I watched the scene this song was in.....and...it was horrific. This song convinced me that this movie was a true tragedy. I think what happened to Lucy Barker is one of the most depressing things about this movie.
This is one of the more dreadfull songs of the movie. I mean poor thing was stalked, raped, mocked and laughed at, and thanks to the poison looney, and then kicked out because of lovett and forced to fend for her not so well self. Sweeneys loud 'NO' at the end was honestly hard to hear cause you can just hear the anger, hate and sadness in it as he believes his wife is dead until the very end.
@@HubertJasonCumberdale That first one? UGHH....Trust me, when you note that the sick bastard has a Peephole into his 'ward's' room and wishes to marry her, you'll be rooting for the Judge to die horribly and SNARL at the missed opportunity, same as Sweeney Todd.
I think that Lovett was her friend because later on she said that "she was there and that (his wife) just laid in bed all day" because the poison killed majority of her brain cells. So i'm guessing she took care of her for a while
I don't think that someone would invite Mrs. Lovett to that party. She's a poor woman with an unsuccessfull pie shop and a mask ball is more a "high society" thing, isn't it?
this was the part I realized that Ms Lovett was in love with Todd and did him dirty but Todd shouldn't have jumped to conclusions Ms Lovett never said she died
Helena=Bellatrix=Red queen=Mrs. Lovett Johnny=Gellert=Mad hatter=Sweeney Todd Alan (rip)=Severus=Blue Caterpillar=Judge Turpin The guy who played Wormtail is in these too. He plays the bard in sweeny todd
i think that Mrs. Lovett is like she's blaming Todd's wife for not accepting the judge's proposal that's why she got r*ped and 'Poor thing' to me sounds like Lovett belittling her or something.
Does anybody know of a good karaoke/instrumental version of this song like it is in this video(not the stage show version with the extra verses) Thanks xx
Helena Bonham Carter- Ms. Lovett. Alan Rickman- Judge Turpin "Wormtail" actor is Beadle. **** Gotta love how Tim Burton has 3 Harry Potter actors in the movie Jamie campbell bowl is in Twilight.
"...Poor thing! poor thing!..." "Could that thing ever cared for you like me?" Maybe Ms. Lovett was evil through and through. She never even saw Lucy as a person! Just a "thing"...
*ADAPTACIÓN ESPAÑOL* Había un barbero y su esposa Y el era hermoso Con la navaja un artista Pero lo hecharon del lugar Y era hermoso Barker era su nombre Benjamin Barker Cual fue su crimen Ingenuidad Su esposa tonta fue, al igual que él Hermosa también Tenía todo el mundo a sus pies Pobre, pobre Y enamoro a un juez Y la quería Siempre le enviaba regalos Pero esta no le hacía caso Y el se sentaba admirando Pobre
ya know, when u think about it, its all because of these 3 minutes that made todd what he is. and when mrs lovett tells him lucy died from poisoning herself. cause if mrs lovett told him the truth about lucy todd would still try to find her and get johanna back and wouldn’t be so blinded and obsessed with revenge cause he’d still be happy to see his family. and wouldn’t have started wanting to kill everyone. he’d still want revenge on turpin but he wouldn’t be so obsessed with it that it drove him to insanity.
why do they think its haunted? like Benjamin was sent off to prison, lucy is on the steeet and Johanna is Turpin's ward then who would be haunting it? besides isn't it common knowledge what happened to Benjamin, Johanna and Lucy?
@@mika-chantrancy5424 they all believed her dead. Only Mrs Lovett would know she was in bedlum for a bit. Other wise someone would have told Sweeney that the wife of the last man to live here was that crazy homeless women hanging aroung
I think it's more to do with the fact that such terrible things happened to the couple who lived there previously, so no one wants to live there after that for fear it's cursed, i.e. haunted
Honestly Mr.Parker/Todd could have returned earlier I think. It didn't sound at all like he was being watched after the accused crime that the judge got him exiled for. All he had to do was change his appearance, change his name and come back into the city. Yet I guess if that did happen, the judge would be suspicious over the "new" man in Lucy's life after Mr.Todd had explained to his wife that it is him, he just did a visual and name change to get back into the city to be with her. And judge might have remembered what Mr.Parker's voice sounded like, so he'd get startled if he over passed the disguised Mr.Parker when it hasn't been three years apart. In 3 years, I'm positive the judge forgotten what the man looked and sounded like, so it was easy for Mr.Todd to return. It's just sad it had to be a tragedy is all I'm saying. If Mr.Parker was being monitored by the judge's men while in exile, I guess it'd be harder to get a disguise and new name. But it doesn't sound like he was being watched after exile, so I think he could have easily changed his looks and name, and joined Lucy and his daughter again.
@@yourlocald.i.c.emember7876 yeah it was implied that she was raped by Judge Turpin, which if you know anything about the elitist rich, isn’t too far off. And especially in the Victorian era.
After pressing false charges on Benjamin Barker, he raped his wife, she went crazy and poisoned herself. And then he took her child and kept her locked in a room, pressing false charges or killing any man who tried to get her. (There-go his threats to that guy who sang about johanna)
I think since poor Lucy was raped by the judge, she didn't wanna live with that. She didn't want to bear his child, yet she held off for a while to mother her own baby before taking her life. I don't think she could get an abortion in that period time or the judge would probably get involved again to prevent her from getting one. I think it's totally possible that Mrs.Lovett had befriended Lucy after her husband's exile, to fake comfort her and not stop the poor woman from taking poison that would kill her. Then Mrs.Lovett could have easily found Lucy's corpse and stolen it in the dead of night to her place. Unless Lucy had drank the poison at Mrs.Lovett's. That's possible too, Mrs.Lovett could have fed her it, putting it in a pie or drink that she served Lucy and there be no reason to move her to her place cause she's already there. But what I don't get is why Mrs.Lovett didn't get of Lucy's corpse after the poor thing died? She had plenty of time to get rid of it. Maybe she worked with the judge to secretly get rid of Lucy's case, like she would take Lucy's corpse away and the judge would adopt Lucy's daughter. Maybe a story was made up that Lucy abandoned her baby daughter so there was no search for Lucy to be taken. Other than for Mr.Todd to find Lucy's corpse in Mrs.Lovett's place as a reveal, is the only reason I see why Lucy's corpse wasn't destroyed soon after Mrs.Lovett took it. If only the crazy woman had burned Lucy's corpse within those 3 years of exile, then maybe possibly, she could have won Todd's heart and get married to him like she wanted. She messed up. If only she was smarter, she got rid of Lucy's corpse, then boom, she'd be alive and still working with Todd if not also married to him. Yet I do admit after Lucy's corpse was discovered, Todd dancing with Mrs.Lovett to get her into position to throw her into the burning oven was pretty epic move on his end. Pretty cool death he did and gotten rid of the evidence all at once. Much clever than Mrs.Lovett was.
I think you missed a point, Lucy didn't die because of the poison she took, it only damaged her brain and turned her into a crazy lady, she was by the end killed by her own husband by mistake, rewatch the movie, she's the same woman who said "do I know you sir?" Before getting her throat cut by him... He got mad at Mrs Lovett for not telling him that his wife was still alive, for he recognized her later after she died and realized that everything that he's done was pointless
As a musician I have such mixed feelings about this show. The music and orchestrations are incredible! I enjoy this aspect of the show. But I find the lyrics, plot and subject matter quite ridiculous and boring. Yet the skill and artistry of the performers, musicians, the famous composer are absolutely the best in the world. Because of that, I feel, this musical gets a free pass.
I watched the scene this song was in.....and...it was horrific. This song convinced me that this movie was a true tragedy. I think what happened to Lucy Barker is one of the most depressing things about this movie.
And the most realistic........
@Andrea Cassidy also his list for vengeance got her wife killed which is quite a tragedy
johnny depp's "no" at the end...woah...i felt the emotion. and the lines at the end...*shivers*......damn he gives me the chills
This is one of the more dreadfull songs of the movie. I mean poor thing was stalked, raped, mocked and laughed at, and thanks to the poison looney, and then kicked out because of lovett and forced to fend for her not so well self. Sweeneys loud 'NO' at the end was honestly hard to hear cause you can just hear the anger, hate and sadness in it as he believes his wife is dead until the very end.
my school did this musical for our school play and I was Mrs.Lovett
Lucky!
What grade your soo lucky
Holy shet Lincoln right?
Same, I was in the pit. Probably the best musical I've played in to this date even if it was 3 or 4 years ago.
Lucky, I'm surprised a school would do this though.
First time I heard this I thought Mrs Lovett could be his wife but he did not recognise her I was wrong
That would have been really cool though.
PunkyGrace true
Same
Oh
Florence Curran that would’ve made the musical so much more interesting
I just realized Alan Rickman's characters never get the girl...
Cassidy St. George his characters are always obsessive jerks tho so..
Cassidy St. George he gets too many girls here
Cassidy St. George Toby almost did 😭
not Lily
not Lucy
No one.
Poor poor Alan Rickman.
@@HubertJasonCumberdale That first one? UGHH....Trust me, when you note that the sick bastard has a Peephole into his 'ward's' room and wishes to marry her, you'll be rooting for the Judge to die horribly and SNARL at the missed opportunity, same as Sweeney Todd.
I love the regretful lilt to her voice at first.
Benjamin barker the barber, sounds like a dickens character.
Luna Aggerholm Haha nope
"Well, Beadle calls on her all polite"
For the longest time I thought it was
"The Beadle calls on her overnight"
Alyvia Bautista lol
I'm Hungarian and first I heard "The Beadle calls on her for a ride". I was like: Wat???
I used to think Turpin was called the 'Beetle' and I was very confused. Now I know they are two separate people.
Beedle
@@trixiebell5479 I know this now, I was just saying I originally thought Turpin was called, 'The Beetle,' and it had confused me
Oh haha
Helena is amazing at singing
I realized something.
Lovett was in the party and she was probably laughing too.
If not, how the hell did she know what happened?
Exactly
I think that Lovett was her friend because later on she said that "she was there and that (his wife) just laid in bed all day" because the poison killed majority of her brain cells. So i'm guessing she took care of her for a while
I don't think that someone would invite Mrs. Lovett to that party. She's a poor woman with an unsuccessfull pie shop and a mask ball is more a "high society" thing, isn't it?
But... I think she was very successful before the crisis.
I realized that, too.
Jamie also played in Harry Potter, short role though, he was young Gellert Grindelwald.
The difference is that most of these actors appeared in the original story BEFORE this film came out.
2017 bitches! ahhhhh this movie is so old
this was the part I realized that Ms Lovett was in love with Todd and did him dirty but Todd shouldn't have jumped to conclusions Ms Lovett never said she died
In some parts she basically admits that she was lying
Yes but if he hadn't Sweeny Todd would not be the same musical
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i thought she said that she had poisoned herself?
Bridget Elizabeth She did but it didn’t kill her
That masquerade ball was a great black pit,
and it was filled with people who were filled with shit.
i have the HUGEST BLOODY CRUSH ON JOHNNY DEPP!
Helena=Bellatrix=Red queen=Mrs. Lovett
Johnny=Gellert=Mad hatter=Sweeney Todd
Alan (rip)=Severus=Blue Caterpillar=Judge Turpin
The guy who played Wormtail is in these too. He plays the bard in sweeny todd
I thought his name was Benjamin Parker o.O
gosh!!! the lines at the end give me chills!!! =)
Never seen that one. I'll check it out. I love practically anything with Alan Rickman in it. :)
i would do anything to re-anact this!!!
Same haha (secretly dances around bedroom singing this talking to imaginary Sweeney€
Katie Gem my high school did Sweeney as a musical
Uhhhh... The ballroom scene as well?
@@pinklasagna7798 yeah! i would do that! i would be the guy who gets drunk and stumbles home early!
i think that Mrs. Lovett is like she's blaming Todd's wife for not accepting the judge's proposal that's why she got r*ped and 'Poor thing' to me sounds like Lovett belittling her or something.
I mean she did probably envy her or something. Ms. Lovett was no saint herself
How did you take out Lucy's screaming?
In the movie soundtrack it's not there
3:04 No!
*No b a k a*
BAAAHHAA
Does anybody know of a good karaoke/instrumental version of this song like it is in this video(not the stage show version with the extra verses) Thanks xx
Dixième chanson préférée 😊
God I love this song
Helena Bonham Carter- Ms. Lovett.
Alan Rickman- Judge Turpin
"Wormtail" actor is Beadle.
****
Gotta love how Tim Burton has 3 Harry Potter actors in the movie
Jamie campbell bowl is in Twilight.
"Wormtail" actor is Timothy Spall. Sorry to be "that guy", but he's wonderful in everything he's in.
Jamie Campbell Bower is in Harry Potter as young Grindelwald and Johnny Depp plays Grindelwald in the fantastic beasts movies
jamie also played in The mortal instruments as Jace Herondale/lightwood/wayland/morgestern
I love this song
have they not got this tune from a nursery rhyme
"...Poor thing! poor thing!..."
"Could that thing ever cared for you like me?"
Maybe Ms. Lovett was evil through and through. She never even saw Lucy as a person! Just a "thing"...
*ADAPTACIÓN ESPAÑOL*
Había un barbero y su esposa
Y el era hermoso
Con la navaja un artista
Pero lo hecharon del lugar
Y era hermoso
Barker era su nombre
Benjamin Barker
Cual fue su crimen
Ingenuidad
Su esposa tonta fue, al igual que él
Hermosa también
Tenía todo el mundo a sus pies
Pobre, pobre
Y enamoro a un juez
Y la quería
Siempre le enviaba regalos
Pero esta no le hacía caso
Y el se sentaba admirando
Pobre
Wrong. Sense and Sensibility; 1995 I believe. He plays Colonel Brandon.
At first I thought she said Benjamin Parker......
He got the girl in Sense and Sensibility.
he did in Sense and Sensibility, I think.
True :P Although they have very... very... subtle caring traits XD
Instead of Benjamin Barker I thought his name was Benjamin Parker lol
He does get the girl as Colonel Brandon :)
Considering she first started taking singing lessons for this role, she's doing remarkable
Never seen it. Maybe I should.
I definately recommend it.mits on netflix
You commented twice ! Sneaky lol
ya know, when u think about it, its all because of these 3 minutes that made todd what he is. and when mrs lovett tells him lucy died from poisoning herself. cause if mrs lovett told him the truth about lucy todd would still try to find her and get johanna back and wouldn’t be so blinded and obsessed with revenge cause he’d still be happy to see his family. and wouldn’t have started wanting to kill everyone. he’d still want revenge on turpin but he wouldn’t be so obsessed with it that it drove him to insanity.
They should, he's awesome ;)
i thought it was..its barker
3:06
"No! No baka"
AH! i see what you did there and i do too ;)
Now we need a Tim Burton version of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde with Johnny Depp Henry Jekyll and Edward Hyde.
2:55, 3:04 no baka
Except in Sensibility.
Sometimes I act like sweeney Todd itz true sometimes I’m really mean
why do they think its haunted? like Benjamin was sent off to prison, lucy is on the steeet and Johanna is Turpin's ward then who would be haunting it? besides isn't it common knowledge what happened to Benjamin, Johanna and Lucy?
Because Lovett told Todd that Lucy poisoned herself in there and died, when in reality she had survived.
@@imtiredofmycontinuedexiste6324 but "people think it's haunted." Would that mean the townspeople were under the impression his wife was dead?
@@mika-chantrancy5424 they all believed her dead. Only Mrs Lovett would know she was in bedlum for a bit.
Other wise someone would have told Sweeney that the wife of the last man to live here was that crazy homeless women hanging aroung
I think it's more to do with the fact that such terrible things happened to the couple who lived there previously, so no one wants to live there after that for fear it's cursed, i.e. haunted
@@Olivia-op7 oh so its a case of just using a similar word. That makes more sense.
poor guy
what did he do to do his wife? o.o
Benjamin was arrested, his wife was raped by Judge Turpin.
It's Parker?
Barker
Honestly Mr.Parker/Todd could have returned earlier I think. It didn't sound at all like he was being watched after the accused crime that the judge got him exiled for. All he had to do was change his appearance, change his name and come back into the city. Yet I guess if that did happen, the judge would be suspicious over the "new" man in Lucy's life after Mr.Todd had explained to his wife that it is him, he just did a visual and name change to get back into the city to be with her. And judge might have remembered what Mr.Parker's voice sounded like, so he'd get startled if he over passed the disguised Mr.Parker when it hasn't been three years apart. In 3 years, I'm positive the judge forgotten what the man looked and sounded like, so it was easy for Mr.Todd to return.
It's just sad it had to be a tragedy is all I'm saying. If Mr.Parker was being monitored by the judge's men while in exile, I guess it'd be harder to get a disguise and new name. But it doesn't sound like he was being watched after exile, so I think he could have easily changed his looks and name, and joined Lucy and his daughter again.
I think Turpin didn't exile him, he sent Benjamin to jail for 15 years
@@yffyfyfug Okay thanks. It really wasn’t made clear.
What really happend to her?
Do you mean at the ball? Or after that?
@@panickingpagan4264 At the ball, was she raped or something?
@@yourlocald.i.c.emember7876 yeah it was implied that she was raped by Judge Turpin, which if you know anything about the elitist rich, isn’t too far off. And especially in the Victorian era.
wait what did the judge do to his wife?
he raped her
No, his wife poisoned herself and then he Turpin took the child
Bri B the judge raped her and then she attempted to poison herself and the judge took her child
After pressing false charges on Benjamin Barker, he raped his wife, she went crazy and poisoned herself. And then he took her child and kept her locked in a room, pressing false charges or killing any man who tried to get her.
(There-go his threats to that guy who sang about johanna)
Bri B when the wife poisons herself she doesn't die she is the homeless woman walking around
I think since poor Lucy was raped by the judge, she didn't wanna live with that. She didn't want to bear his child, yet she held off for a while to mother her own baby before taking her life. I don't think she could get an abortion in that period time or the judge would probably get involved again to prevent her from getting one. I think it's totally possible that Mrs.Lovett had befriended Lucy after her husband's exile, to fake comfort her and not stop the poor woman from taking poison that would kill her. Then Mrs.Lovett could have easily found Lucy's corpse and stolen it in the dead of night to her place. Unless Lucy had drank the poison at Mrs.Lovett's. That's possible too, Mrs.Lovett could have fed her it, putting it in a pie or drink that she served Lucy and there be no reason to move her to her place cause she's already there.
But what I don't get is why Mrs.Lovett didn't get of Lucy's corpse after the poor thing died?
She had plenty of time to get rid of it. Maybe she worked with the judge to secretly get rid of Lucy's case, like she would take Lucy's corpse away and the judge would adopt Lucy's daughter. Maybe a story was made up that Lucy abandoned her baby daughter so there was no search for Lucy to be taken. Other than for Mr.Todd to find Lucy's corpse in Mrs.Lovett's place as a reveal, is the only reason I see why Lucy's corpse wasn't destroyed soon after Mrs.Lovett took it. If only the crazy woman had burned Lucy's corpse within those 3 years of exile, then maybe possibly, she could have won Todd's heart and get married to him like she wanted. She messed up. If only she was smarter, she got rid of Lucy's corpse, then boom, she'd be alive and still working with Todd if not also married to him.
Yet I do admit after Lucy's corpse was discovered, Todd dancing with Mrs.Lovett to get her into position to throw her into the burning oven was pretty epic move on his end. Pretty cool death he did and gotten rid of the evidence all at once. Much clever than Mrs.Lovett was.
I think you missed a point, Lucy didn't die because of the poison she took, it only damaged her brain and turned her into a crazy lady, she was by the end killed by her own husband by mistake, rewatch the movie, she's the same woman who said "do I know you sir?" Before getting her throat cut by him... He got mad at Mrs Lovett for not telling him that his wife was still alive, for he recognized her later after she died and realized that everything that he's done was pointless
@@monkeydwaterace Ohhhhh! I had totally missed that! Thanks for telling me! That makes so much more sense!
O_O me gusta
As a musician I have such mixed feelings about this show. The music and orchestrations are incredible! I enjoy this aspect of the show. But I find the lyrics, plot and subject matter quite ridiculous and boring. Yet the skill and artistry of the performers, musicians, the famous composer are absolutely the best in the world. Because of that, I feel, this musical gets a free pass.
The rhythm is alot like 3 blind mice