Colleges Are Now Able To Directly Pay Athletes, Surely This Won't Cause Any Issues? | Pat McAfee
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Schools can now directly pay players vs indirectly like everyone was doing before and acting like it wasn't happening.....
A lot of sports programs are gonna get cut.
If there’s no demand they can be the true amateurs. If it’s less fun because they don’t have money or a crowd then so be it.
Yep, money gotta come from somewhere
The big question for the other 27 non-power conferences (the Big East, the West Coast Conference, etc.) is how much of a slice of the pie will they receive? If it comes down to schools cutting some Olympic sports, it will be sad--all because of the TV money that is flooding the schools with lots of cash.
Sorry but a lot of people have been getting a free ride off the backs of college football players. College football players have been risking rheir long term health playing a very physical sport they love but havent received compensation for being the reason all that revenue was generated.
The revenue college football generates belongs to the players, coaching staff and all the folks directly involved in college football operations
That revenue doesnt belomg to the softball team, the ping pong team or the strong independent wamen's teams.
Good, some colleges need to focus on academics
Are colleges now for-profit organizations? If so, should they still enjoy the tax-exempt status?
Their sports programs certainly are. To be fair, all these colleges are for-profit organisations. Only community colleges aren't.
Buddy they’ve been for-profit organizations for decades now, and it’s causing loads of problems.
Since when were colleges npos?
@@benisrood Where are you getting that they are for profit? From what I can find public universities are non profit with federal tax exemptions?
That’s what I’m saying lol. I liked it better when they did it under the table
Big Baby reading about this in jail mad as hell he missed the cut off 😂
This is gonna be a dumpster fire if there isn’t proper parameters set up.
Parameters, not perimeters
And there, not they’re
@@bwfextremeI understand the correction with parameters but the 2nd comment just makes u seem like a dbag 💀
And there won't be
@bwfextreme was just looking out for a friend
Make them pay for their own classes,books, housing and food then. And give the athletic scholarship to the students who actually will take advantage of it.
Go to bed grandpa 😂
My friend was a biology major on full ride and getting paid for research in the summers but I never heard anybody saying she needs to pay outta pocket because she gets paid from the school and our music majors would get paid when they went performing for the school but when it’s the athletes it’s a problem 😂
@user-vs6qe3sq7fit's a pretty fair take. It's not fair to people who have to struggle to pay for college.
@@Markfreeman8 This is a crazy statement life isn’t fair they don’t have to pay for college nobody is forced to go plenty of students have scholarships and grants that cover them it’s not fair for the people that bring in the money to be punished for the struggling students
@@daa_97she gets paid for doing research… your argument really isn’t good
Now they are essentially employees and get paid to work. Do they even still have go go to classes? Like what is difference between thud and pro sports league. Whole thing is bizarre.
Can’t you work on campus as a normal student like in the library or whatever? Of course they are still students
@@ssensei34 in name yeah, but before if you failed classes you got kicked off the team scholarship revoked. Now they are essentially employes, is legal to do that anymore? will scholarships still be a thing as now they are employes? It's like a sports league with some weird addtional IQ test.
@@mysteryhombre81 School rules still apply. Every school needs you to maintain a certain GPA in order to be employed by them. The kids working in the library also lose their job if they fail classes. Schools will likely put more effort into making sure a star athlete has good grades.
@@cmike123 That's so strange, as the main reason they are there is for job, not education. It's like your job required a random non related tests all the time to stay employed. I see so many lawsuits happening when people lose their main income when cut. And the end of college sports as a major power as the leagues will have to eventually just become independent contractors, but be associated with the college. Maybe we will see age limits or something.
@@mysteryhombre81 You are making a huge assumption. Most students are getting the education so they can get a job. Athletes are there for the same reason. Most athletes understand the math behind going pro. They may use athletics to pay for the education, but end up having to use the education. Some of the smarter ones tailor their education to help with athletics.
NCAA already has eligibility requirements. People that either need extra help with studies, or want to wait a bit for a starting spot already have to Red Shirt to not blow a year of eligibility. I dont think there is an age limit, because people past the mid-20s mark generally are not good enough to make a team.
Like they haven't already been paying for the last 20 years. They're just doing it out in the open now
Right, all these rules against college football players making profit on their image/name and then they walk into the NFL draft with huge customized diamond necklaces and grills lol.
Last 120 years.
Nice
@@LeGeNdxRejectbut why doesn’t the biology major on a full ride that got paid doing research by the school in the summer not get the same bitching as the football and basketball players
We understand
Im a huge nfl guy, never was too big into cfb unless it was the playoff or just a massive game. But this just can’t be good right?
Yes, it's terrible that the schools will be forced to share the revenue with the athletes people want to watch.
There are still a ridiculous amount of questions that no one is asking and potential problems that need to be addressed with all of this
I'm glad Pat is so happy about this considering West Virginia will never be a true playoff competitor ever again under this.
These sports need minor leagues. College should not be the step before the NFL or NBA. For players whose career is basketball or football. Send them to the league, or a development league that feeds into the pros. This is going to crush all the smaller programs who do not have multimillion dollars to spend on players.
How else are the universities going to make their billions of dollars
That is what I think is going to happen. Say hello to NFL Junior or NFL Lite. Just let the 40 to 60 powerful football programs break away from the NCAA, and let the other nearly 300 Division One schools continue running the tournaments we all know and enjoy.
So after college you want them to get hit for another 2-3 years to try to make it to the nfl to get hit for 2-5 years that’s stupid
Won’t be too long till college sports are kinda over
Already kinda exists for the NBA but it’s all overseas leagues. The top draft picks in recent years are all international guys.
South Park summed up the NCAA pretty well with the crack baby episode. 👍😂
Ticket prices just doubled. The fans always end up paying for all of this in every way they can be charged. This will further exclude a lot of people that can't afford it.
Reggie Bush can be the President of the College Player’s Union.
With this Arkansas should become a competitor I mean you got Walmart, Jerry Jones, JB Hunt, and Tyson foods like how do they not just go to a top recruit here you want a mil take it
The scuttlebutt I've heard is that the Walton's, (owners of Walmart) are actually funding Missouri, since that's where their founder went to college. But I agree Tyson alone would push Arkansas into a perpetual Top10 school. It's honestly disgusting how much money they have
Hahahahahah, get ready for the biggest circus in the world with every conceivable circus disaster imaginable to take center stage for the next decade!
YEP😂😂
You mean like there is now? Let’s not pretend the current and past systems weren’t corrupt AF
Under this new system there will now only be like 12-15 schools MAX that could ever compete for a national championship. Unbelievable that they are ruining college sports like this, you get free college but these people are too ungrateful. This isn't going to just ruin football either, but every NCAA sport.
Now cut their damn scholarships. This is crazy.
U wnt to cut the tuition of the ppl who buy the books and builds all classrooms and buildings 😂😂😂… you definitely didn’t graduate with that mindset 💀
The scholarships won't go away. The walk-ons will.
@@TheKaoticivory What are you talking about? Getting rid of athletic scholarships means they have to pay their tuition since they are now being paid.
The most sought after students at any U.S. college campus are enticed to attend by scholarships, fellowships, and tuition remission. There’s competition in the market, and tuition is discounted or fully funded. It’s marketplace supply and demand. Why should it be any different for student-athletes? It’s such a strangely bitter and hateful notion.
@@bradenhazle4378 It's a formality, regardless. The athletic department will just cover the cost of tuition when writing the check.
Why not get the input of all the schools that have been paying their athletes for the past 40 + years ? They probably have the structure / template that can help the others.
I remember when college was about education and tradition. Now it's just a semi-pro sports league with really high tuition costs, bogus degrees, forced DEI initiatives, and tv contracts that dictate which colleges get to succeed and which get to fail.
Rip to smaller programs
That dude sounds like Schmidt doing a Favre impersonation
Well tuition is already extremely expensive. This will make it worse
EXACTLY
Tuition has nothing to do with sports costs they have boosters. Universities are businesses with investors that EXPECT regular and consistent returns that's real cause of increased tuition.
@@84unisollmao “tuition has nothing to do with sports” brain dead, absolutely no thought processes going through your head.
Tuition doesn't go into athletic departments. Their financials are completely separate.
Athletic departments have long been separate from the schools at large, don't spread misinformation
I grew up and live big 10 football. I always had Saturdays when Sundays got too much drama filled. Now it's all about Friday nights.
There are some academic departments down south SWEATING🤣 I hope schools don’t cut academic programs to pay players but we know it’s coming
I’m sure they’ll just go to the feds and ask for money to keep them
Athletic departments have long been separate from the schools at large, don't spread misinformation
@@nathanstruble2177 You can’t call it misinformation if I am projecting. Just because that is the status quo now does not mean that institutions like Alabama or Tennessee will not in the future decide to focus more funding towards athletics due to the revenue and take funding from academics. Also if you are stupid enough to think UA-cam comments are information then I can’t help you or anyone who thinks that way.
Just sign the players to contracts
Dude I thought that guy was Ty Schmit personating someone 😂
"If schools are paying players, what happens to the NIL money?" Because athletes being paid by their teams AND completely separate endorsement deals is totally new.
The big thing is now you’re going to have a Ton of them being arrested every year because they won’t pay taxes on it. The IRS isn’t going to miss. It’ll be like 80% of them being arrested.
NIL is technically outside money. Schools and the NCAA lack the legal authority to either cap or eliminate a student athletes ability to earn outside endorsement money.
Probably work just like the NFL in the since athletes have their salaries from the team and outside endorsements 🤷♂️
So now my college tuition becomes a paycheck so another fellow student can get paid to play football? Yeahhh.....bs.
Except those students put there bodies and time on the line to make your college ALOT of money that then goes into nicer facilities for all the other students. Your tuition Is pennies on the dollar to what they bring in.
@@michaelmiller9320that’s not true as the vast majority of college programs don’t net the school any money
Blame the incompetence of your school. They have been ripping you and the players off for decades
Tuition doesn't go into athletic departments.
Your tuition is for your degree. What the school does with the funds is none of your business
If your university take your tuition and spends it on signing athletes your degree is worth as much as your team lmao
any school that violated title ix by letting men compete with women shouldn't get anything.
I have heard some stories of what happens already. There needs to be a curb somewhere because things are already out of hand but there’s a chance for it to get worse.
When can we drop the ‘student’ athlete sham and just let them play as an employee?
College sports will never be the same. The kids deserve the money more than anyone it's just a shame all the schools and other people this will affect. 😢😢
Imagine that, money ruined something.
Now, there will be contracts, lawsuits, and major issues between players and universities. Players will not be able to leave the university when they want, because they will be under contract. This going to get messy. It will eliminate the portal now because it will be handled by agents and lawyers. Wow!!
itll prob be one year contracts id think to start with. Too much risk involved for the team and player to hand out a 4 year deal from day 1.
This is horrible for colleges and student athletes, much like ncaa design and what they’ve tried to do to our country, No Loyalty!
This is just going to further the divide between Big D1 schools vs Small D1 schools unless it’s a flat rate they can get paid.
This is going to be very crazy. 90% of sports and schools lose significant money. For the 10% of schools and sports that actually make money, they will be able to pay players, and all the other schools won’t have a chance to compete. It is what it is… those schools were already dominating the market but Im sitting back and watching the show right now.
11:03 is that McLovin all grown up?
NCAA basketball could benefit the most… there’s not that many jobs for the new draft classes, could stay a few years instead of being a 2nd round pick then to the G league/Europe instantly then done with hoops all together
And that will hurt the kids trying to come up from HS. If players stay longer that means less spots for new guys.
Ncaa just needs ignored and dissolved for crimes aganist people...
Next is the NCAA players association, then the cba
Good, an honest days work deserves an honest days pay.
I was NFL bound until them Sebring Lightning bolt boys took out my knees in the Heartland Championship game of the 7th grade Junior high school round of 64 in 1997. Them good ole days as the running back for them Hardee Junior High Wildcats.
Meanwhile tuition is 30-50k a year at public schools.
Most of all the college players will not make the NFL. they get paid professional money in college, but won't make a NFL roster. Interesting
If athletes are employees:
1) Do they need to take classes?
2) Do they still have a limited number of years or can they be employed for 20 years as a player?
3) Can a school hire a player mid-year from another team?
4) Will players still get free meals and room from the school?
IMO each school has to attribute a % of the money to be distributed to each modality depending on their relevance, and everyone on their given team has to make the same amount. The star quality and pull of specific athletes will become advantageous through other revenue streams. That way there will be certain programs which are more enticing, but not to the point where there will be a humongous disparity between certain schools and they can offer ridiculous sums to certain athletes
I almost feel sorry for kids in high school now.Many parents are almost gonna turn their kids into slaves trying to chase the college bag. Either play basketball or football or you don’t eat in this house 😅
It’s turning into a joke
This will put kids deep in debt if they are not carful. Things could have changed but at least in the 80's if you got a sports scholarship room/board and meals were considered income and taxes needed to be paid. when you left college you could owe 11k in taxes. Most of those kids will not go pro and will immediately owe taxes. Now they will have to pay more so hopefully its like a normal paycheck and taxes are pulled from each instalment.
Universities should pay students who go above and beyond in their classrooms as well. Also does it violate title 9 to pay men’s athletes more than women’s athletes?
As a high school teacher, I can't in good conscience tell any of my students to go to college anymore. It doesn't make sense financially in the least bit, and this is only going to make tuition prices even worse.
The school athletes contribute way more then 90% of the students and teachers at these big time university I’ve never seen fans line up out side the biology lab for a lecture or purchase gear that says Alabama biology club if the tuition prices go up because the players are getting a cut of the revenue seems like they definitely been getting screwed over
@@daa_97 Then you're completely missing the point of college. Make these athletes go form their own farm systems and turn school back into school.
@@Rookie_Mode2023 college is a business acting like it’s anything more is naive and athletes is the biggest money maker for these schools saying turn school back to school when the nice dorms nice and new labs are built on their hard work is hilarious
nil has nothing to do with it, nil is for an individual to use his name likeness to get sponsor deals.
So not only is the American tax payer paying for bailouts on student loans but now we are paying football players? Is that what's going on?
Just like that, Marvin Harrison Junior is getting his doctorate
They were paying them anyway now its just on top of the table
I played QB at UTEP in the 80’s. Do I get $20 bucks?😂😂😂😂
Another reason to raise tuition
Who does this actually benefit? It’s hard to see any logic behind this.
Probably just the top 15 richest schools, no way any medium to small schools can ever truly compete again.
You guys wanted this with nil. Now you got it
Hey, I am not a Lawyer, but I do watch some. Sue your college for Reparations for your time playing for them. Football, Basketball, all sporting activities. This is the new normal for all.
Tuition is going to double
And these kids are supposed to go to class 😂
Now that they are employees, I suppose scholarships go out the window so the third string center who went to play college football to become a doctor can now be fired.
Genuine question here, how does this affect Title 9? Will collages have to pay every athlete or at least split the money evenly between the men’s and women’s teams or will it not come into play?
I feel like this is going to backfire and hurt the team aspect of college athletics.
I'm still waiting for Oregon to just drop all that Nike money and buy a super team.
It's more of the Wild West and I love it this is the start of the NCAA crumbling
What if we did something crazy and took some of this revenue and made higher education more affordable for everyone.
all state schools should be forced to lower tuition to like 5-6k a year and all community colleges and trade schools should be free. Private colleges should be allowed to charge whatever they want
wait wait wait...could I figure a way out to coach a college team, and then "recruit" my 30-50 year old friends who still have NCAA eligibility to play on the team? Get rich quick scheme? Hm.
Well this make the rich get richer. Basically the gap between power 5 and non power 5 will get much more significant
It already is
it's kinda like college football is now the Triple A of football/NFL
Are players signing contracts with the schools? Will they be legally binding themselves to play for the school for 2 or 3 or 4 years?
Of course issues will arise with payment of college players. Issues have always arisen with paying any players - college or professional. That is why there are collective bargaining agreements and strikes in most pro sports. The mlb, the nfl, nba, wnba, pro tennis, etc - have had major problems with pay scales from teams (and sports). making a grip off the backs of players, with little compensation for those players is why we are in the mess we are in. Yes, there will be problems. Over time those problems will be worked out.
They have already been getting paid
I fear with major conference realignment and this new statute that periphery, smaller sports whom don’t produce revenue will be eliminated. Football revenue does support other school sports at almost all D1 programs
So there’s never gonna be another Cinderella story team, underdog runs, nothing. Big schools winning title after title. Yawn.
Why was the ncaa being sued in the first place?
because they made 93 billion dollars without having to pay the people that made it for them.
College football about to be like madden ultimate team
So since they are getting paid do they have to go to class?? They are employess now right????
schools lost the initiative when NIL was allowed and this was the only way the big schools in the NCAA to get it back.
You gotta pay the water boys now. Like in NFL
Can’t wait to see how this affects the relationship between players, fans and the universities.
More pressure on the players for sure on game day.
But congratulations to the players though. Earn yours.
Good, the concept of "An honest days work for an honest days pay" is the most American idea out there. The whole NCAA was aggressively anit-American
This is totally off college football topic, but they keep talking about Bojangles. We’re finally getting one in California and I’m so excited because Bojangles is the best chicken go blueberry biscuits.!!!!!
We will donate to the school now to pay for players. Players can still get their own Nil deal. Nil will be extra for elite athletes and maybe pay players all the same!
Didn’t think they’d speed run to ruining college football
Isn’t this what schools were already doing?
Yes. But now it can be more widespread and open. Schools have always been paying their star players in some form or fashion.. as far back as the 70’s that’s been happening
@@davisjohnson7691 I get there’s always been $, but it was never millions of $, bc there was no way to pay that under the table.
Oh this isn't going to go well at all. Some female field hockey player is going to be suing because she's not getting paid like the star QB on the football team.
Aside from the traditions why are these professional athletes WASTING their time going to class!?
Lmao, so funny. Get Reggie bush on the pod 😂
The accountants are gonna be racking it in for all the cross state income these college kids are gonna have to file taxes for.
No more taking advantage of students. And the billions they generate
And now the best college teams will be the ones who pay the most. Goodbye most midwest sports teams, at least competitively.
@@ryand5725ya don’t try convincing people that think D1 athletes are taken advantage of it’s like taking to a wall
If you wanna know how this plays out go watch anything on the European Super League. Except Americans won’t have the will to actually protest so it will go through
How do these public institutions, charging students tuition and fees, also pay student-athletes?
Rich donors who love football. Schools like Texas, Georgia, etc… they have billionare alumni who LOVE them some football
If they can build $300M practice facilities/stadiums and pay coaches $40M…they can pay players
@@reptonplaya facts. Lotta folks on here pocket watching though, mad they weren’t getting millions in college themselves. You can’t tell me guys like Carson Beck, Cam Ward, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter, Quinn Ewers, etc, don’t deserve millions of dollars from their schools for the value they create. Take Shedeur and Travis away from CU’s dumpster fire squad, they would’ve gone 0-12…let alone 4-8. Cam Ward is the first relevant QB Miami has had since.. god knows when. Carson Beck is the projected 1st overall pick next year. And Ewers is a huge merchandise mover for Texas, and he beat Alabama last year.. if you create value for your team, you should be paid like it. Simple
The schools budget and the athletic departments budgets are separate and have been for decades.
@@davisjohnson7691 nobody pocket watching or hating over here champ. I’m really kinda wondering how it works legally. Are the athletes now staff or faculty? Doesn’t this give the schools way more power over these kids? What does it say about the “not for profit” status of these institutions?
I just think it makes more sense for outside sources to sponsor the kids. That way they can’t be held hostage on campus by the people signing their checks.
So what about if their grades lapse and they're not eligible to play? Do they have to still even go to class?
We dont want NFL-lite
Michael jordan said it the best you give a player money upfront there not gonna work as hard