I'm not saying Nocturne hasn't been power crept, but hum being in B doesn't make sense when you look at the legendaries around him. Hes definitely better than a lot of the A tier champs too. He hits so hard during his Ult and it lasts 35 seconds. His range is unique and he has true damage.
I think so far this has been more in line with my experience with legendaries, i know fastidious has trusk at like S+ and i personally just dont see it, i can put him in similar gear to my other tanks and he just gets balls draped over his face, hes an absolute wet wipe in my eyes from the experiences ive had with him, least used tank, i take olague, baron and brokkir over him every day of the week.
Cerberus is straight up slept on these days.. I agree on him being A, but then again, you have setram in S and I'd rank them similarly. All that people seem to have to say about Cerb is codex and having been good in AoE previously.. But he deserves more than that. I used him to push the damage both in GR2 and in GD1 bottom lane, as well as clearing the lanes in the last epiloque stage, replacing Ardea in the most common strats. Also, he's perfectly viable for Valderon teams in single target arena, replacing Cyrene. As his 1st deployment is so cheap, you can just place him on the map, pull him instantly, and you'll have enough cost to place valdy to tank the mobs right on the first tile.. Rly caught me off guard the first time
Awesome video. Thank you for your hard work in breaking this all down for us. Like someone commented before, I would still put Salazar at least S tier. I can only speak from my own experience, but Salazar is still my top damage dealer in most content, and that is alongside Praetus, Ingrid, and Hattsut, etc...
Didn't watch the whole video just paused at final result, it's satisfying . I think you're right about all of em. Most people say lord Phineas is not that good. But you've placed him at his right place. You're also right about Pelagios. He is really underrated. I don't have khamet for gear dungeon1 but Pelagios carried my team to stg 9. He can clean a wave in a blink
Your tier list makes me think I need to learn how to build/use Kigiri, Magda, and Lucius better. I use Lust and Twyla to great effect and I've never seen Kigiri, Magda or Lucius do as well as those two.
Is this tier list based on them being fully awakened, and skills fully upgraded? I have some God tier lower than some you have in A and B tier. They just aren't doing it like the others... Maybe gear? Idk, I'm curious what I'm missing...
Do you think I should pull for Arrogance this week if I don't have Lust? My Kigiri, Hatssut, Salazar and Lugaru already get the job done for my nightmare comps, so idk if I need him
After a month of playing I thought I was extremely unlucky with summons I can't progress because I didnt get much of good heroes. Finally I managed to get 2 legendaries. I am still fairly new so I searched for this video. My heroes are Crach and Shamir... xddddd
its so much stamina in the dwarven association im in despereate needs of multibattle they should add some in the same shop but for gold not for dimonds, dimons are going any wey on rare sumoning cristals an stamina
Man... They need to stop making Nightmare units, and stop making Fighters. Nightmare Faction doesn't even have a single Legendary Mage. And where are the new tanks? Tanks need to start dealing decent damage (Obviously not Silas-levels) in order to actually use anyone aside from the only viable 4 Northerner tanks; Brokkir, Isolde, Krodor, and Olague. All the others (Except Torodor) suck and aren't worth using. Tanks that turn into monsters with a permanent transformation like A5 Azhor (Yes, you heard me right, Azhor is amazing at A5) is the best way to do it.
Cyrus, Regulus, Constance (not really a tank tbf), Ghan and Reve are all great. Krodor is only used in the tank codex lol IDK why you put him above them. I would like to see some new ones but there is no shortage of good options. And where is Asshor good at A5?
Wow I strongly disagree with Kigiri being S tier. He is at least S+ if not God tier imo. At A3 and A5 he blows Arrogance damage out of the water in GB1 and GB2. Kigiri is a 250-300 mil damage in GB1. Only Hex with his exclusive can out damage Kigiri. Arrogance can’t match that. In GB2 Kigiri can get to 1.5+ bil in damage. No one else can come close to that. Not to mention Kigiri is also a great finisher in ST arena. So if he is S tier then I don’t know who should be in S+ or God tier.
Endgame wise, khamet/boreas/vierna arent S tier. Ajax valk and ymiret are definitely S tier. Lady alex, with her artifact, is definitely god tier. She makes any campaign/void rift stage easy . She also did more damage then my a5 silas on semrah 1 with aracha as lord. Really good in apex arena anti air in an arbiter team.
Hard disagree with volka placement. Her only use is awaken 1 and that's good in two places. Gr2 and gb laurel strats. Not worthy of that rating at all. The rest of the tier list is pretty solid.
I don't think it's fair to say that Gr2 and Gb1 laurel strats are her only places.. There's also Gb2 (most likely needed regardless if she's in apoc 1 or 2), Gd2, Torodor in Vr, like half of the epilogue stages, conqueror, laurel strats in gr1, new amr stages... Even saw tanky volka's hiding behind torodor's in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of gauntlet.. It's just easy to overlook all the places where she has shined, but if we didn't get her for free, people wouldn't be complaining only about Elowyn being needed to make all the content easier, especialy after Volka's buff
I'm not saying Nocturne hasn't been power crept, but hum being in B doesn't make sense when you look at the legendaries around him. Hes definitely better than a lot of the A tier champs too. He hits so hard during his Ult and it lasts 35 seconds. His range is unique and he has true damage.
Thanks this video helped alot.Got 6 legendarys this week and have a concept of a plan on what to do with them now
I think so far this has been more in line with my experience with legendaries, i know fastidious has trusk at like S+ and i personally just dont see it, i can put him in similar gear to my other tanks and he just gets balls draped over his face, hes an absolute wet wipe in my eyes from the experiences ive had with him, least used tank, i take olague, baron and brokkir over him every day of the week.
Finally, the checklist for summoning is back!
Cerberus is straight up slept on these days.. I agree on him being A, but then again, you have setram in S and I'd rank them similarly.
All that people seem to have to say about Cerb is codex and having been good in AoE previously.. But he deserves more than that.
I used him to push the damage both in GR2 and in GD1 bottom lane, as well as clearing the lanes in the last epiloque stage, replacing Ardea in the most common strats.
Also, he's perfectly viable for Valderon teams in single target arena, replacing Cyrene. As his 1st deployment is so cheap, you can just place him on the map, pull him instantly, and you'll have enough cost to place valdy to tank the mobs right on the first tile.. Rly caught me off guard the first time
Awesome video. Thank you for your hard work in breaking this all down for us. Like someone commented before, I would still put Salazar at least S tier. I can only speak from my own experience, but Salazar is still my top damage dealer in most content, and that is alongside Praetus, Ingrid, and Hattsut, etc...
Didn't watch the whole video just paused at final result, it's satisfying . I think you're right about all of em. Most people say lord Phineas is not that good. But you've placed him at his right place. You're also right about Pelagios. He is really underrated. I don't have khamet for gear dungeon1 but Pelagios carried my team to stg 9. He can clean a wave in a blink
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Great list, almost 100% accurate I think. My only doubts: Eunomia, Salazar, Khamet, Volka should be S. Valkyr, Ajax S+. All in all, very nice job!
Great video mate, i dont agree with only one thing in here, my boy Xaris should be a god tier! xD
Could be argued for, hes just in a very contested area as an aoe mage
Your tier list makes me think I need to learn how to build/use Kigiri, Magda, and Lucius better. I use Lust and Twyla to great effect and I've never seen Kigiri, Magda or Lucius do as well as those two.
3:33 aren't debuffs that affect the enemies generally better than buffs (vulnerability vs. damage increase)?
Great effort… was a lot of work. The surprise for me was aeris… top of S tier seems very strong
Is this tier list based on them being fully awakened, and skills fully upgraded?
I have some God tier lower than some you have in A and B tier. They just aren't doing it like the others... Maybe gear? Idk, I'm curious what I'm missing...
You're a nerd and dedicated, congratulations, I envy you, I don't have all that dedication
Sir, what do you think about the guy who summoned 300 ancients and no lord
How’s glacius?
Do you think I should pull for Arrogance this week if I don't have Lust? My Kigiri, Hatssut, Salazar and Lugaru already get the job done for my nightmare comps, so idk if I need him
Yessssss tier lists
Glacius is so underrated it's crazy..
Saladzar belongs in s tier, its even in his name!
A new rena guide is needed with all the new hero
After a month of playing I thought I was extremely unlucky with summons I can't progress because I didnt get much of good heroes. Finally I managed to get 2 legendaries. I am still fairly new so I searched for this video. My heroes are Crach and Shamir... xddddd
Wunderbar ! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Why did you skip over numeria, I believe that is her name, placement and explanation? 43:20 ish
Care to elaborate on the “more internal units” comment lol
53:03 He can't do gd 1.
its so much stamina in the dwarven association im in despereate needs of multibattle they should add some in the same shop but for gold not for dimonds, dimons are going any wey on rare sumoning cristals an stamina
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Durza is feebo's secret trch for 400k in apoc 2 lol
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I agree with u but how is Caly ( Calypso ) worse than Beatrix?! and Nict is amazing ez A tier
Nocturne *
whatsupp guys ronaldo the goat here
No wukong?
Maw should have been higher than Uredin, as he gives Maw the demon soldier) an extra deployment
maw is trash
Is that me or you skiped the Female Iovar?
Kigiri S , kigiri A5 SSSSSSSS
This is so true. I was totally taken back by how low Kirigi was on the tier list.
WTF Ajax in S? Whaaaaaaat???This hero Is beast..For me in God
Venoma god and lord phineas is s tier ? 😅
Not too sure where u see Venoma at God Tier
Man... They need to stop making Nightmare units, and stop making Fighters. Nightmare Faction doesn't even have a single Legendary Mage.
And where are the new tanks? Tanks need to start dealing decent damage (Obviously not Silas-levels) in order to actually use anyone aside from the only viable 4 Northerner tanks; Brokkir, Isolde, Krodor, and Olague. All the others (Except Torodor) suck and aren't worth using.
Tanks that turn into monsters with a permanent transformation like A5 Azhor (Yes, you heard me right, Azhor is amazing at A5) is the best way to do it.
Cyrus, Regulus, Constance (not really a tank tbf), Ghan and Reve are all great. Krodor is only used in the tank codex lol IDK why you put him above them. I would like to see some new ones but there is no shortage of good options.
And where is Asshor good at A5?
Nocturne B??? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Wow I strongly disagree with Kigiri being S tier. He is at least S+ if not God tier imo. At A3 and A5 he blows Arrogance damage out of the water in GB1 and GB2. Kigiri is a 250-300 mil damage in GB1. Only Hex with his exclusive can out damage Kigiri. Arrogance can’t match that. In GB2 Kigiri can get to 1.5+ bil in damage. No one else can come close to that. Not to mention Kigiri is also a great finisher in ST arena. So if he is S tier then I don’t know who should be in S+ or God tier.
Endgame wise, khamet/boreas/vierna arent S tier. Ajax valk and ymiret are definitely S tier.
Lady alex, with her artifact, is definitely god tier. She makes any campaign/void rift stage easy . She also did more damage then my a5 silas on semrah 1 with aracha as lord. Really good in apex arena anti air in an arbiter team.
Boreas is S tier for GvG
@Binzob Yeah that's fair, forgot about him in Cyrus teams
ha ha your tier list sucks.
Volka better like Brokkir? Nocturne B?😅 go to school buddy
Hard disagree with volka placement. Her only use is awaken 1 and that's good in two places. Gr2 and gb laurel strats. Not worthy of that rating at all. The rest of the tier list is pretty solid.
Buddy she’s used in the number 1 gb 2 team lmao
Talk about bad opinion
I don't think it's fair to say that Gr2 and Gb1 laurel strats are her only places.. There's also Gb2 (most likely needed regardless if she's in apoc 1 or 2), Gd2, Torodor in Vr, like half of the epilogue stages, conqueror, laurel strats in gr1, new amr stages... Even saw tanky volka's hiding behind torodor's in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of gauntlet.. It's just easy to overlook all the places where she has shined, but if we didn't get her for free, people wouldn't be complaining only about Elowyn being needed to make all the content easier, especialy after Volka's buff
Gr1, amr, aoe arena, gd2, she is useful pretty much everywhere when you don't have all the top tier characters
@@GeneticallyEngineeredCatgirls You basically just said she isn't top tier lol. I agree, S+ would be fair but god tier? Fuck no.
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