Yeah trust me recently he was on a 1xtra grime set and someone said in the comments "what the fuck is the guy in the yellow wearing" okay then okay lol these new grime fans are oblivious
tbf Doogz hasn't put in the same amount of work that Wiley did. Yet tbf even Wiley struggled with getting recognition for what he did, but Wiley released like tons of music and helped to kickstart bare artists' careers, so that served him well in the long run. Truth is, none of the veterans are getting the deserved recognition nowadays. It's the same with hip-hop veterans. First generations of any genre are the most important, yet the least famous or rich in the long run.
way back when, this clash was big and I was only 17 (I'm 30 now) and I remember listening to Doogz for the first time and immediately declared him winner of this clash no long ting, I mean Wiley came aighhht but Doogz had too much lyrically but if we look at the longevity and evolution of music then Wiley leaves him in the past as old news, after this clash Doogz never really came with anything new or even had a hit single let alone a mixtape or an album don't get me wrong I still think Doogz is harder on the mic even though Wiley is G.O.A.T in grime overall but after this clash William went strength for strength where as Doogz got left behind. I really wanted something big from Doogz and even till this day I still find myself waiting... oh well, just to stick to the subject Doogz murked off Wiley in this one but Wiley's music will always be better.
Real talk, I was the same age, but I weren't really into grime/garage I was a proper hip-hop head. ( D-Block was the shit ). To me a lot of garage and grime MC's lyrics punchlines and metaphors were weak to me. But when I heard Doogz he was on a different level. It's mad how he just faded into the background while the scene got bigger and bigger. Doogz won the battle but Wiley clearly won the war.
Ski I have to reply and say I agree with you in regards to Wiley being a bigger name in mainstream grime.. as in being in the charts as a Rolex sweep etc etc.. but DG has kept it real.. and you saying he hasn't brought out a album or mix tape that isn't banging then i have 3 albums off I tunes from DG and one that is shit the last one.. so just cos it isn't played on the top 40 doesn't mean is shit
Still the best clash. Just raw mc'ing on a bare bones instrumental. This era was so incredibly unique. The recent Stormzy/Wiley dubs are so flat in comparison
Your so right, tbf it was an older against the new hottest talent from the UK(if you listen to the critics) and there was a mutual respect between them. I think Wiley got what he needed from that clash............
I heard of this Durrty Doogz guy from some random comment, and found my nosey self here. I'm 8years late. I didn't think I'd ever heard of him until I heard that "move pick get out the way". That's the extent of that but I like him though. Any way From your page name and content. Ima just share that Dubplate Drama has a place in this history. That show for me and Shystie are the reasons I love the clash culture, and everything that came before during and after it, including alot of our MCs who are still here till this day, including Wiley! It was definitely my introduction to all of this. It's just a shame that not a lot of people knew about it because it came on so damn late on Channel U. But luckily I found it again and was able to watch the whole thing without having to wait a week for the next episode, or stay up late.
You smashed it for these uploads jeeeeze!!! Lewisham college days , staying up late listening to these on Choice Fm Commander B Night flight sessions. I had these on Tdk tape . memories jeeeze
@@GarageGrimeHistory while I'm young yes I'm gunna have some fun, shweby whooooaahhh! Na I was just trolling my bedrin Mics, we peers so if he old we old together unfortunately ca these was our schl days
Doogz used to get me so gassed when he first starting popping off!!! guy is FIRE!!! that being said wiley was to much and done so much for grime both legends FACT!!!!
Likkle Bois like "Wiley can be beat by anyone" Then claim someone's the best cos they think they beat Wiley. Caught you out admitting who's really the best.
Most mc be scared to death of doing a track with DURRTY they stay away from him lol it's a shame when being too good holds u back. Sound boi murderer was his best collab he did with devlin for me
Anyone else wish that Grime was still on the scene like back then instead of this drill trash as all these drill rappers have similar flows where as back when Grime was relevant as when this clash took place we had so many different flows an some serious instrumentals honestly the youngers of today have no idea just how great we had it
@@GarageGrimeHistory I totally see why drill has destroyed the scene they all rap about the same rubbish an in all honesty it's half the reason why the streets are as messed up as they are now
Goodz was the only one to bring it. Wiley still clashing everyone. It's definitely done a lot for his career. Great publicity. I prefer the ghetto setting. Would like to see him and Stormzy clash live. One 2 One old skool not pre recorded. RAW EMOTIONS!!! Love the old skool style of clashing. Don't care who wins. Respect everyone for what they are doing.
omg probably best clash I've ever heard!!! goodz spun wiley here to be honest only kano has got to him and that clash was debateable but this is clear cut!
@Liam English I agree with u bro!! Wileys just an all rounda in the music plus he brang in doogz on this war ting! To expose grime!! And whos tune r they spitting on? Wileys the bassline lol
It’s harder to go somewhere when you’re pretty much the best already. Whereas losing makes you want to come back stronger than the competition that may have initially duppied you. What do I know?
British Grime/Garage Music History I agree. My best mate is newish to grime, we listened to a lot of hip hop back then and he’s on teamStormzy and it’s fucking heartbreaking lol! He’s slowly coming round...
@@GarageGrimeHistory I remember Wiley trying to do the Again flow on radio & stumbling under the pressure. Stormzy can't chat to 2020 Wiley let alone Wiley is in his prime
These are same lyrics as his lotm clash with Kano and same lyrics as the conflict dvd with titch and dizzee that’s all Im saying. Have a look for yourself
DURRTY GOODZ. Am a bully on the mic Been a bully all my life But a never been a bully with a knife. Ask logon, These rappers hate me cos a can expose um. IO WOT U LOOKING AT
You're an idiot, Wiley didnt start Grime...he just made the track Wot do u call it? and he stuck with the title of the creator but the south was doing grime before him...alot of people were
Wiley did create grime. He made Eskimo which was the first grime beat, was just garage chopped up. The only person doing that at the time was Skream who is the creator of dub-step and both are evolved from garage. What do you call it came a few years after.
I know I'm 5 years late on this comment like but ya know thats all doogz right? It's just he has one of the most versatile flows you will ever here go check out battle hype and come back and apologise 😂😂
mussilini syke no he didnt. 😂😂😂 the jamaican lines were too much. Also listen to cokey the snowman and pantys bras coke and ambers and come back and say that 😂😂😂😂. This was wiley at his best. Doogz buried him every person says it even wiley
omg probably best clash I've ever heard!!! goodz spun wiley here to be honest only kano has got to him and that clash was debateable but this is clear cut!
Doogz was the only man that could bring real mic war to Wiley
Dot rotten and Trim?
man said dot rotten yano asif
wiley is and always has been shit
@@Wavy_one23 Dot Rotten is literally the best grime mc fuck you talking about? Wiley is dead always has been.
FREIDA RHEALNESS fix up
I don't really care who won all the Wiley clashes, I'm just greatful we got to witness those old grime moments
I remember listening to this when I was 14...still gets me bopping at 31
doogz is a lyrical farrda, it's mad how none of these dons pay homage to one of the pioneers in this ting.
Yeah trust me recently he was on a 1xtra grime set and someone said in the comments "what the fuck is the guy in the yellow wearing" okay then okay lol these new grime fans are oblivious
Pubbala from customer cares what was the get called. I missed doogz man he was a problem after wiley everyone was shook to clash him
tbf Doogz hasn't put in the same amount of work that Wiley did. Yet tbf even Wiley struggled with getting recognition for what he did, but Wiley released like tons of music and helped to kickstart bare artists' careers, so that served him well in the long run. Truth is, none of the veterans are getting the deserved recognition nowadays. It's the same with hip-hop veterans. First generations of any genre are the most important, yet the least famous or rich in the long run.
he was as good as it gets but the problem was he was a bit too good...hes so verisitile so he kept changing styles
You are wrong with that lol you mean kano was the only pne that touched Wileys level when they clashed
32 and re living the dream
way back when, this clash was big and I was only 17 (I'm 30 now) and I remember listening to Doogz for the first time and immediately declared him winner of this clash no long ting, I mean Wiley came aighhht but Doogz had too much lyrically but if we look at the longevity and evolution of music then Wiley leaves him in the past as old news, after this clash Doogz never really came with anything new or even had a hit single let alone a mixtape or an album don't get me wrong I still think Doogz is harder on the mic even though Wiley is G.O.A.T in grime overall but after this clash William went strength for strength where as Doogz got left behind. I really wanted something big from Doogz and even till this day I still find myself waiting... oh well, just to stick to the subject Doogz murked off Wiley in this one but Wiley's music will always be better.
ski caliph I feel the same here .
MrMenzia It's a shame really because me and you both know Doogz is a mic genius...
Real talk, I was the same age, but I weren't really into grime/garage I was a proper hip-hop head. ( D-Block was the shit ). To me a lot of garage and grime MC's lyrics punchlines and metaphors were weak to me. But when I heard Doogz he was on a different level. It's mad how he just faded into the background while the scene got bigger and bigger.
Doogz won the battle but Wiley clearly won the war.
Josh New you all chat shit wiley went shit and pop and goodz has kept it real since day saying he faded away i use to rate wiley until i heard goodz
Ski I have to reply and say I agree with you in regards to Wiley being a bigger name in mainstream grime.. as in being in the charts as a Rolex sweep etc etc.. but DG has kept it real.. and you saying he hasn't brought out a album or mix tape that isn't banging then i have 3 albums off I tunes from DG and one that is shit the last one.. so just cos it isn't played on the top 40 doesn't mean is shit
30 y.o from Peckham going back to this
War but mi Affi call it wizzzarrr
Still the best clash. Just raw mc'ing on a bare bones instrumental. This era was so incredibly unique. The recent Stormzy/Wiley dubs are so flat in comparison
Your so right, tbf it was an older against the new hottest talent from the UK(if you listen to the critics) and there was a mutual respect between them. I think Wiley got what he needed from that clash............
This is the greatest grime clash in history!!!!! Never been a better back n forth then Wiley vs Doogz
Agreed
I heard of this Durrty Doogz guy from some random comment, and found my nosey self here. I'm 8years late. I didn't think I'd ever heard of him until I heard that "move pick get out the way". That's the extent of that but I like him though. Any way
From your page name and content. Ima just share that Dubplate Drama has a place in this history.
That show for me and Shystie are the reasons I love the clash culture, and everything that came before during and after it, including alot of our MCs who are still here till this day, including Wiley! It was definitely my introduction to all of this. It's just a shame that not a lot of people knew about it because it came on so damn late on Channel U. But luckily I found it again and was able to watch the whole thing without having to wait a week for the next episode, or stay up late.
You smashed it for these uploads jeeeeze!!! Lewisham college days , staying up late listening to these on Choice Fm Commander B Night flight sessions. I had these on Tdk tape . memories jeeeze
Ffs man i can imagine how live that must've been
U old man!!!!
@@raggozulurebel9507 an you young man🤙🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿😎😎😎
@@GarageGrimeHistory while I'm young yes I'm gunna have some fun, shweby whooooaahhh! Na I was just trolling my bedrin Mics, we peers so if he old we old together unfortunately ca these was our schl days
I remember hearing this clash live. Doogz peppered him 🔥
8:48 🔥😡
I've been looking for this for the best part of a decade!! Durrty is just untouchable. Its Real...
Doogz used to get me so gassed when he first starting popping off!!! guy is FIRE!!! that being said wiley was to much and done so much for grime both legends FACT!!!!
“You’re a coke head, I can see the work in your face, or is it cause Flowdan jerked in your face... “. DG took this clash. Fully rate both though.
Goodz is just a better artist Nuff said
"Eskimo's a person durrr doogz". Wiley was the intellectual lyricist.
Doogz said the tech will melt the Eskimo,
Still era 2022 real grime
Still come back to this durrty is too good if you know then you know ;)
Likkle Bois like "Wiley can be beat by anyone"
Then claim someone's the best cos they think they beat Wiley.
Caught you out admitting who's really the best.
This is still hard at 2021🙈🙈🙈
Igloo riddim, remember when this buss had it on cd these were the days legendary…. Who got murked 😂
If I had Goodz talent I would slew an mc every single day non stop
Most mc be scared to death of doing a track with DURRTY they stay away from him lol it's a shame when being too good holds u back. Sound boi murderer was his best collab he did with devlin for me
Anyone else wish that Grime was still on the scene like back then instead of this drill trash as all these drill rappers have similar flows where as back when Grime was relevant as when this clash took place we had so many different flows an some serious instrumentals honestly the youngers of today have no idea just how great we had it
One of the main reasons why I started the channel........
@@GarageGrimeHistory I totally see why drill has destroyed the scene they all rap about the same rubbish an in all honesty it's half the reason why the streets are as messed up as they are now
Goodz was the only one to bring it. Wiley still clashing everyone. It's definitely done a lot for his career. Great publicity. I prefer the ghetto setting. Would like to see him and Stormzy clash live. One 2 One old skool not pre recorded. RAW EMOTIONS!!! Love the old skool style of clashing. Don't care who wins. Respect everyone for what they are doing.
I wanna see Doogz come now and teach the new school a fucking lesson...
Nokia 3310 used to have such a good mic.
omg probably best clash I've ever heard!!! goodz spun wiley here to be honest only kano has got to him and that clash was debateable but this is clear cut!
Doogz!
Wiley is cold!!!!!! Doogz is in another realm!!!!!
This was doogz at his worst in the clash and he still buried him. Cokey the snowman and pantys bras coke and camera are tooo much.
I reckon they both go in but Durrty had him
AZZomwhazz as
@Liam English I agree with u bro!! Wileys just an all rounda in the music plus he brang in doogz on this war ting! To expose grime!! And whos tune r they spitting on? Wileys the bassline lol
FUCKING HELL that was FIRE.. BOMBA
😂🤣 2 nil Doogz. I remember all these barrs from both thanks to lil bro
Wileys a boss!!!! Legend!!
Im #DurrtyDoogz fan from day1 #Jamaica
"I will blaze Puff Daddy" 🤣🤣🤣 #Underrated
0:16
Raw as f! Need to be REAL grime like this again
It’s harder to go somewhere when you’re pretty much the best already. Whereas losing makes you want to come back stronger than the competition that may have initially duppied you. What do I know?
Eminem an example for why he stayed on top
do round 3 and include dizzee and titch stuff etc
2021 and ONLY L Wiley will tell you he took. Durrty took it there
damn he went INNN
Wiley from what y’all telling me was essentially ninja man straight fearless brought it to anybody!!! Durty doogz is insane still !! Peace from 🇨🇦
British music history lesson
2021
When slew was a word lol....
Yea 18 years ago😅🤣😅😂😎
Wow! Now I feel old...
British Grime/Garage Music History I agree. My best mate is newish to grime, we listened to a lot of hip hop back then and he’s on teamStormzy and it’s fucking heartbreaking lol! He’s slowly coming round...
British Grime/Garage Music History it is mad how little attention people pay to the backstory...
British Grime/Garage Music History aaah he just text me saying doogz is the big l of grime!😂😂🔥🔥😎
The only don to out flow Wiley with his own flow.
@@GarageGrimeHistory I remember Wiley trying to do the Again flow on radio & stumbling under the pressure. Stormzy can't chat to 2020 Wiley let alone Wiley is in his prime
Yea pretty sure i have a set with that "Again" flow on my channel, but well said bro Wiley is the GOAT Grime Godfada......
love this channel!
Doogz man. Fucking go on.
Doogz, wiley got wasted on this track
yh man
Levels !!!
WILEY = G.O.A.T
Durrty murderd Wiley
Yessss!!!!!
WILEY IS MEEK MILL IN THIS SITUATION! LOL RIP BRUH #blacklivesmatter
My best clash ever
Dont care who won...🎶💯
Wiley smashed that
Wiley used the same lyrics in every clash he’s had
Don’t mean to be it just annoys me how many times he uses the same simple stuff every time and mans saying he “the godfather” and all that. My bad bro
Edited ✌️
You know nothing about grime...
These are same lyrics as his lotm clash with Kano and same lyrics as the conflict dvd with titch and dizzee that’s all Im saying. Have a look for yourself
Godfather
Doogz is still the one.....!
Wiley is having a hard time with being murked by goodz trim and Devlin
I keep coming back to this for doogz reply that is the most filthiest dirrty disgusting slewige I have ever heard... Big up
Please! Who's the DJ?
5:30
wiley says 'i'll blaze puff daddy, u think puff daddy's better than me? etc'
Doogz mercd wiley
D Double O G S? Doogs? Okay Wilez.
DURRTY GOODZ.
Am a bully on the mic
Been a bully all my life
But a never been a bully with a knife. Ask logon,
These rappers hate me cos a can expose um.
IO WOT U LOOKING AT
doogz is fucking sickkkkkk
2-0 to DOOGZ
Kylie catching bare haymakers on the ropes ☠️
Wiley clever
This is grime
Wiley got murked!!
i thought doogz won till i heard this
and wots dat puff daddy all about?
These kids worshipping dot are hilarious.
Worship dot please, lol
@@clintonblake9633 gaga googoo
Wiley took this one
Stupid comments about durrty is grime . Wiley started it ALL open the grime gates for every past and present
You're an idiot, Wiley didnt start Grime...he just made the track Wot do u call it? and he stuck with the title of the creator but the south was doing grime before him...alot of people were
Wiley did create grime. He made Eskimo which was the first grime beat, was just garage chopped up. The only person doing that at the time was Skream who is the creator of dub-step and both are evolved from garage. What do you call it came a few years after.
No. Actually it was pulse X. Well that's considered the first grime. By in terms of mc's Wiley has done the nost, Eskimo Dance.
Wiley held down the brothers still
Durtty burried wiley
Can't top Wiley
Wiley need fi dash weh fi him mic an cool arrf doogz smashed the whole ting fuckin hard mate
Durrty can't even go in alone
I know I'm 5 years late on this comment like but ya know thats all doogz right? It's just he has one of the most versatile flows you will ever here go check out battle hype and come back and apologise 😂😂
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
pretty even still
Isaac Lyons even??? u should get your ears cleaned out
You mad. Understand bashment slang. Doogz had him on the maddest ropes Wiley even said it.
wiley finished him
With What Bars?
Wiley slewed Doogz on this one
No he didn't. 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Wiley got raped from the bashment slang. That's why everyone in grime says Wiley lost this clash
Wiley ate him without even chewing
mussilini syke no he didnt. 😂😂😂 the jamaican lines were too much. Also listen to cokey the snowman and pantys bras coke and ambers and come back and say that 😂😂😂😂. This was wiley at his best. Doogz buried him every person says it even wiley
Wiley even admitted doogz and Kano are his only losses
@mista-eofficialpage881 the top guys in grime St the time when grime was at its peak.
omg probably best clash I've ever heard!!! goodz spun wiley here to be honest only kano has got to him and that clash was debateable but this is clear cut!
Is the kano clash on here..