I would argue that endurance makes one harder to kill than strength. In Jiu Jitsu class, the big powerful guys usually run out of gas quickly and then it's like tapping out a child. I am a big dude, but I have spent a lot of time on speed and endurance.
I strongly agree. especially speed is a key factor since even you are the stronger one if you are not quick enough to produce that force someone who is less stronger can make you end i a situation that strength can no longer make you protect yourself.
I agree if combat was timed to be 30 seconds id rather be stronger and more explosive all day. Id train powerlifts and sprints. But the problem is combat is longer than 30 seconds and you arent gonna be able to keep up that power for long. This is because theres only 24 hours in a day and to be strong means youre putting more time into lifting than stamina. Its like putting more points in one area on a video game and neglecting thr others.
Endurance only starts to play a role once one combatant starts to tire, and if one is significantly stronger than the other and is competently skilled he will come out on top.
@@youngrody2386 Ask any fighter what is more important, a one rep max, or endurance. They will all tell you it's endurance. Like the Great Vince Lombardi said. "Fatigue makes cowards of us all".
As a philosophy geek I absolutely love this video. Someone actually defining something clearly rather than using nebulous terms is a breath of fresh air.
For some reason I got obssed with strength, I wanna be able to lift heavy things, run long distances, Do things that for an average person would be hard
There are guys at my gym who can easily squat, deadlift, and leg press much more than me. But they cannot walk up and down hills with me for 8-9 miles, 200+ floors, for 2 hours. So who is stronger?
Those guys. You are conflating strength & muscular endurance / aerobic conditioning. You have better muscular endurance and aerobic conditioning, they are stronger.
@@BarbellLogic respectfully I disagree. The definition of strength also includes “capacity for exertion OR endurance”. Just like intelligence, with “strength” you can be better than others in certain aspects, but it all still takes strength. I think it’s better to say I’m stronger than you in this particular way, but you are stronger than me in this way.
I just want to build strength, I’ve been training for the last 6 months mostly with the 5 compound exercises and adding other free weights and so far it has work really good. Want to be able to do pull ups and some monkey bars. What you recommend I add to my routine?
@@BarbellLogic I understand that force production is the quantitative scientific definition of what strength is. What i am interested to know is was your view on strength measurement targets are. Is it better to be heavier and lift more or be lighter but have a bigger relative strength? eg bodyweight of 70kg and can squat 160kg vs bodyweight of 100kg and can squat 170kg
I disagree with this definition as its too narrow. What about strength endurance, being able to do 225 for 10 is still a show of strength, just not maximal strength
It's a different attribute. Plus, there is carryover from hign-intensity efforts (both for conditioning and for force production) that does not occur if you spend time with low intensity efforts.@@markl4730
Why not? There's lots of components in our human body. Just using force production as the definition of strength is misleading. Human body needs reaction, mobility, speed, good motor control etc. Not just output numbers. We are not machine.
Neither reaction, mobility, speed, nor motor control are strength. We did not say other physical abilities do not matter. We DO believe that strength is the most important.
Thanks coaches, for answering Wei Lin's question. I'm not sure if he was just being argumentive or not. His question, along with your answer gave, me some insight I've been looking for. Wei Lin, thank you for your inquiry too.
This is still wrong, there's no such thing as being "strong in general", it's always in a context of a specific movement. What if the person who can only squat 200 lbs can beat the 400 lbs squatter in an arm-wrestling match? Who's "stronger"? This question makes no sense. Your discussion of "skills tied to strength" is confused, since there is absolutely, positively, no such thing as strength untied from a movement/skill.
@@BarbellLogic Thanks, my training is going great. Understanding that "strength" really is a repository of different skills helps me conceptualize what I'm doing. It's important to have precise barbell logic.
We are talking about physical strength. A word can have multiple meanings, and we (as strength coaches) are defining it in the realm of the physical. This is why dictionaries have multiple definitions.
@@BarbellLogic that is something that is smart to mention especially when the title of the video is the real definition of strength which implies that the definition is final, complete or the best definition.
So the 300lb person who squats 400lb is stronger [etc] than the 120lb person who squats 200lb? I can tell you which of the two is most likely the healthier, more professionally productive, and going to live longer. Hint: it's not the person who meets your definition of stronger. Numbers are meaningless without context, and these days, people mostly kill themselves through their lifestyle choices. Your resting heart rate, your blood pressure, and more matter greatly -- not just how much you can squat. Big dudes will always have the potential to squat or press more. Good luck if you think that's all that matters.
In this video Matt makes the case for each person increasing their strength. You are arguing with some other video I think. Nothing was said about 300 pound body weight, big dudes, neglecting blood pressure or anything else you represent in your comment. Most people need to be stronger. We stand by that.
Arguing against strawmen is fun, isn't it? The better question is what's better, a 300 lb guy who squats 100 or a 300 lb guy who squats 400? Ceteris parabis, stronger is better and you don't need to become fat or unhealthy to become A LOT stronger. In real life, the 300 lb guy who starts strength training probably can't even squat his own bodyweight and a year later will weigh 270, have lost 5 inches off his waist, and squat 400. At the super heavyweight level of competitive lifting - which is only representative of a very small % of competitive lifting - there is some unhealthy behavior, but that's because those people have purposely chosen to place other priorities over health and longevity: just as those who play pro football, are high level climbers, or who join the special forces do. Doesn't have anything to do with the capacity of everyone in the world to get much stronger, without becoming fat or unhealthy in any way, but on the contrary, becoming much healthier in the process.
Yes, the person producing the most force is the strongest regardless of how much they weigh.... and he didn't say that was all that matters, dumbass. Let me guess, you're 135 lbs, skinny as fuck and insecure about it? That sensitivity has to come from somewhere
every thing with political semantic is strength, well that's almost no one, last I checked. See Conor interview where he pounces some Irishman in his homeland and a pub for passing on his wife. WELL, that's better than extinction.
*Maximal Strength is Not the greatest of physical abilities or a better phrase is Physical Attribute. *If that was the case then Men with the biggest bench & squat would be dominating boxing, muay thai & mma & that is not the case whatsoever. *Maximal Strength plays a role in combat sports but it is not even top 3 most important Physical Attributes for combat sports. *I reject the notion that a man with a 500 lbs or greater bench is somehow harder to kill than a skilled thai fighter & skilled jiu jitsu practitioner that benches 225 lbs. *Put this guy in the cage & on a jiu jitsu mat & he would stop this foolishness talk.
@@riccardozorn1822 Hey dummy, he said heavy lifters are harder to kill, which includes combat dumb dumb. Stick to what you know, protein shakes & pre-workout drinks. Only a dumb testosterone user would think powerlifters/bodybuilders are harder to kill than acutal pro fighters 😂 Beyond asinine
Man, you must be a sensitive little guy to be so insecure that you get defensive over somebody talking about strength and size and their application to the videos topic. And you're completely warping what the point of the video was and what he said.... and yes strength absolutely is top 3 for combat sports. The only things more important are endurance and reach. He never said strength was the only thing that mattered. Every other stupid thing you said was just as out of context and, in many cases, downright untrue. Let me guess... You're a skinny white dude
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I would argue that endurance makes one harder to kill than strength. In Jiu Jitsu class, the big powerful guys usually run out of gas quickly and then it's like tapping out a child. I am a big dude, but I have spent a lot of time on speed and endurance.
I strongly agree. especially speed is a key factor since even you are the stronger one if you are not quick enough to produce that force someone who is less stronger can make you end i a situation that strength can no longer make you protect yourself.
I agree if combat was timed to be 30 seconds id rather be stronger and more explosive all day. Id train powerlifts and sprints. But the problem is combat is longer than 30 seconds and you arent gonna be able to keep up that power for long. This is because theres only 24 hours in a day and to be strong means youre putting more time into lifting than stamina. Its like putting more points in one area on a video game and neglecting thr others.
Endurance only starts to play a role once one combatant starts to tire, and if one is significantly stronger than the other and is competently skilled he will come out on top.
@@youngrody2386 Ask any fighter what is more important, a one rep max, or endurance. They will all tell you it's endurance. Like the Great Vince Lombardi said. "Fatigue makes cowards of us all".
Big and powerful doesn’t mean you don’t have endurance…
As a philosophy geek I absolutely love this video. Someone actually defining something clearly rather than using nebulous terms is a breath of fresh air.
Thanks.
For some reason I got obssed with strength, I wanna be able to lift heavy things, run long distances, Do things that for an average person would be hard
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Strength means a person is harder to kill to an extent. A person needs a source of energy as well.
Deadlift, squat and leg press are my primary strength exercises almost everyday.
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There are guys at my gym who can easily squat, deadlift, and leg press much more than me. But they cannot walk up and down hills with me for 8-9 miles, 200+ floors, for 2 hours. So who is stronger?
Those guys. You are conflating strength & muscular endurance / aerobic conditioning. You have better muscular endurance and aerobic conditioning, they are stronger.
@@BarbellLogic I know what you mean but, don’t you also have to be strong to have endurance?
@@fredericklockard3854 Some level of strength, but no, someone who just does super long distance events will not be that strong
@@fredericklockard3854 Still way better than doing nothing
@@BarbellLogic respectfully I disagree. The definition of strength also includes “capacity for exertion OR endurance”. Just like intelligence, with “strength” you can be better than others in certain aspects, but it all still takes strength. I think it’s better to say I’m stronger than you in this particular way, but you are stronger than me in this way.
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I just want to build strength, I’ve been training for the last 6 months mostly with the 5 compound exercises and adding other free weights and so far it has work really good. Want to be able to do pull ups and some monkey bars. What you recommend I add to my routine?
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if i weight 70 kg and squat 100 kg im stronger than someone who weights 90 kg and squat 100kg ??
No, though you are stronger per pound of bodyweight (so more advanced).
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@@BarbellLogic what terms should I google? Do you have a name?
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What do you think would be a better focus, absolute or relative strength? and where would you say isometric strength fits in?
Strength is the ability to produce force. That’s all.
@@BarbellLogic I understand that force production is the quantitative scientific definition of what strength is.
What i am interested to know is was your view on strength measurement targets are. Is it better to be heavier and lift more or be lighter but have a bigger relative strength? eg bodyweight of 70kg and can squat 160kg vs bodyweight of 100kg and can squat 170kg
Our stance is that people need to eat and do LP.
@@BarbellLogic I assume by LP you are talking about the starting strength linear progression. This is the first video i have seen from your channel.
That's right. We have our clients eat for performance and run LP. AFTER THAT, we'll assess goals together.
what is power?
strength applied quickly
Technically, in physics, in work over change in time.
I disagree with this definition as its too narrow. What about strength endurance, being able to do 225 for 10 is still a show of strength, just not maximal strength
That's a different attribute. There are different attributes. 225 x 10 requires some degree of strength but also some muscular endurance.
@@BarbellLogic why is maximal strength seen as special then? Isnt strength endurance a form of strength
It's a different attribute. Plus, there is carryover from hign-intensity efforts (both for conditioning and for force production) that does not occur if you spend time with low intensity efforts.@@markl4730
There's lots of definition of strength in the dictionary not just force production.
Not for the purpose of this video.
Why not? There's lots of components in our human body. Just using force production as the definition of strength is misleading. Human body needs reaction, mobility, speed, good motor control etc. Not just output numbers. We are not machine.
Biological systems are deterministic systems. Known inputs can produce predictable outputs. We train for force production.
Neither reaction, mobility, speed, nor motor control are strength. We did not say other physical abilities do not matter. We DO believe that strength is the most important.
Thanks coaches, for answering Wei Lin's question. I'm not sure if he was just being argumentive or not. His question, along with your answer gave, me some insight I've been looking for. Wei Lin, thank you for your inquiry too.
This is still wrong, there's no such thing as being "strong in general", it's always in a context of a specific movement. What if the person who can only squat 200 lbs can beat the 400 lbs squatter in an arm-wrestling match? Who's "stronger"? This question makes no sense. Your discussion of "skills tied to strength" is confused, since there is absolutely, positively, no such thing as strength untied from a movement/skill.
Good luck with your training.
@@BarbellLogic Thanks, my training is going great. Understanding that "strength" really is a repository of different skills helps me conceptualize what I'm doing. It's important to have precise barbell logic.
this is not a good definition. the definition shown at the start of the video was better because it included mental strength and other things
We are talking about physical strength. A word can have multiple meanings, and we (as strength coaches) are defining it in the realm of the physical. This is why dictionaries have multiple definitions.
@@BarbellLogic that is something that is smart to mention especially when the title of the video is the real definition of strength which implies that the definition is final, complete or the best definition.
@@AkseliHuusko-md5th We wish you the best of luck with your training
500 lb. bench press is STRONG..it does nothing.
So the 300lb person who squats 400lb is stronger [etc] than the 120lb person who squats 200lb? I can tell you which of the two is most likely the healthier, more professionally productive, and going to live longer. Hint: it's not the person who meets your definition of stronger. Numbers are meaningless without context, and these days, people mostly kill themselves through their lifestyle choices. Your resting heart rate, your blood pressure, and more matter greatly -- not just how much you can squat. Big dudes will always have the potential to squat or press more. Good luck if you think that's all that matters.
In this video Matt makes the case for each person increasing their strength. You are arguing with some other video I think. Nothing was said about 300 pound body weight, big dudes, neglecting blood pressure or anything else you represent in your comment.
Most people need to be stronger. We stand by that.
Arguing against strawmen is fun, isn't it? The better question is what's better, a 300 lb guy who squats 100 or a 300 lb guy who squats 400? Ceteris parabis, stronger is better and you don't need to become fat or unhealthy to become A LOT stronger. In real life, the 300 lb guy who starts strength training probably can't even squat his own bodyweight and a year later will weigh 270, have lost 5 inches off his waist, and squat 400. At the super heavyweight level of competitive lifting - which is only representative of a very small % of competitive lifting - there is some unhealthy behavior, but that's because those people have purposely chosen to place other priorities over health and longevity: just as those who play pro football, are high level climbers, or who join the special forces do. Doesn't have anything to do with the capacity of everyone in the world to get much stronger, without becoming fat or unhealthy in any way, but on the contrary, becoming much healthier in the process.
Yes, the person producing the most force is the strongest regardless of how much they weigh.... and he didn't say that was all that matters, dumbass.
Let me guess, you're 135 lbs, skinny as fuck and insecure about it? That sensitivity has to come from somewhere
every thing with political semantic is strength, well that's almost no one, last I checked. See Conor interview where he pounces some Irishman in his homeland and a pub for passing on his wife. WELL, that's better than extinction.
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*Maximal Strength is Not the greatest of physical abilities or a better phrase is Physical Attribute.
*If that was the case then Men with the biggest bench & squat would be dominating boxing, muay thai & mma & that is not the case whatsoever.
*Maximal Strength plays a role in combat sports but it is not even top 3 most important Physical Attributes for combat sports.
*I reject the notion that a man with a 500 lbs or greater bench is somehow harder to kill than a skilled thai fighter & skilled jiu jitsu practitioner that benches 225 lbs.
*Put this guy in the cage & on a jiu jitsu mat & he would stop this foolishness talk.
Good luck
This video is about physical strength. The name of the channel is Barbell Logic. Use your brain...
@@riccardozorn1822
Hey dummy, he said heavy lifters are harder to kill, which includes combat dumb dumb.
Stick to what you know, protein shakes & pre-workout drinks.
Only a dumb testosterone user would think powerlifters/bodybuilders are harder to kill than acutal pro fighters 😂
Beyond asinine
Man, you must be a sensitive little guy to be so insecure that you get defensive over somebody talking about strength and size and their application to the videos topic.
And you're completely warping what the point of the video was and what he said.... and yes strength absolutely is top 3 for combat sports. The only things more important are endurance and reach.
He never said strength was the only thing that mattered. Every other stupid thing you said was just as out of context and, in many cases, downright untrue.
Let me guess... You're a skinny white dude
There is difference between fighting and strength.. goofy comment
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