ST Deep Space Nine "In The Pale Moonlight" End Monologue

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • One of the best scenes in Star Trek ever. Great stuff.
    "I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But the most damning thing of all... I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would. Garak was right about one thing - a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha Quadrant."

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  • @williamcostigan91
    @williamcostigan91 6 років тому +2361

    "It's easy to be a saint in paradise."

    • @WesStacey
      @WesStacey 4 роки тому +122

      ironically a lesson that the federation learned the HARD way throughout this series. Compare Star Fleet commands reaction to the first mention of the Marquis in TNG and their complete disbelief that ANYONE would give up peace and fight to protect their homes, to Star Fleet command at the end of the Dominion war and you can hardly believe it's the same star fleet, and the truth is that it isn't but if you've watched the episodes in between you see them evolving and growing throughout the series. And nowhere do we see that growth more than in DS9, such a great series.

    • @BlackDiamond2718
      @BlackDiamond2718 4 роки тому +135

      “Their morals, their code. It’s all a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be.”

    • @salilbhatnagar
      @salilbhatnagar 4 роки тому +8

      @@WesStacey Hence the Starfleet in picard

    • @KneelB4Bacon
      @KneelB4Bacon 4 роки тому +97

      I think this episode also proves the point of writers who were complaining about the constraints of the "Roddenberry Box." There's nothing wrong with setting the show in a utopian future, where humanity has finally gotten its sh*t together. But conflict has to come from somewhere, or the show is going to be dull and uninteresting. I think it's possible to show serious conflict while still respecting the show's ideals.
      JJ Trek is the exact opposite of Star Trek. In their shows, conflict comes from EVERYWHERE, including from problems that were supposed to be settled centuries ago (racism, drug addiction, homelessness, etc). JJ Trek is a big, dumb action series written by dude-bros, instead of by science fiction writers.

    • @Lightsoul1987
      @Lightsoul1987 4 роки тому +7

      @@KneelB4Bacon Amen....

  • @DrewSavo
    @DrewSavo 3 роки тому +2106

    “You may have just saved the _entire_ quadrant, and all it cost was the life of one Romulan Senator, one criminal.........and the self respect of one Starfleet officer. I don’t know about you, but I would call that a bargain.”
    Without doubt the greatest episode of the entire DS9 run.

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 2 роки тому +104

      Sad thing is - Garak was right.

    • @talos2384
      @talos2384 2 роки тому +38

      Quark would approve.

    • @MarkusWCW2K19UniverseVideos
      @MarkusWCW2K19UniverseVideos 2 роки тому +26

      I would call it a bargain as well lol

    • @buckeyecook26
      @buckeyecook26 2 роки тому +45

      Imo the best writing of any trek. So underrated

    • @ionia23
      @ionia23 2 роки тому +50

      In many, many ways, the most powerful of all the Star Trek series has got to be DS9. A little second season slump, but then we get plunged into one heck of a dark place that never lets up.

  • @OscarCastillo1
    @OscarCastillo1 7 років тому +1044

    The cut to black after he asked the computer to erase his log is as dramatic now as it was when I first saw it. Well done by the director and editors.

    • @grendelum
      @grendelum 5 років тому +21

      Seriously, it has the same impact from when I watched it live all those years ago... so frelling good !!

    • @vahi37
      @vahi37 5 років тому +8

      @@grendelum "so frelling good !!"
      Farscape!!

    • @grendelum
      @grendelum 5 років тому +6

      @vahi37 - better believe that dren... best curse word replacements ever. Most folk have never heard the words, but they grok your meaning ;-)

    • @DRTY3RD
      @DRTY3RD 4 роки тому +2

      100% yes.

    • @stardolphin2
      @stardolphin2 4 роки тому +17

      Yep. He needed to get it said, even if the computer was the only thing listening.
      But once said, he also understood how dangerous the existence of that recording could be.
      "Okay, I've had my cathartic moment, got it off my chest. Now *wipe it all.* Overwrite every sector ten times."

  • @joeashton2508
    @joeashton2508 10 років тому +2339

    "The most damning thing of all... I can live with it."
    Just my opinion but this was the best episode of all of the T.V. series. There are moments when you step away from your principles and beliefs out of desperation and necessity. Archer murdering three Xindi in cold blood. Kirk violating the neutral zone to get the cloaking device, Ro deserting the Federation for the Maquis. All good examples. But this was way over the line and it made the Federation more likable to me, because it showed the lengths humans will go to in order to achieve their goals.
    It's like Quark said in The Siege of AR-558: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon.

    • @maximjanssens1133
      @maximjanssens1133 9 років тому +41

      kirk sucked, tos is hugely overrated. "violating the neutral zone, oh noes!" happened alot in later series...

    • @joeashton2508
      @joeashton2508 9 років тому +97

      Um... OK but I wasn't comparing one to the other. I was pointing out the other series might have brushed with Star Fleet personnel going further than they should. DS9 showed how far someone would be willing to go.
      In other words, DS9 wasn't afraid to show how great and friendly and nasty and violent humans could be, all at the same time.

    • @kinyutaka
      @kinyutaka 7 років тому +114

      My favorite Quark quote about humans is the "Root Beer" scene.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 7 років тому +84

      Funny thing about that Quark quote was that he said that as a way to mock humanity, but he himself would end up in a situation where he had to kill someone to survive.

    • @chrishubbard64
      @chrishubbard64 6 років тому +93

      This. I was going to refer to the rootbeer scene as well. "Its so bubbly, cloying, and happy." "Just like the federation"" "But you know whats really frightening? If you drink enough of it, you begin to like it." "Its insidious!" "Just like the federation."

  • @Randomperson1234
    @Randomperson1234 2 роки тому +592

    The glass he can't quite drink. The symbolism and the acting. Amazing! This level of writing never returned to the franchise. More than 20 years later, we are still waiting...

    • @TyroniousRex
      @TyroniousRex 2 роки тому +10

      so true

    • @sirmount2636
      @sirmount2636 2 роки тому +19

      Loved how he put it down. Brooks is excellent

    • @birkinsmith88
      @birkinsmith88 2 роки тому +12

      He can't quite live with it, but he'll learn

    • @HawkGTboy
      @HawkGTboy 2 роки тому +7

      @@birkinsmith88 Live long enough and you’ll find yourself saying “I *can* live with it” at least once.

    • @Spike20101000
      @Spike20101000 2 роки тому +4

      Strange new worlds is good. But discovery? Never really has any character development or stakes.

  • @RepublicAgent
    @RepublicAgent 8 років тому +560

    "So then I went back to my office... and there... was a new casualty list waiting for me. People are dying out there every day! Entire worlds are struggling for their freedom and here _I am_, still worrying about the finer points of morality. No, I...I had to keep my eye on the ball! Winning the war, stopping the bloodshed---those were the priorities!"
    Like... Wow...

    • @jaydee1024
      @jaydee1024 4 роки тому +36

      That line is more of the heart and soul of this episode than the clip was

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg Рік тому +15

      @@jaydee1024 💯
      _THAT_ was a command decision. This scene is just aftermath.

    • @Sizdothyx
      @Sizdothyx 6 місяців тому +9

      "Principles are dreams that come easily to those with a roof over their heads and a pillow underneath their heads, but what do dreams mean to those who can't even afford to sleep?"

    • @AtlasBlizzard
      @AtlasBlizzard 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@SizdothyxDamn, that's a good quote.

  • @chriswalker83cw
    @chriswalker83cw 9 місяців тому +25

    THE best monologue in the whole franchise

  • @joshuaweston4489
    @joshuaweston4489 4 роки тому +238

    I love how the entire recording segments throughout the entire episode is just erased at the end. They existed solely for the purpose of Sisko dealing with his choices and actions. Such an amazing episode!

    • @jamesdavis1201
      @jamesdavis1201 3 роки тому +3

      WELL SAID!!!

    • @williamcostigan91
      @williamcostigan91 2 роки тому +4

      This wasn't Sisko's personal log, this was his confession, a confession that no one can ever hear, but he needed to say it anyway.

    • @deker0954
      @deker0954 Рік тому +2

      Garak got onto a guarded Romulan ship. Think he can't hide a recording device in Sisko's quarters? Insurance against betrayal.

  • @gaoutlaw
    @gaoutlaw 10 років тому +686

    The best ep of Deep Space Nine. This is exactly why DS9 is beloved by so many. It dared to show us that the 24th century isn't all sunshine and happiness, and that there is a dark side to all things. I think its also why so many like Sisko, because he was more willing to break rules to accomplish a greater good, because he knew they were necessary. You'd never find Kirk or Picard make such bold statements as he does in this episode.

    • @bullss21
      @bullss21 10 років тому +21

      Kirk and Picard both broke the rules willingly.

    • @danialkhan3176
      @danialkhan3176 10 років тому +28

      bullss21 but not to the extent that Sisko did.

    • @slashandbones13
      @slashandbones13 10 років тому +63

      bullss21
      they did but, the show treated their action as being 100% right. DS9 showed our heroes doing very ambiguous acts and dealing with personal and/or professinal consequences.

    • @VenomStryker
      @VenomStryker 10 років тому +49

      bullss21 Picard never would have allowed himself to become an accessory to murder. I mean, the guy refused the solution that would have ended the Borg threat: Turning Hue into a "bomb" with an unsolveable geometry that cannot be analyzed.

    • @slashandbones13
      @slashandbones13 10 років тому +45

      VenomStryker
      picard wasn't the type of leader they needed to win the dominion war, sisko was.

  • @RXdash78
    @RXdash78 11 років тому +380

    Well said. As a corolloary, this is also why DS9 is the MOST optimistic of all the star treks. The people in early TNG were so superhumanly noble that they were more alien than anything else on the show. DS9 showed that people would still be flawed, would still have demons, but that even these flawed people could make something like the federation....and keep it safe.

    • @dingusdangus1790
      @dingusdangus1790 4 роки тому +34

      Six year later, I just want you to know, you hit the nail on the head.

    • @BlackDiamond2718
      @BlackDiamond2718 4 роки тому +12

      I feel like its towards realistic, but i love this more than anything. Gives me that game of thrones vibe. And to say star trek did it first.

    • @DwarfyDoodad
      @DwarfyDoodad 4 роки тому +30

      Enterprise and it's crew are the idealists. They are the people you want representing your star spanning empire in diplomacy and first contact. But they are not the people you want running it.

    • @juanantoniogragasin1685
      @juanantoniogragasin1685 3 роки тому

      Well said

    • @Heckleburger
      @Heckleburger 3 роки тому +5

      I've said recently with all the new "trek" that DS9 is the best and most realistic of any series. It's not black & white and in fact hardly ever is. It is a murky sea of gray we all must swim through to live. That is life, not the simplistic utopia people believe Star Trek to be.

  • @Firefox13A
    @Firefox13A 10 років тому +555

    I used this clip to open my presentation on military ethics to my students... It truly set the tone for the block of instruction. Know what you are getting yourselves into I concluded the brief following some gray scenarios on right and wrong. There is so much truth to this scene. Hard decisions need to be made, then we learn to live with them. Fantastic scene, amazing series. Thank you for posting this.

    • @davidlyons9992
      @davidlyons9992 9 років тому +52

      That is truly brilliant that you use this episode to teach the troops. I think it's one of the best episodes of ANY series... and I think Siege of AR558 is another good one for the troops, its closing scene is equally powerful.
      Kira: "today's casualty report has just been posted."
      Sisko: "how many?"
      Kira: "including the troops at AR558? 1,730."
      Sisko: "1,730..."
      Kira: "It's a lot of names."
      Sisko: "they're more than just names. We have to remember that."

    • @mezkitsu
      @mezkitsu 9 років тому +17

      +Firefox13A Sisko is an interesting character. My favorite quote of his is actually quite contrasting to this one: "We don't put civilians at risk, or even potentially at risk, to save ourselves. Sometimes that means we lose the battle, and sometimes our lives. But if you can't make that choice then you can't wear that uniform." I come from a deontological culture and I also do not believe that there is ever a justification to harm an innocent life. It does not matter if we lose or die, I would rather die with honor than live without.

    • @VividBoricua
      @VividBoricua 8 років тому +39

      +Mez Kitsu "Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters" - Javik, Mass Effect 3

    • @mezkitsu
      @mezkitsu 8 років тому +11

      Jorge Torres If their answer is no then they are selfish and I do not care for them. An individual who values his life over his honor will do anything to hold onto life, even commit terrible atrocities. But those who hold honor to be of the most value will do anything to uphold it, even giving their own life to do so. Therefore, those ghosts who have died doing what is right would say that honor is a great thing. It is only those ghosts who are selfish who would say otherwise.

    • @VividBoricua
      @VividBoricua 8 років тому +15

      +Mez Kitsu For me, there is no response because ghosts aren't real. But even if they were, fighting honorably lead to a dead civilization (not that the Protheans could've won underhandedly, but winning isn't really the point here). Honor is useless to the dead, and the dead are useless to the living. I'm not saying Honor is bad though, clearly having a good moral compass is a good thing. But as far as war is concerned, knowing when to sacrifice your honor can lead to a better outcome for your side. Divining when such a thing is warranted is the hard part, and preventing yourself from doing it again (for lesser reasons usually) can be even harder.
      Sisko was honorless here, and yeah there were selfish reasons for doing so. But I still would not think Sisko's honorless actions here were because he was being selfish. Being both honorless and mindful of others are not mutually exclusive ideas. Our world is much more complicated than that.

  • @dupaul5429
    @dupaul5429 4 роки тому +348

    I am an Army Veteran the first time I watched this scene, 20 years ago I understood the meaning and sacrifice, Captain Sisko had to make during the war. There is no black and white. We only have many shades of grey.

    • @jaybee2402
      @jaybee2402 3 роки тому +5

      Fuck you for your disservice.

    • @Shamino1
      @Shamino1 3 роки тому +17

      @@jaybee2402 Imagine being so stupid you can't even be a crayon eating marine. That is you.

    • @Archedgar
      @Archedgar 3 роки тому +16

      @@jaybee2402 Dude, you are an embarrassment even by the standards of internet trolls.

    • @jaybee2402
      @jaybee2402 3 роки тому +1

      @@Shamino1 You realize you've handed me ammo, pun intended? 😁

    • @HacksignKT
      @HacksignKT 3 роки тому +14

      I thank you for your service and just ignore that troll. A few other good Captain Sisko eps imo are for the uniform and the the maquis when he finds out his old friend lt cmdr Cal Hudson is one if them. Only thing that sucked about ds9 is that they didn't have a follow up film dealing with the dominion that disappeared when the entered the wormhole. Or even a whole break away faction of the Jem'Hadar. That would wage a second war on the alpha quadrant.

  • @brohan914
    @brohan914 7 років тому +130

    The last "I can live with it?" is so poignant

    • @NameCallingIsWeak
      @NameCallingIsWeak 7 років тому +42

      "... i *CAN* live with it ... " it's like he's almost pleading with himself. May we never find ourselves in such circumstances.

    • @KyleS.1987
      @KyleS.1987 6 років тому +15

      Avery Brooks certainly had a capacity for bombast, but he could also do a lot with very little. The way he expresses growing self-doubt with each repetition is just so, so good.

    • @preacherjohn
      @preacherjohn 4 роки тому +12

      Always seemed like he was trying to convince himself..

    • @Mellowcanuck33
      @Mellowcanuck33 3 роки тому +1

      "....It better be." - Salieri

    • @thomac
      @thomac 3 роки тому +4

      What really gets me is that "so" at 0:30, with a broken voice. It gives me shivers. It just feels so real. He's breaking the 4th wall as an actor but actually we're just listening to his inner monologue as if we were him, as if we were coming to terms with the situation ourselves together with him. This is just a masterpiece of a scene, not just the amazing delivery from Avery Brooks, but also the writing and direction and the rest.

  • @CrazyGraham
    @CrazyGraham 7 років тому +180

    Ds9 never ignored the reality of the big decisions. Must've been loads of military commanders seeing this episode that could relate to what the Sisko is saying.

    • @808INFantry11X
      @808INFantry11X 5 років тому +19

      Yeah for sure I know the decision many of my Commanders made. This is what it boils down too. One of things that make it realistic though is that he doesnt feel good about it sure it was necessary but it wasn't done lightly.

  • @robwalsh9843
    @robwalsh9843 3 роки тому +136

    Discovery and Picard don't get it.
    This is how you do subversive/dark Star Trek right.

    • @thomac
      @thomac 3 роки тому +19

      The rare truly dark moment in an overall positive setting, which is the general tone of star trek, a faith in a better future for humanity. While new trek is just another run of the mill grimdark story for the edgy kids.

    • @FireLordJohn3191
      @FireLordJohn3191 2 роки тому +8

      @@thomac And edgy by inserting f-bombs. 90s trek NEVER had to rely on swears to be fun and exciting.

    • @robwalsh9843
      @robwalsh9843 Рік тому +2

      @@FireLordJohn3191 and stupid gore violence, and cyberpunk bars, oh well. Discovery was canceled!

  • @Dracobyte
    @Dracobyte 7 років тому +57

    In the Grim Darkness of the Star Trek Universe, there is Captain Sisko.

  • @AjesN7
    @AjesN7 8 років тому +267

    best speech from the whole star trek franchise

    • @brch2
      @brch2 8 років тому +36

      One of the best monologues of all time.

    • @terryrodbourn2793
      @terryrodbourn2793 5 років тому +1

      Ajes Yes it was a better screen than in many movies scenes!

    • @42ZaphodB42
      @42ZaphodB42 4 роки тому

      @@terryrodbourn2793 Ah, Picards speech in the observation lounge in First Contact was great aswell.

    • @francishunt562
      @francishunt562 3 роки тому +1

      Not forgetting when Sisko confronts Garak, only to be told some harsh home truths.... 'and the self respect of one Star Fleet Officer. I don't know about you but I'd call that a bargain'.

    • @TheJoeSwanon
      @TheJoeSwanon 3 роки тому

      @@42ZaphodB42 it really was but it was out of character for John Luke Pikard
      This fits His character

  • @malak900
    @malak900 3 роки тому +9

    This is a masterclass in acting. Brooks doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. It’s quite Shakespearean in his delivery. I love the little details like how he never touches his drink to show how his decisions aren’t affected by substances

    • @celticbelle4004
      @celticbelle4004 3 місяці тому

      I saw him perform Othello in Washington, DC, in 1991 or 1992. Andre Braugher played Iago - the first time a Black actor portrayed that character. Brooks portrayed Othello so intensely, you felt what the character was feeling. Both Brooks and Braugher were outstanding!

  • @catehowell735
    @catehowell735 3 роки тому +44

    This guy is absolutely Shakespearen. His voice, his energy, everything. ❤ he brings EVERYTHING to this role.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 2 роки тому +3

      That's why I call it Sisko's soliloquy.

    • @oaa-ff8zj
      @oaa-ff8zj 2 роки тому +5

      He played othello

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin Рік тому +5

      He's a theater-trained actor.

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg Рік тому

      @@LadyAstarionAncunin So is Patrick Steward. Who was raised in England. And was knighted. If anyone gets the title of Shakespearean actor, it should be him.
      ua-cam.com/video/rRoR-x2WOu0/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/8205kJSig4A/v-deo.html

    • @jovanrameau3578
      @jovanrameau3578 Рік тому +1

      I am honored to have worked with Mr. brooks on the classical stage.

  • @smnoy23
    @smnoy23 5 років тому +20

    The realization in his voice when he says "I CAN live with it..." is so good.

  • @mercurysorbit5138
    @mercurysorbit5138 5 років тому +27

    I love how after he says he can live with it he then uses closed gestures such as crossed legs and arms. Such a nice small touch.

  • @LonesomeTraveller
    @LonesomeTraveller 4 роки тому +24

    This little scene has *SO MUCH SUBSTANCE* that even if you watch it over and over again, it'll keep giving you goosebumps.

  • @Jchmcom
    @Jchmcom 8 місяців тому +4

    When the truth finally comes out and the Romulans realize that Captain Benjamin Sisko may just have a little Romulan in his blood.

  • @dswynne
    @dswynne 8 років тому +41

    I listen to this monologue whenever I am in a moral or ethical impasse. Brilliant stuff.

    • @que4069atl
      @que4069atl 8 років тому +4

      Me too Bro...Sometime we got to make the hard decisions. Decisions that paint us dark. But, if that is what it takes to win in the end...then so be it!

  • @subman23
    @subman23 3 роки тому +8

    "Computer. Erase that entire personal log." Low-key possibly the most powerful (the most telling, certainly) line in the entire series

  • @Evil0tto
    @Evil0tto 8 років тому +190

    This is why the answer to the old "Kirk or Picard" question is... SISKO.

    • @quantuman100
      @quantuman100 8 років тому +4

      it's actually "picard or sisko"

    • @que4069atl
      @que4069atl 8 років тому +10

      Agreed! This is why Sisko is the best Captain. He was willing to walk in the darkness to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And sometimes that means that morals have to be set aside.

    • @makara4615
      @makara4615 7 років тому +1

      Eric Knight
      Isn't that the exact same reasoning Sections 31 uses?
      No matter if you agree with the idea of getting your hands dirty for others to keep theirs clean or not, this episode perfectly showcases how and why a person would do so. It makes the act relatable, understandable.

    • @MajinBadat
      @MajinBadat 7 років тому +1

      It also portrayed how things can quickly spiral out of control step by step but seeming as if they aren't.

    • @digitool5944
      @digitool5944 7 років тому +5

      yes, it is also why both the whole of DS9 and section 31 do fit in the Roddenberry vision, it shows the humans struggling to survive the harsh space through diplomacy and if needed war, the struggle to keep paradise clean was very needed after Roddenberry got a little delusional late in his life
      I do hate the people who adhere only to the Roddenberry ideal, there was a reason the quality of all series except TOS and TAS went up after he got kicked upstairs, he was a bit of an idiot, there is a reason why Rick Berman is the least liked showrunner, he adhered to the Roddenberry ideals and his works suffered because of it, every time Roddenberry was not involved but actually good writers were the characters gained a lot of depth and shades of grey, but they were always within the safety of paradise, even after Wolf 359, except the survivors of that fight, sure paradise got more distant but most pretended it was still there

  • @StryderK
    @StryderK 4 роки тому +18

    It's always been, explore the unknown: Kirk. Settle the known space and keeping it together, Picard. Survive a trip where you are stuck long ways from home: Janeway. But if you are dealing with the Wild Wild West and have to carry out a war: Always will be Sisko!

  • @Leisurelee53
    @Leisurelee53 6 років тому +3

    Repetition done right.
    "I think I can live with it." - flirting with the idea while not committing
    "because I can live with it" - flat statement of resignation mixed with resolve.
    "I CAN live with it." - reflection and surprise that crossing such a line was not as difficult or frustrating as he thought/was told/hoped it would be.
    I sometimes monologue just to give thoughts voice, I like to think this was a little peek into the captain's coping strategy. All in all a very dark but very human scene. Need to rewatch this run.

  • @xxxCrackerJack501xxx
    @xxxCrackerJack501xxx 5 років тому +315

    I *really* regret hating this show and not giving it a chance for years, it's now one of my favorite shows and in my opinion the best Trek series in the entire franchise

    • @jamesdavis1201
      @jamesdavis1201 3 роки тому +20

      It takes a real person to admit that. You sir are to be applauded. Warp speed!!

    • @Hlbkomer
      @Hlbkomer 3 роки тому +7

      You found it in the end it’s all good man!

    • @TheWinterShadow
      @TheWinterShadow 2 роки тому +3

      Truth is truth

    • @RitzyBusiness
      @RitzyBusiness 2 роки тому +9

      I never really liked star trek, I had sampled it multiple times and it never stuck.
      Then I started seeing ds9 around mid June, and this legit is one of my favorite Sci fi shows in a long time.
      The star trek mythos mean nothing to me, so this one stands on its own as just good.

    • @xxxCrackerJack501xxx
      @xxxCrackerJack501xxx 2 роки тому +4

      @@RitzyBusiness You picked the best to start with, honestly a lot of the "Trek Mythos" is wildly inconsistent (and outright abandoned/warped in the modern shows) and some series like Voyager bounce around in quality episode to episode, DS9 was by far the most serialized and fairly consistent in it's tone/lore throughout, if you decide to give some other Trek shows a chance I'd recommend just watching like highlights and top episodes. There's practically no reason to force yourself through the first 2 seasons of TNG for example when you can just watch "Inner Light" and "Darmok" that shine on their own, some great TNG episodes that feel like they're DS9 episodes are "Chain of Command" part 1 and 2 and "The High Ground"

  • @ItsFrank406
    @ItsFrank406 5 років тому +14

    I'm watching all of DS9 for the first time and just finished this episode, I came here to see everyone's opinion on this and I'm not disappointed. Picard was my favorite for a long time but I think Sisko has dethroned him, a Captain willing to do what's necessary for the greater good, that's something you don't see often in Star Trek.

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 2 роки тому +2

      Picard was my favorite peacetime Captain. Sisko is the Captain I want to win a war.

  • @jaiclary8423
    @jaiclary8423 Рік тому +3

    Everything about this episode just rips out my internal organs, juggles them around for awhile, shoves them back in my body, and says "There you go." It's a feeling much like listening to Nothing Else Matters or Fade To Black when I'm feeling down - It's a moment where art becomes art, where the message is no longer coming from a high place, but coming from the bottom of the barrel, and assuring you that you're not alone.
    The writers of this episode achieved something that has only happened a few times in television history. And I also just appreciate, so so much, that the franchise stuck with this moment. This moment won the war.
    And I can live with that.

  • @QuintMarvel
    @QuintMarvel 16 років тому +4

    I loved this episode. Even if I only got to see it once. You watch it once and it sticks with you.
    DS9 is my personal favorite Trek series.

  • @colinwhite6719
    @colinwhite6719 3 роки тому +2

    Brilliant episode.

  • @jacobopstad5483
    @jacobopstad5483 9 місяців тому +2

    I love everything about this monologue!
    It fits so perfectly with the Sisko character. His motivations are altruistic and justifiable and practical. So very human!
    And deleting the log entry at the end really accentuates how committed he is to making it all worth the sacrifice.

  • @andrewlevin6331
    @andrewlevin6331 Рік тому +2

    I’m reminded of something a wise Sith Lord once said “to believe in an ideal, is to be willing to betray it.”

  • @jessejauregui
    @jessejauregui 7 років тому +16

    Best performance of Avery Brooks by far

  • @fhr331
    @fhr331 9 років тому +5

    One of the best sci-fi TV episodes ever; not just in the Star Trek universe

  • @TawaniAnyangwe
    @TawaniAnyangwe 9 років тому +19

    One of my (if not the) best episodes.

    • @ColonelBragg
      @ColonelBragg 9 років тому +6

      ***** Either this one or Duet its a tough call.

    • @eviljesus84
      @eviljesus84 9 років тому +4

      +Emperor Angelos I'm gonna have to go with "Duet" for the whole Darhe'el/Marritza vs Nerys dynamic. Those two villainous monologues are superb: "What will you do now Major? Behold my medicine." and "What you call genocide, I call a days work".
      That, and the ending was quite masterful: "He's Cardassian, that's reason enough." "No, it isn't!". Solid character development there for the Major.
      As for other good episodes, "The Visitor" never fails to evoke some heavy feels.

    • @andrewxu3602
      @andrewxu3602 3 роки тому

      @@ColonelBragg And to think that they were both bottle episodes...

  • @Furzkampfbomber
    @Furzkampfbomber 4 роки тому +7

    Meanwhile in Discovery: _"Lol, we've killed them with fire, it was fun to hear them scream, now let's find something else to kill."_

    • @SagaciousNihilist
      @SagaciousNihilist 3 місяці тому

      What is Discovery? There hasnt been a proper star trek show since Enterprise. You must be referring to the nihilistic low grade woke slop calling itself Trek now, Star Trek is dead, so is Star Wars. The radleft and the jews at BlackRock are running every popular IP into the ground and leaving it a soulless husk of what it once was and turning whats left into skinsuits for modern propaganda.

  • @TheBoomhahaha
    @TheBoomhahaha Рік тому +4

    So theatrical; Beautiful in a way. Mr Brooks knocked it out of the park. It's like you're in the room with him, while he's on stage doing some whole shaksperian deal. How lucky we got with him playing Sisko.

  • @CeartGoLeor86
    @CeartGoLeor86 4 роки тому +10

    This scene still gives me tingles listening to it. Avery Brooks Shakespearean soliloquy is magnificent. A perfect cap to what I think was the best episode in all of Trek. Garak is my overall favourite character but damn Avery Brooks did a great job with Sisko.

    • @ceralor
      @ceralor 2 роки тому +1

      He was, prior to the show, professionally a Shakespearean-trained actor. It shows very clearly early on, but throughout, when the dramatic is needed it shines beautifully, even if it's not entirely natural in setting, it sets the right tone.

  • @ELCHUCKO666
    @ELCHUCKO666 Рік тому +1

    This is the best writing of any Star Trek episode! So amazing... I still get chills listening to the monologue Siko gives at the end....

  • @Raja1938
    @Raja1938 5 років тому +7

    Such an iconic episode, but have to say it could never have been made while Gene Roddenberry was alive.

    • @Kalenz1234
      @Kalenz1234 3 роки тому +2

      ds9 could never have been made if roddenberry was alive.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 4 місяці тому

      @@Kalenz1234 I believe the idea floated of DS9 around while Gene was still alive and he said okay to it. But the undertones of the story pitch he heard were far, far, different. It was just supposed to be a space station dealing with the problems of another distant, uncivilized, world and not about the utopian Federation being plunged into turmoil itself.

  • @BazilRat
    @BazilRat 2 роки тому +3

    This made Sisko so much more.... real than other Starfleet captains. Not likeable, but more human.
    He's not a paragon like Picard.. He's a flawed, imperfect human human just like the rest of us.
    Because let's be honest. With those stakes, at least half of us would do the same damn thing for the greater good.

  • @jewzor8137
    @jewzor8137 Рік тому +1

    The boldest and most Avant Garde series of all the Star Trek iterations... Thank you Ira Steven Behr you are a genius and master of show running.
    Personally I like Voyager more for other reasons, but DS9 is still the most complete series of all time!

  • @LanTheUltimateForm
    @LanTheUltimateForm 8 років тому +91

    is it bad that i can recite this entire scene?
    gotta thank my dad for moulding me into a trekkie

    • @NameCallingIsWeak
      @NameCallingIsWeak 7 років тому +10

      Bad? No. You nave an invite to the "welcome to the fight" party.

    • @williamcostigan91
      @williamcostigan91 6 років тому +9

      When someone discovers the greatness that is DS9: "THIS IS A HUGE VICTORY FOR THE GOOD GUYS!!!"

    • @bluearcher1559
      @bluearcher1559 6 років тому +1

      same here, Thanks pop!

    • @JacopoFranco
      @JacopoFranco 5 років тому +2

      Qapla'

    • @abbaszaidi8371
      @abbaszaidi8371 5 років тому +3

      Need tips from your Dad. My sons are disappointing me. But there’s still time...

  • @aztn19
    @aztn19 7 років тому +4

    Sisko at his best, while admitting to doing his worst (even if it's only to us the audience) is one of my favorite DS9 moments!

  • @Bu4o1603
    @Bu4o1603 9 місяців тому +1

    I CAN LIVE WITH IT
    Damn, this might be my favorite moment in all of Star Trek.

  • @jessejauregui
    @jessejauregui 7 років тому +3

    The best episode of DS9 by far, it shows humanity at it's best and worst.

  • @Hanfgurkenhasser
    @Hanfgurkenhasser 11 місяців тому

    The little quiver in his voice when he says "So!" at 0:30. The fact he has to stop and regain his composure.
    The fact that he could literally not swallow his own words "I will learn to live with it".
    His raised eyebrow during his second "I *can* live with it". Still unconvinced but determined to calm his guilty conscience. He *will* be able to live with it. Some day. But not today.
    Phenomenal acting from Avery Brooks from start to finish.

  • @darrenskjoelsvold
    @darrenskjoelsvold 9 місяців тому +1

    Sisko was the most nuanced and complex Captain in a Star Trek show. Q knew. "Picard never hit me." And Sisko just says he's not Picard. Brilliant!

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan 7 років тому +6

    Most deepest and realistic episode of the all 5 series. Sisko №1

  • @Arclite02
    @Arclite02 3 роки тому +1

    GodDAMN, that was one hell of an episode... And just think - Garak... Yes, GARAK... Was only ever supposed to have been a one-scene, throwaway character!

  • @Archedgar
    @Archedgar 3 роки тому +3

    Interesting that a lot of comments here are saying that the second "I can live with it." is Sisko discovering a darker side to his character when I've always taken it to mean that he actually CAN'T live with it and he's actually just trying to fool himself but failed in the attempt. Hmm.

  • @josealvarez9517
    @josealvarez9517 11 місяців тому

    I remember when it originally aired I was working late and just gotten home and this was on and it was the most riveting episode of Star Trek I’d ever seen.

  • @glennfrith2804
    @glennfrith2804 7 місяців тому +3

    Greatest monologue ever!

  • @Desencadenar
    @Desencadenar 8 місяців тому +3

    Garak lied to him once more. And Sisko is lying to himself. The price is WAY higher. They just doomed MILLIONS of Romulans to die in the war.
    And that makes the episode even BETTER.
    Sure, we can argue about the Romulans as a whole, benefiting from this in the long run. But no one can tell, what would've happened if this plot hadn't existed.
    The violent clash between the utopian idealism Trek has built, and this episode... Is what makes it so special and so good. Aside from its sheer brilliance, that is.

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 7 років тому +51

    And now people are crying about how "dark" Discovery looks after the Comic-Con trailer.... Guess they forgot about DS9 existing. What a shame, best Star Trek series of all time.

    • @Uthuriel
      @Uthuriel 6 років тому +2

      I think DS9 is hard to get into but if you have... oh boi is it good

    • @jhonshephard921
      @jhonshephard921 5 років тому +2

      I haven't seen Discovery but yes, while DS9 was SUPER dark with stuff like this and the episode with Kiera being targeted rightfully as a war criminal terrorist, the same show was ALSO very positive. Just consider the name of the ship "Defiant" considering the threat they faced, there could not be a better name. Also while DS9 did get into social commentary, it wasn't male-bashing or white-bashing. From what I know of STD, that is all that series has, at least in the first series. Seems like ACTUAL RAPIST Les Moonves was trying to compensate for HIS OWN crimes by blaming all men.

    • @juliusarchibaldiv3880
      @juliusarchibaldiv3880 5 років тому +1

      Dont forget those who cried that the JJ Abrams movies were too "dark," to militaristic, and "abandoned the core statemen of Star Trek." But yet praised DS9.

    • @unintentionallydramatic
      @unintentionallydramatic 5 років тому +9

      STD isn't dark, it's edgy and try hard.

    • @darthsalad6211
      @darthsalad6211 5 років тому +5

      Dark =! morally complex

  • @Madcat221
    @Madcat221 2 місяці тому +1

    It wasn't convincing until he pragmatically realized he recorded a confession and ordered its deletion.

  • @AwfulWaffle8474
    @AwfulWaffle8474 2 роки тому +2

    this is like the last audio recording you find deep with in one of the Vaults of the "Fallout" series except they didn't delete it when they recorded it.

  • @jackkramer9101
    @jackkramer9101 3 роки тому +5

    This is one of the reasons I love DS9 so much. TOS and TNG were morality plays. DS9 was a tragedy; a morality play unafraid to make the wrong choice. Voyager, Enterprise and all subsequent series were to scared to even have morality.

    • @rolandmiller5456
      @rolandmiller5456 3 роки тому

      I would disagree about Voyager if you look that show she crossed a lot of ethical lines in the name of getting her people home.
      The equinox episodes alone proved how far she was willing to go to stop another person indeed a Starfleet officer that had already committed atrocities and how far she was willing to go stop him.

  • @nickg0411
    @nickg0411 2 роки тому +1

    hands down the best episode of ANY of the franchise...

  • @Dreamerx47
    @Dreamerx47 7 років тому +3

    I think i can live with it.
    Becouse i can live with it.
    ...........i CAN live with it.....

  • @BarBea1123
    @BarBea1123 Рік тому

    0:32 the crack in his voice when he says “ So…..” when he’s trying to cover up his upset is just- over 9,000.

  • @SamaritanPrime
    @SamaritanPrime 4 роки тому +2

    This... this is a villain's monologue. Sisko is admitting to some pretty heinous crimes. Deception. Murder. Bribery. Perhaps even assisting in a terrorist act, as the production (and delivery) of the biomimetic gel proves.
    It is GLORIOUS.

    • @cap7367
      @cap7367 2 роки тому

      That’s the entire premise of DS9. Kira was a terrorist. Odo was a collaborator. There are no heroes or villains, just an infinite number of shades of grey.

  • @VinBuenaagua
    @VinBuenaagua 2 місяці тому +2

    "Too late. It's in the Cloud."

  • @pauldavis9387
    @pauldavis9387 4 місяці тому

    This mans acting skills are on a whole other level. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @miconis123
    @miconis123 6 років тому +5

    The Federation still needed men of action like Kirk. Picard showed that you can't solve everything with words. Kirk or Picard? SISKO!

  • @dave929
    @dave929 4 роки тому +1

    “....I think I can live with it.”

  • @antoniojoaocarrico1844
    @antoniojoaocarrico1844 3 роки тому

    Great performance, great writing... Makes you wonder how many of the great battlefield commanders of our century (XX-XXI) have had to wrestle with their conscience for the greater good... (food for thought...)

  • @marcuswalters8093
    @marcuswalters8093 Рік тому

    1:38 It's this line and "There are *four* lights!" That stand as Trek's finest.

  • @xaviervega468
    @xaviervega468 5 років тому +5

    This 2 minute monologue is better than 2 whole seasons of STD.

  • @thirdimpacted
    @thirdimpacted 15 років тому +1

    This episode, and specifically this scene, probably represents everything excellent about this series.

  • @kaitlinhubbertburrell969
    @kaitlinhubbertburrell969 Рік тому +3

    Goosebumps every single time.

  • @whuffer5103
    @whuffer5103 2 місяці тому

    That conclusion gave me the goosebumps when it was aired for the first time

  • @LordyT34
    @LordyT34 4 роки тому +1

    Best episode of DS9 by a long shot

  • @johnnyhellfire6
    @johnnyhellfire6 2 роки тому +1

    One of the best examples of a anti villain. Love it!

  • @Seven35888
    @Seven35888 2 роки тому +1

    just saw this episode for the first time ever and damn….that was masterful. Both Avery Brooks and Andrew Robinson’s performances. Sisko’s admittance that he can live with himself is a testament to what us humans are capable of when pushed to the absolute brink, when we’re faced with “for the greater good” quandaries. it’s why organizations like Section 31 exist and why only certain people are cut out for the job. damn

  • @vfvs11a
    @vfvs11a Місяць тому +4

    This is what happens when you hire a lead with actual acting chops and not someone just to check as many diversity boxes as you can. Sisko vs. Burnham.

  • @usonly101
    @usonly101 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, I wrote that comment 13 years ago? UA-cam is like a time capsule you can access at anytime

  • @txbluesguy
    @txbluesguy 11 днів тому

    This is probably the best ST episode from all of the series.

  • @AdrianMendoza23
    @AdrianMendoza23 7 місяців тому +2

    Just watched it. Great episode.

  • @TheRealFizzbin
    @TheRealFizzbin 2 роки тому

    One of the best DS9 episodes and an excellent 4D-shoot, the direct view into the cam - to the viewer - that makes his performance extra intense

  • @joshd3192
    @joshd3192 2 роки тому +1

    Best written Trek show ever made.

  • @444haluk
    @444haluk Рік тому +1

    The last I can live with it was a masterpiece

  • @TheOnlyGBeast
    @TheOnlyGBeast 10 місяців тому +2

    you know what the funny part is? section 31 is probably nodding their heads in approval and are impressed by all this

  • @ColonelBragg
    @ColonelBragg 7 місяців тому +2

    This is why Sisko is the GOAT captain

  • @mbbell23
    @mbbell23 13 років тому +1

    This is definately one of the best episodes in any ST series!

  • @adammclaughlin845
    @adammclaughlin845 8 місяців тому +1

    This is the episode where Picard would have lost the war, but Sisko took the first step towards winning it.

  • @ForestKicks
    @ForestKicks Рік тому

    One of the best episodes of Star Trek ever, if not THE best

  • @bully056
    @bully056 4 місяці тому +3

    Sometimes, good men have to do evil things for good reasons.
    What’s that saying? “It’s easy to be a Hero for an Ash Pile”?

  • @Synzofhumanity
    @Synzofhumanity 3 роки тому +1

    This right here makes me wonder why he's never been a voice actor in a video game. I would love to hear him do a villain monolog at me

  • @Goodiesfanful
    @Goodiesfanful 2 роки тому

    Quark was proud of Sisko too, for being such a prime example of the Ferengi rule of acquisition “every man has his price” and, I’m sure, “at heart, everyone’s a Ferengi.”

  • @Chester781
    @Chester781 11 років тому +1

    my favourite captain from all of star trek.

  • @mitchelldickinson6454
    @mitchelldickinson6454 Рік тому +3

    Them: Kirk or Picard?
    Me: Sisko

  • @gsxerwhite
    @gsxerwhite Рік тому +1

    Back when characters in Trek were written so well you didn’t care if they were black, white, vulcan, cardassian etc. They were real people going through real shit and adapting in a make believe world. Overall I feel lucky to have lived through this 1987-2005 Trek era.

  • @DadbrosGarage
    @DadbrosGarage Місяць тому

    One of my favorite episodes ever

  • @christopherbelfast
    @christopherbelfast 12 років тому +1

    The darkest episode of Star Trek ever produced. And interestingly, one of the best.

  • @GabrielMajere
    @GabrielMajere 13 років тому

    This is one of the best episodes of the best Trek series.

  • @mikeneil798
    @mikeneil798 2 роки тому +1

    FRIGHTENING!! Captain Sisko has become Michael Corleone and is ok with it. GANGSTA!!