Thorns Module X Upgrade LV3 Showcase - The Best Mixed Damage Dealer

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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    Much like Blaze, Thorns is back. The new Lord module give the OG single-target AFK operator new aggressiveness to tackle enemies. The high arts DOT to enemies(ranged especially) help him crack down high DEF fast. The 3:2 Physical:Arts DPS set is crazy good, making him arguably the best operator with mixed damage in kit.
    BGM:
    塞壬唱片-MSR - El Brillo Solitario

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  • @DragonGJY
    @DragonGJY  3 місяці тому +179

    One thing I kinda forget to mention:
    Thorns' arts DOT is a fixed number regardless of his current attack, which means the now stackable DOT will help him out even more during off-skill. Yes it sometimes make enemies die faster which compromises his skill charging a bit, but he IS very threatening off-skill now, it can make the difference between life and death, or leak vs. no leak. That's also the reason why Quercus is no longer required in the second footage (2:25)

    • @fallenwisp5001
      @fallenwisp5001 3 місяці тому +4

      I'm not sure if this is a good place to ask but it's relevant to Thorns, so...
      Logos' 2nd Talent gives a flat arts damage bonus to received arts damage. Does it affect Thorns' DoT?
      Or Blue Poison's DoT (Since her DoT works differently, iirc)?
      Or does it need to be strictly a direct arts attack?

    • @lunesaveter8521
      @lunesaveter8521 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@fallenwisp5001 it does but the entire durations of the dot only trigger it once, and not every instance of damage in the dot trigger it if I don't remember wrong

  • @Mikufan-lb7zu
    @Mikufan-lb7zu 3 місяці тому +261

    When HG cooked in one patch Thorns+SA+Quibai modules and then there's Frostleaf

    • @maisjaki
      @maisjaki 3 місяці тому +19

      The module really feels like consolation prize for those E2-ed Frostleaf

    • @rainzerdesu
      @rainzerdesu 3 місяці тому +69

      @@maisjaki hardly seems a consolation. should have been removing the aspd penalty. They could have made her the Lappland of cold application

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому +14

      ⁠@@rainzerdesu
      I agree, while she should only inflict up to cold on every default attack (as in she can't freeze on default), letting her freeze on skill activation on Mod-Lv3 could be fair.
      Making her cold rely on RNG like her S2 bind is just worse since it’ll just be unreliable.

    • @Noobboi99
      @Noobboi99 3 місяці тому +2

      Who? lmao

  • @char1194
    @char1194 3 місяці тому +67

    Really cool how a complete non-factor of a talent was turned into an actual cornerstone of his kit. Stuff like this is what makes modules so fun when they're designed well

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому +3

      Meanwhile Frostleaf…

    • @char1194
      @char1194 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Zack_Zander her talent *isn't* a non-factor, unfortunately
      As someone with a raised frostleaf i feel yall but i dont wanna harp on it too much id rather chill and focus on the good

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому

      @@char1194
      If for whatever reason they can't let her inflict cold on every bit (not inflicting freeze), I felt that they could’ve at least let her guaranteed to inflict cold during her skills attack.
      25% just rely on too much RNG which feels more like a detriment.

  • @caniwishformorewishes8654
    @caniwishformorewishes8654 3 місяці тому +16

    His new outfit gives Thorns a crucial role as a laneholder backing up Vulcan and Wai Fu in the kicknights niche.

  • @IamHero_1337
    @IamHero_1337 3 місяці тому +221

    And people still call this mod bad. The math proves it's at least a decent boost to his damage output. Helps him catch up to today's standards.

    • @imzelone
      @imzelone 3 місяці тому +90

      I guess Wisadel and Logos broke people's perception of DPS and total dmg

    • @bellseb
      @bellseb 3 місяці тому +31

      Who is calling this module bad??

    • @oyshrimp
      @oyshrimp 3 місяці тому +33

      ​@@bellsebmajority comment on Lappipi Video "Thorn Modules"

    • @helmifaiz4504
      @helmifaiz4504 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@bellseb me.... or perhaps, my past self before this videos comes out
      I guess, I was hoping that they improved his DPH significantly, like how they did with SilverAsh's "deals increased damage to Elite Enemies"
      But oh well, Thorns' increased stats + stacking DOT is actually make a big improvement now

    • @johanesbpermadi2016
      @johanesbpermadi2016 3 місяці тому +47

      yeah, people who judged modules bad just because of the difference in DPH is not that much is just need to broaden their horizon. Comparison video with and without module in the best and worst case scenario is the best indicator of how the module upgrade is good or not.

  • @jo-ri-oh8950
    @jo-ri-oh8950 3 місяці тому +60

    Thorns module is good despite what some people thinking 👌
    Day 5 of waiting for Ulpian on EN server

  • @Kratoks06
    @Kratoks06 3 місяці тому +82

    Showing some love for one of the OGs. This is great news for my friend who is playing again after years.

    • @dragichav2810
      @dragichav2810 3 місяці тому +6

      Lol Thorns OG ? 😅 He came a year after AK released. Not even 1st year operator 😐

    • @gosha5870
      @gosha5870 3 місяці тому +3

      And then there's frostleaf

    • @sorashizen5130
      @sorashizen5130 3 місяці тому

      Except that thorns wasn't one of the originals

  • @user-ashborn16
    @user-ashborn16 3 місяці тому +48

    The god of AFK returns!

  • @wheelotime2581
    @wheelotime2581 3 місяці тому +40

    He got poison in his boots bro nasty

    • @KaitoFlinn
      @KaitoFlinn 3 місяці тому +3

      it's all the sea-salt

  • @aruaruru624
    @aruaruru624 3 місяці тому +10

    as a thorny lover and still an avid user of him im so glad this module is fairly good. i love using him, i love this new skin, thorn lovers are winning big

  • @neptuuna9107
    @neptuuna9107 3 місяці тому +16

    Damn, can't wait to get the module for my thorns.
    IF I HAVE HIM

    • @pallas-bq2fi
      @pallas-bq2fi 3 місяці тому

      PFFFHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAAAA, god that hurt my soul, and i don't even have one.

  • @koyomi0401
    @koyomi0401 3 місяці тому +49

    The music matching with his new outfit is so good lol

  • @tryzyn8853
    @tryzyn8853 3 місяці тому +25

    Thorns' theme is so good

  • @cefrinaldi8060
    @cefrinaldi8060 3 місяці тому +4

    Really love the module. It enhance Thorn overall capabilites as afk ops. People might still call it useless but i love it so much.

  • @lunamagnoliid8984
    @lunamagnoliid8984 3 місяці тому +7

    Seeing a side-by-side makes "a little" attack speed look way stronger than it feels.. Y'know besides Horn with Saileach lol

  • @SnakeintheGarden
    @SnakeintheGarden 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm so envious CN gets this stuff before EN does and I just have to sit here, in anticipation, for my favorite operator to get the new update.

  • @jakeshmo3322
    @jakeshmo3322 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Mr. Dragon for the video. Ever since I miraculously pulled Thorns in 10 pulls as a F2P from the Dorothy-Thorns banner a while back, he's always been one of my favorite carries. Very excited for his module.

  • @anman1
    @anman1 3 місяці тому +4

    The video has the beautiful music. Thank you Dragon

    • @Ezekiel_Allium
      @Ezekiel_Allium 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm pretty sure the song is Thorns' character theme

    • @pallas-bq2fi
      @pallas-bq2fi 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Ezekiel_Allium yep, el brilo solitario

  • @neonayse8803
    @neonayse8803 3 місяці тому +16

    Of the four cornerstone operators, it seems like Mountain gets the least improvement in mods

    • @MindayKalana
      @MindayKalana 3 місяці тому +9

      A bit of a shame, but then he's very cheap dp wise and very low maintenance for what he does :p

    • @IamHero_1337
      @IamHero_1337 3 місяці тому

      If all goes well, his second module is guaranteed to give him 15% Physical dodge. And it should upgrade the talent that already gives Physical dodge. If all goes well, he could become a true threat against Physical damage.

    • @KaitoFlinn
      @KaitoFlinn 3 місяці тому +7

      it's the price he pays for being one of the best set-and-forget units in the game

    • @sekischro5093
      @sekischro5093 3 місяці тому +4

      in calculations he gets 30% more dps

    • @pallas-bq2fi
      @pallas-bq2fi 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@MindayKalana mountain is a 3+1 pump action shotgun, while thorns is a taurus circuit judge, search up on those guns and you'll see how much sense it makes.

  • @kip7798
    @kip7798 3 місяці тому +3

    one of my favorite types of videos on the channel! good to see thorns finally shining as a mixed damage unit like i always wanted

  • @zenalias3131
    @zenalias3131 3 місяці тому +1

    Yooooo!
    Team Aegir featured in the Rat King map. Love it

  • @Kay-00
    @Kay-00 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro after seeing thorn module, now I really want Bluepoison module make her talent stackable like him.

  • @Rexicide
    @Rexicide 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for your hard work!!

  • @voices0000
    @voices0000 3 місяці тому +1

    sick module
    now that blaze and him are restored my brain can rest

  • @jjjjj248
    @jjjjj248 3 місяці тому +2

    nah the true killer is the skin. sick AF
    2:42 thorn kick when offskill attacking block enemies 😂

  • @Chordat3
    @Chordat3 3 місяці тому +3

    I misread his name on the title as Thomas 😭

    • @KaitoFlinn
      @KaitoFlinn 3 місяці тому +2

      Thorns the DoT Engine

    • @pallas-bq2fi
      @pallas-bq2fi 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@KaitoFlinn this shit made me laugh

  • @nadiali8ekarimi249
    @nadiali8ekarimi249 3 місяці тому

    As a player who lacks a lot in arts damage operator, i see this as an absolute advantage 👏 nice improvements HG

  • @hartoramasenju4012
    @hartoramasenju4012 3 місяці тому +22

    All of the lord modules are great, then there's Frostleaf module

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому

      She really should have guaranteed cold infliction (without allowing it to freeze on default) instead of a measly 25% with her already decreased ASPD, or at the very least make it so her skills guarantee the infliction.

  • @vanya3935
    @vanya3935 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for doing this.

  • @Phiro00
    @Phiro00 3 місяці тому +5

    Can you do a video like this for lappland? And maybe qiubai too?

  • @reversal3628
    @reversal3628 3 місяці тому +8

    🅱estreza

  • @sorashizen5130
    @sorashizen5130 3 місяці тому

    I just got silverash from shop, cant wait for his mod and skin ^^
    I'm still waiting for thorns l2d skin HG

  • @Ender_Wiggin03
    @Ender_Wiggin03 3 місяці тому +2

    We all know it's his skin that causes him to do more DPS, and not his module...

  • @prd6617
    @prd6617 3 місяці тому

    it seem that his module kind of have the same trade-off similar to cantabile S1
    not having it upgraded mean longer to kill enemies means more DP/SP from 1 target,
    having it upgraded make them more reliable but will hinder their DP/SP they can get from each target.

  • @Anomen77
    @Anomen77 3 місяці тому +1

    This module's existence only makes Blue Poison's module even more of a crime.

  • @aereonexapprentice7205
    @aereonexapprentice7205 3 місяці тому +21

    Frostnova's module dies so that Thorn's can live

    • @doomclasher9287
      @doomclasher9287 3 місяці тому +6

      So FristNova did end up joining Rhodes Island...
      (let us pretend that my spelling mistake is part of the joke)

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому +2

      Frostnova?

    • @haatsunemiku
      @haatsunemiku 3 місяці тому

      @@Zack_Zanderi was wondering why u were confused before i remembered her name was frostleaf and not nova 💀💀

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому

      @@haatsunemiku
      Frostnova has turned to ash and dust,

    • @aereonexapprentice7205
      @aereonexapprentice7205 3 місяці тому +1

      Frostleaf is so forgettable that my brain went immediately to Frostnova

  • @idontwantahandlewhymustidothis
    @idontwantahandlewhymustidothis 3 місяці тому

    Thorns is back baby

  • @fischwell
    @fischwell 3 місяці тому +2

    nu uh, im sorry but how do i know its the module and not the skin? maybe the costume is so slay it increases the damage output

  • @Bruh_____________
    @Bruh_____________ 11 днів тому

    So... When does this module appear in global?

  • @Khroniclas
    @Khroniclas 3 місяці тому

    Juicy content.

  • @KrazyBean14
    @KrazyBean14 3 місяці тому +2

    Ugh, I need more mod blocks...

  • @jevs1555
    @jevs1555 3 місяці тому

    They cooked with this module. And the damage difference is noticeable

  • @ElinaTai
    @ElinaTai 20 днів тому

    I LOVE THORNS CAINT WAIT FOR SKIN ON EN

  • @MorgtheDNDude
    @MorgtheDNDude 3 місяці тому

    Now give this module to my BP and will really be vibin.

  • @nawfalmisconi1287
    @nawfalmisconi1287 3 місяці тому +1

    What content was too hard for thorns and blaze before the mods?

    • @DragonGJY
      @DragonGJY  3 місяці тому +6

      Mostly high DEF enemies that they can't tackle without modules

  • @galuhdesuka7378
    @galuhdesuka7378 3 місяці тому +1

    This module is nice thought i will get the SA module first cause i don't use thorn very often

  • @Jamesss6
    @Jamesss6 3 місяці тому +3

    Thorny

  • @ironlegion1580
    @ironlegion1580 3 місяці тому

    Tbh, even if they say it's bad, I want it max, my poor thorns ain't doing damage at all to the new 2024 bosses

  • @aldrichkyle7703
    @aldrichkyle7703 3 місяці тому +1

    am i the only one who liked Thorns' first skin more than the latest?

    • @KinaCow
      @KinaCow 20 днів тому

      I also prefer his shopping skin... I feel like he looks too expressionless for the dynamic pose in the new one. But the kick still makes me consider buying it xD

  • @elvatra8262
    @elvatra8262 3 місяці тому

    Does his pot 5 talent increase help him to deal more dot?

  • @imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961
    @imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961 3 місяці тому

    How much time until Reclamation Algorithm 2 releases?

    • @Razor4884
      @Razor4884 3 місяці тому +3

      Best guess is late July. So a bit under 2 months.

  • @fimbulvetr6129
    @fimbulvetr6129 3 місяці тому

    People act like he got the Fartooth treatment for goodness sake

  • @doctorkuroshi
    @doctorkuroshi 3 місяці тому +1

    HG cooked his module so hard they forgot to cook his lore

    • @sorashizen5130
      @sorashizen5130 3 місяці тому +1

      I know right? I wanted more screen time of him...thorns appearing in anime is a dream at this point

  • @oosky
    @oosky 3 місяці тому +1

    Im a new player and Ivebeen struggling to clear ce5, and this guy just... Lol

  • @theblissone
    @theblissone 3 місяці тому

    His new skin him From throwing Yellow liquid to throwing Brown liquid,it more ripe

  • @camtoantran8128
    @camtoantran8128 3 місяці тому +1

    0:13 is 135 + 10 = 150 ? v:

    • @josephngaihte007
      @josephngaihte007 3 місяці тому +6

      With module, it's 135(+10) at pot 1, 150(+10) at pot 3.

    • @sketchsama
      @sketchsama 3 місяці тому +8

      The potential increases it from 135 to 150, not the module

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 3 місяці тому +1

      Its 135/150, as in 135 *_OR_* 150 due to potentials

  • @personcabinet8622
    @personcabinet8622 3 місяці тому

    great, frost leaf module is a joke, HG 100% know that she is sht, despite that fact, she has now a sht module whit her, INSTEAD OF FIXING her WITH A MODULE HG made a 1 april joke on her, nice.
    thorn module is overkill, silverslash too, they didin't need module at first place.
    this is like turn off your brain and thorns it or silverslah it moment.
    can't whait to see mlynar module that gives him omega overdamage.
    ohhh i get it now, the logos and w alter is too strong yea , old 6 stars look bad when compared to them yea ok , hg ok.

  • @johndustin80
    @johndustin80 3 місяці тому

    Does anyone know when Thorns will be in the shop?
    Or when is the next 'pick your 6* pack?
    I need this man 🥹