A couple of comments. 1) We must remember, that even if a new feature was introduced in month X, it does not mean that the whole fleet changed over night. First the old parts were used up. Our Finnish Alkett StuGs from May and June 1943 still had the plain pipe fendersupports and the rotating cupola with the plated-over part to the front. So, boys and girls, stop looking at your books, and start looking at your StuGs... Reference pictures rules! 2) Dragon offers a somewhat incorrect rear interlocked plate (shocker!). The edges are not square, but heavily slanted. The build itself is very nice of this kit (that I myself rejected as too inaccurate for out of the box building...) :)
Yes, that is true with the fender supports. Maybe I wasn't clear but I mentioned that you might as well use these new parts in the kit because they're cool. But the older parts G33 can also be used for sure, since most features were introduced "transitionally". And I know what you mean about the rear hull interlocking edges being a little too square in the kit.
@@Panzermeister36 First of all ... Sorry for my bad english. I'm Swiss. I agree with the comments from Andreas Lärka. When ever a change startet in the building factory's it took some time until the complete production was "clean". For examples the strait welded Engine Deck/ interlocked Engine Deck: Alkett : until June 43 / from Mai 43 Miag : until June 43 / from March 43 or in your words, the small accsess hatch ( circular hatch for draining engine coolant): Alkett with hatch until June 43 Alkett pluged an welded until June 43 Alkett with out hatch from March 43 Miag with hatch until July 43 Miag with out hatch from July 43 The same with the small trailer towing pintle: It depends if you are building a StuG from Alkett or Miag. And if Miag, what type of StuG from Miag. Because the Miag StuG's based on the MAN Fgst. had a small towing pintle. But not a pivoting one. So far you are absolutely correct because your build represents a Alkett StuG. Form of Fender Support Brackts : Pressed Steel Fender support brackets = Alkett Tubular reinforced with triangular steel support = Miag And there are many other small details to look on, depending on what factory had build the StuG you want to build ;-) All in all you did a very good review to point out the main points and you sayed nothing wrong. But you simplified things and i think that is absolut OK. Most modellers will build the Kit more or less out of the box and to be honest, every body will see then a StuG III Ausf. G in a early version. And for the most people/modellers this is enough. Because the enjoy the build, painting and weathering process. Excessive rivet counting is only a minority. With that in mind.... happy modelling and i'm looking forward to your next video ;-)
Are you Mr. Zimmermann from the Müller and Zimmermann Sturmgeschütz Vol.1 and 2 books? If so, I am a big fan of those books; they have been very informative for my interest in this vehicle. Thank you for your comment! Yes, my comments are to build an "idealized" version of the vehicle. As you know, hybrids and transitional vehicles are common during the introduction of every new feature, so not all the new details and changes I pointed out with this kit for the May 1943 version are required to make it "historically correct". There is always some wiggle room. Again, thank you for your comments. I have pinned these at the top of the video so others can be informed by you and Mr. Lärka.
When I was building models as a kid (just coming up to 60, to give an idea) you built what was in the box and were happy. Roll on the years and now there is so much more choice, am parts, paints, books and great advice from you Guys that I have started modelling again :) TFS, GB :)
I like how you take accuracy so seriously! I would like another painting and weathering tutorial on this like you did a few years ago, those are very helpful, and I think your skill has improved!
I am already working on painting and weathering this one for a video! I had a few questions recently about how I get reference pictures and how I use them in the build, so this video will look at that topic.
I just finished re-watching your Takom StuG video! I'm building that kit at the moment. I love these video's, they save me a lot of time doing research!
Back to the StuGs! I built that same kit for the StuG Life group build some years ago. As always you did an excellent job Evan, very interesting to see all the specific details and changes.
Very nice and I like this style of video. I've only built 2 Dragon kits but I get frustrated just looking at the corrections you've made to the instructions. Haha
I haven't heard much of Dragon in recent years. When I first started modeling around 8 years ago they were pretty much the biggest name in high detail armor kits. Now I feel like there are a lot more companies that have taken over in that area.
An interesting side note is that unlike Trumpeter and Takom, Dragon does not have its own factory. As a result, Dragon has to stop the production when the contract with one factory ends, and most of the time Dragon is looking for a qualified factory to continue their production (as people found different series of dragon kits have different types of plastic). I think this is partly why Dragon kits are rarer compared to other companies'. Also, Takom's factory also accpets orders from other companies like RFM and Boder as they don't have their own factory.
I absolutely love those after-build reviews with many helpful tips and corrections, much appreciated... Are you planning to do something like this one with newly upcoming Stug from Border Model?
Great review! Do you know any particular reason as to why dragon changed so much over the years. I remember back in the day that dragon was one of the best if not THE best brand for detailed Armour kits, but now they are pretty much outclassed by any brand. Glad that you started uploading frequently.
I'm building there stug 3 ausf B the recent release one that too is very nice it's funny that not 1 sprue has stug 3 ausf B on them lol it's all panzer 4 stug n Brumbar etc on them! So must all be from parts of old kits they managed to make the new 2019 stug ausf B with! I got a load of rare old new stock dragon kit's last week for £40 each absolutely amazing! The sdk 251s 3, 3 in 1 kits with all the extras and figures the Geschutzwagen Grille the bergtiger on the ferdinand Hull to many to mention but one of our old modeler's passed away and his wife held a private auction! It's amazing what's floating around people's attics still! I got 4 Tamiya famos too the tank transporters! Something satisfying about correcting Dragon's kits though eh! Atleast you get alot of the correct parts on other sprues! Its a nice build mate 👍 The same kits in the Syrian 6 day war Box! I used this kit to correct das werks reissued dragon kit they brought out earlier this year!
Only reason I watched this video is because I'm a fan/subscriber of Panzermeister's work. His knowledge of tanks in general is helpful and I appreciate his opinion. Dragon's customer support is one of the worst I have experienced! (Kit # 6365) That was 6 years ago and I have not supported Dragon ever since. Their loss.
Congratulations on another excellent video. I've never made a Stug and I'd really like to put together a 1/35 scale kit. Could you recommend a model/manufacturer? Thanks in advance.
The new kits from Takom Blitz are pretty good. Personally I prefer these Dragon kits, such as 6578 here, or the new Rye Field Model kits but they are more fiddly. It depends on if you are a very experienced modeler or if you just enjoy a straightforward easy project.
The Muller and Zimmermann book "Sturmgeschütz III Volume 2" is the best reference for sure, but it is hard to find nowadays. The Spielberger book "Sturmgeschütz and its Variants" is good but not perfect.
An older type of muzzle brake was standardly used for the Early type, this your added metal gun is for the Mid version. But it is clear that the tanks that lasted longer had various modifications, including "Schurzen".😉
The type of brake I added was introduced in May 1943 which fits the time period. I verified this; there is an original condition May 43 vehicle in my local museum. But the early brake was still used at this time as well.
really informative build review basically every detail covered! why DML added those awful DS tracks... well we do actually know. Anyways something about DML kits I really like is that they are so crisp and look great when built up. awesome work Ewan ! What is the gap behind the mantlet where the gun enters the hull? is that feature of Stug III or simply because it is dry fitted at the moment?
Hi Strugling to find a good picture off the c-clamp holder, have you got any suggestion were i could find it? Building a 1/16 Stug III G from monochrome and nead to modify a little bit to the same config as your model 😊
Hi, what is your opinión about vallejo paints?. If I put a Vallejo primer it is possible apply as coat top tamiya Paint and viceversa?. Saludos from México. By the way one of my favorite Chanel.
Will you show us how you airbrush this? I love watching you airbrush you are wery talented, and I love how you film how you mix youre paint in the airbrush cup. Its so satisfying to see the Tamiya paints get blended with thinner and mixed up. I have learned from you the best thinning ratio, thinn paint sprays perfectly with no overspray. Have you tried the new Tamiya lacquer thinner with retarder in? Its wery good you might get even smoother results than with their basic laqcuer thinner because the paint gets a little longer to self level.
I usually look at books for specific details, though for free you can look at www.andreaslarka.net/ for a breakdown of StuG features over production periods. As for the Das Werk 1/16 kit, I don't think I will be building it as it has a lot of issues and the detail is poor (it is an upscaled version of the 1/35 Takom Blitz kit which already is a bit simple on the details in 1/35th scale). I'll probably go for the 1/16 Trumpeter StuG kit coming out in a couple of months.
Dragon 6365 is basically the same kit but a slightly earlier version. So you will only have the early fender supports G33 (no new parts L4 or whatever), you will not need the C-hooks I talked about (kit S-hooks are fine) and you will have the 50+30mm bolted hull front instead of solid 80mm plate (so you won't have to worry about filling the interlocks). Overall, it builds basically the same vehicle, but without the couple of struggles I pointed out for 6578.
Nice presentation and details! Waiting impatiently for the sequel. By the way, I sent you an email 5 days ago with pictures of my diorama, did you receive them?
Great video as always! What do you think of the STuG/STuH from Das Werk(1/35)? I’m thinking of buying this kit as I cannot find much STuH kits. But I read that the 1/16 STuG from Das Werk has a lot of problems. So their quality is not always up to par.
Well of course Andy praises it, he has a vested interest :) it's a decent kit but I think I will go with the 1/16 Trumpeter StuG instead; it looks much better and more detailed.
Bonsoir Premièrement bravo pour vos maquettes qui sont superbes ainsi que vos vidéos. Je voudrais me procurer certaines peintures à l'huile de chez Wilder qui ne sont pas disponibles en Europe Pourriez vous m'indiquer un site d'achats en ligne Dans l'attente de votre réponse Cordialement
Bonjour, Les produits de Wilder sont fabriqués en Russie, et à cause du covid il y a des problems de production et distribution. J'ai contacté Adam Wilder, mais il n'a plus de contrôle sûr la marque Wilder. Maintenant, je recommand les peintures à l'huile de "502 Abteilung" (distribué par AK Interactive) au lieu de Wilder. Désolé pour mon mauvais Français...
Nice kit but those tracks look bad. The left side rear where there's a big gap doesn't look good at all. Throw those things away and get some rubber bands or afv tracks.
A couple of comments.
1) We must remember, that even if a new feature was introduced in month X, it does not mean that the whole fleet changed over night. First the old parts were used up.
Our Finnish Alkett StuGs from May and June 1943 still had the plain pipe fendersupports and the rotating cupola with the plated-over part to the front.
So, boys and girls, stop looking at your books, and start looking at your StuGs... Reference pictures rules!
2) Dragon offers a somewhat incorrect rear interlocked plate (shocker!). The edges are not square, but heavily slanted.
The build itself is very nice of this kit (that I myself rejected as too inaccurate for out of the box building...) :)
Yes, that is true with the fender supports. Maybe I wasn't clear but I mentioned that you might as well use these new parts in the kit because they're cool. But the older parts G33 can also be used for sure, since most features were introduced "transitionally". And I know what you mean about the rear hull interlocking edges being a little too square in the kit.
@@Panzermeister36
First of all ... Sorry for my bad english. I'm Swiss.
I agree with the comments from Andreas Lärka. When ever a change startet in the building factory's it took some time until the complete production was "clean".
For examples the strait welded Engine Deck/ interlocked Engine Deck:
Alkett : until June 43 / from Mai 43
Miag : until June 43 / from March 43
or in your words, the small accsess hatch ( circular hatch for draining engine coolant):
Alkett with hatch until June 43
Alkett pluged an welded until June 43
Alkett with out hatch from March 43
Miag with hatch until July 43
Miag with out hatch from July 43
The same with the small trailer towing pintle:
It depends if you are building a StuG from Alkett or Miag. And if Miag, what type of StuG from Miag. Because the Miag StuG's based on the MAN Fgst. had a small towing pintle. But not a pivoting one.
So far you are absolutely correct because your build represents a Alkett StuG.
Form of Fender Support Brackts :
Pressed Steel Fender support brackets = Alkett
Tubular reinforced with triangular steel support = Miag
And there are many other small details to look on, depending on what factory had build the StuG you want to build ;-)
All in all you did a very good review to point out the main points and you sayed nothing wrong. But you simplified things and i think that is absolut OK. Most modellers will build the Kit more or less out of the box and to be honest, every body will see then a StuG III Ausf. G in a early version. And for the most people/modellers this is enough. Because the enjoy the build, painting and weathering process. Excessive rivet counting is only a minority.
With that in mind.... happy modelling and i'm looking forward to your next video ;-)
Are you Mr. Zimmermann from the Müller and Zimmermann Sturmgeschütz Vol.1 and 2 books? If so, I am a big fan of those books; they have been very informative for my interest in this vehicle.
Thank you for your comment! Yes, my comments are to build an "idealized" version of the vehicle. As you know, hybrids and transitional vehicles are common during the introduction of every new feature, so not all the new details and changes I pointed out with this kit for the May 1943 version are required to make it "historically correct". There is always some wiggle room.
Again, thank you for your comments. I have pinned these at the top of the video so others can be informed by you and Mr. Lärka.
@@Panzermeister36 You are right and thank you for your kind words about our StuG book's.
When I was building models as a kid (just coming up to 60, to give an idea) you built what was in the box and were happy. Roll on the years and now there is so much more choice, am parts, paints, books and great advice from you Guys that I have started modelling again :) TFS, GB :)
I like how you take accuracy so seriously! I would like another painting and weathering tutorial on this like you did a few years ago, those are very helpful, and I think your skill has improved!
I am already working on painting and weathering this one for a video! I had a few questions recently about how I get reference pictures and how I use them in the build, so this video will look at that topic.
I find these after build reviews a lot more useful than any in box review! 👍
Thank you! I am glad you find the videos helpful.
Excellent review. Great to see you back. Thanks
Thank you!
I just finished re-watching your Takom StuG video! I'm building that kit at the moment. I love these video's, they save me a lot of time doing research!
Glad I could help! I'll be gradually doing more StuG videos like this and the Takom one as I go through my stash.
Back to the StuGs!
I built that same kit for the StuG Life group build some years ago. As always you did an excellent job Evan, very interesting to see all the specific details and changes.
Thank you Michael! It is a pretty good kit. But with Border and RFM doing StuG kits now, I wonder if we will have even better options soon :)
That is a super clean build Ev! Looking forward to seeing what you do with this Stug!
Thank you Shane!
Outstanding review. Can’t wait to see you paint and weather the kit.
Coming soon!
Beauty, look forward to any progress videos you may make of this kit. Thanks again for the content.
I will be doing a painting and weathering video on it :)
@@Panzermeister36 Woohoo! Sweet!
I saw you subscribed thx it is great to See people i learned from enjoy my work Now
Very nice, always enjoy your vids and builds!!!
I built two of these kits that's how awesome this kit is.
Great update thanks for posting
Nice build and some very helpful detail/correction tips - thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very nice and I like this style of video. I've only built 2 Dragon kits but I get frustrated just looking at the corrections you've made to the instructions. Haha
I haven't heard much of Dragon in recent years. When I first started modeling around 8 years ago they were pretty much the biggest name in high detail armor kits. Now I feel like there are a lot more companies that have taken over in that area.
They are still the best in Tigers and Panzer 3s and 4s. RFM Takom and Border are close, but not there yet.
An interesting side note is that unlike Trumpeter and Takom, Dragon does not have its own factory. As a result, Dragon has to stop the production when the contract with one factory ends, and most of the time Dragon is looking for a qualified factory to continue their production (as people found different series of dragon kits have different types of plastic). I think this is partly why Dragon kits are rarer compared to other companies'. Also, Takom's factory also accpets orders from other companies like RFM and Boder as they don't have their own factory.
Looks good. Your work is first rate
I absolutely love those after-build reviews with many helpful tips and corrections, much appreciated... Are you planning to do something like this one with newly upcoming Stug from Border Model?
Yes, absolutely! I'm really excited for the Border Model late StuG kit :)
Watching this whilst I weather my Dragon StuH! Nice vid
Enjoy!
Nice job. Honest and accurate.
Thank you!
Brother your modeling is off the charts 👍🏻🇦🇺 well done buddy, love watching your builds and paints ;)
Oooh... time to grab a coffee and enjoy 😉
Well done!!! 👍👍👍How's about showing us your collection from time to time.
My collection of finished vehicles? I can do that some day :)
Great review! Do you know any particular reason as to why dragon changed so much over the years. I remember back in the day that dragon was one of the best if not THE best brand for detailed Armour kits, but now they are pretty much outclassed by any brand. Glad that you started uploading frequently.
Thank you! I believe it was due to cost-cutting measures they took due to labour issues in Hong Kong or wherever they make the kits.
Dude..I am sure you saw the Das Werk 1/16 Stug.....looks awesome.....
I'm building there stug 3 ausf B the recent release one that too is very nice it's funny that not 1 sprue has stug 3 ausf B on them lol it's all panzer 4 stug n Brumbar etc on them! So must all be from parts of old kits they managed to make the new 2019 stug ausf B with!
I got a load of rare old new stock dragon kit's last week for £40 each absolutely amazing! The sdk 251s 3, 3 in 1 kits with all the extras and figures the Geschutzwagen Grille the bergtiger on the ferdinand Hull to many to mention but one of our old modeler's passed away and his wife held a private auction! It's amazing what's floating around people's attics still! I got 4 Tamiya famos too the tank transporters!
Something satisfying about correcting Dragon's kits though eh! Atleast you get alot of the correct parts on other sprues! Its a nice build mate 👍
The same kits in the Syrian 6 day war Box! I used this kit to correct das werks reissued dragon kit they brought out earlier this year!
Only reason I watched this video is because I'm a fan/subscriber of Panzermeister's work. His knowledge of tanks in general is helpful and I appreciate his opinion.
Dragon's customer support is one of the worst I have experienced! (Kit # 6365) That was 6 years ago and I have not supported Dragon ever since. Their loss.
Congratulations on another excellent video. I've never made a Stug and I'd really like to put together a 1/35 scale kit. Could you recommend a model/manufacturer? Thanks in advance.
The new kits from Takom Blitz are pretty good. Personally I prefer these Dragon kits, such as 6578 here, or the new Rye Field Model kits but they are more fiddly. It depends on if you are a very experienced modeler or if you just enjoy a straightforward easy project.
Great review, I do have a question, what reference book would you recommend on the Stug III, Thank you for posting.
The Muller and Zimmermann book "Sturmgeschütz III Volume 2" is the best reference for sure, but it is hard to find nowadays. The Spielberger book "Sturmgeschütz and its Variants" is good but not perfect.
@@Panzermeister36 found the second one, I also found the first one but , I not going to pay $300.00 for it.
Yeah. It has been out of print for 5 years now and the price has gone up tenfold. I think it was $45 when I got it.
An older type of muzzle brake was standardly used for the Early type, this your added metal gun is for the Mid version. But it is clear that the tanks that lasted longer had various modifications, including "Schurzen".😉
The type of brake I added was introduced in May 1943 which fits the time period. I verified this; there is an original condition May 43 vehicle in my local museum. But the early brake was still used at this time as well.
Nice kit.
I think so too!
really informative build review basically every detail covered! why DML added those awful DS tracks... well we do actually know. Anyways something about DML kits I really like is that they are so crisp and look great when built up. awesome work Ewan ! What is the gap behind the mantlet where the gun enters the hull? is that feature of Stug III or simply because it is dry fitted at the moment?
Thank you! Yes the gun and mantlet is just dry fitted so it's hanging out a little bit with that gap. Once it is glued it will look much better :)
Hi
Strugling to find a good picture off the c-clamp holder, have you got any suggestion were i could find it?
Building a 1/16 Stug III G from monochrome and nead to modify a little bit to the same config as your model 😊
Send me an email at panzermeister36@gmail.com and I will send you some photos.
Hi, what is your opinión about vallejo paints?. If I put a Vallejo primer it is possible apply as coat top tamiya Paint and viceversa?. Saludos from México. By the way one of my favorite Chanel.
Will you show us how you airbrush this? I love watching you airbrush you are wery talented, and I love how you film how you mix youre paint in the airbrush cup. Its so satisfying to see the Tamiya paints get blended with thinner and mixed up. I have learned from you the best thinning ratio, thinn paint sprays perfectly with no overspray. Have you tried the new Tamiya lacquer thinner with retarder in? Its wery good you might get even smoother results than with their basic laqcuer thinner because the paint gets a little longer to self level.
Yes I will show painting and weathering this one! And I've recently switched to Mr Color Leveling Thinner which is very good with Tamiya
@@Panzermeister36 I think the Laqcuerthinner retarder type witch I use is the same as leveling thinner.
Impressive!
Great video as always👍 Is there a website you use for reference photos or do you use books? By the way do you plan on building the 1/16 Das Werk StuG?
I usually look at books for specific details, though for free you can look at www.andreaslarka.net/ for a breakdown of StuG features over production periods.
As for the Das Werk 1/16 kit, I don't think I will be building it as it has a lot of issues and the detail is poor (it is an upscaled version of the 1/35 Takom Blitz kit which already is a bit simple on the details in 1/35th scale). I'll probably go for the 1/16 Trumpeter StuG kit coming out in a couple of months.
I am building 6365. Is it similar?
Hoping to finish it this winter
Dragon 6365 is basically the same kit but a slightly earlier version. So you will only have the early fender supports G33 (no new parts L4 or whatever), you will not need the C-hooks I talked about (kit S-hooks are fine) and you will have the 50+30mm bolted hull front instead of solid 80mm plate (so you won't have to worry about filling the interlocks).
Overall, it builds basically the same vehicle, but without the couple of struggles I pointed out for 6578.
Nice presentation and details! Waiting impatiently for the sequel. By the way, I sent you an email 5 days ago with pictures of my diorama, did you receive them?
Thank you! Yes I believe I got it, I will check my panzermeister36 email today.
What do you do with all your finished models?
I put them in my glass shelves :)
@@Panzermeister36 You must have a lot of shelving :-). I like your work. I will try some of the techniques I see you do in your videos. Thank You.
Not that much! I'm a slow builder and I don't finish that many models in a year. Thank you :)
Darn, you know your stuff..
Excellent video ! Btw where do you buy most of your models ? Most of the web sites i have looked at barely have Dragon kits.
I buy most of them locally here at swap meets or my local hobby shop. I'm lucky to still have a brick-and-mortar store in town.
ok merci
Bonne soirée
Great video as always! What do you think of the STuG/STuH from Das Werk(1/35)? I’m thinking of buying this kit as I cannot find much STuH kits. But I read that the 1/16 STuG from Das Werk has a lot of problems. So their quality is not always up to par.
Many problems? Saw Andy's video and he mostly praised the kit, any source where you found 5the problems. Thanks.
Well of course Andy praises it, he has a vested interest :) it's a decent kit but I think I will go with the 1/16 Trumpeter StuG instead; it looks much better and more detailed.
Great
What scale model is this?
1/35 scale
@@Panzermeister36 Jawsome, thanks. :)
Bonsoir
Premièrement bravo pour vos maquettes qui sont superbes ainsi que vos vidéos. Je voudrais me procurer certaines peintures à l'huile de chez Wilder
qui ne sont pas disponibles en Europe
Pourriez vous m'indiquer un site d'achats en ligne
Dans l'attente de votre réponse
Cordialement
Bonjour,
Les produits de Wilder sont fabriqués en Russie, et à cause du covid il y a des problems de production et distribution. J'ai contacté Adam Wilder, mais il n'a plus de contrôle sûr la marque Wilder.
Maintenant, je recommand les peintures à l'huile de "502 Abteilung" (distribué par AK Interactive) au lieu de Wilder.
Désolé pour mon mauvais Français...
Post paint video next?
Full painting and weathering tutorial on this one coming soon.
@@Panzermeister36 Hell ya bro!
I will make the c hook clamp tonight if you got reference.. or a picture.. i will just release the file on thingyverse
I have a few pictures. No exact dimensions though...
fuck me son, that's how you do a how to on a kit. Lovely. Still waiting on StuGs for Dummies.
StuGs for dummies is tough when more and more StuGs come out! But, it's something I need to get done.
@@Panzermeister36 well i watched every minute of this, hoping to put it to memory.
I wonder why Dragon stop making Magic Tracks !!??😡 My favorite brand is Ryefield ! Because they are complete ! I love their tracks !!!
First without porn link!!!!
Yeah, I hate the spam that keeps showing up these days...
Nice kit but those tracks look bad. The left side rear where there's a big gap doesn't look good at all. Throw those things away and get some rubber bands or afv tracks.
They're just dry fitted. They're left like that so I can pop them off to paint separately. Once I glue them they will look great.