faster than someone’s block makes me really upset.
Winning with 79 strikes landing out of 242 barely into the second round with McGregor says it all. That’s not even counting the fact that you were working him with a strike rate of almost 60%.
Stamina is the biggest problem this game has. You escape clinch? You lose stamina. You defend takedowns? You lose stamina. But if you miss more than 2/3 , your stamina is not affected at all. I hope game changers can do something about it.
Your right pry. In a real fight who is throwing so many hooks and straights in a round and not gassing out and still being able to sustain that in the other rounds. Its too fake and arcadish
Conor McGregor needs a stamina nerf. Like him in particular. As far as ripping combos on someone's guard, That's totally sustainable in real life. I get how this dude's strat is annoying, but it's not that unrealistic, when you're getting beaten up at range you should press forward and try and hammer the guy with combinations after he attempts to counter you, particularly against edson Barbosa who kicks a lot which is much harder to do on the back foot, even in the game, body kicks needed damage boost though, no way Connor eats a switch kick like that.
I remember this fight I had not too long ago. I’m using Anthony Pettis and I’m fighting a Carlos Condit- I drop the dude at least 6 times before finally getting a ragdoll animation. I jump and try to get the finish and some how he survives- no thanks to Anthony Pettis’ glass chin in this game which I think is inaccurate because that guy can take some beating, he knocks me out with a head kick. You can put so much effort in just to lose off a surprise head kick with no actual reasoning behind it.
Fr i love using Pettis in this game but he is so fucking broken. The dude took beatings and hasn’t been folded yet, but in this game it feels like I’m using glass chin Overeem. Plus I feel you I lost so many times where I dropped someone 3-4 times and got finished by one knockdown and g&p.
I feel like the ground game definitely needs a nerf or a new process it’s so damn predictable and doesn’t make sense when my opponent supposedly Runs out of stamina and still be able to deny my transitions like nothing
A big issue with this game is that stamina doesn't play enough of a role. I consistently played against guys who throw 150+ punches in a round and 80+ are significant strikes. The fact that they don't gas while just hitting arms is so stupid. Counters to long winded combos should be more effective too. Block break without thinking about which combos to throw are way too effective. Block health should go back faster if you get a good counter and it might encourage less spam
Stamina is fuckin broken also GROUND GAME IS SO TRASH. How is it possible I can reverse a position get on top from blocking a punch? Find me a time in the UFC somebody was getting mauled on the ground and they reverse one fucking strike and switch from bottom to top
facts if u counter a winded figher in fight night ud get dropped, there is no reward for surviving the onslaught, they winded and backing up just a s fast as the first bell
I definitely feel more cheated by the game than the players , the last Ufc had a serious body knee problem that everyone exploited , this one fucks me over in weird scenarios every other game like a bad takedown animation or a properly timed block that glitches a fist sized hole in my arm lmao
Guys like these in ufc 3 were so easy to handle because of the hit reaction takedowns. Clinching slowed the fight down. It was just better counter striking in ufc 3. Now, everyone thinks they’re swiss libax 😂
Shit, kicks in general. Throwing a leg kick or body kick is a death sentence since they don’t intercept the opponents strikes. Your throwing a body kick while your opponent throws a jab hook combination and your getting rocked because they just eat the kick
We need a lil group of players that agree to fight in a technical manner, would just be a fun change of pace. My most fun games are against my buddy because he isnt walking be down block breaking me.
Respect for this bro. I came back after 2 weeks since launch because i burnt myself out from UFC 3 & literally everyone just walks forward and throws the same muscle memorised robotic combinations until the block is down. There’s no technicality or thought process towards there game, it’s just pick the best fighter, walk forward & throw until the punches are going through the guard, not to mention there footwork is none existent. I’m not even bad at the game, I used to hang around top 20 to 1 in UFC 3 & reached first in the beginning of 4’s release but it’s gotten to a point where you can’t have a game that isn’t sloppy & unrealistic because they want to just stand in your grill and throw. It’s like take a step back mate & let’s actually think about some setups and try to confuse each other. I really can’t see the fun in that sort of style, it’s just the same thing over and over.
Pryoxis never stop man I appreciate these vids I’ve lost in this game just cause I lose all my stamina trying to use their terrible head movement and don’t get me started on the wrestling (which is my fav to use) ground and pound is just awful thank you for these vids man
Just wanna give you some respect in the comments . I'm nowhere near as good as you tbh (2k is my game ) but you've definitely made me a better UFC 4 fighter because of your videos . Keep doing ya thing bro !!
I’m a fan of yours , pretty much all the high level ufc guys on UA-cam , you guys have helped me enormously , with that being said a lot of this seems emotions talking, there is absolutely nothing you can do about the block problem but the only way to stop someone being too aggressive is countering them, my slip to the side and making them run into a straight followed up by a lead hook has helped me smoke a lot of the pressure fighters
Mean zero disrespect just giving insight, the second guy you fight just seemed to be fighting aggressively , like he threw a jab spinning heel kick to the stomach and it upset you and that just confused me a little bit. nothing but love honestly
95% of these pressure fighters come in with a jab followed by the straight and i just learned before they even get the left hook to come out if I can dip to the side and drop a straight then lead hook it usually wobbles them because their stamina is lowering from throwing a combo
One of the worst things about block break is that once it’s broken, sometimes you also can’t move your head. This happens fairly often on PS4. The devs know about it, it’s been around since UFC 3. Players DEFINITELY know about it hence the amount of 1-2 headkicks, and overhands
Plus you got to do body shots. Especially at the end of their combos. When they’re gassed more. Then they’ll start covering the body that’s when you go to the head.
Idk some people truly do spam combos endlessly but the Conor who played wasn’t a bad player. Conor is a pressure fighter in real life so ofc that’s how you should play Conor in the game. The Conor was very technical imo, when I face pressure fighters I just try to out pressure them and disrupt their rhythm. Hindsight is 20/20 but I feel as tho you could’ve landed more body shots to disrupt his rhythm . I think the first Conor used the block breaking meta but I wouldn’t call that abusing it necessarily. I will say tho, ea has to nerf it, cause it feels like fighters have endless stamina at times
That’s what the ESFL fights looked like this weekend. 90% of it was who has the upper hand with the combos. Close to watching the same fight over and over.
I also hate that style when people just run away the whole fight until they either throw switch kick to the body or a front kick to the face then just run away again. so annoying
I hate this style too, they said we have a new clinch system which in my opinion is meaningless, can’t even transition when defending clinch, but striking is broken, the footwork, tracking punches when you try to sway or sidestep, health and stamina bar, a lot of matches my opponent throws 300+ strikes and still has more than 50% stamina, so even if all connected or even landed it has a zero chance that irl you can still be with more than half your health, I still think that they should fix the swaying and tracking, in ufc 3 you can counter guys like these in round 1, read the movement, sway/sidestep, rock, deplete the health bar, finish. And just let not talk about the supposedly “reworked” ground game and gnp system; the most op aspect of the game where spamming strikes from a postured postition(especially back side) is a guarateed 90% win(and I am talking about players that can defend it, hook frame, head movement,timing etc)
The biggest problem with this game is that stuns win rounds not knockdowns you can get multiple knockdowns and still loose to someone getting petty stuns which make no sense
Its pretty sad when ur hyped about a ufc game then u spend 60 on a ufc game only to play stand and bang..also i hate that they made take downs and body shots the same buttons that's the dumbest shit ever,.,.i go for body shot but no i shoot a takedown gtfoh ea....also thanks for the like pry.
@@joecarrier5048 Basic and simple as fuck? I can barely memorize half the shit they tell me in training sounds like you got too much time on your hands bud.
There seems to be a bigger stamina tax for using head movement than there is for missing punches... When ufc 3 first came out, it didn't cost any stamina at all to move your head... I thought the game was much more fun that way, reminded me of fightnight... untill they patched it for whatever reason... Now A person can throw a 4 punch combo and you can WEAVE all 4 punches, but have LESS stamina left than they do 😵
i understand that the ame is made for casual players. n yes when a casual player pressure u like this u can ko them easy. the proplem that ea is not seeing is when u give this to a player like ek warrior who understand how to exploit it.
The thing I hate the most is how everything seems to promote spamming. In ufc 3 if someone was spamming I would just take them down and hit him but in ufc 4 the ground and pound is so ass it’s not even worth trying. In ufc3 I could throw leg kicks at a spammer to slow them down but now leg kicks don’t do shit in ufc 4. I have about 18 paragraphs work of things I hate about the game but I ain’t typing all that.
Yeah I hate that style also. Especially with mcgregor because of the type of jab Straight he has. Counter punching ain’t even that effective against higher level players sometimes head movement doesn’t even register
Ufc 4 should add a mode which makes you be able to have your own universe. You start off with the rankings just randomized and then the game picks events for you to do and you can have your own champs and rankings get judged on who wins the fights in the events
I just hate the clinch and new submission system. Ufc3 boxing is much more technical, grappling didnt change much but the ground n pound in ufc 4 feel more fun
I have lots of respect for dudes like you and Martial, it’s a real shame they made UFC4 so cheese. I really hope the next mma game is made by a different team.
Your so fooken right. The stamina needs to take a hit to stamina on so many strikes not being landed. And they also gota get the UFC 3 effect of slowing down with low stamina and busted legs from leg kicks. So needed, even for all the lower ranked fights. Its all in UFC 3. Cut and paste.
To play devils advocate. Imagine UFC fight where one dude throw that many punches and you are here just blocking. For sure he will do the same thing irl. You rly cant just stand there and block in mma
We need a finish the fight on each ko and rag doll . We need elbows and hammerfist Short colors Real tko animations , real ref on submission A few things we asked for years now 2021 and the game look like a 2009 game Is that normal ? 4th iteration 4TH
I thought I was the only one noticing this, this BS is all over ufc nowadays. You can't play on the outside, you almost can't even really grapple. Everyone just runs at you and spams combos and half the time they will drain ALL of their stamina and the game honestly does NOT punish them for that. And it's almost impossible to punish them because of this horrible fighting style they implement. It requires no skill whatsoever and it basically cancels out everything in the game except for maybe getting them in the clinch and honestly that really doesn't even help either. I hate this bs too, I am with you 100%
i always find success with pressure fighters when i stick and start trading in the pocket. i’ll stop backing up, throw a feint to get a reaction and then try to counter their second punch.
Am I blind or did the opponent never gas in that fight? After all these missed strikes, the pressure and the rocks and drops he still didn't reach the "gassed stance". This is ridiculous...
@@kisslondonHE I don't agree with the perks part because certain fighters have their skills that should be shown like for Francis ngannou heavy hands but they should be nerfed a bit like opprotunist
You're doing all the hard work weaving out of the way and countering, but mcgregor can just keep walking forward like terminator. There's not enough power in the counters like there used to be, he should have been rocked on so many of the sway hooks.
EK = broken pressure with no defense aka spam jab straights until the block is ruined. T4H = spam undeniable clinch and takedowns and sit in side control. Can read these players better than div 4 players but because the game still needs major work, they will always exploit. The stamina needs major major work. I feel sorting the stamina sorts 90% the problem. Plus taking away that opportunist perk. Throwing 200+ strikes in a round in a half you should be virtually crawling for air
I agree block breaking is easier in ufc 4 than it is ufc 3 BUT martial has shown the way to counter an extreme pressure fighter. I think its because your style isn't synonymous with what needs to be done to counter. Pry u play very technical and sometimes defensive (even though I've heard you say recently you're not a great defensive fighter it subconsciously is part of your style). If you up your aggression and not walk backwards stand your ground plant and rip combos and make them pay to enter the pocket ud have a better out come versus that style. Crazy as it sounds maybe less leg kicks becuz it leaves u open for str8 strikes which is essential in the block break style. So you're being countered every leg kick with a jab str8 then you curl up and try to back off to create space when you could be fainting leg kick and rip a 3 to 4 hit combo. Just some tip bits in no way am I saying I'm better than you or anything just giving you an diff perspective because you already have your ideology of a fight and im saying if you try something a lil diff SPECIFICALLY for those style fighters it may help
And just as I post this while watching at 14:40 you kinda touch on it already lol. I still think for those type of fighters you may have to leave your comfort zone to adapt to the ufc 4 environment but I totally understand having a style u like and willing to die on your shield with it
I honestly think that the block Health it's right cause in real life you don't block shots very well with small gloves, however in real life when you throw 160 shots and only land 47 you gas the hell out, also make no sense that you throw a 6 shots combo and the last shots are powerful as the first ones, i think they should keep the block Health like it is but definitely change long term cardio and short term too (overall cardio system)
And as I'm continuing to watch, there's been an uptick in overhand usages with most online fighters. And the ptsd 1-2-3 is nasty because it shouldn't even be possible. Like whenever I fight as Conor, I can pressure decently but wtf are these players taking bruh? I needa face you to show what a decent Conor looks like dawg 🔥🔥😂
Ridiculous. They need to make the cost of stamina much more effective. I've blocked 1 takedown shoot before and it took about 5% of my stamina.... Throw and wiff 20 strikes and you won't even lose that
I agree that the pressure fighting is too op but they I think if they nerf the stamina too many casuals will complain and ea will lose too many customers.
im not so good like ( 2200 points )you and l love your videos, you are right that its need some nerf but i gotta tell you, when im facing this kind of fighter i usually wins, i try to avoid contact and not engage much , only stationary push kick and some cross to the body, also the bail takedown works great because they coming foward, and then in round 3 im starting to pick them apart. it should afflict them m stamina penalty to this kind of fighting but when its five rounds, you should be able to do more. you seem that you caught emotionally with this stupid unrealstic style and i understand you. mush respect
Lol this guy probably sits inside 24/7 playing this game. He also beat Martial with the block break spam. Jab straight headkick and jab jab jab jab jab jab into a hook are his favorite combos. It’s clearly the best way to play the game though
But I know how you feel because that kid was honestly annoying with that block breaking. That’s something they have to fix. Two jabs and your blocks are vulnerable. Hopefully they fix that.
I hear you! I have experienced that as well. Most of these fighters are not that technical. And what I don't understand is, how are none of your hits doing any damage? When you are getting clear hard hits! They did that in UFC 3 as well. I don't know what the devs are thinking. They do need to nerf that. Any 1 of your front kicks, in real life, put people out on impact. So why not the same, if its well timed in the game??
I agree to a certain extent but not every fight is going to be technical, there are consistent pressure fighters in real life, like gaethje or max not everything has to be technical. I think if you stand there backing up not throwing much then youre asking for your block to be broken lol. Like bro the first fight you were just walking back the whole fight, I know it's tough but if barboza does that in real life against Conor he would also get overwhelmed. I think your leg kicks should of done more damage though and hurt his movement
I totally agree with you pry i also find the switch kick a big problem Its to fast and does to much damage and people are spamming it. I only had 2 good realistic fights in the game one chess striking match with feeling out proces wich was awesome and a grappling match without battling for ga the whole time. The real problem is that EA doesnt know sht bout fighting and so do most of the casual players.
When I first started a few months ago it was not like this bro. I could play strategy and real MMA. Now it’s like I’m playing a bunch of 13 y.o’s jacked up on Mountain Dew
I Fixed the Fooking Title! Haha.
I was confused looking at the notification
@@Amadeus213 No martial mind with a third round ko ua-cam.com/video/qHML6j6UAaM/v-deo.html
This man threw 200+ strikes in 2 rounds with no stamina loss? put into perspective that Tony Ferguson and Justin Gaethje went 5 rounds at UFC 249, Gaethje threw 197 strikes, IN 5 ROUNDS! Unbelievable..
@@Amadeus213 Ohhhhh
I was like he need to go to school
EA needs to fix the "block" bar/health. There is no such thing as a damn "block" health in real life. If you're going to actually incorporate a proper blocking system, then bring back arm health. They also need to make arm health bars for both arms for obvious reasons. Also, they need to implement true body health bars for your right, center, and left sides of the body. You'd think in the 4th installment they would understand the most basic concepts of human anatomy in combat sports. Watching players cheese and break block bars is some of the corniest and fake shit I've seen in a mixed martial arts game.
Agree with every point except for the body. It hurts more on the open side but the body is the body
U are so correct my friend. Someone understands the concept of damage to the human body and not a health bar. Well said.
Jab straight head kick and occasionally mix it up with an uppercut, this shit infuriates me
The legs too when they are too much damaged the fighter should move slower
trust me bro I know its fucked up seeing a mega company fail to even attempt to understand the most fundemental aspects of a sport seeing as EA fucked up Madden worse and worse every year, it gets unplayable earlier in the year every game
Man idc who’s says your crying bro keep speaking out until they fix this broken ass pressure system I’ve lost count of how many bums I’ve lost to because they can spam endless combos miss 80% of there shots but somehow still have more stamina then me because I’m actually using footwork and head movement instead of button smashing and walking forward like a zombie shit is broken and takes away from the fun of us actual combat sports fans who know what a real fight should look like!
Exactly. Bro and ty
Bro I'm glad im not the only one who feels this way, lets trash ass players feel good
And then they have the nerve to send you a message after winning off some bullshit
@@left2433 Bro what!!! Shitters are always the most toxic I really think it’s because deep down they are insecure because they know they have no skill so when they get a lucky win they feel the need to rub it in
You said this perfectly bro
It’s aggravating af. Especially when i’m having a great fight with someone who’s clearly skilled then they revert to the broken aspects of the game to secure the w
Foreal this is why I’m playing ufc 3 still . Block breaking and throwing 300 strikes a round and to finsh it off with a glass of ground and spam
Factssss!
UFC 4: Walk down, Block break
Counters only
Don’t forget the ground and spam!
@@Mythowars Counter striking is the best, you can see how pissed they get when they get hit with a flurry.... They go from 7hit combos to jab-straight-lead elbow, elbow-knee-knee reset
@@redstoppa1959 counter striking is too good is what I’m saying. Shouldn’t be in trouble from one uppercut 30 seconds in
@@Mythowars Counter striking is not good in ufc 4
this is the guy who broke martial minds winning streak. martial got him back though.
@@MegaColin10 he was talking about the guy pry faced in the first fight ek warrior he was martials only loss on road to top 10 series
Yep and if they fight each other 10times more we know who will win🙂
Martial. Cause martial has beat him 4 other times
Do you remember which episode it was? Kinda wanna watch it
@@turo3262 it’s called “Well, there goes my winning streak” it was uploaded about a month ago.
The first guy wouldn't be a top player if wasn't for the broken pressure game
This game ain’t even fun anymore, took two years to develop a watered down version of the last two. Hella disappointing
I gave up on this shit and reinstalled 3, haven’t looked back since
Larkin FRRRRRR
Just wait for ufc 4.5 coming 2024
Larkin do a lot of ppl still play 3??
Yes this game is garbage been garbage since beta
Bruh the first guy broke more than half of your block with 2 jabs wtf 😭
Welcome to UFC 4
Exactly why I stopped playing
@@Pryoxis also the connection problem sucks ass.
Unrealistic ass shit
Theres a dude on xbox who only uses garbrant and just pressure fights and breaks my block so easy no matter how much I move. So annoying.
Absolutely nuts he threw 162 strikes in that first round and he only landed 47. He missed over a hundred strikes and a round and that's a top level player. Between this issue and the fact that someone can get rocked 20 times in a fight meaning that they made 20 mistakes that should have had them knocked out at least 18 of those times. thank you for doing this video I'm putting it out there some more people can get understanding of what you're talking about
Everything just needs to cost more stamina. Ripping 4 piece combos to the block, and your stamina regens at the same rate or faster than someone’s block makes me really upset.
completely agree, stamina doesnt mean shit anymore
It got worse somebody was doing 9 hit combos on me back to back to back and had full stamina the whole time
This game reminds me of society, just a Big Enabler of negative madness which get's rewarded.
Love that description of society.. very accurate
👍
Winning with 79 strikes landing out of 242 barely into the second round with McGregor says it all. That’s not even counting the fact that you were working him with a strike rate of almost 60%.
Thank you bro! People don’t see it.
Stamina is the biggest problem this game has. You escape clinch? You lose stamina. You defend takedowns? You lose stamina. But if you miss more than 2/3 , your stamina is not affected at all. I hope game changers can do something about it.
This game is evolving, but backwards
It’s devolving
Like everything else around us
Your right pry. In a real fight who is throwing so many hooks and straights in a round and not gassing out and still being able to sustain that in the other rounds. Its too fake and arcadish
Agree 100%
Conor McGregor needs a stamina nerf. Like him in particular. As far as ripping combos on someone's guard, That's totally sustainable in real life. I get how this dude's strat is annoying, but it's not that unrealistic, when you're getting beaten up at range you should press forward and try and hammer the guy with combinations after he attempts to counter you, particularly against edson Barbosa who kicks a lot which is much harder to do on the back foot, even in the game, body kicks needed damage boost though, no way Connor eats a switch kick like that.
@@rubberlegs2883 Connor’s combo’s are so overpowering it’s ridiculous...
@@boyifyoudonttt you just suck..
lol I’m in top 500 shut your mouth boi I’d put a clinic on you, gamertag is NRD0
I remember this fight I had not too long ago. I’m using Anthony Pettis and I’m fighting a Carlos Condit- I drop the dude at least 6 times before finally getting a ragdoll animation. I jump and try to get the finish and some how he survives- no thanks to Anthony Pettis’ glass chin in this game which I think is inaccurate because that guy can take some beating, he knocks me out with a head kick. You can put so much effort in just to lose off a surprise head kick with no actual reasoning behind it.
I feel you bro, I would dog someone the whole match and they wouldn’t stun or wobble me not once and I get hit with a baby ass hook and k.o for me😂
Fr i love using Pettis in this game but he is so fucking broken. The dude took beatings and hasn’t been folded yet, but in this game it feels like I’m using glass chin Overeem.
Plus I feel you I lost so many times where I dropped someone 3-4 times and got finished by one knockdown and g&p.
I feel like the ground game definitely needs a nerf or a new process it’s so damn predictable and doesn’t make sense when my opponent supposedly Runs out of stamina and still be able to deny my transitions like nothing
not me getting a notification saying “this is why your i hate ufc 4” 😂😂😂
FIXEDDDD
A big issue with this game is that stamina doesn't play enough of a role. I consistently played against guys who throw 150+ punches in a round and 80+ are significant strikes. The fact that they don't gas while just hitting arms is so stupid. Counters to long winded combos should be more effective too. Block break without thinking about which combos to throw are way too effective. Block health should go back faster if you get a good counter and it might encourage less spam
Stamina is fuckin broken also GROUND GAME IS SO TRASH. How is it possible I can reverse a position get on top from blocking a punch? Find me a time in the UFC somebody was getting mauled on the ground and they reverse one fucking strike and switch from bottom to top
facts if u counter a winded figher in fight night ud get dropped, there is no reward for surviving the onslaught, they winded and backing up just a s fast as the first bell
@@armaansidhu6233 fr fr yo , the stay there swaying like a fukin leaf, and ur more gassed cause u threw 2 punches
Game is broken, kept ufc 3 problems and sprinkled on a lot of its own
Devs aren't listening to the community
haven’t even watched but i already know you spitting facts
I definitely feel more cheated by the game than the players , the last Ufc had a serious body knee problem that everyone exploited , this one fucks me over in weird scenarios every other game like a bad takedown animation or a properly timed block that glitches a fist sized hole in my arm lmao
Guys like these in ufc 3 were so easy to handle because of the hit reaction takedowns. Clinching slowed the fight down. It was just better counter striking in ufc 3. Now, everyone thinks they’re swiss libax 😂
BINGO!!!
That intro is fire 🔥🔥pryoxis THE BEST ESFL CHAMPION
Thank you👍🏾
Happy new year pry, you’ve been a big inspiration and today I’ve started my own channel! All the best love from the UK
Thank you Bro🖤
47 out of 160 landed lol .. in ufc 3 stamina would be toast
I fought him all the time in UFC 3 and surprising enough his style was the same. Jabs and block breaks.
Did he at least gas ?
@@m_king_prime9223 not before I would get knocked out lol
No it wouldn't you touch arm or glove you not losing anything 😅
Bro I was just saying the same thing couple hours ago. Leg kicks are awful and pressure fighting is too strong and doesn't tax stamina enough.
Shit, kicks in general. Throwing a leg kick or body kick is a death sentence since they don’t intercept the opponents strikes. Your throwing a body kick while your opponent throws a jab hook combination and your getting rocked because they just eat the kick
Spot on, the meta should be much more about finding openings rather than focusing on blasting away on the block.
We need a lil group of players that agree to fight in a technical manner, would just be a fun change of pace. My most fun games are against my buddy because he isnt walking be down block breaking me.
Respect for this bro. I came back after 2 weeks since launch because i burnt myself out from UFC 3 & literally everyone just walks forward and throws the same muscle memorised robotic combinations until the block is down. There’s no technicality or thought process towards there game, it’s just pick the best fighter, walk forward & throw until the punches are going through the guard, not to mention there footwork is none existent.
I’m not even bad at the game, I used to hang around top 20 to 1 in UFC 3 & reached first in the beginning of 4’s release but it’s gotten to a point where you can’t have a game that isn’t sloppy & unrealistic because they want to just stand in your grill and throw.
It’s like take a step back mate & let’s actually think about some setups and try to confuse each other.
I really can’t see the fun in that sort of style, it’s just the same thing over and over.
If they are not going to fix block break then atleast u shud be able to move quicker and get out of the danger zone
Exactly.
Pryoxis never stop man I appreciate these vids I’ve lost in this game just cause I lose all my stamina trying to use their terrible head movement and don’t get me started on the wrestling (which is my fav to use) ground and pound is just awful thank you for these vids man
Just wanna give you some respect in the comments . I'm nowhere near as good as you tbh (2k is my game ) but you've definitely made me a better UFC 4 fighter because of your videos . Keep doing ya thing bro !!
Respect👍🏾 Glad I could Help.
I’m a fan of yours , pretty much all the high level ufc guys on UA-cam , you guys have helped me enormously , with that being said a lot of this seems emotions talking, there is absolutely nothing you can do about the block problem but the only way to stop someone being too aggressive is countering them, my slip to the side and making them run into a straight followed up by a lead hook has helped me smoke a lot of the pressure fighters
Mean zero disrespect just giving insight, the second guy you fight just seemed to be fighting aggressively , like he threw a jab spinning heel kick to the stomach and it upset you and that just confused me a little bit. nothing but love honestly
95% of these pressure fighters come in with a jab followed by the straight and i just learned before they even get the left hook to come out if I can dip to the side and drop a straight then lead hook it usually wobbles them because their stamina is lowering from throwing a combo
doesnt work all the time, ull get hit even trying to sway and evade
One of the worst things about block break is that once it’s broken, sometimes you also can’t move your head. This happens fairly often on PS4. The devs know about it, it’s been around since UFC 3. Players DEFINITELY know about it hence the amount of 1-2 headkicks, and overhands
Elbows are my friend when pressure players get too close
Elbows have SHITTY Hit recognition
@@Pryoxis true!!! I still get knocked out half the time
Watched all the way, but keep your money pry....nice showcase youre still one of the best around
Plus you got to do body shots. Especially at the end of their combos. When they’re gassed more. Then they’ll start covering the body that’s when you go to the head.
“This style is annoying!” ... spams leg kick three times lmfao
Bro leg kicks SUCK!
Pryoxis always with the chill gameplay and commentary. Always loving it
Pry I always watch your vids from start to finish man 👑
Idk some people truly do spam combos endlessly but the Conor who played wasn’t a bad player. Conor is a pressure fighter in real life so ofc that’s how you should play Conor in the game. The Conor was very technical imo, when I face pressure fighters I just try to out pressure them and disrupt their rhythm. Hindsight is 20/20 but I feel as tho you could’ve landed more body shots to disrupt his rhythm . I think the first Conor used the block breaking meta but I wouldn’t call that abusing it necessarily. I will say tho, ea has to nerf it, cause it feels like fighters have endless stamina at times
You’re correct but Conor doesn’t throw that much his pressure is with distance and failed sense of safety and countering
the max holloway’s and created pressure fighters are pissed watching this
if they don’t nerf max’s spinning back kick then I have no choice but to pick him everytime 😂 if u can’t beat em, join em.
@@boyifyoudonttt conor destroys max in this game, so if someone takes max just pick conor. The reach, power, and speed is too much to deal with.
@@bigchief5063 yea I agree, I just like to use fighters that are southpaw and I also feel guilty using Conor seeing as he’s also very OP 😂
What div are you guys
@@MM-ch5gs div 20 top 100. Gamertag is pthind4
Yo for the second dude you could have tried a low kick feint and then a high kick to finish. Great vid
That’s what the ESFL fights looked like this weekend. 90% of it was who has the upper hand with the combos. Close to watching the same fight over and over.
I also hate that style when people just run away the whole fight until they either throw switch kick to the body or a front kick to the face then just run away again. so annoying
Agreed people consistently running should take a stamina tax aswell.
@@Pryoxis i need EA to make leg kicks affect movement so theres actually at least something u can do about someone just running back the whole fight
@@Pryoxis if it was true to the UFC there would be more ability to run away.
Like Stipes backwards fighting.
Or Reyes when he beat Wideman.
I redownloaded UFC 3 last night, I'm done with this meta block breaking nonsense.
Never deleted it lmaooo I’m boutta run some matches rn
i go back and forth, when i want to have fun and play competitively i’ll play ufc 3, when i want to grind ranked points i hop on ufc 4
I hate this style too, they said we have a new clinch system which in my opinion is meaningless, can’t even transition when defending clinch, but striking is broken, the footwork, tracking punches when you try to sway or sidestep, health and stamina bar, a lot of matches my opponent throws 300+ strikes and still has more than 50% stamina, so even if all connected or even landed it has a zero chance that irl you can still be with more than half your health, I still think that they should fix the swaying and tracking, in ufc 3 you can counter guys like these in round 1, read the movement, sway/sidestep, rock, deplete the health bar, finish. And just let not talk about the supposedly “reworked” ground game and gnp system; the most op aspect of the game where spamming strikes from a postured postition(especially back side) is a guarateed 90% win(and I am talking about players that can defend it, hook frame, head movement,timing etc)
The biggest problem with this game is that stuns win rounds not knockdowns you can get multiple knockdowns and still loose to someone getting petty stuns which make no sense
So they still haven’t fixed block break?.goddamn!!!!!.get this meta out pleeeeese.
This game is way to arcade style....along with the awful ground game (ground an pound) an broken clinch game ect...
Its pretty sad when ur hyped about a ufc game then u spend 60 on a ufc game only to play stand and bang..also i hate that they made take downs and body shots the same buttons that's the dumbest shit ever,.,.i go for body shot but no i shoot a takedown gtfoh ea....also thanks for the like pry.
@@joecarrier5048 damn bro it’s that bad? Lol it’s on sale for like $30 rn I was thinking about getting it but everybody calling it ass 😂
@@Stinkmeaner-_- i would say if it's 30 its worth getting because alot of the promblems are fixable if ea decides to fix em is another story tho lol.
@Scarface yea the totally fucked up ground and pound by trying to make it basic an simple af
@@joecarrier5048 Basic and simple as fuck? I can barely memorize half the shit they tell me in training sounds like you got too much time on your hands bud.
Leg kick spammers are really annoying too
Very east to deal with too
There seems to be a bigger stamina tax for using head movement than there is for missing punches... When ufc 3 first came out, it didn't cost any stamina at all to move your head... I thought the game was much more fun that way, reminded me of fightnight... untill they patched it for whatever reason... Now A person can throw a 4 punch combo and you can WEAVE all 4 punches, but have LESS stamina left than they do 😵
i understand that the ame is made for casual players. n yes when a casual player pressure u like this u can ko them easy. the proplem that ea is not seeing is when u give this to a player like ek warrior who understand how to exploit it.
The thing I hate the most is how everything seems to promote spamming. In ufc 3 if someone was spamming I would just take them down and hit him but in ufc 4 the ground and pound is so ass it’s not even worth trying. In ufc3 I could throw leg kicks at a spammer to slow them down but now leg kicks don’t do shit in ufc 4. I have about 18 paragraphs work of things I hate about the game but I ain’t typing all that.
Yeah I hate that style also. Especially with mcgregor because of the type of jab Straight he has. Counter punching ain’t even that effective against higher level players sometimes head movement doesn’t even register
Imagine working for ea and feeling fulfilled in life
Ufc 4 should add a mode which makes you be able to have your own universe. You start off with the rankings just randomized and then the game picks events for you to do and you can have your own champs and rankings get judged on who wins the fights in the events
I just hate the clinch and new submission system. Ufc3 boxing is much more technical, grappling didnt change much but the ground n pound in ufc 4 feel more fun
Conor is OP with the block breaking meta but my main issue is the striking stamina system. The game is sped up and arcadey
Facts
I have lots of respect for dudes like you and Martial, it’s a real shame they made UFC4 so cheese. I really hope the next mma game is made by a different team.
Your so fooken right. The stamina needs to take a hit to stamina on so many strikes not being landed. And they also gota get the UFC 3 effect of slowing down with low stamina and busted legs from leg kicks. So needed, even for all the lower ranked fights. Its all in UFC 3. Cut and paste.
To play devils advocate. Imagine UFC fight where one dude throw that many punches and you are here just blocking. For sure he will do the same thing irl. You rly cant just stand there and block in mma
Yes. But problem is strikes will follow head movement and counters don’t do enough dmg.
Something that works sometimes against this play style is the teep kick to the body just to keep them off you for a little
We need a finish the fight on each ko and rag doll .
We need elbows and hammerfist
Short colors
Real tko animations , real ref on submission
A few things we asked for years now 2021 and the game look like a 2009 game
Is that normal ? 4th iteration 4TH
I had a seizure reading the title lmao
With a guy that’s notoriously known for lack of stamina...they lost a long time ago when they rated cats better than the g.o.a.t Bruce Lee...🤦🏾♂️
Bro this video 🔥🔥 those leg kicks where deadly
If he’s pressuring go for a take down clinch or front kick to the body,works for my play style
Now a year later you throw 60 strikes and have no stamina, great idea bro; the game just needs to be forgotten ufc 3 and 2 were way better
I thought I was the only one noticing this, this BS is all over ufc nowadays. You can't play on the outside, you almost can't even really grapple. Everyone just runs at you and spams combos and half the time they will drain ALL of their stamina and the game honestly does NOT punish them for that. And it's almost impossible to punish them because of this horrible fighting style they implement. It requires no skill whatsoever and it basically cancels out everything in the game except for maybe getting them in the clinch and honestly that really doesn't even help either. I hate this bs too, I am with you 100%
Yepp I’m 100% with you.
i always find success with pressure fighters when i stick and start trading in the pocket. i’ll stop backing up, throw a feint to get a reaction and then try to counter their second punch.
Am I blind or did the opponent never gas in that fight? After all these missed strikes, the pressure and the rocks and drops he still didn't reach the "gassed stance". This is ridiculous...
Nope he did not.
They should make the hit get slower when you spam, since it’s slower you’ll be able to predict or defend more easily.
And they should remove perks, it’s way more competitive and balanced playing with perks off. We should start a riot to get EA to listen !!
@@kisslondonHE I don't agree with the perks part because certain fighters have their skills that should be shown like for Francis ngannou heavy hands but they should be nerfed a bit like opprotunist
The only way to heat these guys is to mix up hitting their bodies and clinch them still focusing on the body.
You're doing all the hard work weaving out of the way and countering, but mcgregor can just keep walking forward like terminator. There's not enough power in the counters like there used to be, he should have been rocked on so many of the sway hooks.
Yepppppp!!!
EK = broken pressure with no defense aka spam jab straights until the block is ruined.
T4H = spam undeniable clinch and takedowns and sit in side control.
Can read these players better than div 4 players but because the game still needs major work, they will always exploit. The stamina needs major major work. I feel sorting the stamina sorts 90% the problem. Plus taking away that opportunist perk. Throwing 200+ strikes in a round in a half you should be virtually crawling for air
Chin Up man, Martial got the W but that doesn't take anything away from your skill, Pry for GOAT 💪
at this point it’s literally just muscle memory to like your videos as soon as i click on the noti lmfao
I agree block breaking is easier in ufc 4 than it is ufc 3 BUT martial has shown the way to counter an extreme pressure fighter. I think its because your style isn't synonymous with what needs to be done to counter. Pry u play very technical and sometimes defensive (even though I've heard you say recently you're not a great defensive fighter it subconsciously is part of your style). If you up your aggression and not walk backwards stand your ground plant and rip combos and make them pay to enter the pocket ud have a better out come versus that style. Crazy as it sounds maybe less leg kicks becuz it leaves u open for str8 strikes which is essential in the block break style. So you're being countered every leg kick with a jab str8 then you curl up and try to back off to create space when you could be fainting leg kick and rip a 3 to 4 hit combo. Just some tip bits in no way am I saying I'm better than you or anything just giving you an diff perspective because you already have your ideology of a fight and im saying if you try something a lil diff SPECIFICALLY for those style fighters it may help
And just as I post this while watching at 14:40 you kinda touch on it already lol. I still think for those type of fighters you may have to leave your comfort zone to adapt to the ufc 4 environment but I totally understand having a style u like and willing to die on your shield with it
I watched till the end! had to see if he could survive them leg kicks
I honestly think that the block Health it's right cause in real life you don't block shots very well with small gloves, however in real life when you throw 160 shots and only land 47 you gas the hell out, also make no sense that you throw a 6 shots combo and the last shots are powerful as the first ones, i think they should keep the block Health like it is but definitely change long term cardio and short term too (overall cardio system)
I’m fine with the block system if my opponent gases out. Also the jab shouldn’t do half of my block dmg tho.
And as I'm continuing to watch, there's been an uptick in overhand usages with most online fighters. And the ptsd 1-2-3 is nasty because it shouldn't even be possible. Like whenever I fight as Conor, I can pressure decently but wtf are these players taking bruh? I needa face you to show what a decent Conor looks like dawg 🔥🔥😂
I’d love it
I hate how weak the blocking is too, but it’s not that unrealistic. I think the problem is that you can sustain this style for multiple rounds
Ridiculous. They need to make the cost of stamina much more effective. I've blocked 1 takedown shoot before and it took about 5% of my stamina.... Throw and wiff 20 strikes and you won't even lose that
I agree that the pressure fighting is too op but they I think if they nerf the stamina too many casuals will complain and ea will lose too many customers.
FUCK THEM CASUALS!
im not so good like ( 2200 points )you and l love your videos, you are right that its need some nerf but i gotta tell you, when im facing this kind of fighter i usually wins, i try to avoid contact and not engage much , only stationary push kick and some cross to the body, also the bail takedown works great because they coming foward, and then in round 3 im starting to pick them apart. it should afflict them m stamina penalty to this kind of fighting but when its five rounds, you should be able to do more. you seem that you caught emotionally with this stupid unrealstic style and i understand you. mush respect
also you should have move your head more
Lol this guy probably sits inside 24/7 playing this game. He also beat Martial with the block break spam. Jab straight headkick and jab jab jab jab jab jab into a hook are his favorite combos. It’s clearly the best way to play the game though
He never beat martial on this and he has a kid
The highest striking rate in the UFC is 8 per minute. That spammer threw 242 shots in 7 minutes; that's 34 shots per minute.
But I know how you feel because that kid was honestly annoying with that block breaking. That’s something they have to fix. Two jabs and your blocks are vulnerable. Hopefully they fix that.
Strikes on block should cause more stamina drain. You should have to find opening and not solely rely on block breakers.
I hear you! I have experienced that as well. Most of these fighters are not that technical. And what I don't understand is, how are none of your hits doing any damage? When you are getting clear hard hits! They did that in UFC 3 as well. I don't know what the devs are thinking. They do need to nerf that. Any 1 of your front kicks, in real life, put people out on impact. So why not the same, if its well timed in the game??
Just turned on UFC 3 on my Xbox and I see that there’s 8k concurrent players right now. Lmao that’s saying something
That Barboza fight was so satisfying to watch
I agree to a certain extent but not every fight is going to be technical, there are consistent pressure fighters in real life, like gaethje or max not everything has to be technical. I think if you stand there backing up not throwing much then youre asking for your block to be broken lol. Like bro the first fight you were just walking back the whole fight, I know it's tough but if barboza does that in real life against Conor he would also get overwhelmed. I think your leg kicks should of done more damage though and hurt his movement
I totally agree with you pry i also find the switch kick a big problem Its to fast and does to much damage and people are spamming it. I only had 2 good realistic fights in the game one chess striking match with feeling out proces wich was awesome and a grappling match without battling for ga the whole time. The real problem is that EA doesnt know sht bout fighting and so do most of the casual players.
Switch kick moving forward is BUSTED!
I agree with the blocking but the submission chaining is also broken
When I first started a few months ago it was not like this bro. I could play strategy and real MMA. Now it’s like I’m playing a bunch of 13 y.o’s jacked up on Mountain Dew
I'm never upset when losing to stuff like that or spammers. It's still clear to everyone who the better fighter is.
You were beating him UP