Game Freak DOESN'T Care About You
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- In this video we discuss the feeling many pokémon fans have, regarding it's developer; Game Freak, being out of touch with their community.
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Chapters
0:00 introduction
1:11 Complaints
1:43 The origins
2:31 rushed games
4:51 Post games
6:18 End Game Syndrome
7:24 Graphics
8:51 Game Freak is out of touch
13:59 Outro
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#pokemon #gaming #gamefreak - Ігри
Honestly, a lot of this video comes off as "sales = better game". It is undeniable that the first Pokemon games were some of the worst entries in terms of balance, bugs, and wonky Pokemon designs. Yet those games were the best selling for a long time. Pokemon was on a downward sales trend from Generations 1-5, and the opposite has been true from 6-9. 7 maybe being an exception because of the Ultra games. Sales does not equal quality. It is purely business accumen and Gamefreak realized around gen 6 that flashy one-off mechanics were a sales goldmine. That plus some better marketing = better sales. It has nothing to do with the quality of the games.
In regards to post games, gold and silver is a mediocre post game and is only really idolized by casuals who love having a second region. But the poor balancing of the regions turns off a lot more of the more passionate fans, the ones who are most likely to stick with the game past the end credits. If you look at Gens 3 and 4. And BW2, they maintained having new areas to explore without ruining the level curve and balance of the games and unlocked new areas to explore that, while not a full second region in scale, often added fairly significantly to the play area of the games. In addition to that, they had fun ways to rematch the gym leaders and Elite 4 + Champion, and the rival with their full power teams in the case of gen 4. And BW2 introduced a tournament to face famous trainers from the history of the entire franchise up to that point with the post game world tournament. All of this is in addition to various different types of battle facilities that came with their own gym-like system of beating Frontier Brains or the such. These provided far more opportunity to explore the mechanics of the games, took more advantage of the different battle formats, and provided ranges of areas to explore, in some games without needing to get a second version or DLC. They greatly rewarded long-term play, whereas, since Gen 6, they mostly just do a battle tower effectively to prep players for online competitive play, and that's about it. Now they do DLC. But is that really as goof as a third version or at release post-game? I'd argue no, since they can't fix issues with the base game like how Platinum basically rewrote the entire story and even reordered the gym leaders to make Sinnoh go from a burnout region to one of the most popular. And they still had post games. Or the sequels that we got with B2W2, creating an all new story and expanded world. DLC won't do that. So the claims of the prior post games being better "not being true" is just plain bullshit. I liked the friend park in gen 6, but there was nowhere near the gameplay of the prior games, that was the first region I spent less than 100 hours in and I only spent more in Sword and Shield cause my wife got into breeding Pokemon and wanted me to play with her, and I decided to do competitive matches to pass the time
8:41 honestly Pokemon doesnt have that either. What unique behaviors are the pokemon showing? They mostly just roam aimlessly or do a few basic animations. The zelda Npcs and monsters actually have unique behaviors, patterns and react to their environment, especially if you factor in all the wildlife
I also wonder why he said this. Whatever Zelda has, it's orders of magnitude more complex than the Pokémon behaviors.
There is alot of problems that could be said about game freak, 1 being that while its player base has "evolved" ironically...pokemon refuses to evolve. It does enough to keep itself relevant but thats it, but also i think due to the companies policies, i wouldn't be surprised if game freak is getting sick to death doing the same thing over and over and over again, which is why they tried to do those other games that sadly failed hard
I'd be sad about GameFreak's other non-Pokemon games failing hard if they were good. They're not. They're soulless cashgrabs whose only purpose for existing is outselling Pokemon. They ranged from mid like Tembo to utter garbage like Giga Wrecker and Little Town Hero. Even their more "popular" non-Pokemon games like Drill Dozer have zero replay value unlike most other games over the years, including Indie games. GameFreak only became relevant because of Pokemon striking gold. If they didn't have Pokemon, they wouldn't have lasted past the 90's. Also, they screwed over Pokemon to promote these forgettable side projects. At this point, fuck GameFreak. They deserve every criticism they get now.
@@christianmckee2116👍
I stopped buying pokemon games a while ago. They don't care so why should I? Plenty of other games out there to enjoy.
Anything after OR & AS
Nowadays, I only buy spinoffs that were outsourced to devs who give a damn.
Sucks that the last good spin-off game to come out was New Snap in 2021. The newest spin-off game was Detective Pikachu Returns, which was in development for 4+ years and STILL ended up as a steaming pile of nothing. The last time that we got good spin-offs on a consistent basis was Gen 6, which is nearing around *10 years ago* at this point. Being a Pokemon fan now feels like you're disrespecting your own integrity with what little quality _and_ quantity Pokemon puts out.
EDIT: Now it's officially been 10 years since the last good Pokemon generation. The only good thing that could happen to Pokemon now is if it goes to a competent game company. Fuck GameFreak.
Based and pmd-pilled
Good moves 👍
downvoted for still claiming it is a switch issue, everyone who has played any other game on the switch knows it's gamefraek who is incompetent. Even with a NASA super calculator they would have 25 FPS on their games
Let’s just stop buying everything from them for a while so they catch up
I think gamefreak cares more with main series then niantic does with pokemon go especially when it comes to rural players
Niantic does use AI art so the bar is kinda on the floor with this one lmao
@@adrianoctavio Nah, the bar fell down passed the basement at this time, it's in subway level, no it's deep down then that tbh
@@bradwhite5884The kola superdeep borehole
The games itself, content, difficulty, postgame, legendary hunts. It used to be way better and harder. Now the game holds your hand all the time, tells you what to do. Barely any trainers. Weak gyms. Joke of elite 4. Champion that should never be a champion. No real post game. Payed dlc that still barely adds anything except mostly old Pokémon returning. No battle towers anymore. Legends are easy to find and to catch. Lazy designs, empty towns The fact that Romhacks / fan games are doing so much better when it’s just made by fans. And all for free says enough..
The games definitely got easier as the series went on, though it's pretty funny that every once in a while there is a monstrous difficulty spike that wrecks people just cruising along. Honestly, despite all the problems, the main reason why is I stopped playing were the pokemon designs. They are just so bad. Just a random assortment of shapes more than anything.
Let's file a Class Action Lawsuit. Maybe then we might get a finished game. Game Freak in not the only company that releases bad game. I'm sick and tried of paying for a broken game. Game Freak needs to refuned our money for a product that is broken on release.
Nah, you're not wrong on the age groups and especially on the Japanese market, as so many of our beloved franchises come from Japan. Look at FF...it's gotten even more mature. The original Japanese green/red version had the old man that teaches you how to catch a Pokemon hangover from drinking and changed to needing his coffee for the West. Having lived in Japan for a few years and able to read enough of it to play the games, it feels like shit gets childish for the west. Which is weird.
Oversight on game freak is that the more Mature gen 1 games came out when we were like 10, and since then they have gotten worse kid-friendly hand holding while the core audience keeps aging. Completely backwards.
I do agree that people understate the difficulties of optimizing games for the switch but also feel gamefreak is far behind other studios for optimization overall most nintendo titles have been able to maintain better performance while pushing for stronger visuals, there are more creatures to account for but only so many are loaded in at a time
12:15 interesting. If this is true, then the pokemon franchise has essentially failed its target consumer (children age 10) if majority of their gamers are adults, which i'm not surprised based on bloggers and youtuber videos. If children have less interest in the franchise then its already set to fail in the future. I guess this explains why they retired Ash from the anime.
Yeah it actually explains a lot, obv no one but them have accurate stats: but it’s hella interesting to think about
Having worked in a few different parts of the world, one thing holds true - you can always learn by observing what the industry best are doing, regardless of your local business cultures and norms
Oh for sure! That’s the amazing part about globalisation
I stopped caring too because since Gen 6 the games have been really bad and only keep getting worse.
Palworld should teach them
I feel like this video is mostly full of strawmen and I honestly don't even know if you're making excuses for Game Freak and defending them, or trying to pointing out they're terrible games but saying they're good business. The narrative is confusing and all over the place, to be honest.
The fact of the matter is, The Pokemon Company rushes these games out every three years for pure greed and profit, Pokemon only still exists for said greed and profit, and no one at Game Freak cares about quality anymore. They quite literally said that in Japan, "It doesn't matter if it's good, it'll sell well anyway." The thing that really upsets me though isn't their greed; it's the fact so many passionate fans could do a better job for cheaper than current Game Freak employees. If Game Freak and The Pokemon Company don't care anymore, at least give the franchise to the people that do. Make a deal to license and sell fan-made Pokemon games, or something. I just hate how good Pokemon could be, but actively choose NOT to do.
Just go back to 2d and give us the full dex bring the battle frontier and world champion on the same game period oh screw the z moves and bring back megas even tho they hurt them like I wanted a canon mega fertaligatr what did Batista say”give me what I want
I wish something else like Pokémon that was actually good would come along
I personally think that pokemon games are as easy or hard you make them. Cause everyone different knowledge of the games or team makeup
It's a company that's terrible to work for if you don't get the artistic roles, that refuses to work with the hardware they've been given, that doesn't communicate with fans or staff, and that consistently makes worse games with less content because they know that they'll make money either way. You're the one that seems a bit out of touch here mydude.
I mean basically is why would we care about these games when you idiots or still buy the games even though nobody talks about inflation and the fact that the games themselves cause closer to $80 which includes DLC so it's not even that cheap so yeah of course the sales are looking better than the original games because the original games then cost that much and we got way more back in the day while we're getting less and paying more. So of course Game freak not going to care because there are a lot of us who will go and still drop a lot of money on the games and as long as inflation keeps going and as long as people buy video games at the at the charge price of 60 70 to $80 of course they're going to make a lot of money of course it's going to be like oh yeah this was the fastest game sold Oh yeah because it costs more that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good game and eventually that's going to hit a ceiling. But these companies don't care about that they just want to make money and that's all they see.
5:25 the ultimite pokemon game would be one where you can explore 3 or more regions
well said 🤗
i buy pokémon for pokémon. if i don’t buy pokemkn how will i get my fill ? it’s not like racing where if i don’t like need for speed i can get forza or the crew. if i want to build a team of 6. carry them through the elite 4 and battle with them online i HAVE to get pokémon. so for that reason i still buy pokémon
Try the older titles and probably get the episodes on VHS or DVD, it’s better especially if it is cheaper than the 80-60$ price tag for the games.
You can always play the older games, or play other Monster collecting games like Nexomon Extinction
@@lubbo5261 i got the older games. still have my ds and all. but those don’t have new pokémon and trainers. i want to experience everything they have to offer
@@PichusBlueberryPiesagreed 💯
Sales dint mean shit. A game selling millions of copies on day want doesn't mean the game is good. It means it eas promoted well or has an established fan ase/market
False
To consumers trying to decide what to buy yes.
To corporations deciding what to make its basically the only factor they care about.
Honestly all I ever wanted in a Pokemon Game was for it to be a Pokemon Game. Since Gen8 it hasn't been that because of Dexit. They decided to cut the main feature of the damn game and gave bold face lies as the reason for it.
Like this isn't even a "I want to use my old level 100 and storm the story" excuse of whatever they gave as one of the reason for it. No personally I always use all new generation pokemon for my playthrough team, but after I should be able to use any team I want. These shouldn't be an issue where I desire to use an Absol, but oops it wasn't chosen so now I need to go back to and older version of the game no one is playing and hope maybe there is one person like me who got snubbed with a Pokemon they wanted to use.
Hell, I get the marketing and when Dexit first happened I defended it because I like a fool thought "They just want to use the return Pokemon to build hype for the DLC sales" and I'm cool with that really I am... but in the final state a version I should be able to use every pokemon, and there is a damn reason anyone on the earth can give me as to why the shouldn't be the case.
VGC? Well not only should the game not be made around 1% (probably lower) of the player base... they also have ban list that they already used and could further use if they like.
The poor developers don't have time: Bullshit it has already been proven several times over that they reuse rigs and animations. The only new thing for all of the switch is the textures for Scarlet and Violet.
Just give me my damn Pokemon and let me play the game you expect me to pay 180 USD for each generation (Also why the newer gens games are the highest selling. We grew up, we have money, and we by both version).
Note: This is only in regards to the mainline games. The spin offs get a pass because they aren't supposed to be the main game you are playing. Thus things like Legends Arceus, Snap, Rangersm Rescue Dungeon, etc are great within the need for all the Pokemon to be in it.
Except legends arceus and let’s go are mainline games not spin off games. The Pokémon company and gamefreak have said that already.
@@nightwing2032 They can say whatever they like, but both you know exactly what I was talking about. This is really only a response to dismiss and not engage with my argument.
@@jamaldavis2480 well since game freak made the game, I’m pretty sure they can said what is a mainline game or not. Doesn’t matter whatever theory someone has. If they say something is a mainline game then it is a mainline game. Game freak and the Pokémon Company have already said that legends Arceus and let’s go are mainline games not spin off games. They were never spin off games. New Pokémon snap, the ranger games, mystery dungeon, and others like them for example are spin off games.
@@nightwing2032 Once again. Like I said we both know exactly what I was talking about. You have addressed as much. So you comprehend it. Yet you refuse to engage with my argument and continue to attempt to deflect for whatever reason. IF you didn't want to have a discussion why reply to my comment at all. Just remain silent if you aren't going to actually address the argument made in my post.
@@jamaldavis2480glad you see the light, there's no need to support a company that actively refuse to listen fans. They already dug their own grave by bad decisions after bad decision. It's just a matter of time before these things will bite their asses back in the future.
And this is why Iam not buying the next Pokémon games anymore until game freak puts out a Pokémon that’s not a remake game freak needs to evolve the Pokémon games 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯no more wasting money on Pokémon games until they start caring about what the fans want in a Pokémon game 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
stop buying pokemon games after gen 7. Frankley, the only games that interest me are Zelda games.
They care about PALWORLD.
no they don't. Pokemon stans care about it being more successful
Everything except the majority of pkkemon fans being adults was 100% correct and the pokemon community NEEDS to see this . I'mma subscribe .
Kinda early
S&V trash games. Get a modded 3ds
dont know if I have an issue with a pokemon game ill play a romhack version lol
Pocket Monsters is bigger than Christianity.
Sales don't mean shit. The people buying the game are the parents, not the 10 year old children. They don't care if it's good, they know its Pokemon and that's a SFW title for little Timmy. Now the demographics are changing, but the people buying are people who actually LIKE Pokemon and that's why Pokemon competitors don't do well, even if they're better.
But if you DO want to use sales, Pokemon is the ONLY main Nintendo franchise whose Switch title is *not* in the number 1 spot for all-time sales. That's pitiful.
I actually like glitches cos thery'e fun and useful. 🤷♀
gamefreak does care about us, They gave us sexy pokemon like lopunny, gardevoir, hatterene, braixen, sylveon, tsareena, iron valiant and zoroark
Lmfao i bet your search history is comedy
They gave us all the pokemon watcha mean?
But vaporean is the most funkyable pokemon
Can we start cancelling people who buy the Pokémon games?