Using 2 E-M1 II, I had already decided to skip the E-M1 III and wait for the new "wow" camera. Then it came out, I watched and read the reviews, saw the upgraded price and instead bought a used, but pristine E-M1 III from someone who had ordered the OM-1. The E-M1 III works fine for me along with the remaining E-M1 II, I have no problem with that (like I had earlier when using Pen-F and E-M1/II together). With the money that I saved, I bought a E-M5 III and still have some left over for a lens, once I find a space in my lens cupboard…
@@Sebror Both cameras are great! But the ergonomics are different. Starting from the old E-M5 I had gotten used to dial the exposure compensation on the right front dial. Having the histogram and over/under exposure warning in the viewfinder (see Peter's videos about that!) this works best for me. Unfortunately this is not possible with the Pen-F, which has a separate, but less convenient dial for that. Additionally, the whole button layout is different. Meanwhile the price of a pre-owned E-M1 II has dropped below that of the Pen-F. Although the E-M1 II isn't such a beautiful item as the Pen-F, it has many advantages for photography, so that is my clear recommendation.
I upgraded from the OM-D E-M1 Mark II to the Mark III for the charging, joystick, Live ND and processor. I plan to hold on to this body for long time. I watch UA-cam videos that say you don't need to spend a lot for a decent camera and then they show you these great new features on the latest models. I felt that the Mark III has enough benefits that convinced me to upgrade. Great discussion about a topic that makes sense.
I have a secondhand EM1 MK2 which cost me £500 with less than 1,000 shutter activations last year, the EM5 mk3 I bought brand new with a 14-150mm mk2 kit lens for £850, after trading in my EM10 MK3 dual lens kit for £400. The initial reason I got into photography was to take pictures at flower shows, unobtrusively taking around 700 to 800 pictures in less than 30 minutes at each show, without upsetting the judges. Ambient room lighting is used. I don't go over 400 ISO so the camera's IBIS deals with the slow shutter speeds and exposure compensation gets the colours right. Some of the plants are very difficult to portray properly when on a show bench (only judges are allowed to move plants) as they are surrounded by other exhibits, and some of the plants spread themselves around, encroaching on other exhibits. So still photographs can't really do some of them justice, as they get lost in competing plants. I wanted to add videos, however after the judging which takes around 30 minutes the show is opened up to the general public. That means no large camera gear. I settled on a DJI Pocket 2 and can even use it to provide a virtual tour of the branching stems of the larger plants. Only a couple of members of the public spotted the fact I was doing something and stopped me to ask. It will be interesting to see what the floral society members think of the videos. What's the above got to do with the OM-1? Well it's my reasoning why I will not be buying one until they either reach the £500 upgrade outlay, and/or my EM1 MK2/ EM5 MK3 breaks down. However, at around 20-25,000 photographs per year that could be many years. Then again by the time my existing cameras are no longer up to the job it could be that the OM-1 MK2, 3, 4 or even the successor to the OM-1 series will be available given a 2 yearly upgrade cycle from OM Systems. There's always a newer something arriving, but you have to ask yourself, will it do the job noticeably better than what I've already got. Unless I get into bird in flight photography..😀
I had a Canon 7D for several years, and then I upgraded to a Canon 7D Mark II. That was four or five years ago. So my recent purchase of an OM1 Mark III is not so much an upgrade as it is a total change of camera systems. I bought it yesterday, and I don't yet have it. My reasons for switching, and it does appear that it will be a serious upgrade for me, is that the Olympus 4:3 camera system promises to be much lighter and less bulky. Due to physical problems, reducing the weight and size of my camera gear may allow me to get out there and make phots again. The true test of whether this purchase will be worth it is if it gets me out there again. I have been away from photography for about 3 years, maybe a little more. A lot of the features of the Olympus camera sound very intriguing to me. So, I will let you know how it works out for me. THANK YOU for the very helpful videos. I have by no means watched them all.
Sound guidance, Peter! I think it also helps to compare the cameras available today to the very best film cameras of the not-so-distant past and simply appreciate what we now have to work with. I loved my Canon F1n, but to think of all that my Olympus E-M1ii can do, it’s amazing. I’m more than happy for now, for my purposes, and I have the knowledge that the OM-1 is waiting for me whenever I may feel so inclined. It’s a wonderful time to enjoy photography!
Inspired by you and others like you here on UA-cam but in a different way, I have just upgraded my only camera I bought brand new 10 years ago. I am upgrading from an OMD Em5 mark 1 to a second hand hardly used OMD Em1 mark 2 and will perhaps upgrade to a second hand OM-1 much later as newer cameras are developed for my personal private hobby use. It will be a great joy for me to enjoy all the new features with my allmost new much more advanced camera.
I think an upgrade makes a lot of sense for wildlife photographers, especially for bird photography. The autofocus improvement in combination with artificial intelligence - tracking of eyes, etc., is very important. Tracking those animals with a rock solid autofocus is crucial. So, in my opinion this is one of the reasons to consider an upgrade, in addition of what you explained, Peter (video, speed, low light, better menu).
I would buy the OMD OM1 if I could afford it (it is an excellent camera). Instead, I use an Olympus E-M1 Mark II (which is also a fine camera) which I bought used in mint condition from ebay. For professionals and enthusiasts with a large budget, it makes sense to buy the latest & greatest gear. For someone like me who uses their camera mostly for vacation photography not so much.
I may be the exception, but I don't like new gear. I'm not against new technology, or spending the money, it's just that I like to be instinctively familiar with menus, and know the camera controls by touch alone while looking through the viewfinder. A new camera can take weeks to get used to, and months to be completely familiar with. It's probably why shops do good business in older gear to even older professionals. They know the possibilities and limitations of a sensor, they know how to edit the output and don't need unnecessary distractions. Fortunately (for manufacturers and camera shops) we are all different.
I bought the OM-1 back in April and I’m really impressed! But I’m keeping the em1iii that I love also and it was the best and last “Olympus” Camera. The OM-5, released on October 2022, is smaller, but internally almost the same as the em1iii…. One more reason to keep the em1iii as a second Camera.
As an amateur, I tend to wait until good second hand models become available at a "fair" price before upgrading. Usually, I don't keep cameras for long and treat the small loss I incur between buying and reselling as a lease. The OM-1 is definitely in my sights, but in a couple of years. Until then I'm content with my low shutter count E-M1 mk II.
Here, the OM-1 is about $3,200. With that money I could Buy four OM-D E-M1 Mark II on eBay. I have two of them, so let's set that aside. Or have Tin Can serviced, retyred and set off on a trip around Australia Take a cruise on a ship. What would the OM-1 add? Internal filters would be nice, I don't use filters but I have some ideas which require exposures of tens of minutes, so maybe. 100 megapixels hand-held would be nice.
Thanks for the reasoning... very correct , Peter... 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻 For me personally... , now it would even be suitable to acquire another body of the Olympus E-M1X ... , its price has dropped to almost half of what it was worth in 2019 when it was launched on the market... and with its the latest Firmware updates have improved performance and speed even more... , plenty for me... and in terms of Video, its features and benefits are also plenty for me... 👌🏻👍🏻 The E-M1X is a camera that has me in love... 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻💖💖 , even in low light it has amazing performance and speed... , and its grip and ergonomics are second to none... 👌🏻👍🏻🙌🏻 The best way to improve my images now I think is to invest in a higher quality lens... , which is easier with the money I save compared to the new OM-1 ... Greetings from Spain... 👋🏻🙋🏻♂
for me i think i will upgrade from my em1 mk ii because of the improved af system and improved iso performance. these are important for my sports (handball) and wildlife shooting. also the shutter on my em1 mk ii is over the count that it is guaranteed to work.
Nice video clip. Not just a question of Upgrading which suggests you get rid of the older model camera. More a question of the right tools for the job. Although I have an OM-1 on a pre order I will not get rid of my EM1 mark iii cameras. The EM1 mark iii cameras will still be excellent for me shooting flowers and fungi particularly for focus bracketing / stacking and my occasional street or building photos. But the OM-1 will almost definitely be used for moving animals, birds in flight and insects and specifically dragonfly in flight. However, I will probably not buy two OM-1 cameras as I have great shots of birds in flight and dragonfly in flight with my EM1 mark iii cameras. Hoping my OM-1 will arrive and my 150-400mm pro lens will be sorted out by OM Systems before Autumn. Already missed three overseas wildlife trips with the OM-1 and pro 150-400mm lens. Peace 😊😊
Fortunately I've become much more youtube resistant when it comes to buying gear. But we will see when the first camera will break...then I finally have a good reason again to go shopping... 😅
I have been using the E-M1 II and III the last few years, often together at gigs and often one with the 12-40mm f2.8 Pro and the other one with the 40-150 f2.8 Pro (or the 150-400 f4.5 Pro) and I'm still very happy with the image quality. I'm not using these cameras to shoot videos. And as you mentioned, it is so practical to have 2 cameras that are so much alike in handling when it comes to switching between cameras at a gig. So at this moment I am not feeling a strong urge to upgrade. Maybe next year this urge may have become stronger. :)
So do you think OM would come out with a high 40+ megapixel OM-1X? I know many don't think the megapixels matter much, but I am a wildlife and macro photographer and being able to crop in is a big deal when I can't get close enough to the subject. That being said, I recently sold my Sony A73 and bought the 25mm and 17mm f1.2. My advice to my students is that glass is many times more important than the camera. So I took my own advice, and the lenses really are fantastic! So go with the glass unless you really need the OM-1 Capabilities. And OM, if you are listening: 40+ megapixel OM-1X (I'd be happy with 24 frames per second)
I have no idea if there is going to be a 40+ Mpix OM-1X. If I had to guess I do not think they will make a camera with that amount of pixels in a near future. If there is someday going to be a totally new sensor technology then it could be possible.
You always repeat yourself with the same... 😱😂😂😂 I already have 80 Megapixels in my current E-M1X ... if I need them... (in fact I have 25 Mpxls. , 50 Mpxls. or 80 Mpxls. ) 🤔😂😂😁 Greetings
I really wish I had two identical cameras. I have not been able to afford to do that since the E1. And it was such a luxury to have them. Trouble is I do not make enough $$ to justify it.
I know it is luxury. I had two E-M1s and then I was able to have two E-M1 Mark IIs, but then a few years I was using two different cameras. Had one E-M1 Mark III and my second camera was E-M1 Mark II.
After the announcement of the OM-1, I made a pre-order right away. But the sea is still, they don't deliver. Since I have an EM1 mk III I decided to get a second system. So I bought the Sony A7 IV and can only say, wow. Image quality, colors, autofocus precision and speed, and the video capabilities are remarkable. But the system is heavy and expensive. Depending on what I do, I now use the systems which i guess is the better one and am very happy with that. I will no longer use my pre order for the OM-1. I am very dissatisfied with the information policy of OM-Systems regarding the delivery dates, yes I know everything is a bit more difficult at the moment, but you can still exspect an information in stead of simply not to deliver!
The discussion on having two camera bodies is actually a good idea. I constantly switch between a 300 mm and a 55mm and then of course must change the settings. Your idea makes a lot of sense,
I traded-in my (mostly) beloved EM-1x for an OM-1 almost three months ago. Given that I still haven’t received the damn thing, I’m frankly starting to regret it.
Michael - Perhaps you should have waited. If the M1x is the only camera you have, then you are not taking pictures. particularly if you are shooting wildlife as this is the busiest time of year. When the two guys in the factory have caught up making all the orders, the price may have dropped anyway.
It is possible to set up a E-M1 Mark III just like an OM-1 (e.g. easy access to HighRes mode via record button using one of the custom modes) So the handling can be made quite similar when having both cameras in use.
Excellent video Peter I bought a second-hand Olympus OM-D E-M1 around four years ago and absolutely love it. I have recently retired so now have more time to pursue my hobby. I use a battery grip most of the time and find the camera really comfortable to handle. I am planning to upgrade to a newer model in the line up. I am wondering whether to skip the OM-D EM-1 II and go straight for the OM-D E-M1 III or even the OM-D E-M1X Your thoughts would be most welcome,
I have these considerations now. I am new with Olympus and started with a used OM-D E-M1 (€299,-). I could have got a Mark II for the double, but decided to wait and see. Now I like it a lot and have already 4 lenses, including the 12-40 and 40-150 f/2.8 pro - I traded in two Nikon Z lenses. My main concern, I think, is ISO and dynamic range. I like to head out before sunrise in the morning, and I clearly see that my Nikon Z6 is better there. My plan was - if I like Olympus enough - to move away completely from Nikon Z and get a OM-D E-M1 Mark III. Of course now there is the OM-1 (which I did not really know about when I got the idea about Olympus). The price gap between the Mark III and OM-1 is quite big. I never shoot video, or the 0.1% video I shoot I do with my phone. So - if lowlight photography is the main criteria - should I go all the way to OM-1? (not now, but whenever economy allows me to).
OM-1 is better in low light than E-M1. To get the best out of low light you need to exposure to the right (ua-cam.com/play/PLDi4hF9-cy6gHucRXGhcdj6d45lsr4T0J.html). That will make the best possible image quality. Using DxO PureRAW or Topaz DeNoiseAi for noise reduction will also make a huge difference. To be honest full frame camera are better in low light. It is just pure physics.
@@ForsgardPeter No, it's for the Olympus OM-1 mark II. There is a firmware mod with version 3.4. Only works for the mark II. I know the camera only does 8 bit, but if you know what you're doing you can make wonderful videos, even in 8 bit. It will save users a lot of money by not upgrading to the OM System OM-1.
Rewatched this video as I’m considering an upgrade from EM5ii to OM1 or EM1iii. Been shooting a lot of football and basketball lately so AF and ISO performance are of interest. Thanks for the content!
Excellent point having two identical bodies which I did when I shot with Nikon. I'm still thinking about upgrading from my X and MKIII but I don't think it would make a significant improvement to my images. Also DxO Photolab does not support the OM-1 as yet, which is important for me. Thanks for a great video and it's making me rethink my decision.
Had a look at the older video (20 things…) and access to high res on EM1 II (& on the EM1 III) is faster via down button on arrow pad and 4 clicks to the right with the thumb wheel while pro capture low is only one click as my frame rate is set as low burst, so no need to go into menus; did they remove that feature on the OM1? Computational modes such as Live ND could be assigned to a button on the EM1 III. Can SSAF now be assigned to a button on the OM1?
Thanks from Marylands Eastern Shore Peter. I own A EM miii Your video answer my a question however I’m going to invest in a lens instead, zuiko 300 mm 4 IOS. I shoot birds at the Bombay Hook National Wildlife Refuge. Keep up the great work. Your Opinon is always of value. Rusty iron Mike
Well, I'm not someone who jumps on the latest whistle and bells, but, for your bird shooting, the OM1 might actually make sense, as it's a great improvement in that field, especially if you can sell the EM1 for a decent Price.
Central New York here. I have the 2,3 and M1X. Birds birds birds. I shoot almost exclusively the 300mm F4. Buy it ….in my humble opinion. Front dial changed to ISO, rear shutter speed.. RARELY change F stop from 4. 600mm effective that focuses fron QWERTY feet to infinity.. if they don’t land on my head I can focus on them in a heartbeat
If you had the chance to get 2 OMD EM1 Mark iii's or 1 OM-1, which would you pick? I know you have 2 OM-1s already but if you had that option, which would you get? I do and I. Getting more serious into client videos, commercial work.
If you plan to do professional work I recommend getting two E-M1 Mark III instead of one OM-1. Having a spare body can save your gig if something goes wrong with the camera.
Unfortunately the shortage of components is huge. Also the demand has been more than expected. Both of these things is hurting the manufacturing and delivery.
Peter, from your experience, is the shutter button of the OM1 better than that of the EM1 mark II? I use the latter, and I'm not at all happy with the shutter button: it is very hard to feel the difference between halfway and actually taking a picture.
Very good video I like the fact that you treat the Olympus/ Om Brands with respect unlike the other guys video he recently posted about the Om-1 he was very negative about the Om-1 , I will not mention his name . Thank you for an informative video now only if I can talk my wife into an Om-1 lol.
Yes but they didn’t treat him very well so he has a negative view, if you are happy you can work with anything and if your not you find fault with everything.
Peter, you mentioned that, as a professional you need to keep your gear current. I'd like to hear about that. For my clients (semipro) gear has never been an issue. Or are you referring to needing current gear to discuss with your viewers? The nice thing about being semipro (with an unrelated fulltime gig) and not being too visible is that I don't need current gear as long as I can produce good images.
It is not that clients care what the gear is. What I mean is that is the client going to befit from the results that the new camera can produce. In other words are there something that will make the end result better. The video H.265 for example. The client could not care less about the specs, but the end result looks better. That is what counts. UA-cam is one part of of my daily job and yes it is also something to consider. UA-cam videos alone is not a reason to buy, but it is one part of my work.
On professional photo jobs, do you use zooms or primes? I had 12-40 and 40-150, but in the rare occasions I go shoot for somebody (not getting paid, but more like a favor for a friend) I prefer to use primes at f/2 for being smaller and giving me faster SS. Especially indoors.
Hello, thanks for the tutorial. Could you tell me if the internal 1.4 teleconverter of the OM1 is pure digital or uses part of the sensor without resorting to the digital zoom system? Thank you very much
It makes digital zooming. When using .jpg it will give you the same resolution as without digital tele zoom. I have not really looked into that feature. I cannot say much about the image quality. It is something I need to look into and perhaps make a video about.
Upgrade for € 2,200.00. As long as my EM 1 lasts, I'll use it. Since I use fixed focal lengths and therefore FF is not significantly heavier, I am forced to switch to the larger format in terms of price. For example, a Nikon z 5 is only €1,400 and with the 40mm f2 for €300, this combo is still a lot cheaper. Not all photographers only shoot flying birds. 😀
There is one thing I wonder what is needed to handle 4K videos with 60 frames a second which the OM-1 has. I am thinking of the quality of the computer and software needed to handle this kind of data smooth and fast? I am a amateur and use a three year old 27 inch iMac with lots of RAM to upload my videos and pictures and it struggles a second or two with my RAW pictures from my OMD EM1 mark ii before they are shown sharp. So I am wondering what is the ideal computer and software to handle video and photos from late Olympus cameras?
@@ForsgardPeter I recall your video on the Mk II, Mk III, and the Em1 X. You were not motivated to move at that time based on the visual however, I knew that you are heavily into video work so your evolving logic only makes sense!! Thanks for the reply!
I upgraded from m1 mark ii to om-1 💪 no regrets 😁 or, I do miss an external charger though.! And, there's no Auto mode 😱😭😭😭😂🤣 I love the starry sky mode, which they choose to ignore for m1 mark ii and m1x.
Yes it's got some improvements but having now tested IQ it's very minimal at best and not enough to tell the difference .MFT is as good as it will get imo . the small sensor will always have limitations which you can't do anything about . OM imo will have to go FF to stay in business in the long term. There's already enough lenses so i don't really see how much further MFT can go.
Why is MFT a technological dead end, when other formats are not? I use a 24mp full frame camera when some are over 60mp. Panasonic have just brought out a 25.2 megapixel camera, so innovation continues.
Is it the end of the road for cell phone cameras with their sensors 1/10 the size of MFT? All over for them and no improvements coming?? How about FF, sure maybe another couple years and that format too is the end of the road, all over, put it back in the box??? Your logic is nonsensical. Peter's video describes specifically a slower improvement in cameras, not the end of improvements. If I can get my images appreciated by clients and published in quality publications, what more do you need?
I think small format (marketed as "full frame") sensor cameras have their limitations, end of the road, can they develop further, probably not. If you are telling a MFT company to go "FF" then why not just go digital medium format that make "full frame" just look "cropped" therein lies the future that the fool frames don't want to admit! (BTW very satisfied MFT shooter so I am not buying a Fujifilm GFX camera any time soon.)
It isn't necessary any longer to continually improve image quality. MFT quality is high enough for most needs. If you need more then go with full frame. If you need even more buy a Fujifilm G series, Hasselblad or whatever. Throughout the entire history of photography there has been a large selection of formats for different requirements in terms of both cost and quality. The APS sensor in Fujifilm X cameras is also a lot smaller than FF (although bigger than MFT) and nobody is predicting or baying for their demise. In fact Fujifilm is hugely successful and arguably OM System's main competitor.
35mm film cameras gained popularity with journalists not because of the image quality, but because the cameras were small and light weight and produced images that were good enough for newsprint. These same virtues were important to amateur photographers. M43 cameras produce images far superior to those of 35mm film cameras and have features far beyond what film cameras can do. As long as they stay small and light and keep up with advances in the technology, as well as having a price advantage over the larger formats, I think they will have a place in the market.
I got an E-M1 III & the battery grip. I won’t upgrade to the OM1 anytime soon. Here’s why: The image quality of the E-M1 III is 90% of what the OM1 offers. Maybe even more in most real world scenarios. It’s not considerably better, no matter how hard the fanboys try to sell it on social media. I’ve seen RAW files people have shared side by side, I looked at the files side by side. There is no “wow” here that justifies that kind of investment. While I think the new viewfinder is probably amazing, I have no particular issue with the E-M1 III viewfinder. Battery life seems to be greatly improved in the OM1, but it comes at a price: the new batteries are 50% more expensive, they’re incompatible with the previous models, you need a new battery grip which is also more expensive and not backwards compatible. In other words, even as a second body to an existing E-M1 III, buying an OM1 makes little sense as now you need to carry two sets of batteries, chargers, battery grips. I have no issues getting great pictures from the E-M1 III with pro-capture and the existing auto-focus capabilities. I don’t see a need to upgrade to the OM1 for that. The OM1 is expensive, considering the required investment into batteries and battery grip, that becomes even more expensive. You can get a refurbished E-M1 III for about half that price and you get 80% of the OM1, and buying another E-M1 III can share into your investments in batteries. The E-M1X is available in large quantities used for around $1.400 or less sometimes. When you consider the E-M1X comes with a grip, it’s more than $1,000 less expensive than the OM1 with a grip. The OM1 needs to come down by a couple of hundred of dollars before it becomes an interesting value proposition for me. At that point, I would probably replace rather than augment my existing E-M cameras with the OM1, so I only need one type of battery. It’ll be years before that happens.
Using 2 E-M1 II, I had already decided to skip the E-M1 III and wait for the new "wow" camera. Then it came out, I watched and read the reviews, saw the upgraded price and instead bought a used, but pristine E-M1 III from someone who had ordered the OM-1. The E-M1 III works fine for me along with the remaining E-M1 II, I have no problem with that (like I had earlier when using Pen-F and E-M1/II together). With the money that I saved, I bought a E-M5 III and still have some left over for a lens, once I find a space in my lens cupboard…
As a beginner who already has the EM1.2, and is considering the Pen-F, what was your trouble with that camera or that combination?
@@Sebror Both cameras are great! But the ergonomics are different. Starting from the old E-M5 I had gotten used to dial the exposure compensation on the right front dial. Having the histogram and over/under exposure warning in the viewfinder (see Peter's videos about that!) this works best for me. Unfortunately this is not possible with the Pen-F, which has a separate, but less convenient dial for that. Additionally, the whole button layout is different.
Meanwhile the price of a pre-owned E-M1 II has dropped below that of the Pen-F. Although the E-M1 II isn't such a beautiful item as the Pen-F, it has many advantages for photography, so that is my clear recommendation.
I upgraded from the OM-D E-M1 Mark II to the Mark III for the charging, joystick, Live ND and processor. I plan to hold on to this body for long time. I watch UA-cam videos that say you don't need to spend a lot for a decent camera and then they show you these great new features on the latest models. I felt that the Mark III has enough benefits that convinced me to upgrade. Great discussion about a topic that makes sense.
Thank you.
I have the EM1X, 2 of em. I have more than enough resolution and capabilities in these cameras for a LOOOOOONG time!
I've been using the EM5 Mark III, very happy with it.
I've been using the OM1, very content with it.
I'm sticking with what I have and just get better at my craft. Cheers!
I like your thinking!
I have a secondhand EM1 MK2 which cost me £500 with less than 1,000 shutter activations last year, the EM5 mk3 I bought brand new with a 14-150mm mk2 kit lens for £850, after trading in my EM10 MK3 dual lens kit for £400. The initial reason I got into photography was to take pictures at flower shows, unobtrusively taking around 700 to 800 pictures in less than 30 minutes at each show, without upsetting the judges.
Ambient room lighting is used. I don't go over 400 ISO so the camera's IBIS deals with the slow shutter speeds and exposure compensation gets the colours right.
Some of the plants are very difficult to portray properly when on a show bench (only judges are allowed to move plants) as they are surrounded by other exhibits, and some of the plants spread themselves around, encroaching on other exhibits. So still photographs can't really do some of them justice, as they get lost in competing plants.
I wanted to add videos, however after the judging which takes around 30 minutes the show is opened up to the general public. That means no large camera gear.
I settled on a DJI Pocket 2 and can even use it to provide a virtual tour of the branching stems of the larger plants. Only a couple of members of the public spotted the fact I was doing something and stopped me to ask. It will be interesting to see what the floral society members think of the videos.
What's the above got to do with the OM-1?
Well it's my reasoning why I will not be buying one until they either reach the £500 upgrade outlay, and/or my EM1 MK2/ EM5 MK3 breaks down. However, at around 20-25,000 photographs per year that could be many years. Then again by the time my existing cameras are no longer up to the job it could be that the OM-1 MK2, 3, 4 or even the successor to the OM-1 series will be available given a 2 yearly upgrade cycle from OM Systems.
There's always a newer something arriving, but you have to ask yourself, will it do the job noticeably better than what I've already got.
Unless I get into bird in flight photography..😀
I had a Canon 7D for several years, and then I upgraded to a Canon 7D Mark II. That was four or five years ago. So my recent purchase of an OM1 Mark III is not so much an upgrade as it is a total change of camera systems. I bought it yesterday, and I don't yet have it. My reasons for switching, and it does appear that it will be a serious upgrade for me, is that the Olympus 4:3 camera system promises to be much lighter and less bulky. Due to physical problems, reducing the weight and size of my camera gear may allow me to get out there and make phots again. The true test of whether this purchase will be worth it is if it gets me out there again. I have been away from photography for about 3 years, maybe a little more. A lot of the features of the Olympus camera sound very intriguing to me. So, I will let you know how it works out for me. THANK YOU for the very helpful videos. I have by no means watched them all.
Welcome onboard. If you have any issues or want to ask something do not hesitate to ask!
How did you go changing system after two years? Are you happy you made the change?
Just a few days ago i upgraded from my trusty em1 I, bought new late 2015, to a used em1 III. What a fantastic camera for around 1000€/$.
Sound guidance, Peter! I think it also helps to compare the cameras available today to the very best film cameras of the not-so-distant past and simply appreciate what we now have to work with. I loved my Canon F1n, but to think of all that my Olympus E-M1ii can do, it’s amazing. I’m more than happy for now, for my purposes, and I have the knowledge that the OM-1 is waiting for me whenever I may feel so inclined. It’s a wonderful time to enjoy photography!
Inspired by you and others like you here on UA-cam but in a different way, I have just upgraded my only camera I bought brand new 10 years ago. I am upgrading from an OMD Em5 mark 1 to a second hand hardly used OMD Em1 mark 2 and will perhaps upgrade to a second hand OM-1 much later as newer cameras are developed for my personal private hobby use. It will be a great joy for me to enjoy all the new features with my allmost new much more advanced camera.
I had the Mk2 before I switched to EM1X, that is an amazing camera, and thinking of another for my walk around gimbal work. Cheers!
I think an upgrade makes a lot of sense for wildlife photographers, especially for bird photography. The autofocus improvement in combination with artificial intelligence - tracking of eyes, etc., is very important. Tracking those animals with a rock solid autofocus is crucial. So, in my opinion this is one of the reasons to consider an upgrade, in addition of what you explained, Peter (video, speed, low light, better menu).
Thanks for the video, I just wish that the form factor, batteries and grip were compatible. If I do upgrade it will be to the EM-1 mk-3
I would buy the OMD OM1 if I could afford it (it is an excellent camera). Instead, I use an Olympus E-M1 Mark II (which is also a fine camera) which I bought used in mint condition from ebay. For professionals and enthusiasts with a large budget, it makes sense to buy the latest & greatest gear. For someone like me who uses their camera mostly for vacation photography not so much.
I may be the exception, but I don't like new gear. I'm not against new technology, or spending the money, it's just that I like to be instinctively familiar with menus, and know the camera controls by touch alone while looking through the viewfinder. A new camera can take weeks to get used to, and months to be completely familiar with. It's probably why shops do good business in older gear to even older professionals. They know the possibilities and limitations of a sensor, they know how to edit the output and don't need unnecessary distractions.
Fortunately (for manufacturers and camera shops) we are all different.
You're not alone! I totally agree with you!
@@juanjomadrigal7423 If a camera took good images a few years ago it will continue to take good images.
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@@martingreenberg870 I couldn't agree more, I think the same
I bought the OM-1 back in April and I’m really impressed! But I’m keeping the em1iii that I love also and it was the best and last “Olympus” Camera. The OM-5, released on October 2022, is smaller, but internally almost the same as the em1iii…. One more reason to keep the em1iii as a second Camera.
As an amateur, I tend to wait until good second hand models become available at a "fair" price before upgrading. Usually, I don't keep cameras for long and treat the small loss I incur between buying and reselling as a lease. The OM-1 is definitely in my sights, but in a couple of years. Until then I'm content with my low shutter count E-M1 mk II.
Glad to hear you don't have GAS, Peter! Good video, as always. Have a great weekend!
Here, the OM-1 is about $3,200. With that money I could
Buy four OM-D E-M1 Mark II on eBay. I have two of them, so let's set that aside.
Or have Tin Can serviced, retyred and set off on a trip around Australia
Take a cruise on a ship.
What would the OM-1 add? Internal filters would be nice, I don't use filters but I have some ideas which require exposures of tens of minutes, so maybe. 100 megapixels hand-held would be nice.
Thanks for the reasoning... very correct , Peter... 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
For me personally... , now it would even be suitable to acquire another body of the Olympus E-M1X ... , its price has dropped to almost half of what it was worth in 2019 when it was launched on the market... and with its the latest Firmware updates have improved performance and speed even more... , plenty for me... and in terms of Video, its features and benefits are also plenty for me... 👌🏻👍🏻
The E-M1X is a camera that has me in love... 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻💖💖 , even in low light it has amazing performance and speed... , and its grip and ergonomics are second to none... 👌🏻👍🏻🙌🏻
The best way to improve my images now I think is to invest in a higher quality lens... , which is easier with the money I save compared to the new OM-1 ...
Greetings from Spain... 👋🏻🙋🏻♂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree that investing in lenses is a better choice in many cases.
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for me i think i will upgrade from my em1 mk ii because of the improved af system and improved iso performance. these are important for my sports (handball) and wildlife shooting. also the shutter on my em1 mk ii is over the count that it is guaranteed to work.
Nice video clip. Not just a question of Upgrading which suggests you get rid of the older model camera. More a question of the right tools for the job. Although I have an OM-1 on a pre order I will not get rid of my EM1 mark iii cameras. The EM1 mark iii cameras will still be excellent for me shooting flowers and fungi particularly for focus bracketing / stacking and my occasional street or building photos. But the OM-1 will almost definitely be used for moving animals, birds in flight and insects and specifically dragonfly in flight. However, I will probably not buy two OM-1 cameras as I have great shots of birds in flight and dragonfly in flight with my EM1 mark iii cameras. Hoping my OM-1 will arrive and my 150-400mm pro lens will be sorted out by OM Systems before Autumn. Already missed three overseas wildlife trips with the OM-1 and pro 150-400mm lens. Peace 😊😊
Fortunately I've become much more youtube resistant when it comes to buying gear. But we will see when the first camera will break...then I finally have a good reason again to go shopping... 😅
I have been using the E-M1 II and III the last few years, often together at gigs and often one with the 12-40mm f2.8 Pro and the other one with the 40-150 f2.8 Pro (or the 150-400 f4.5 Pro) and I'm still very happy with the image quality. I'm not using these cameras to shoot videos. And as you mentioned, it is so practical to have 2 cameras that are so much alike in handling when it comes to switching between cameras at a gig. So at this moment I am not feeling a strong urge to upgrade. Maybe next year this urge may have become stronger. :)
So do you think OM would come out with a high 40+ megapixel OM-1X? I know many don't think the megapixels matter much, but I am a wildlife and macro photographer and being able to crop in is a big deal when I can't get close enough to the subject. That being said, I recently sold my Sony A73 and bought the 25mm and 17mm f1.2. My advice to my students is that glass is many times more important than the camera. So I took my own advice, and the lenses really are fantastic! So go with the glass unless you really need the OM-1 Capabilities. And OM, if you are listening: 40+ megapixel OM-1X (I'd be happy with 24 frames per second)
I have no idea if there is going to be a 40+ Mpix OM-1X. If I had to guess I do not think they will make a camera with that amount of pixels in a near future. If there is someday going to be a totally new sensor technology then it could be possible.
A 40MP OM-Something would be a lot more expensive than any current OM, so the money might be better spent on a longer lens.
You always repeat yourself with the same... 😱😂😂😂
I already have 80 Megapixels in my current E-M1X ... if I need them... (in fact I have 25 Mpxls. , 50 Mpxls. or 80 Mpxls. ) 🤔😂😂😁
Greetings
I really wish I had two identical cameras. I have not been able to afford to do that since the E1. And it was such a luxury to have them. Trouble is I do not make enough $$ to justify it.
I know it is luxury. I had two E-M1s and then I was able to have two E-M1 Mark IIs, but then a few years I was using two different cameras. Had one E-M1 Mark III and my second camera was E-M1 Mark II.
After the announcement of the OM-1, I made a pre-order right away. But the sea is still, they don't deliver.
Since I have an EM1 mk III I decided to get a second system.
So I bought the Sony A7 IV and can only say, wow. Image quality, colors, autofocus precision and speed, and the video capabilities are remarkable. But the system is heavy and expensive. Depending on what I do, I now use the systems which i guess is the better one and am very happy with that.
I will no longer use my pre order for the OM-1.
I am very dissatisfied with the information policy of OM-Systems regarding the delivery dates, yes I know everything is a bit more difficult at the moment, but you can still exspect an information in stead of simply not to deliver!
Sorry to hear that you have not gotten the OM-1. I hope you are happy with your Sony!
The discussion on having two camera bodies is actually a good idea. I constantly switch between a 300 mm and a 55mm and then of course must change the settings. Your idea makes a lot of sense,
I have 2 EM1Xs just for that reason.
@@ridealongwithrandy Nice!
I traded-in my (mostly) beloved EM-1x for an OM-1 almost three months ago. Given that I still haven’t received the damn thing, I’m frankly starting to regret it.
Michael - Perhaps you should have waited. If the M1x is the only camera you have, then you are not taking pictures. particularly if you are shooting wildlife as this is the busiest time of year. When the two guys in the factory have caught up making all the orders, the price may have dropped anyway.
I hope you get your camera soon.
Just bought a EM-1 mark III yesterday
Great! Have fun and enjoy photography.
It is possible to set up a E-M1 Mark III just like an OM-1 (e.g. easy access to HighRes mode via record button using one of the custom modes) So the handling can be made quite similar when having both cameras in use.
Some things coud be but the button lay out and the features are so different that I would say no.
Biggest issue now is availability, I ordered my OM-1 on March 1st and still nothing.
Very true but this applies to a lot of tech at the moment from many manufacturers.
They were swamped. Just read they are again taking orders in Europe and have started to ship to US. Chip shortage I imagine.. March 2 order here.
Yes, unfortunately there is a some delay in shipping. Most likely for two reasons, demand has been so huge and the is a shortage of components.
Excellent video Peter
I bought a second-hand Olympus OM-D E-M1 around four years ago and absolutely love it.
I have recently retired so now have more time to pursue my hobby.
I use a battery grip most of the time and find the camera really comfortable to handle.
I am planning to upgrade to a newer model in the line up.
I am wondering whether to skip the OM-D EM-1 II and go straight for the OM-D E-M1 III or even the OM-D E-M1X
Your thoughts would be most welcome,
Thank you.
I have these considerations now. I am new with Olympus and started with a used OM-D E-M1 (€299,-). I could have got a Mark II for the double, but decided to wait and see. Now I like it a lot and have already 4 lenses, including the 12-40 and 40-150 f/2.8 pro - I traded in two Nikon Z lenses.
My main concern, I think, is ISO and dynamic range. I like to head out before sunrise in the morning, and I clearly see that my Nikon Z6 is better there. My plan was - if I like Olympus enough - to move away completely from Nikon Z and get a OM-D E-M1 Mark III. Of course now there is the OM-1 (which I did not really know about when I got the idea about Olympus).
The price gap between the Mark III and OM-1 is quite big. I never shoot video, or the 0.1% video I shoot I do with my phone.
So - if lowlight photography is the main criteria - should I go all the way to OM-1? (not now, but whenever economy allows me to).
OM-1 is better in low light than E-M1. To get the best out of low light you need to exposure to the right (ua-cam.com/play/PLDi4hF9-cy6gHucRXGhcdj6d45lsr4T0J.html). That will make the best possible image quality. Using DxO PureRAW or Topaz DeNoiseAi for noise reduction will also make a huge difference. To be honest full frame camera are better in low light. It is just pure physics.
I am happy with the OM1 mark II, specially when I can record 4K UHT for up to 2:37 and 1080p for up to 5 hours, non stop.
Do you mean E-M1 mark II?
@@ForsgardPeter No, it's for the Olympus OM-1 mark II. There is a firmware mod with version 3.4. Only works for the mark II. I know the camera only does 8 bit, but if you know what you're doing you can make wonderful videos, even in 8 bit. It will save users a lot of money by not upgrading to the OM System OM-1.
Rewatched this video as I’m considering an upgrade from EM5ii to OM1 or EM1iii. Been shooting a lot of football and basketball lately so AF and ISO performance are of interest. Thanks for the content!
I would choose OM-1 for that purpose.
@@ForsgardPeter thank you!
Excellent point having two identical bodies which I did when I shot with Nikon. I'm still thinking about upgrading from my X and MKIII but I don't think it would make a significant improvement to my images. Also DxO Photolab does not support the OM-1 as yet, which is important for me. Thanks for a great video and it's making me rethink my decision.
I think PhotoLab 5 will updated in June. So we still have to wait a little while.
All perfectly logical decision parameters - but where is the fun in that! 😆
I should have just said that because I wanted it! 😀
Had a look at the older video (20 things…) and access to high res on EM1 II (& on the EM1 III) is faster via down button on arrow pad and 4 clicks to the right with the thumb wheel while pro capture low is only one click as my frame rate is set as low burst, so no need to go into menus; did they remove that feature on the OM1?
Computational modes such as Live ND could be assigned to a button on the EM1 III.
Can SSAF now be assigned to a button on the OM1?
Good tutorial
Trying to decide between em1 or om1.... Huge difference?
Thanks from Marylands Eastern Shore Peter. I own A EM miii Your video answer my a question however I’m going to invest in a lens instead, zuiko 300 mm 4 IOS. I shoot birds at the Bombay Hook National Wildlife Refuge. Keep up the great work. Your Opinon is always of value. Rusty iron Mike
Well, I'm not someone who jumps on the latest whistle and bells, but, for your bird shooting, the OM1 might actually make sense, as it's a great improvement in that field, especially if you can sell the EM1 for a decent Price.
Central New York here. I have the 2,3 and M1X. Birds birds birds. I shoot almost exclusively the 300mm F4. Buy it ….in my humble opinion. Front dial changed to ISO, rear shutter speed.. RARELY change F stop from 4. 600mm effective that focuses fron QWERTY feet to infinity.. if they don’t land on my head I can focus on them in a heartbeat
If you had the chance to get 2 OMD EM1 Mark iii's or 1 OM-1, which would you pick? I know you have 2 OM-1s already but if you had that option, which would you get? I do and I. Getting more serious into client videos, commercial work.
If you plan to do professional work I recommend getting two E-M1 Mark III instead of one OM-1. Having a spare body can save your gig if something goes wrong with the camera.
I would consider getting the OM-1 if it were available anywhere on the planet…
Unfortunately the shortage of components is huge. Also the demand has been more than expected. Both of these things is hurting the manufacturing and delivery.
Peter, from your experience, is the shutter button of the OM1 better than that of the EM1 mark II? I use the latter, and I'm not at all happy with the shutter button: it is very hard to feel the difference between halfway and actually taking a picture.
I have to test it. It is a long time since I used E-M1 Mark II.
Very good video I like the fact that you treat the Olympus/ Om Brands with respect unlike the other guys video he recently posted about the Om-1 he was very negative about the Om-1 , I will not mention his name . Thank you for an informative video now only if I can talk my wife into an Om-1 lol.
Yes but they didn’t treat him very well so he has a negative view, if you are happy you can work with anything and if your not you find fault with everything.
Thanks John.
I want the iii, but does it have the new clear evf like em10 vi?
The em1 ii has that purple tint when in dim lighting
I never had any problem with the EVF on my E-M1 Mark III.
Peter, you mentioned that, as a professional you need to keep your gear current.
I'd like to hear about that. For my clients (semipro) gear has never been an issue.
Or are you referring to needing current gear to discuss with your viewers?
The nice thing about being semipro (with an unrelated fulltime gig) and not being too visible is that I don't need current gear as long as I can produce good images.
It is not that clients care what the gear is. What I mean is that is the client going to befit from the results that the new camera can produce. In other words are there something that will make the end result better. The video H.265 for example. The client could not care less about the specs, but the end result looks better. That is what counts.
UA-cam is one part of of my daily job and yes it is also something to consider. UA-cam videos alone is not a reason to buy, but it is one part of my work.
On professional photo jobs, do you use zooms or primes? I had 12-40 and 40-150, but in the rare occasions I go shoot for somebody (not getting paid, but more like a favor for a friend) I prefer to use primes at f/2 for being smaller and giving me faster SS. Especially indoors.
I use zooms quite a lot. The two lenses that you mentioned I use a lot. I always also have a 25mm f1.2 with me. Sometimes a 45mm f1.2.
Hello, thanks for the tutorial. Could you tell me if the internal 1.4 teleconverter of the OM1 is pure digital or uses part of the sensor without resorting to the digital zoom system?
Thank you very much
It makes digital zooming. When using .jpg it will give you the same resolution as without digital tele zoom. I have not really looked into that feature. I cannot say much about the image quality. It is something I need to look into and perhaps make a video about.
Ok, and in video how will it work? Thanks
Upgrade for € 2,200.00. As long as my EM 1 lasts, I'll use it. Since I use fixed focal lengths and therefore FF is not significantly heavier, I am forced to switch to the larger format in terms of price. For example, a Nikon z 5 is only €1,400 and with the 40mm f2 for €300, this combo is still a lot cheaper. Not all photographers only shoot flying birds. 😀
There is one thing I wonder what is needed to handle 4K videos with 60 frames a second which the OM-1 has. I am thinking of the quality of the computer and software needed to handle this kind of data smooth and fast? I am a amateur and use a three year old 27 inch iMac with lots of RAM to upload my videos and pictures and it struggles a second or two with my RAW pictures from my OMD EM1 mark ii before they are shown sharp. So I am wondering what is the ideal computer and software to handle video and photos from late Olympus cameras?
I have a iMac Pro (2017) and it works ok. For video editing I use the proxy workflow.
@@ForsgardPeter Thank you Mr. Forsgård for you reply.
Peter..Do you use a Gimbal for videos ?
Not very often. The IBIS works really well on Olympus and OM SYSTEM cameras.
Same lens, same landscape..., is the EM1 mk ii that less of a result vs. OM-1,
in a great shot?
If we take an individual image the difference might not be that big, but over all performance is much better with OM-1.
@@ForsgardPeter I recall your video on the Mk II, Mk III, and the Em1 X. You were not motivated to move at that time based on the visual however, I knew that you are heavily into video work so your evolving logic only makes sense!! Thanks for the reply!
I upgraded from m1 mark ii to om-1 💪 no regrets 😁 or, I do miss an external charger though.!
And, there's no Auto mode 😱😭😭😭😂🤣 I love the starry sky mode, which they choose to ignore for m1 mark ii and m1x.
You really didn't give any concrete reasons to upgrade at all. No technical comparisons or advantages of the MK III over the II.
Everyone as to decide themselves. OM-1 is a much better camera that E-M1 MKIII and MKII, but does it matter, is up to everyone themselves.
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Yes it's got some improvements but having now tested IQ it's very minimal at best and not enough to tell the difference .MFT is as good as it will get imo . the small sensor will always have limitations which you can't do anything about . OM imo will have to go FF to stay in business in the long term. There's already enough lenses so i don't really see how much further MFT can go.
Why is MFT a technological dead end, when other formats are not? I use a 24mp full frame camera when some are over 60mp. Panasonic have just brought out a 25.2 megapixel camera, so innovation continues.
Is it the end of the road for cell phone cameras with their sensors 1/10 the size of MFT? All over for them and no improvements coming?? How about FF, sure maybe another couple years and that format too is the end of the road, all over, put it back in the box??? Your logic is nonsensical. Peter's video describes specifically a slower improvement in cameras, not the end of improvements. If I can get my images appreciated by clients and published in quality publications, what more do you need?
I think small format (marketed as "full frame") sensor cameras have their limitations, end of the road, can they develop further, probably not. If you are telling a MFT company to go "FF" then why not just go digital medium format that make "full frame" just look "cropped" therein lies the future that the fool frames don't want to admit! (BTW very satisfied MFT shooter so I am not buying a Fujifilm GFX camera any time soon.)
It isn't necessary any longer to continually improve image quality. MFT quality is high enough for most needs. If you need more then go with full frame. If you need even more buy a Fujifilm G series, Hasselblad or whatever.
Throughout the entire history of photography there has been a large selection of formats for different requirements in terms of both cost and quality. The APS sensor in Fujifilm X cameras is also a lot smaller than FF (although bigger than MFT) and nobody is predicting or baying for their demise. In fact Fujifilm is hugely successful and arguably OM System's main competitor.
35mm film cameras gained popularity with journalists not because of the image quality, but because the cameras were small and light weight and produced images that were good enough for newsprint. These same virtues were important to amateur photographers. M43 cameras produce images far superior to those of 35mm film cameras and have features far beyond what film cameras can do. As long as they stay small and light and keep up with advances in the technology, as well as having a price advantage over the larger formats, I think they will have a place in the market.
I got an E-M1 III & the battery grip. I won’t upgrade to the OM1 anytime soon. Here’s why:
The image quality of the E-M1 III is 90% of what the OM1 offers. Maybe even more in most real world scenarios. It’s not considerably better, no matter how hard the fanboys try to sell it on social media. I’ve seen RAW files people have shared side by side, I looked at the files side by side. There is no “wow” here that justifies that kind of investment.
While I think the new viewfinder is probably amazing, I have no particular issue with the E-M1 III viewfinder.
Battery life seems to be greatly improved in the OM1, but it comes at a price: the new batteries are 50% more expensive, they’re incompatible with the previous models, you need a new battery grip which is also more expensive and not backwards compatible. In other words, even as a second body to an existing E-M1 III, buying an OM1 makes little sense as now you need to carry two sets of batteries, chargers, battery grips.
I have no issues getting great pictures from the E-M1 III with pro-capture and the existing auto-focus capabilities. I don’t see a need to upgrade to the OM1 for that.
The OM1 is expensive, considering the required investment into batteries and battery grip, that becomes even more expensive. You can get a refurbished E-M1 III for about half that price and you get 80% of the OM1, and buying another E-M1 III can share into your investments in batteries. The E-M1X is available in large quantities used for around $1.400 or less sometimes. When you consider the E-M1X comes with a grip, it’s more than $1,000 less expensive than the OM1 with a grip.
The OM1 needs to come down by a couple of hundred of dollars before it becomes an interesting value proposition for me. At that point, I would probably replace rather than augment my existing E-M cameras with the OM1, so I only need one type of battery. It’ll be years before that happens.
I’ve just unsubribed. You’ve become unrelavent. So you got to acquire your new gear on the cheap and your video. Your a hypocrite.
Sorry to see you go. What has changed since I started? As a Visionary I was able to use the gear for free. As an OM SYSTEM Ambassador I buy them.
I hate OLYMPUS Harsh colors for video
I think the video looks fine, but to each their own.
Poor guy, he seems so depressed that I suggest he change jobs: a psychologist who wants you well!
Who is?
@@ForsgardPeter you
@@ForsgardPeter a psychologist who wants you well
You are a an online doctor?
@@ForsgardPeter I suggest you ....lopram I am not allowed to prescribe on the internet😉