very nice video Peter, i hold my X10 (mint condition) in high regard along with my EM1 mkIII & GH5M2, its an awesome little camera for holidays and street, much respect to this beauty.
Actually this is a great camera in good hands. Both for the stills (as you have rightly shown in your video) and street photos with more dynamics - for the latter case manual pre-focus and intuitive capturing gives great results. Also, M mode is handy while EXR mode gives you lovely frames given the pretty unique (especially nowadays) sensor. This camera requires just a bit of more thoughtful operations. Finally, the JPGs out of X10 - are amazing - there is Zero need to do any postprocessing of them. The quality of JPGs itself can be the one and only reason to make images with this camera. Best wishes to all lucky owners of X10 - its a real gem which is unlikely to be made again any time soon.
I agree, it is one of those cameras that can be used as a jpg only camera. The results are nice. Maybe I should rethink and give it yet another chance...
Well said, I believe the review of a quite dated, age wise, Fujifilm body to have been quite unfair. Far better to have chosen from one of the very broad range of current Fujifilm bodies.
I’ve never experienced shutter lag with this camera. Had it since 2012. Lots of other cameras have come and gone since then. The X10 will never go, best all round camera I’ve ever used.
Using the x10 for street photography you have to treat it like a film camera. ISO only at 100-400 400 is pushing it. Set everything to manual. Shot in Raw for projects. Watch out for burnt highlights. Use your eye and mind to see the physical space then make a mental judgement on your settings. The camera is brilliant. This camera is great for anyone wanting to master manual photography and the art of the craft. An upgrade would just be a full frame camera.
Super critical for such an amazing camera. f/2-f/2.8 for those focal lengths are crazy insane, even for today's standards. You need to understand your camera and work WITH it
I liked my X10 and used it a lot, though it's a far from perfect camera. Unfortunately my wife used it in the rain, and it has fungus in the lens. It was a post-"orb" model, so the highlight glow was fixed. The X10 was 12mp in EXR only, for other modes it was a 6 megapixel camera. Some of the filter modes were quite good, for example it had one for copying text, and the lens was good for close ups. My favourite thing about the X10 was the huge depth of field, owing to the small sensor and f11 maximum aperture. Combined with the pop up flash, this meant in focus images from the front element to infinity, if you print small enough not to show diffraction. An X-M1 filled the role, having the same size body and aps-c X-Trans sensor, though with a larger lens.
I have a similar love affair with my small 12mp sensor Olympus Stylus 1. Having a constant f/2.8 aperture all the way from 28mm to 300mm makes it a great travel camera. Small sensor that produces lovely images even today.
I had an X30 and then the X70. The latter is a superb camera, and I used it more than my X100T. It was discontinued almost as soon as it came out, and mine is unfortunately damaged beyond repair.
The X100 series this evolved into is wildly popular, caught myself drooling over the X100V a couple of times. Holding out so see if another XPro comes out though since I already have amazing fuji lenses I'd want to use. Also agree that Fuji colors are great, I actually use the DxO filmpack so that I can use fuji colors even when I'm shooting with the Olympus.
@@ForsgardPeter There is lcd bright mode in menu ( in "power management" you can choose "clear display" parameter) Shure this will change some battery life. Thanks for sharing your huge expirience! Ive learn a lot!
I thought about buying an X10 when it first came out, by the time I had decided it was a good idea Fuji had the X20, so I bought the X20. I think you would enjoy the X20, it does correct all your frustrations with the X10. The exposure info appears in the view finder, There is no shutter lag at all, The auto focus is fantastic for that era of camera. As for the blown highlight issue, I haven't had any problems, though I will say that sometimes fine detail in an image is rendered a little smugged, but then its a 2/3'' sensor and I'm comparing it with my 24 and 36MP FX DSLRs! So, you could consider an X20....though having said that, there are probably better more modern options......I'm still using the X20 as a carry around fun camera, quite happy with it, when I need something more serious I can always carry the more serious kit.
@@ForsgardPeter I think the X20 is a great camera, I love using it. The big issue with the X20 is the 2/3'' sensor, while it was good at the time it just doesn't perform against more modern cameras, and considering the second hand prices of X20's you could pick up something with a MFT or APSC sensor for a similar price.....But.....for the joy of use it really is harf to beat the X10/20.
The problem you have with orbs may be fixed with the firmware update issued by Fuji. I think this affected the earlier models such as yours from 2011. To be honest Peter I sold mine as I found the Olympus OMD EM10 mkii a better camera for street photography. It does produce good filmic colours though. A big downside that you didn’t mention though was its terrible battery life!
A good review. I feel for you not sending in for the new sensor all those years ago to correct the white orb issue. I do think the complaint that the OVF isn't an EVF is a little harsh. That's the tech that was available at the time. The X10 is definitely a camera to use with the monitor and you are right that there are monitor visibility problems on very sunny days, as there was with all cameras of the era. LCDs have come a long way! However with some addtional time with the camera you can learn to frame pretty well with the OVF. Regarding shutter lag I don't find it too bad, and in some ways a little lag is par for the course with a camera of that vintage. For me, I personally think it actually improves the anticipation part of my own photography. Defintely a preset manual focus approach probably works better on this one for street. Obviously you get more misses with a classic camera like the X10, which again is probably par for the course. When I want death star style unerring AI subject tracking I grab one of my Sonys or Canons. But what I don't get on my those is the gorgeous solid metal body of the X10 and the amazing SooC colors and that very specific and characteristic image rendition that the X10 gives me. Thanks again for the review!
I have the fuji x10 and I agree with your opinion ... but I discovered few months ago a youtuber "Tommy Nordpole" that he do beautiful images with x10, specially in B&W. I recomended to see someone of his videos.
I quite like a lot of the old small sensor cameras, I dont have the X10, but I do have the X20 and that one is rather nice. Also the Stylus 1s and the LX7 rates quite high on my "cozy" list as well as the Canon S120 and G15. Not entirely sure about the oly XZ1, though, but then again its the one I have used the least. Am on the look-out for a late Nikon P7XXX s and a Samsung that I dont recall the model number on. 🙂
You criticize the X-10 after having used it for a couple of weeks in over a decade. What can you expect? And you go against the grain. The reviews of the recently re-discovered X-10 are rather positive and even admiring, like Hey, where have you been all my life! I've had the X10 since 2012, when the "orbs" problem, those highlights you point out that you did NOT have repaired, had already been overcome. I never had that problem. The point is, you have to learn how to use your camera. You can't just jump from camera to camera every three weeks, to the flavor of the week every time a new one comes out. When you have a camera, you learn to figure out when to shoot. Its time lag is no worse than many other cameras. And if you can't get over it, use burst, multiple shots. The X-10 gives you a lot of options. And also by using it, you learn to calculate what will appear in your frame using the viewfinder. It's all practice. Your criticism is unfair, insufficient, and unknowledgeable.
It was my honest impression. I did get nice photos with it, but the UI and experience was not that great. I know that learning the camera is crucial. Unfortunately X10 has some things that makes it not so convinient to use. If you have followed my channel you know that I am not one that jumps from camera to camera.
I don’t get it. This is a fantastic camera, incredible images. Plus it has that beautiful 28-112 zoom which makes it perfect for travel. Fugi dropped this lens because they want to sell 3 or4 lenses to do the same job.
If your street-photography style depends on capturing the decisive instant, wouldn't a 5-10 fps drive mode substantially increase your chances? I do this with animals and children.
That is one option. I like to use 1fps and press the shutter when I want to. Using a drive and 5-10fps would not give the results I want. That frame that I want might not be there.
Forced delayed shutter 😬 yeah, it's a killer of the joy 😬 I use my left eye to shoot through evf, so my right hand would cover the view of my right eye anyway 😅 the MP and AF is a bit better on my left eye than the right 😅
Given the age of this camera, and the very, very wide selection of Fuji apasc camera bodies and excellent native and 3rd party lens, I am unclear as to why you reviewed, in quite negative terms ,this particular Fuji body. It's really just the same as reviewing a 10-12 year old OMD body ? I have a great Pen F and good OMD glass, but find that a Fuji S10, that I recently tried, was an excellent, and reasonably priced camera. Of course, there is a really wide variety of Fujifilm bodies to choose from, so not too sure why you chose such an old body ?
The reason is that I have it. I did have some issues with it. Wanted to give my X10 another chance. I know that Fuji has some excellent cameras. You are absolutely right about any 12 year old camera. It will have some issues. This one had some issues like the odd orbs etc. back then.
I hate "Full frame equivalent." I was trying to relate it to my 18-135 lenses for Canon and Fujifilm. Pentax has one too." I ended up with no idea what you mean.
very nice video Peter, i hold my X10 (mint condition) in high regard along with my EM1 mkIII & GH5M2, its an awesome little camera for holidays and street, much respect to this beauty.
Thanks. I am not sure if I am going to use it. There are too many things that makes my photography harder. I agree that it is a nice looking tool.
Actually this is a great camera in good hands. Both for the stills (as you have rightly shown in your video) and street photos with more dynamics - for the latter case manual pre-focus and intuitive capturing gives great results. Also, M mode is handy while EXR mode gives you lovely frames given the pretty unique (especially nowadays) sensor. This camera requires just a bit of more thoughtful operations. Finally, the JPGs out of X10 - are amazing - there is Zero need to do any postprocessing of them. The quality of JPGs itself can be the one and only reason to make images with this camera. Best wishes to all lucky owners of X10 - its a real gem which is unlikely to be made again any time soon.
I agree, it is one of those cameras that can be used as a jpg only camera. The results are nice. Maybe I should rethink and give it yet another chance...
Well said, I believe the review of a quite dated, age wise, Fujifilm body to have been quite unfair.
Far better to have chosen from one of the very broad range of current Fujifilm bodies.
Indeed.
I’ve never experienced shutter lag with this camera. Had it since 2012. Lots of other cameras have come and gone since then. The X10 will never go, best all round camera I’ve ever used.
Maybe I should take X10 for a spin again and test it again.
Using the x10 for street photography you have to treat it like a film camera. ISO only at 100-400 400 is pushing it. Set everything to manual. Shot in Raw for projects. Watch out for burnt highlights. Use your eye and mind to see the physical space then make a mental judgement on your settings. The camera is brilliant. This camera is great for anyone wanting to master manual photography and the art of the craft. An upgrade would just be a full frame camera.
I agree for some part. Many have said that I was a bit too negative about the camera. I will give a new chance this summer.
Super critical for such an amazing camera. f/2-f/2.8 for those focal lengths are crazy insane, even for today's standards. You need to understand your camera and work WITH it
I was and I also was talking how I felt about the camera. It was hard to photograph with it.
Wonderful photographs. Thanks for your explanation of why you took the photographs.
Thank you.
I liked my X10 and used it a lot, though it's a far from perfect camera. Unfortunately my wife used it in the rain, and it has fungus in the lens. It was a post-"orb" model, so the highlight glow was fixed. The X10 was 12mp in EXR only, for other modes it was a 6 megapixel camera. Some of the filter modes were quite good, for example it had one for copying text, and the lens was good for close ups. My favourite thing about the X10 was the huge depth of field, owing to the small sensor and f11 maximum aperture. Combined with the pop up flash, this meant in focus images from the front element to infinity, if you print small enough not to show diffraction.
An X-M1 filled the role, having the same size body and aps-c X-Trans sensor, though with a larger lens.
I have a similar love affair with my small 12mp sensor Olympus Stylus 1. Having a constant f/2.8 aperture all the way from 28mm to 300mm makes it a great travel camera. Small sensor that produces lovely images even today.
I had an X30 and then the X70. The latter is a superb camera, and I used it more than my X100T. It was discontinued almost as soon as it came out, and mine is unfortunately damaged beyond repair.
The X100 series this evolved into is wildly popular, caught myself drooling over the X100V a couple of times. Holding out so see if another XPro comes out though since I already have amazing fuji lenses I'd want to use. Also agree that Fuji colors are great, I actually use the DxO filmpack so that I can use fuji colors even when I'm shooting with the Olympus.
Seems you basically need X30 😆 Nice pics though. I'd suggest setting your X10 to the EXR mode and using primarily the LCD screen for framing.
Thanks for the tip!
@@ForsgardPeter There is lcd bright mode in menu ( in "power management" you can choose "clear display" parameter) Shure this will change some battery life. Thanks for sharing your huge expirience! Ive learn a lot!
I thought about buying an X10 when it first came out, by the time I had decided it was a good idea Fuji had the X20, so I bought the X20. I think you would enjoy the X20, it does correct all your frustrations with the X10. The exposure info appears in the view finder, There is no shutter lag at all, The auto focus is fantastic for that era of camera. As for the blown highlight issue, I haven't had any problems, though I will say that sometimes fine detail in an image is rendered a little smugged, but then its a 2/3'' sensor and I'm comparing it with my 24 and 36MP FX DSLRs! So, you could consider an X20....though having said that, there are probably better more modern options......I'm still using the X20 as a carry around fun camera, quite happy with it, when I need something more serious I can always carry the more serious kit.
I did consider getting a X20 back then, but never git around to it. Maybe I should get a second hand.
@@ForsgardPeter I think the X20 is a great camera, I love using it. The big issue with the X20 is the 2/3'' sensor, while it was good at the time it just doesn't perform against more modern cameras, and considering the second hand prices of X20's you could pick up something with a MFT or APSC sensor for a similar price.....But.....for the joy of use it really is harf to beat the X10/20.
The problem you have with orbs may be fixed with the firmware update issued by Fuji. I think this affected the earlier models such as yours from 2011. To be honest Peter I sold mine as I found the Olympus OMD EM10 mkii a better camera for street photography. It does produce good filmic colours though. A big downside that you didn’t mention though was its terrible battery life!
I just updated the firmware and will try if there are any orbs. I wa in the impression that it was hardware issue that cannot be fixed with firmware.
@@ForsgardPeter Hope this might be of help Peter. Please do let us know if it improves picture taking.
I will test this and see if there is any change.
If you don't want it, Fuji cameras are going for crazy amounts, even these older ones. You could probably make a nice profit by selling it! :)
That is true. Not sure want to sell it.
A good review. I feel for you not sending in for the new sensor all those years ago to correct the white orb issue. I do think the complaint that the OVF isn't an EVF is a little harsh. That's the tech that was available at the time. The X10 is definitely a camera to use with the monitor and you are right that there are monitor visibility problems on very sunny days, as there was with all cameras of the era. LCDs have come a long way! However with some addtional time with the camera you can learn to frame pretty well with the OVF. Regarding shutter lag I don't find it too bad, and in some ways a little lag is par for the course with a camera of that vintage. For me, I personally think it actually improves the anticipation part of my own photography. Defintely a preset manual focus approach probably works better on this one for street. Obviously you get more misses with a classic camera like the X10, which again is probably par for the course. When I want death star style unerring AI subject tracking I grab one of my Sonys or Canons. But what I don't get on my those is the gorgeous solid metal body of the X10 and the amazing SooC colors and that very specific and characteristic image rendition that the X10 gives me. Thanks again for the review!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Love to see you do a review on some of the 360* degree cameras on the market looking to expand what is new and exciting in the photography world.
I have used them, but do not have the latest ones to test.
I have the fuji x10 and I agree with your opinion ... but I discovered few months ago a youtuber "Tommy Nordpole" that he do beautiful images with x10, specially in B&W. I recomended to see someone of his videos.
I will check him out, thanks for the tip.
I quite like a lot of the old small sensor cameras, I dont have the X10, but I do have the X20 and that one is rather nice. Also the Stylus 1s and the LX7 rates quite high on my "cozy" list as well as the Canon S120 and G15. Not entirely sure about the oly XZ1, though, but then again its the one I have used the least. Am on the look-out for a late Nikon P7XXX s and a Samsung that I dont recall the model number on. 🙂
You criticize the X-10 after having used it for a couple of weeks in over a decade. What can you expect? And you go against the grain. The reviews of the recently re-discovered X-10 are rather positive and even admiring, like Hey, where have you been all my life! I've had the X10 since 2012, when the "orbs" problem, those highlights you point out that you did NOT have repaired, had already been overcome. I never had that problem. The point is, you have to learn how to use your camera. You can't just jump from camera to camera every three weeks, to the flavor of the week every time a new one comes out. When you have a camera, you learn to figure out when to shoot. Its time lag is no worse than many other cameras. And if you can't get over it, use burst, multiple shots. The X-10 gives you a lot of options. And also by using it, you learn to calculate what will appear in your frame using the viewfinder. It's all practice. Your criticism is unfair, insufficient, and unknowledgeable.
It was my honest impression. I did get nice photos with it, but the UI and experience was not that great. I know that learning the camera is crucial. Unfortunately X10 has some things that makes it not so convinient to use. If you have followed my channel you know that I am not one that jumps from camera to camera.
I don’t get it. This is a fantastic camera, incredible images. Plus it has that beautiful 28-112 zoom which makes it perfect for travel. Fugi dropped this lens because they want to sell 3 or4 lenses to do the same job.
It is quite good, but it had a few flaws that were too much for me.
Those are nice looking cameras. Mostly metal and made in Japan.
If your street-photography style depends on capturing the decisive instant, wouldn't a 5-10 fps drive mode substantially increase your chances? I do this with animals and children.
That is one option. I like to use 1fps and press the shutter when I want to. Using a drive and 5-10fps would not give the results I want. That frame that I want might not be there.
It depends on one’s philosophy of capturing a moment or moments.
Is that a smart ring?
Yes, it is an Oura. High tech from Finalnd.
Forced delayed shutter 😬 yeah, it's a killer of the joy 😬
I use my left eye to shoot through evf, so my right hand would cover the view of my right eye anyway 😅 the MP and AF is a bit better on my left eye than the right 😅
The LCD has the same problem as Peter, it’s not too bright! 😂
Given the age of this camera, and the very, very wide selection of Fuji apasc camera bodies and excellent native and 3rd party lens, I am unclear as to why you reviewed, in quite negative terms ,this particular Fuji body.
It's really just the same as reviewing a 10-12 year old OMD body ?
I have a great Pen F and good OMD glass, but find that a Fuji S10, that I recently tried, was an excellent, and reasonably priced camera. Of course, there is a really wide variety of Fujifilm bodies to choose from, so not too sure why you chose such an old body ?
The reason is that I have it. I did have some issues with it. Wanted to give my X10 another chance. I know that Fuji has some excellent cameras. You are absolutely right about any 12 year old camera. It will have some issues. This one had some issues like the odd orbs etc. back then.
@@ForsgardPeter I remember the orbs! Did the the firmware fix that…or at least help it? I have a X20, though.
Many of your problems would be solved with the Fuji X30. I have one and often choose it over my full frame gear.
That would be a good camera, but I have enough cameras at the moment.
Don't put it on the shelf! Give it to me!
I hate "Full frame equivalent."
I was trying to relate it to my 18-135 lenses for Canon and Fujifilm. Pentax has one too." I ended up with no idea what you mean.
Does the x10 have a leaf shutter like the x100?
Yes it does.