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My friend married his former student from a university in ChiangRai. She is a good lady, not interested in money. Keep in mind he did help pay her tuition during college. They now have 3 kids super happy! Cheers.
I think its the same for China and maybe Japan... I suggest for men to get a good wigg, get surgery on their jaw, a muscle suit... Be good at humor, and talk to 3-5 girls at teh same time and never commit to any one.
This is my input from having dated 4 Thai women over the past 5 years. Thailand is a developing country. Money is hard to make there. Thai dating/marriage isn't the same as in the west. Women there will prioritize financial security above love and expects that you'll be able to help her and her family. She'll love you with the condition you can provide. This is as raw as male and female nature gets. Asians value collectivism and westerns sometimes confuses that with greed. Above all, vet your partner properly. It doesn't matter where you find a woman because a bad one will always make your life miserable. I hear many bad farang stories but it's mostly because the man vetted poorly.
Simps and sex tourists will always get took for a ride. I am a handsome man green eyes white skin man 37 aging like wine I tick all boxes for farang. The most recent English lady hit alarm bells off the bat. Guy told me to not see her again and I was right. I dated 3 Thai girls over 3 nights and picked the best one. Not the best looking one . This Thai lady I’ve just dated for a week hasn’t give me one bad gut instinct feeling. I am now going to vet her wisely before returning in December to spend 3 weeks with her. I embraced her culture religion and food. She is very religious and I love that. She said blessings at buddah for my family really touched my soul. She even took me out the last night for a sunset dinner paid for everything to try to prove to me it’s not the money. She has genuine burning desire if iyou aren’t aware guys you must learn what this is. Crucial. she’s so turned on by me it’s insane. I will never comprise myself with her. Have no interest in narcissistic English woman anymore. But willing to see where it goes with Thai lady . I say we can only be friends at this point, shit tested her twice she’s ticking every box. My biggest worry is she is absolutely a 10 Thai men stare everywhere we went. But like I said I am quite blessed being handsome. My first time to Thailand I can move out there at 50. But give me the kick up the bum to earn more money and go live a beautiful life out there . England has nothing to offer me
Hello na-ling you so handsome...Little does the non-Thai speaking farang realize that na-ling translates as "monkey face". All in good fun, or at least 50% fun 555
Last year when I was travelling, I had a Thai girlfriend and a Filipina girlfriend, both in their early 30’s. I found there to be differences between them. Like the man said, the Thai lady was basically being pimped off by her mother, and the lady was a want monster, who was always ungrateful, demanding and manipulative. She was also a lot of fun and very beautiful. When I returned to England I could see that her only motivation was money, and she was quick to anger if I questioned her about ethics. On the other hand, the Filipina, who I have been in contact with for a few years now, is very loving and caring, and cautious with her money and mine . She seems like simple and decent woman, as do most of the rest of her family. She was very happy to spend time with me and was not at all manipulative.
its true what you say about the thai women, with filipinas its a hit or miss, my experience with filipines you have some that believe in education and hard work, possess western type values and christianity, so generally they are open minded, can love and respect their man, but you do have the other side much like we see in parts of thailand. i think of returning to PH to retire there, instead, but the infrastructure here is good, i may also try latin america... thx
I kinda see that pattern. I would dare say that mountain tribe Thais seem to be kinder or more faithful. Your mileage may vary. Yes they do look good and dress well and blend in with Thais. Of course they can also be scandalous. Sometimes you can't tell that they are from the mountains.
In Thailand if you are not Thai and you do not speak Thai they look down on you and think you're a moron. In Philippines if you are a native English speaker they hold you in high regard because they value the ability to speak English well.
@@sdickinson5234 that’s a good point. Sometimes in Thailand I feel like the people are blatantly talking about me, knowing I cannot understand. Hopefully I’m not paranoid 😂
you get accused of something and abused, my ex blames me for every failed relationship she has had in 8 yrs, as i left her so she had no choice but to be with them
I think this is one of the best videos you've made to date. I really appreciate the layout of expectations and the way to handle them. If you don't stand for yourself, most of these women in the name of family will run over you like a freight train. When you have nothing left to give, you'll be thrown out to the street like yesterday's newspaper. Not a care in the world what happens to you. They just think it's not my problem, and he was stupid enough to give away the money.
Great story from Doug, mindset born from poverty is absolutely spot on. Lots of parents mindsets are that they gave birth to you, so you owe them a lifetime financially, but it is not only aimed at foreigners, it is any man that gets involved with their daughter, the money is never enough, if you gave $1M they would want $2M etc, most of these parents have terrible gambling habits + whiskey + debt
Such a horrible culture, this culture was tradition in China but there are many many people that are criticizing it at least, I don't think Thai people have the personality or intelligence to criticize the traditional culture.
As I am Thai and northeastern people, northeastern blood, whose parents are diligent farmers. You say about the end. Some people may be like that, but for me, I understand foreigners who live in Thailand, explain today. It's not over, as we've heard.On one side, everyone has different ways of life. To be a poor person, but the dignity of being a Thai woman is always valuable, in addition to losing that you meet bad women with you, you may be unfortunate. All foreigners come here.Considered to be a relative to take care of your safety in Thailand. Smile. Sharing is always. I mean my family and myself, even if you are not a rich person here. human There must be good and bad people. Anyway, it's an encouragement to people who are fighting with a partner who is in a good relationship.i have shared your video from my boyfriend who is english he shared it to me then i found your video he thanks you because that is vaccine for him all smart thoughts and actions but everyone will in the middle so that there How can love go on? The power of love is real. I wish you good luck. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Best submitted commentary by far, IMO. I was doing my taxes (FJB!) while listing so I may have missed it but the other aspect not mentioned is that all the mental/relationship issues are propped up and fueled by alcohol and drugs as well.
image over substance absolutely because there isn't a whole lot of substance in society. (exceptions duly noted and some great people i know) that also agree with aforementioned.
A good test is to leave cash money around the house, in a way that it would seem that you won't be able to tell the amount if some was missing. Leave the money in different places at different times, in different ways (but don't make it too obvious that it's a trap), after a few weeks of doing so count the money to see if anything's missing. Most of the time some will be missing.
lol its mad to think i have no interest in a western women anymore, but i would not feel the need to do that ... but as my preference is now women from s/e Asia its a shame that i feel like i will have to put this to the test.
You guys are dumb Obviously money is a concern but setting traps is tempting the devil just be normal and see what they do and ask for or what happens when you say no Eg: walk past a gold shop say you want something 🤷🏿♀️ go to the worst restaurant and order bad food see if they care if you wasted your money 🤷🏿♀️
Hi Dan. I watch all of your videos and always look forward to new ones. It seems that this channel and all involved are participating in a huge and tangled mystery. The mystery of understanding Thai society and culture with regards to relationships. It's really fascinating and also quite frustrating. I suppose we can never find a definitive answer to our questions and experiences but sharing stories and discussing them certainly helps. I have only been here in Thailand since late 2021 and so my experience of the country and the women in still new. I have had plenty of experience though in other parts of this region throughout my life and i am now 54 years of age. I have been living 100 km north of Bangkok since I arrived. I am living with a Thai woman who is 41 years old. I can so far safely say that she does not fit into any of the categories of these bad and crazy Thai women that get mentioned on this channel and elsewhere on UA-cam. I wont go into details. There's bound to be plenty of men and women that watch your channel that are actually in successful relationships here in Thailand. Anyway, as for the women that are out there and fit into the categories mentioned in this latest video. The 'meshed' ones so to speak. I just want to add that the same thing happens to Thai men as well. It's not just us foreigners. My girlfriend tells me that Thai women do the same thing to Thai men. Credit cards, massive expenditures, help for their families, parties, festivals, new this and new that, salon, clothes,car and so on. And then when the money runs out they will leave the Thai men in the shit with debts and bills to pay. Foreigners are obviously an easier target but basically these women will do the same thing to Thai men. Another thing that might be added to the mix is that a lot of Thai men are utter buggers as well. They will be out drinking and sleeping with other women. They will be super dominant in the relationship. Treat the woman like a second class citizen. Be secretive about money and their coming and going etc. Yeah, there's a lot to put in the mix here into understanding the workings of Thai people. We must always try and remember that the majority of people here are good and honest people (I hope), and that us foreigners 9 times out of ten just meet the f**k ups and desperados. Above all, you don't need a doctorate in Sociology or/and psychology to follow simple advice and your own gut instinct. If a woman or partner is treating you like a mug. If they are bleeding you dry. If they are lying and scheming. If their family back in the village are a bunch of no good, if you met her in a bar etc. If she has frequent temper tantrums. DON'T BE WITH HER!! There's plenty of fish in the sea here. Just have the same values that you have back in your own country. Ok, yeah it's not gonna be equal because you will have more money and you will be the main provider but that's fine if you manage it properly. It's just a little old fashioned when compared to our own societies in the west. cheers
good points, i dont think its only to farangs either, thai men go thru the same, its all objectification, i know there are smarter and enlightended ladies here as well, i met a few, of course they are harder to find,,, glad to hear you found a good one, and dont have to go thru what so many others are going thru, trying to find a nice companion,,take care
Well written. Maybe for interest when you read take away the word Thai? Good and bad everywhere exists. I've seen mostly wonderful relationships so far, then again I am emotionally strong, not a young buck with a dominating brain below my belt line, not bar hopping nor helping girls put notches in their lipstick guns.
@@viron6734 and you never hear the thai lady version of the story. Some farang maybe do not want a relationship and sabotage to fulfill their own prophecy... well every story different, just sayin
If that's the culture of Thailand I don't want to get involved. Why would I want to get involved in such a terrible relationship that involves me supporting a scammer and her family. I can be stupid and infatuated with a beautiful woman, but I soon wake up when I see greed, selfish behavior and spoiled women that do not care.
Absolutely fantastic video...great letter from someone who knows about girls in Thailand. 100% so true. It would be great if all farang in Thailand watched this video.
It wouldn't matter if every ferang watched this video. 99% are watching ALL the videos & it makes little impact on the guy who's soft enough to fall. & we all hear them convincing themselves that "their girl is different." Heck, even our Dan felt he could trust that feeling.
@@markmelanson6785 Yes I know several. One lives down the road and is banned from Thailand for life! He lost everything built a girl a house and when he ran out of money. Out the door he went. He ended up in thai jail over it and his parents had to buy his way out of thailand. My guess the wife got some of that money as well. He still sends that chic money to this day little over 4 yrs that I know of. She even scammed him out the money for a American Visa and airfare about 5K. Said she come to the usa. LOL Yea he stills sends money even after that. At this point I cheer the thai chics on they are damn great at this. Oh in case you guys are wondering she is middle-aged washed-up butt ugly bar girl, not even remotely a hottie!!!!!! Another issue that I never see talked about on any utuber video, is for some reason most of these guys start think they are Thai, what a mistake that is.
When I come to Thailand for good this September, I have no intention of having a long-term financial relationship with a Thai woman. I will be on a limited pension, which will allow only for a weekly visit to a massage lady and a weekly night with a bar girl. I will be immune to financial exploitation due to this limited budget, and as soon as I tell a bar girl, the morning after, that I have not too much to live on, her interest in me will vanish. My relative poverty poverty is not my only protection. I like women and truly enjoy their company, but after a short time, they bore the hell out of me.
Hello Dan Another informative talk on the dangers of becoming involved with a Thai woman. I have found a diamond in the rough myself and the secret is very easy - parents deceased, no children just cats, and in her 60s from Chiang mai not Issan. Well it might not work for everyone but works for me. Best of luck.
yes i prefer when they tell me parents have died, or they are orphans, very sad , i hear that Changmai the families are better, I was also in chanthaburi, which is a richer province, and there wasnt as much of this, but it was still there, but i have dated the better ladies here, but they were still being controlled and serving their parents in an unhealthy way, parents dont want them to be free, like children forever, it wasnt for me, i have some nice female friends anrd their parents are seperated , [parents are single, and have businesses, these ladies are more like us, with men in their life etc, modern thais i guess best way to describe them, i love them like they were my kids, but they are different than the ones that we mostly meet or want a farang to take care of them and their families, these girls have their own businesses as well,, the dont fit into this at all, but they are few
@@markmelanson6785 Hi Mark Thanks for your comment. I don't have any exploitation stories like many of dan' s followers but I do know misery likes comfort so it appears most of the stories about Thai women are not positive but that doesn't mean there are not positive ones out there. I think the best advise is too spend some time to get to know the other person before starting a relationship. I hope Dan takes his time this time or he is bound to repeat the same mistakes as before. Cheers.
@@ranctil3 i need to do the same..i do try to get to know as much as possible early on...so that i dont caught up in a unhealthy situation..there are a few of my friends that have good marriages..more modern that dont follow or abuse these old family traditions they have. I know that many of the women out there looking for farang has a lot to do with financing their family. Or these poor ladies are stuck with taking on other burdens...but I cant forget where I am and why they have all the social problems they do have...poverty prostitution corruption etc..some of the better ladies i met still were overly involved with their parents lives...i do have thai friends that lead modern lives....right now i have a lady interested in me..however her purpose in life seems to be about money as well. She is ready to move into a fast into relationship with me..even move in..i am just finding out now that she may be expecting financial support in excess that i dont want to be a participant in providing...thats best for thai people not me to accept...one of my buddies here been here longer than me even...just found someone that is sincere and her family very stable and independent..so its more a 2 way relationship finally for him..of course thats what i want..nice to hear from you..happy holiday tc mark
That was a well written, lot of truth. Sad to hear as well. Eventually, these girls and their parents are going to run out of guys willing to be ripped off. And then what?
They will never run out of guys willing to be ripped off. After this current generation of Western men who think with their small heads has come and gone, the next generation will follow.
The fact that many Thai people are expected to support themselves, their children, their parents and often other relatives all at the same time, is probably why most Thais are so deeply in debt and cannot get ahead financially.
This is one of the reasons why I dislike the Thai culture. If someone is rolling in the dough the other family members become paralyzed. Yes they will gladly take the money. They would work less or not work at all. Mom and Dad doesn't know squat about budgeting. Wouldn't even ask much on how you got that money. Then they will continue to spend on some crap they don't need or can't afford. They will interfere with your life and finances. They feel entitled to your money.
Well done, reading out those big words, Dan! Good effort tbf. The salient point is this...if this guy, with his in depth understanding of the Asian family mindset can be caught out...and, it seems, often...what possible chance do the majority of western men have?
Bro, it's always about money with every woman. Men love women, women love what men can do for them, i.e., provisions. Only women children and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are only loved based on what they can provide
@audreywong4609 I dont think you're wrong. There are very loyal women who may be the breadwinners in their relationship and are cool with it. But you are definitely speaking about a minority of women. The exception does not the ruel make.
@justacentrist4147 , I not too sure does this money issues applies to western women as well? I can only speak on the community and the culture that I live with. In Malaysia and Singapore, many women are educated and financially independent and most of men here doesn't provide for their women. In fact, most of the Malaysian men and the western men that I knew prefer women who can contribute equally when they are in a relationship. Personally I prefer men who can provide so women like us do not need to work so hard and strives to succeed the stressful corporate environment. But realities are so different here. Many western men in Thailand perhaps are much gentleman I guess ...
I am with an Isaan girl for 11 years now . She is fantastic and certainly the exception. We married in Thailand . The Sin Sod was 100,000 baht and I found that reasonable. I took her out of Thailand and away from the family and out of the country. We now live happily in Australia and visit Thailand often. I have a partner for life and the best girl I have ever met . It can work. But I would never do an LDR as I have never seen one that works. Cheers Dan.
@@Rodderz1 Thats a matter of opinion . End result is for me Im 12 years into the happiest relationship I have ever had . Based on the 100,000 baht outlay my wife has paid me back 10 fold over the years and has helped make an extremely happy life for herself and for me in Australia.
Thats fascinating & very accurate, im a Kiwi lady deeply betrayed by my Vietnamese fiance, sister & now foster children, my Kiwi husband could see this but I couldnt. For 45 years I devoted my life to these people only to be betrayed by each one over & over again.
yes somewhat generous, especially those ladies seeking foreign men, however possibly true if in a family oriented community or a professional environment, among more educated, self sufficient and more worldly
Great piece from Doug, especially his deconstruction of the "traditions". Isaan girls, 💯 are straight-up about caring for their "mums" as being their reason for living. Dan, I've met that 10% you talk about. A few of my safe, ongoing ladyfriends in Pattaya are that type & we have funny/brutal conversations about 'the others'. Interestingly, that 10% seem to do better than the others but they're not telling their fams how much they making 😂. Glad you seem to be doing OK,Dan. You got into a sit I'd have never found myself in. But you have all my respect for honouring your boy & getting on with it. M
i know from one of my colleagues here, he tells that his gfs mum is very much a big mouth, spreading to the village and other relatives her daughter has a french bf, so every month when she knows his money comes in, they are trying to get even more from him than he already gives, he is generous already, even when he visits issan , he takes a hotel, stays away from them,, this enmeshment or what they call close families is no more than looking for others to take care of them these beliefs and sense of entitlement they have and the way they treat outsiders is be rooted in trauma, and intolerable experiences in childhood, it's also a narcissistic disorder, I also know from meeting some people working in education here, that parents interfere in their kids education and are highly controlling/manipulative
My predispositions towards Thai girls is split into "Residents & Visitors" lol. Actually, it's become an initial question in my "KYTG" (Know Your Thai Girl) interview lol. "Do you live in Pattaya, or are you visiting?" It gives us a clue as to their back-story. I respect earners, however aggressive. But that's not the same as a girl getting their ferang to pay for extra things through lies and schemes. And it's another thing entirely when their families capitalise on/drive the gig too. Now I've always had a feeling lol, that regardless of what the girl (& family) might want to do with you, you either let them, or you don't 😂. One of my oldest rules has been, "Don't meet the family". Never let it happen, never visit their town. Going outside your 'control zone' is risky for any foreigner, anywhere. & girls I've seen for a few days who then said, "I need to go home, do you want to come?" have received a sharp, "NO!" I'm doing them a favour too. Trap me in a corner of money-grubbing relatives, imma gonna' be rude, make a scene & throw some "fk offs" around. When faced with assholes, I have no problems being an even bigger one & taking them to 'Asshole School' . I like to stay 'happy friendly teddy bear Mark' & I steer my course to avoid grizzly situations where I pull the ceiling down.
My observation is the complete opposite. When together with Thai/Vietnam people I always got invited by them, I even had problems to invite them, because they always were faster then me. Whenever I wanted to pay, everything already had been paid by somebody else. Paying for guests and friends increases social status in Asia, so everybody wants to invite. I had to secretly go to the waiter and pay before somebody else got the idea. When I lived at their place they refused to take money for it, I had to hide it for them and tell them later after back home so they could not return it... They were the most generous people I ever met, even if they have less they still invite. Of course these are normal people with normal jobs and normal life. No prostitutes, no bargirls, no farang hunters and so on...
@@Eric-of5ex I agree 100%, and had similar experiences with Thai people I've been with. Also agree about this channel, it's confirmation bias all over.
@@igelineau People in this channel are mostly tourists, their vision of Thailand is biased because they have contacted only a very tiny sliver of Thai society. And very often it is not the most trustworthy part 😉
@@Eric-of5ex Yep that's why I am posting here. There is a lot of bias and people should also hear about the other side. But same is true for Thai's bias about foreigners, in their view many foreigners are sexcrazy people who are just busy with sexual harrassment of Thai women. Whenever one of my female friends is going to Pattaya she is constantly approached by foreign men asking "how much?", which is a big annoyance for her. So farangs haven't the best reputation among Thai people also...
@@Nordic_Sky if you dont mind me asking what does your Thai gf do for work? i have only spoken and been with bar girls .mind you i never had a bad experience.. yet lol
In Thailand, every Baht flows only one way. Only spend disposable funds. They will ruin you if you let them. They have no financial acumen, and will bleed you until you are dry. Be careful boys. Great video Dan
Great story. I have been to Thailand many times and wouldn't get into a relationship with a Thai woman. All about the money. I've been with my Philino girlfriend for 2 years now and not once has she asked me for money. Humble and happy just to be in a relationship
I have been to Thailand many times. I have a lot of knowledge about the . the culture. Please do your research before traveling to any foreign country. Most, not all of the sob stories I hear are your fault for being so stupid. Not trying to be mean but a lot of these girls only know a certain way of life. You need to be able to recognize this early before they rope you in. Do not be desperate, be patient fellas! There are many to choose from. The one is out there for you, but it's up to YOU not them!
Thank You Dan, and please thank Doug for me. Excellent analysis. You can add Vietnam to that classification, I walked away three times. The last one came from a grey zone between the 90 and 10%, but I had become too suspicious so it wasn’t sustainable. I don’t blame the persons, as it is deeply rooted in the culture; they put their relatives on eToro and trade them, and you have to stay on the loosing side of the market.
Yes its deeply rooted..and they dont possess the critical thinking skills or conscience being a member of such enmeshed family systems... in fact they inherit these anti social disorders that are linked to it..relationships parent -child are a form of covert incest where parents use children for support..treat as an equal..and or even an extension of themselves, very limited ability to think beyond, and what the parents are telling them, pull them out of school young.. like children with children, after certain age they dont develop
It’s about money too in the United States and elsewhere also. What’s the way to solve this situation? Find a woman that wants you for YOU. But that’s hard to find these days.
You are right, but saying that won't be popular. Many of us farang will hold onto an illusion for dear life. I'd rather try to live with a clear rational mind. Especially needed in Thailand!
Kinda, but when you sweep a SEA girl off her feet you blow her mind, there is no relationship equity though, not really in the west either, women are women, the option of being moderately economically used for the price of alot of good sex is just not available to most guys back home.
When Thai women are mentioned, it’s fair to say that most people immediately think of two different types; the ‘bar girls’ and the ‘normal girls’. In our experience, there are actually five different types of Thai women that you’ll find in the country. If you want to date a woman in Thailand, we think it’s important to understand the differences between them. With this in mind, allow us to break them down below!
1. Bar Girls
Since bar girls seem to get the most attention, allow us to explain these women first. If you’ve been on a few nights out in Thailand, we can almost guarantee that you’ve bumped into a few bar girls. In Pattaya, Bangkok, and other big cities, you’re likely to come across bar girls often. Raised in poor families, normally in Isaan (northeast Thailand), they see their work in clubs and bars as a serious job. Whenever they earn money, some go towards their education and lifestyle while the rest tends to go home to their family. Unfortunately, their poor reputation comes from their desire to earn money. Since they earn more on this scene than they ever could in a day job, they’re very rarely willing to forgo this lifestyle for a Western man. If you fall for a bar girl, make sure she is genuine with her intent, learn more about her, and assess whether or not she will change her profession for you. Bar girls have broken many a Western heart, so don’t give everything away so easily.
2. Traditional Girls
On the other hand, people normally think about traditional Thai girls as ‘regular’ or ‘normal’. Many work long hours in their day job, they don’t socialize in clubs and bars all too much, and the majority haven’t yet dated a foreign guy. Unlike what you may have experienced at home, Thai women don’t like casual dating. If you’re a few dates in, they will probably see you as their boyfriend already. Traditional Thai women, take marriage and love very seriously; they believe in giving their all to their man. Additionally, they have strong values for: Traditional beliefs Meeting your/her family Religion Children
Most Western men, find themselves in conversations about marriage within a year. If you aren’t interested and aren’t serious, we highly recommend breaking up before breaking her heart later down the line. As you may know, traditional Thai women are shy and conservative in nature. They rarely have tattoos and piercings, they don’t wear too much makeup, and only an emergency will see them ask for money. In fact, most traditional Thai women prefer to save money, and this will help you find cheap hotels, food, salons, shopping malls, etc. This all sounds great, but we should inform you of one drawback; their ability with the English language. If you find a girl that doesn’t speak much English, you can be certain that she’s trying to learn. As long as you’re both making an effort to communicate, love will conquer everything.
3. Thai Gold Diggers
We mentioned the way that bar girls like to earn money, but this is nothing compared to the gold diggers of Thailand. That’s right, some women will go to clubs every night dressed up in expensive clothing with expensive gadgets, handbags, and shoes, and they could even have tattoos. Either way, they look for rich men who will buy them gifts and supplement their expensive lifestyle. While some are happy to stick with one sugar daddy, others will seek multiple sugar daddies, so be careful (we assume you want to avoid this type of woman!). Many Thai gold diggers, they’re happy to keep partying until the sun comes up. Most of the time, they don’t care if you’re talking with other girls because they’re doing exactly the same. If you choose a gold digger, they will be demanding, they will ask for gifts, and they will prefer material things over your time. Here are some tips for recognizing a gold digger: She’s always asking for material items and for you to spend money She always seems to prefer fancy restaurants and experiences (rather than just a night in together) She’s direct in asking for money Of course, we aren’t saying that any girl asking for money is a gold digger. But there’s a difference between running into money problems (and feeling awkward asking for help) and simply asking for you to fund their life.
4. Liberated Thai Girls For us, a liberated Thai girl is a traditional Thai girl who has been able to break free from shyness. They’re accustomed to Western attitudes and men, they like adventure, and they’re generally very good fun. Unlike the gold diggers, liberated Thai girls are independent and they won’t be looking for a man with money. Instead, they’re genuinely interested in finding somebody to love. Good with the English language, these women will have careers and huge aspirations for the future. Before settling down with a family, they will have goals. Thanks to their middle-class families, most have been to a big university and are now putting these skills to good use. Some liberated Thai girls have even spent time abroad which means an ability to speak various languages. You might speak to somebody who has traveled to Japan, Spain, France, or maybe even the UK. With this in mind, they have a passport and will have a hobby to go alongside their busy working week. For example, this could be painting, blogging, surfing, playing an instrument, or dancing. Just like in the West, you need to find a woman who suits your desires whether you want a casual fling or a long-term relationship. Fortunately, these girls love new experiences, and this can be great fun. Since they’re independent in nature, they will pay for their own drinks on a night out and may actually be against the traditional Western chivalrous approach (only if you take it too far; everybody loves a gentleman with good manners!). 5. High Society Thai Girls
Finally, we come to the high-society Thai women and these normally have wealthy parents or come from a wealthy family. In truth, it’s another life entirely for those who don’t socialize in these circles. For this reason, you won’t often find them in a typical bar, restaurant, or club. They like to frequent fashion shows, exclusive restaurants, and events with a high reputation. If you don’t have the sort of money they are used to with their family, it’s hard to compete with those who do. If you do have some money, there’s no reason why you can’t start dating a high-society Thai girl. Verdict Which girl has taken your attention from this guide alone? For us, it’s important to avoid gold diggers and be careful with bar girls. If you have the money, maybe a high-society Thai girl is for you. If not, you have the traditional and liberated Thai girls. While one is conservative, respectful, and extremely loyal, the other is independent, fun, well-traveled, and/or educated! Take care and God bless
very good content and analysis in this video. for some contrast saw a recent video from an american on vacation in pattaya. he so proudly touted the new friend he found/purchased on soi 6 no less (as we all know only Phd students get hired there) he was so proud and even showed the after hour club where he was "invited to pay" for her and others LOL. then perturbed because he wanted her to go to a water park but she just wanted to sleep all day. some commentors knew her by name and remarked on their own excursions with her LOL. no doubt that boosted his ego.and sense of achievement.
In the Carribean (several island nations where tourism is primary income) its the same. It's called the Cabana Complex where every relationship must be predicated on the payment of money from the farang / foreigner to the Islander.
In SEA for 15 years. NEVER been in a relationship, never been married, never had children with them & never had a girlfriend. HIT IT & QUIT IT. U want love go talk to UR Mom
Really like the stories how they speak to the vulnerability of Men and our need to manage ourselves hopefully before emotional pain and / or financial ruin do it for us . Great work ! Cheers . John
The guy had many valid points but self reflection is important also. He mentioned how he was almost the same age as the parents. If that's the case you need to work on yourself bro. I can't imagine many woman that would want to be with someone thats their parents age. You should know that bro it's not a mystery
Same age as the parents, obviously you have no insight to life here, many of the ladies have had children in their teens, and what is wrong with a lady being 15- 20 yrs younger than the man or visa versa a lady being older, really age has nothing to do with love. And not all older men find all younger women attractive either, but you know that too bro.... Doug is trying to warn men about the love scams that exist here, there are ladies of all ages doing this,that's reality, but you know that also... And why are you putting a number or age limit on 2 people looking for companionship or wanting to have a family, or a second chance in life... it is a normal feeling, need , bro...some older men and women are also quite active, still very attractive, and are loving people, bro. It seems your comment is more about undermining and discreditting Doug, maybe you should refect on those people like yourself that undermine, smear and discredit others... (especially those that understand, and want to warn other people about certain dangers and behaviors, so they don't get abused also). Thats very much a disorder itself bro( undermining others) some people are like moles on sites like this,,, just like to bully, or gaslight,,that's a sad thing too,to have to encounter childish condescending farang like this here in Thailand..It's a good advice to avoid/reject them also..I hope you get it, ...take care bro
You're channel is great recently started watching and going through all your videos...I'm currently with Phillipines girl well woman I'm 49 she's 33 and I met through dating site which went on before going Phillipines for few months..I had lots options with women on site and in end I chose one which work as engineer and although work hard she does not earn much by western standards..yes I found that that is not as bad in Philippines as Thailand for women who put money first before love..your channel is great for letting people know the risks..keep up good work 👏
My Goodness I don't know how I missed this one Dan but I did and luckily I have just found it.. ..Well this is the Best Thumb nail and the only one that everyone needs to play and play again ...this as you said could not be put across any better and is absolute 100% true and gives the warning and really every man should keep this download an play it to the potential partner before getting involved and watch the girls reaction ....I think this would prevent the big mistake they could make....the point is the ones mentioned here can do more damage to your life your heart and soul than any man can imagine ..I speak from experience Thanks Dan for your great channel and to the person who sent this in
I had been working as a condo juristic person staff for 6 years in chonburi, and has witnessed the drama between foreigners and bar girls countless time, like watching a super drama movie over and over and glad that I left that job -.I think what happening it's due to different cultures and from expecting too much from the other . I'm not criticizing this except to say please use your brain and learn from other people's experiences to choose a good spouse.
This was my experience on point. Thank you very much for this insights and sharing it, so I know also other guys have this experience and I am not crazy. I am staying since 2 month in Thailand, most Bangkok. As soon as I did not pay them, they tried to call me the bad one and cancel any contact. But the reasons were most something else. Some tell me straight, they look for spoiling and they also think they are the good behaviour. Very crazy. Also they seem to need so much attention all the time. If you do not text them always, they clame you and stop. Very toxic and very manipulative behaviour. I think long term they will be very sad with this behaviour. After your video I understand it so much better with family abusing them. Seems the culture is exactly 180 degrees what I tought. Anyway, new culture experience and learning is not easy.
Thanks Dan , just discovered your channel and really liked your humour analyzing subscriber stories . Really interesting mind bending effects of falling in love. I married a Chinese woman and pay for most things but she does buy food make meals and works seven days a week . Cheers John
Your channel should be required viewing for ANYONE thinking of going to thailand. That said there will always be those blokes that think they are above being scammed. Thank you for posting such informative and relevant content.
you mention at the end of the video about parents demanding huge sin sods, there was a young couple i believe from changmai that wanted to get married, the couple both worked, im not sure if the thai lady wanted to marry with a farang or thai man, but i do remember that the father wanted a significant amount for sinsod, they didnt have it, and she had to continue working to raise as much as she could to get his approval, she was actually working for it too,, it was a real sad story,, the father was using this tradition to get money back for raising her and too profit from as much as he could from this situation, he had all the power over her and her life,, that much i remember, it makes angry, sadly if i was involved with a lady like this that couldnt set boundaries with her father, or live a free life, free from such toxic controlling selfish parents,, it would be too unpleasant and frustrating for me to be involved with her and her family,,, thats very sad, that's something too we need to consider, its on the top of my list when i meet ladies here, i ask about the parents,,doesnt matter their age.....,i did date women in their 40,s living with a single unemployed father, and i know first hand these ladies answered completely to their fathers, like they were still children, or replacement spouses, as mentioned in the video these are very unhealthy bonds, forms of abuse starting in their childhood= covert incest making a child an equal, like a spouse, all very childish.
Kinda agreed that the parents children bondages is sort of childish. In general, being an Asian myself I can relate to such a situation. However, being educated in a westernised environment and travelled extensively has actually made me more open minded to cut off this traditional bondages. I still honoured my parents however I do set boundaries that they need to respect me for my own independent and the choices which I made in life. Sometimes it might not be easy because of the cultural settings we are in but it is possible if the person is very clear what he/she would like to achieve in her own life
I have been here less than 1 year and I already see this. At first, I was shocked by how many single moms there are in Thailand. It's rare that I meet girls who had fathers around growing up. These rare girls seem to have a lot more morals than the single mom raised girls. I've also met a lot of young single moms who didn't want to ever marry. The Thai society is not really focused on the traditional family unit. Don't assume they are Asian so they are focused on the family. They are focused on obligations and resources.
I wouldn’t have guessed that being an African American man I’m trying to have kids in a culture where single motherhood isn’t. Maybe Philippines is different from what I’m hearing and being raised around some philipino friends I’ve never got the feeling that they are going towards destruction always represented maybe bit too much but close family unit
I think I will rate this subscriber's letter as the best and most accurate ever, his letter should be stamped on every passport when entering the land of scams.
It isn't all true. Women with the money is everywhere! I love my husband even though when we don't have the money. I never leave him or cheat on him with another guy. Even though I am very struggling with financial and life I wouldn't go to work bar to sell the body. I have a pride in myself. Go get a real job and make my own money! Don't assume everyone will be the same as you thought.
I don't and the writer doesn't, we both expressed that 10% of Thai women we meet are different to the rest, my X was different in regard to money she just had bipolar issues 🤷
Dan malee farm lady from issan area But she just has mom to care for an think baby Other couple people She is hard worker former factory worker Just like me Dan In Ohio I grew up in poverty so know what poverty is so I will be glad to support malee if she will have me in long term relationship. I supporter my Latina Honduras lady from USA will send her money even though did not make what I do now. I sent my love in Honduras money but couple times she got robbed of the 300 or 299 Or 200$ from me each month can not recall?
Malee I am sure she will love me an want to be with me all time I am with her if we have long term relationship. I do not know for sure till we meet in my Hilton hotel restaurant on roof of my hotel Malee is a giver not taker she has given thousands of dollar to citizens poorer than her from what I seen on her you tube channels.
Honduras poorer than Thailand but if true love happens between us I will be glad help much because I love her much . Bible says in my faith husband sup 18:48
Dan, love your videos. Great truths 👏👏 Suggestion; use a separate camera or else read the script from a tablet. That way you will look more natural on screen.
Spot on, very good video. My wife and I lived in Thailand for a year. I have befriended many Thai's in that time observing how they interact with both foreigners and each other. I must say, I found they lack the social skills and intellect to keep even a moderately intelligent foreigner's interest in them. I also came to the nasty conclusion that they lack the ability to love their own or a foreigner. Relationships appear more parasitic in nature than based on love and affection. I personally would not trust a relationship with a Thai, for this reason I would advise men looking for love to treat it as a financial transaction void of feelings. That way both your feelings and money will be save while you get that itch scratched. This is just my own thoughts and opinion on the matter.
Average Thai IQ is 89, 11 points lower than US average -- a substantial difference. I love my Thai gf, but her interests are very limited compared to mine. And having an in-depth, intellectual conversation on a complicated topic is not her thing. But she is very sweet and loving. I've dated very high IQ girls and in general it has not been a success. They are anxiety ridden and have lots of issues.
yes, a very accurate observation, in general, I do find it distrurbing that many farang want to blame just the bar girl on this type of behavior, the man's story was not about bar girls, it was about the relationships with family, and anti social disorders they posess/inherit..but many farang do defend these ladies, but its just a matter of time till its their turn, there are some better people with better values and that come from better families here but they are not the majority, of course this is not limited to how they treat farang only. I met a man from issan, very educated man, he says the same thing about the ladies and families there....
Many successful marriages that begin when the people are relatively young go many years without many material fancy comforts, well at least they used to, not sure about today. Anyway, my point is that later in life these married couples will look back on that time in their marriage fondly. The struggle to advance and succeed brought them closer. I always suspect no Thai woman would be willing to go through this out of love and duty.
I am from Philippines all good and bad women is everywhere. You lucky if you found right good woman. Anyways my boyfriend he will propose me next month he is from Australia. We are 3 years relationship but we never fight over money😅 I never jealous of him but sometimes he jealous to me for no reason😂. When he get mad I love to teas him and anoyhim till we friends again cause I don't like fighting. We are so excited to have vacation this month going to Thailand to see beautiful places. He spoild me a lot even I didn't ask him...I said to him why are u doing all this? He simply answered because u are different than other women I meet before you never give me headaches😂.?
I'm 61 and my Isaan gf is 30 and gorgeous. She works very hard at a Bangkok hospital and supports her Mom and son. To help out, I've tried to give her money several times. She has always refused. When we go out to dinner, I'll pay, but she always pays for something else, like an after-dinner drink. She is very conservative when it comes to sex. I think what people think of as female Thai "gold digger" culture is heavily skewed by the bar scene, where the girls are only out for the money. Not all Isaan women are like that. Incidentally, she has mentioned that none of her friends will date farangs.
sadly you are mistaken about that, I dated a nurse, a marketing representative, pharmacist, and a general manager of a company, they were not gold diggers as such, although I encountered my share of gold diggers and women after support, i dont date them , i manage to screen them , i know shortly after meeting them what they are looking for.... but these professional ladies i did date,,, did have a relative usually a parent still influencing them, living with them or they were supporting them including supporting siblings, nieces, nephews ,, and most admitted to me they were very tired of taking care/supporting everyone including siblings at the request of their parents, and had no money for anything else..no time either. for a man in their life, which they seemed to want...
@@markmelanson6785 I agree with you about the girls wanting to support their family. That's how they are raised. My girlfriend sends her Mom $300 a month to help with expenses for her and for raising her son. She only sees them twice a year since it is a 6-hour drive from BKK to her Isaan village. What if I end up paying $300 a month down the road? Who cares? It's a rounding error to me. If we stick together, I'll probably give her a fixed amount every month to spend as she pleases, whether on herself or sending back to her Mom. To me, it's a bargain, honestly.
I'm a Psychologist from USA. I'm not sure we can apply Western Psychological DSM type labels on other cultures so definitively. Terms like "co-dependency" and "enmeshment" can only be cautiously applied. Mental Health is often a culturally dependent concept. "Healthy" and "Unhealthy" are subjective terms. This does not mean we have to accept cultural practices which offends our own sense of comfort and well being. We do need to protect our emotions, finances, and boundaries. We just don't have to do it with so much judgement and self righteousness. I saw a book in a library 40 years ago, "Romantic Marriage: A 20th Century Illusion." For millennia, marriage has been about survival and family ties.
"We do need to protect our emotions, finances, and boundaries. We just don't have to do it with so much judgement and self righteousness." The author of this letter stated that truth was his goal, not political correctness.
I have been living in Thailand for 4 years and I had many local romantic encounters and a few LTR’s. It is true that culturally speaking, security supersedes “love” in most relationships in Thaïland. That said, if you take good care of your lady she will reciprocate above your expectations, provided that she is a good person, of course.
A woman with a good heart. She will look after you if you don't abuse her. She may even prove to be like the wise virgin as spoken of in the good book, the Bible.
In the Philippines if you marry a girl you are also marrying her family. The girl and her family are parts of one organism. She does not have a distinct sense of self apart from her family. When she was growing up they were always together 24/7 and she was almost never alone. Don't marry a girl there unless you love her family.
i was in a relationship with a filipina so i understand this organism, they sleep together as many as 5 or 6, 15-20 in a house/room ,it becomes like a hive, they cant leave, they just want to stay home with their families, very domestic and primitiver, but they are happy, of course as they continue reproduce they become poorer and more populated, hence the social problems and corruption, i think this is the case in issan, as well,, they live for today, find money for their next meal or someone to give to them, there are some educated philipinos working abroad that see this destructive irresponsible behavior of their people, and want better lives themselves,,but like thailand those with this sense of entitlement are everywhere, and they are surrounded by these people, like a plague
Been married in the west for 30 years..now single..my advice..money can buy you love..just make sure it dosent send you broke and you’ll get a good deal
A lot of these women with personality disorders (especially NPD) have a lack of self-awareness or at least it's severely impaired. They know on a superficial level what they have done, but they will very rarely take accountability for their actions, and try and gaslight you into thinking you're the crazy one. Saving face can easily be translated into "escape accountability at all costs". A lot of these women have also been shaped by cultural toxicity and wrong family values. Of course, we cannot judge all of them. But hearing these stories sounds like a broken record.
very much npd and sociopathy are linked to their family traditions and being extremely enmeshed, also by ages of 11 they dont develop once they inherit these behaviors
The fact that so many of these women have personality disorders, as defined in the DSM5, speaks volumes to the toxic enmeshment culture addressed in this vid/story.
I've been with my Thai wife for 11 years now...we have 6 y.o. lovely daughter. I was blinded by love and have spent a big chunk of my life savings(I'm 75) and am now at the point where my future financial health will be in doubt if i keep going at this current pace... I have an ongoing dilemma about leaving money for my daughter when i pass, but also thinking whatever i leave her will get sucked by the family asap... I would be grateful for others thoughts on this...thanks JCB
Good Evening Dan, I just came across this video. I BELIEVE THE TERM OF A VIDEO LIKE THIS IS......... EVERGREEN. If there is a way to identify this video WITH A "STICKY" it would be helpful to do so. Thank you.
I believe it's more than just poverty, other poorer communities in different cultures don't display this behavior. Basically in Thai "I love you" translates to "I'll take care of you and your family", anything short of that means you don't care about them...
I knew there had to be some kind of academic explanation for this crap.🤣🤣🤣One has to take the "It's my way or the highway" attitude from the start with clear boundaries.
My thai wife of 13 years was only interested in caring for her mother but 2 years ago her mother died and she changed. She now looks at me as her father. Ha funny but she is a good girl.
If these old Men with these girls 35 years younger than them think they are not looking for cash first they are delirious. If the men undestand what they are paying for and if the cash runs out so will they it will work. Basically a business transaction where both people understand the arrangement.
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@@patienceobongo cash is King
Dan... invite stories of reverse scam... when western men produce maham on Thai girls and their families....!
Plenty men would like to hear/share....
Sounds like Narcissim is RAMPANT out there
My friend married his former student from a university in ChiangRai.
She is a good lady, not interested in money. Keep in mind he did help pay her tuition during college. They now have 3 kids super happy!
Cheers.
Ha😂😂😂
In Thailand that's less than 1%. So that don't count .
That's exception rather than the rule.
I think its the same for China and maybe Japan... I suggest for men to get a good wigg, get surgery on their jaw, a muscle suit... Be good at humor, and talk to 3-5 girls at teh same time and never commit to any one.
This is my input from having dated 4 Thai women over the past 5 years. Thailand is a developing country. Money is hard to make there. Thai dating/marriage isn't the same as in the west. Women there will prioritize financial security above love and expects that you'll be able to help her and her family. She'll love you with the condition you can provide. This is as raw as male and female nature gets. Asians value collectivism and westerns sometimes confuses that with greed. Above all, vet your partner properly. It doesn't matter where you find a woman because a bad one will always make your life miserable. I hear many bad farang stories but it's mostly because the man vetted poorly.
Simps and sex tourists will always get took for a ride. I am a handsome man green eyes white skin man 37 aging like wine I tick all boxes for farang. The most recent English lady hit alarm bells off the bat. Guy told me to not see her again and I was right. I dated 3 Thai girls over 3 nights and picked the best one. Not the best looking one . This Thai lady I’ve just dated for a week hasn’t give me one bad gut instinct feeling. I am now going to vet her wisely before returning in December to spend 3 weeks with her. I embraced her culture religion and food. She is very religious and I love that. She said blessings at buddah for my family really touched my soul. She even took me out the last night for a sunset dinner paid for everything to try to prove to me it’s not the money. She has genuine burning desire if iyou aren’t aware guys you must learn what this is. Crucial. she’s so turned on by me it’s insane. I will never comprise myself with her. Have no interest in narcissistic English woman anymore. But willing to see where it goes with Thai lady . I say we can only be friends at this point, shit tested her twice she’s ticking every box. My biggest worry is she is absolutely a 10 Thai men stare everywhere we went. But like I said I am quite blessed being handsome. My first time to Thailand I can move out there at 50. But give me the kick up the bum to earn more money and go live a beautiful life out there . England has nothing to offer me
i think all woman where born with what i call the "transactional gene"
She kept telling me I was so handsome. That's when I knew she was a liar.
Correct
Hello na-ling you so handsome...Little does the non-Thai speaking farang realize that na-ling translates as "monkey face". All in good fun, or at least 50% fun 555
🤣 i when along with it love it make me happy as long as you no the truth . keep paing the tax the govem wont to killl kid in new wars .. god bless
Last year when I was travelling, I had a Thai girlfriend and a Filipina girlfriend, both in their early 30’s. I found there to be differences between them. Like the man said, the Thai lady was basically being pimped off by her mother, and the lady was a want monster, who was always ungrateful, demanding and manipulative. She was also a lot of fun and very beautiful. When I returned to England I could see that her only motivation was money, and she was quick to anger if I questioned her about ethics. On the other hand, the Filipina, who I have been in contact with for a few years now, is very loving and caring, and cautious with her money and mine . She seems like simple and decent woman, as do most of the rest of her family. She was very happy to spend time with me and was not at all manipulative.
its true what you say about the thai women, with filipinas its a hit or miss, my experience with filipines you have some that believe in education and hard work, possess western type values and christianity, so generally they are open minded, can love and respect their man, but you do have the other side much like we see in parts of thailand. i think of returning to PH to retire there, instead, but the infrastructure here is good, i may also try latin america... thx
I kinda see that pattern. I would dare say that mountain tribe Thais seem to be kinder or more faithful. Your mileage may vary. Yes they do look good and dress well and blend in with Thais. Of course they can also be scandalous. Sometimes you can't tell that they are from the mountains.
@@mazyata9958 Igarotas from PI are the same.
In Thailand if you are not Thai and you do not speak Thai they look down on you and think you're a moron. In Philippines if you are a native English speaker they hold you in high regard because they value the ability to speak English well.
@@sdickinson5234 that’s a good point. Sometimes in Thailand I feel like the people are blatantly talking about me, knowing I cannot understand. Hopefully I’m not paranoid 😂
“If you help someone in trouble- they will remember you when they’re in trouble again.”
Absolutely, incredibly true. Then when you catch onto their game, you're the a***ole. Inevitably.
@@travisrobert9530 Like my buddy says "be that guy and they will leave you alone."
@@pogipogi9670 Right. Better to be alone than to be a solid gold sucker. Agreed?
Absolutely you are on their list and for life
you get accused of something and abused, my ex blames me for every failed relationship she has had in 8 yrs, as i left her so she had no choice but to be with them
I think this is one of the best videos you've made to date. I really appreciate the layout of expectations and the way to handle them. If you don't stand for yourself, most of these women in the name of family will run over you like a freight train. When you have nothing left to give, you'll be thrown out to the street like yesterday's newspaper. Not a care in the world what happens to you. They just think it's not my problem, and he was stupid enough to give away the money.
Great story from Doug, mindset born from poverty is absolutely spot on. Lots of parents mindsets are that they gave birth to you, so you owe them a lifetime financially, but it is not only aimed at foreigners, it is any man that gets involved with their daughter, the money is never enough, if you gave $1M they would want $2M etc, most of these parents have terrible gambling habits + whiskey + debt
absolutely
They sure are love gambling .
Government employees are the worse.... Debt is crazy ! 😂
Such a horrible culture, this culture was tradition in China but there are many many people that are criticizing it at least, I don't think Thai people have the personality or intelligence to criticize the traditional culture.
Probably the best story I have heard from your channel. This man is speaking truth
Yes he is...also not easy to speak the truth these days..
As I am Thai and northeastern people, northeastern blood, whose parents are diligent farmers. You say about the end. Some people may be like that, but for me, I understand foreigners who live in Thailand, explain today. It's not over, as we've heard.On one side, everyone has different ways of life. To be a poor person, but the dignity of being a Thai woman is always valuable, in addition to losing that you meet bad women with you, you may be unfortunate. All foreigners come here.Considered to be a relative to take care of your safety in Thailand. Smile. Sharing is always. I mean my family and myself, even if you are not a rich person here. human There must be good and bad people. Anyway, it's an encouragement to people who are fighting with a partner who is in a good relationship.i have shared your video from my boyfriend who is english he shared it to me then i found your video he thanks you because that is vaccine for him all smart thoughts and actions but everyone will in the middle so that there How can love go on? The power of love is real. I wish you good luck. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
She isn’t yours, it’s just your turn
That's not the point
Super original 🙄
Anyway - sorry to hear about your mum
Dude come up with something new. That saying is old news you chooch
@@jz3689eat shit, lame
Men who do not understand this concept are in Fantasy Land. Probably upset with women
Best submitted commentary by far, IMO. I was doing my taxes (FJB!) while listing so I may have missed it but the other aspect not mentioned is that all the mental/relationship issues are propped up and fueled by alcohol and drugs as well.
My observation after 20 plus trips to Thailand, is that all that glitters is gold, cash is king, and aesthetic beauty trumps good character.
image over substance absolutely because there isn't a whole lot of substance in society. (exceptions duly noted and some great people i know) that also agree with aforementioned.
@@Rodderz1 Cash is God everywhere.
A good test is to leave cash money around the house, in a way that it would seem that you won't be able to tell the amount if some was missing. Leave the money in different places at different times, in different ways (but don't make it too obvious that it's a trap), after a few weeks of doing so count the money to see if anything's missing. Most of the time some will be missing.
lol its mad to think i have no interest in a western women anymore, but i would not feel the need to do that ... but as my preference is now women from s/e Asia its a shame that i feel like i will have to put this to the test.
You guys are dumb
Obviously money is a concern but setting traps is tempting the devil just be normal and see what they do and ask for or what happens when you say no
Eg: walk past a gold shop say you want something 🤷🏿♀️ go to the worst restaurant and order bad food see if they care if you wasted your money 🤷🏿♀️
do that in america or europe to see what happens
Hi Dan. I watch all of your videos and always look forward to new ones. It seems that this channel and all involved are participating in a huge and tangled mystery. The mystery of understanding Thai society and culture with regards to relationships. It's really fascinating and also quite frustrating. I suppose we can never find a definitive answer to our questions and experiences but sharing stories and discussing them certainly helps.
I have only been here in Thailand since late 2021 and so my experience of the country and the women in still new. I have had plenty of experience though in other parts of this region throughout my life and i am now 54 years of age. I have been living 100 km north of Bangkok since I arrived. I am living with a Thai woman who is 41 years old. I can so far safely say that she does not fit into any of the categories of these bad and crazy Thai women that get mentioned on this channel and elsewhere on UA-cam. I wont go into details. There's bound to be plenty of men and women that watch your channel that are actually in successful relationships here in Thailand.
Anyway, as for the women that are out there and fit into the categories mentioned in this latest video. The 'meshed' ones so to speak. I just want to add that the same thing happens to Thai men as well. It's not just us foreigners. My girlfriend tells me that Thai women do the same thing to Thai men. Credit cards, massive expenditures, help for their families, parties, festivals, new this and new that, salon, clothes,car and so on. And then when the money runs out they will leave the Thai men in the shit with debts and bills to pay. Foreigners are obviously an easier target but basically these women will do the same thing to Thai men.
Another thing that might be added to the mix is that a lot of Thai men are utter buggers as well. They will be out drinking and sleeping with other women. They will be super dominant in the relationship. Treat the woman like a second class citizen. Be secretive about money and their coming and going etc. Yeah, there's a lot to put in the mix here into understanding the workings of Thai people. We must always try and remember that the majority of people here are good and honest people (I hope), and that us foreigners 9 times out of ten just meet the f**k ups and desperados.
Above all, you don't need a doctorate in Sociology or/and psychology to follow simple advice and your own gut instinct. If a woman or partner is treating you like a mug. If they are bleeding you dry. If they are lying and scheming. If their family back in the village are a bunch of no good, if you met her in a bar etc. If she has frequent temper tantrums. DON'T BE WITH HER!! There's plenty of fish in the sea here. Just have the same values that you have back in your own country. Ok, yeah it's not gonna be equal because you will have more money and you will be the main provider but that's fine if you manage it properly. It's just a little old fashioned when compared to our own societies in the west.
cheers
good points, i dont think its only to farangs either, thai men go thru the same, its all objectification, i know there are smarter and enlightended ladies here as well, i met a few, of course they are harder to find,,, glad to hear you found a good one, and dont have to go thru what so many others are going thru, trying to find a nice companion,,take care
Well written.
Maybe for interest when you read take away the word Thai?
Good and bad everywhere exists.
I've seen mostly wonderful relationships so far, then again I am emotionally strong, not a young buck with a dominating brain below my belt line, not bar hopping nor helping girls put notches in their lipstick guns.
Well said. Too often a farang gets with a crazy bar-girl and then confidently proclaims that "Thai women are XYZ".
@@viron6734 and you never hear the thai lady version of the story. Some farang maybe do not want a relationship and sabotage to fulfill their own prophecy... well every story different, just sayin
This video should be required viewing for anyone traveling to Thailand.
Totally agree with this
If that's the culture of Thailand I don't want to get involved. Why would I want to get involved in such a terrible relationship that involves me supporting a scammer and her family. I can be stupid and infatuated with a beautiful woman, but I soon wake up when I see greed, selfish behavior and spoiled women that do not care.
They are all scammers it's the breeding they rob each other
Absolutely fantastic video...great letter from someone who knows about girls in Thailand. 100% so true. It would be great if all farang in Thailand watched this video.
WHy they wont believe a word of it. They all think they are special and this wont happen to them. Fools everyone of them.
It wouldn't matter if every ferang watched this video. 99% are watching ALL the videos & it makes little impact on the guy who's soft enough to fall. & we all hear them convincing themselves that "their girl is different." Heck, even our Dan felt he could trust that feeling.
@@brianjmt5213 true..and you feel even crazier knowing these farang
@@markmelanson6785 Yes I know several. One lives down the road and is banned from Thailand for life! He lost everything built a girl a house and when he ran out of money. Out the door he went. He ended up in thai jail over it and his parents had to buy his way out of thailand. My guess the wife got some of that money as well. He still sends that chic money to this day little over 4 yrs that I know of. She even scammed him out the money for a American Visa and airfare about 5K. Said she come to the usa. LOL Yea he stills sends money even after that. At this point I cheer the thai chics on they are damn great at this. Oh in case you guys are wondering she is middle-aged washed-up butt ugly bar girl, not even remotely a hottie!!!!!! Another issue that I never see talked about on any utuber video, is for some reason most of these guys start think they are Thai, what a mistake that is.
Spot on from my experience.
There’s a saying in Thailand that goes ;
The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach, but the way to a man’s wallet is through his pants ‼️‼️
My saying is - Run!
When I come to Thailand for good this September, I have no intention of having a long-term financial relationship with a Thai woman. I will be on a limited pension, which will allow only for a weekly visit to a massage lady and a weekly night with a bar girl. I will be immune to financial exploitation due to this limited budget, and as soon as I tell a bar girl, the morning after, that I have not too much to live on, her interest in me will vanish. My relative poverty poverty is not my only protection. I like women and truly enjoy their company, but after a short time, they bore the hell out of me.
Hello Dan
Another informative talk on the dangers of becoming involved with a Thai woman. I have found a diamond in the rough myself and the secret is very easy - parents deceased, no children just cats, and in her 60s from Chiang mai not Issan. Well it might not work for everyone but works for me. Best of luck.
yes i prefer when they tell me parents have died, or they are orphans, very sad , i hear that Changmai the families are better, I was also in chanthaburi, which is a richer province, and there wasnt as much of this, but it was still there,
but i have dated the better ladies here, but they were still being controlled and serving their parents in an unhealthy way, parents dont want them to be free, like children forever, it wasnt for me, i have some nice female friends anrd their parents are seperated , [parents are single, and have businesses, these ladies are more like us, with men in their life etc, modern thais i guess best way to describe them, i love them like they were my kids, but they are different than the ones that we mostly meet or want a farang to take care of them and their families, these girls have their own businesses as well,, the dont fit into this at all, but they are few
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Hi Mark
Thanks for your comment. I don't have any exploitation stories like many of dan' s followers but I do know misery likes comfort so it appears most of the stories about Thai women are not positive but that doesn't mean there are not positive ones out there. I think the best advise is too spend some time to get to know the other person before starting a relationship. I hope Dan takes his time this time or he is bound to repeat the same mistakes as before. Cheers.
@@ranctil3 i need to do the same..i do try to get to know as much as possible early on...so that i dont caught up in a unhealthy situation..there are a few of my friends that have good marriages..more modern that dont follow or abuse these old family traditions they have. I know that many of the women out there looking for farang has a lot to do with financing their family. Or these poor ladies are stuck with taking on other burdens...but I cant forget where I am and why they have all the social problems they do have...poverty prostitution corruption etc..some of the better ladies i met still were overly involved with their parents lives...i do have thai friends that lead modern lives....right now i have a lady interested in me..however her purpose in life seems to be about money as well. She is ready to move into a fast into relationship with me..even move in..i am just finding out now that she may be expecting financial support in excess that i dont want to be a participant in providing...thats best for thai people not me to accept...one of my buddies here been here longer than me even...just found someone that is sincere and her family very stable and independent..so its more a 2 way relationship finally for him..of course thats what i want..nice to hear from you..happy holiday tc mark
That was a well written, lot of truth. Sad to hear as well. Eventually, these girls and their parents are going to run out of guys willing to be ripped off. And then what?
No. There's a sucker born every minute. --P.T.Barnum
Can't see that happening, lot of very gullible guys out there.
Then she will leech off of her own kids, just like her parents did.
Best observation 😊
They will never run out of guys willing to be ripped off. After this current generation of Western men who think with their small heads has come and gone, the next generation will follow.
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This is the analysis we've been waiting for - Thank you, Doug!
The fact that many Thai people are expected to support themselves, their children, their parents and often other relatives all at the same time, is probably why most Thais are so deeply in debt and cannot get ahead financially.
This is one of the reasons why I dislike the Thai culture. If someone is rolling in the dough the other family members become paralyzed. Yes they will gladly take the money. They would work less or not work at all. Mom and Dad doesn't know squat about budgeting. Wouldn't even ask much on how you got that money. Then they will continue to spend on some crap they don't need or can't afford. They will interfere with your life and finances. They feel entitled to your money.
often the family of the mother especially, in some cases burn out their own relatives
Well done, reading out those big words, Dan! Good effort tbf.
The salient point is this...if this guy, with his in depth understanding of the Asian family mindset can be caught out...and, it seems, often...what possible chance do the majority of western men have?
Bro, it's always about money with every woman. Men love women, women love what men can do for them, i.e., provisions. Only women children and dogs are loved unconditionally. Men are only loved based on what they can provide
The sad cold hard truth.
That's not true. Some women love their man unconditionally and provide financially. That I call the sad cold truth!
Clearly the exceptions, Audrey. In general, women are after a provider.@@audreywong4609
@audreywong4609 I dont think you're wrong. There are very loyal women who may be the breadwinners in their relationship and are cool with it. But you are definitely speaking about a minority of women. The exception does not the ruel make.
@justacentrist4147 , I not too sure does this money issues applies to western women as well? I can only speak on the community and the culture that I live with. In Malaysia and Singapore, many women are educated and financially independent and most of men here doesn't provide for their women. In fact, most of the Malaysian men and the western men that I knew prefer women who can contribute equally when they are in a relationship. Personally I prefer men who can provide so women like us do not need to work so hard and strives to succeed the stressful corporate environment. But realities are so different here. Many western men in Thailand perhaps are much gentleman I guess ...
I am with an Isaan girl for 11 years now . She is fantastic and certainly the exception. We married in Thailand . The Sin Sod was 100,000 baht and I found that reasonable. I took her out of Thailand and away from the family and out of the country. We now live happily in Australia and visit Thailand often. I have a partner for life and the best girl I have ever met . It can work. But I would never do an LDR as I have never seen one that works. Cheers Dan.
@@Rodderz1 Thats a matter of opinion . End result is for me Im 12 years into the happiest relationship I have ever had . Based on the 100,000 baht outlay my wife has paid me back 10 fold over the years and has helped make an extremely happy life for herself and for me in Australia.
Thats fascinating & very accurate, im a Kiwi lady deeply betrayed by my Vietnamese fiance, sister & now foster children, my Kiwi husband could see this but I couldnt. For 45 years I devoted my life to these people only to be betrayed by each one over & over again.
after the first time being betrayed the rest are on you.
10% ? you are being very generous Dan 😂 how about 2% !!!
It's 2%.
0.2%
yes somewhat generous, especially those ladies seeking foreign men, however possibly true if in a family oriented community or a professional environment, among more educated, self sufficient and more worldly
Great piece from Doug, especially his deconstruction of the "traditions". Isaan girls, 💯 are straight-up about caring for their "mums" as being their reason for living.
Dan, I've met that 10% you talk about. A few of my safe, ongoing ladyfriends in Pattaya are that type & we have funny/brutal conversations about 'the others'. Interestingly, that 10% seem to do better than the others but they're not telling their fams how much they making 😂.
Glad you seem to be doing OK,Dan. You got into a sit I'd have never found myself in. But you have all my respect for honouring your boy & getting on with it.
M
Thx
i know from one of my colleagues here, he tells that his gfs mum is very much a big mouth, spreading to the village and other relatives her daughter has a french bf, so every month when she knows his money comes in, they are trying to get even more from him than he already gives, he is generous already, even when he visits issan , he takes a hotel, stays away from them,, this enmeshment or what they call close families is no more than looking for others to take care of them
these beliefs and sense of entitlement they have and the way they treat outsiders is be rooted in trauma, and intolerable experiences in childhood, it's also a narcissistic disorder, I also know from meeting some people working in education here, that parents interfere in their kids education and are highly controlling/manipulative
My predispositions towards Thai girls is split into "Residents & Visitors" lol. Actually, it's become an initial question in my "KYTG" (Know Your Thai Girl) interview lol. "Do you live in Pattaya, or are you visiting?" It gives us a clue as to their back-story.
I respect earners, however aggressive. But that's not the same as a girl getting their ferang to pay for extra things through lies and schemes. And it's another thing entirely when their families capitalise on/drive the gig too. Now I've always had a feeling lol, that regardless of what the girl (& family) might want to do with you, you either let them, or you don't 😂. One of my oldest rules has been, "Don't meet the family". Never let it happen, never visit their town. Going outside your 'control zone' is risky for any foreigner, anywhere. & girls I've seen for a few days who then said, "I need to go home, do you want to come?" have received a sharp, "NO!" I'm doing them a favour too. Trap me in a corner of money-grubbing relatives, imma gonna' be rude, make a scene & throw some "fk offs" around. When faced with assholes, I have no problems being an even bigger one & taking them to 'Asshole School' . I like to stay 'happy friendly teddy bear Mark' & I steer my course to avoid grizzly situations where I pull the ceiling down.
My observation is the complete opposite. When together with Thai/Vietnam people I always got invited by them, I even had problems to invite them, because they always were faster then me. Whenever I wanted to pay, everything already had been paid by somebody else. Paying for guests and friends increases social status in Asia, so everybody wants to invite. I had to secretly go to the waiter and pay before somebody else got the idea. When I lived at their place they refused to take money for it, I had to hide it for them and tell them later after back home so they could not return it... They were the most generous people I ever met, even if they have less they still invite. Of course these are normal people with normal jobs and normal life. No prostitutes, no bargirls, no farang hunters and so on...
My Thai girlfriend, who lives in BKK, is like this too.
@@Eric-of5ex I agree 100%, and had similar experiences with Thai people I've been with. Also agree about this channel, it's confirmation bias all over.
@@igelineau People in this channel are mostly tourists, their vision of Thailand is biased because they have contacted only a very tiny sliver of Thai society. And very often it is not the most trustworthy part 😉
@@Eric-of5ex Yep that's why I am posting here. There is a lot of bias and people should also hear about the other side.
But same is true for Thai's bias about foreigners, in their view many foreigners are sexcrazy people who are just busy with sexual harrassment of Thai women. Whenever one of my female friends is going to Pattaya she is constantly approached by foreign men asking "how much?", which is a big annoyance for her.
So farangs haven't the best reputation among Thai people also...
@@Nordic_Sky if you dont mind me asking what does your Thai gf do for work? i have only spoken and been with bar girls .mind you i never had a bad experience.. yet lol
In Thailand, every Baht flows only one way. Only spend disposable funds. They will ruin you if you let them. They have no financial acumen, and will bleed you until you are dry. Be careful boys. Great video Dan
Great story. I have been to Thailand many times and wouldn't get into a relationship with a Thai woman. All about the money. I've been with my Philino girlfriend for 2 years now and not once has she asked me for money. Humble and happy just to be in a relationship
Where to live in the Philippines?
@@seans7228 We have been to many islands to explore and enjoy.
Palawan is a great place to live
I have been to Thailand many times. I have a lot of knowledge about the . the culture. Please do your research before traveling to any foreign country. Most, not all of the sob stories I hear are your fault for being so stupid. Not trying to be mean but a lot of these girls only know a certain way of life. You need to be able to recognize this early before they rope you in. Do not be desperate, be patient fellas! There are many to choose from. The one is out there for you, but it's up to YOU not them!
Thank You Dan, and please thank Doug for me. Excellent analysis. You can add Vietnam to that classification, I walked away three times. The last one came from a grey zone between the 90 and 10%, but I had become too suspicious so it wasn’t sustainable. I don’t blame the persons, as it is deeply rooted in the culture; they put their relatives on eToro and trade them, and you have to stay on the loosing side of the market.
took guts, but it needs to be said
Yes its deeply rooted..and they dont possess the critical thinking skills or conscience being a member of such enmeshed family systems... in fact they inherit these anti social disorders that are linked to it..relationships parent -child are a form of covert incest where parents use children for support..treat as an equal..and or even an extension of themselves, very limited ability to think beyond, and what the parents are telling them, pull them out of school young.. like children with children, after certain age they dont develop
It’s about money too in the United States and elsewhere also. What’s the way to solve this situation? Find a woman that wants you for YOU. But that’s hard to find these days.
I was gonna say.. this sounds like my first marriage in the US. 😂🤣
All women are after a provider. It's engrained in their DNA. If you have nothing to offer her, she will move on.
@@Kthomasritchie
indeed! hypergamy 101
@Kthomasritchie If she can't be apart of my struggles then she can't be apart of my sucesss!
Love is a western concept - relationships in the east - whether it's between man/woman or between parent/child - are based on pragmatism and duty.
Western women may date guys based on attraction, but they marry based on pragmatism. That's why a good salary increases a man's marriage options.
So true. You cannot trust love
I think you have got it. I am still learning this after ten years living here and a number of painful breakups.
You are right, but saying that won't be popular. Many of us farang will hold onto an illusion for dear life. I'd rather try to live with a clear rational mind. Especially needed in Thailand!
Kinda, but when you sweep a SEA girl off her feet you blow her mind, there is no relationship equity though, not really in the west either, women are women, the option of being moderately economically used for the price of alot of good sex is just not available to most guys back home.
Five Types of Women You’ll Find in Thailand
When Thai women are mentioned, it’s fair to say that most people immediately think of two different types; the ‘bar girls’ and the ‘normal girls’. In our experience, there are actually five different types of Thai women that you’ll find in the country. If you want to date a woman in Thailand, we think it’s important to understand the differences between them. With this in mind, allow us to break them down below!
1. Bar Girls
Since bar girls seem to get the most attention, allow us to explain these women first. If you’ve been on a few nights out in Thailand, we can almost guarantee that you’ve bumped into a few bar girls. In Pattaya, Bangkok, and other big cities, you’re likely to come across bar girls often.
Raised in poor families, normally in Isaan (northeast Thailand), they see their work in clubs and bars as a serious job. Whenever they earn money, some go towards their education and lifestyle while the rest tends to go home to their family.
Unfortunately, their poor reputation comes from their desire to earn money. Since they earn more on this scene than they ever could in a day job, they’re very rarely willing to forgo this lifestyle for a Western man. If you fall for a bar girl, make sure she is genuine with her intent, learn more about her, and assess whether or not she will change her profession for you. Bar girls have broken many a Western heart, so don’t give everything away so easily.
2. Traditional Girls
On the other hand, people normally think about traditional Thai girls as ‘regular’ or ‘normal’. Many work long hours in their day job, they don’t socialize in clubs and bars all too much, and the majority haven’t yet dated a foreign guy. Unlike what you may have experienced at home, Thai women don’t like casual dating. If you’re a few dates in, they will probably see you as their boyfriend already.
Traditional Thai women, take marriage and love very seriously; they believe in giving their all to their man. Additionally, they have strong values for:
Traditional beliefs
Meeting your/her family
Religion
Children
Most Western men, find themselves in conversations about marriage within a year. If you aren’t interested and aren’t serious, we highly recommend breaking up before breaking her heart later down the line.
As you may know, traditional Thai women are shy and conservative in nature. They rarely have tattoos and piercings, they don’t wear too much makeup, and only an emergency will see them ask for money. In fact, most traditional Thai women prefer to save money, and this will help you find cheap hotels, food, salons, shopping malls, etc.
This all sounds great, but we should inform you of one drawback; their ability with the English language. If you find a girl that doesn’t speak much English, you can be certain that she’s trying to learn. As long as you’re both making an effort to communicate, love will conquer everything.
3. Thai Gold Diggers
We mentioned the way that bar girls like to earn money, but this is nothing compared to the gold diggers of Thailand. That’s right, some women will go to clubs every night dressed up in expensive clothing with expensive gadgets, handbags, and shoes, and they could even have tattoos. Either way, they look for rich men who will buy them gifts and supplement their expensive lifestyle. While some are happy to stick with one sugar daddy, others will seek multiple sugar daddies, so be careful (we assume you want to avoid this type of woman!).
Many Thai gold diggers, they’re happy to keep partying until the sun comes up. Most of the time, they don’t care if you’re talking with other girls because they’re doing exactly the same. If you choose a gold digger, they will be demanding, they will ask for gifts, and they will prefer material things over your time.
Here are some tips for recognizing a gold digger:
She’s always asking for material items and for you to spend money
She always seems to prefer fancy restaurants and experiences (rather than just a night in together)
She’s direct in asking for money
Of course, we aren’t saying that any girl asking for money is a gold digger. But there’s a difference between running into money problems (and feeling awkward asking for help) and simply asking for you to fund their life.
4. Liberated Thai Girls
For us, a liberated Thai girl is a traditional Thai girl who has been able to break free from shyness. They’re accustomed to Western attitudes and men, they like adventure, and they’re generally very good fun. Unlike the gold diggers, liberated Thai girls are independent and they won’t be looking for a man with money. Instead, they’re genuinely interested in finding somebody to love.
Good with the English language, these women will have careers and huge aspirations for the future. Before settling down with a family, they will have goals. Thanks to their middle-class families, most have been to a big university and are now putting these skills to good use. Some liberated Thai girls have even spent time abroad which means an ability to speak various languages. You might speak to somebody who has traveled to Japan, Spain, France, or maybe even the UK.
With this in mind, they have a passport and will have a hobby to go alongside their busy working week. For example, this could be painting, blogging, surfing, playing an instrument, or dancing. Just like in the West, you need to find a woman who suits your desires whether you want a casual fling or a long-term relationship. Fortunately, these girls love new experiences, and this can be great fun.
Since they’re independent in nature, they will pay for their own drinks on a night out and may actually be against the traditional Western chivalrous approach (only if you take it too far; everybody loves a gentleman with good manners!).
5. High Society Thai Girls
Finally, we come to the high-society Thai women and these normally have wealthy parents or come from a wealthy family. In truth, it’s another life entirely for those who don’t socialize in these circles. For this reason, you won’t often find them in a typical bar, restaurant, or club. They like to frequent fashion shows, exclusive restaurants, and events with a high reputation.
If you don’t have the sort of money they are used to with their family, it’s hard to compete with those who do. If you do have some money, there’s no reason why you can’t start dating a high-society Thai girl.
Verdict
Which girl has taken your attention from this guide alone? For us, it’s important to avoid gold diggers and be careful with bar girls. If you have the money, maybe a high-society Thai girl is for you. If not, you have the traditional and liberated Thai girls. While one is conservative, respectful, and extremely loyal, the other is independent, fun, well-traveled, and/or educated!
Take care and God bless
An excellent piece of advice
Thanks!
very good content and analysis in this video. for some contrast saw a recent video from an american on vacation in pattaya. he so proudly touted the new friend he found/purchased on soi 6 no less (as we all know only Phd students get hired there) he was so proud and even showed the after hour club where he was "invited to pay" for her and others LOL. then perturbed because he wanted her to go to a water park but she just wanted to sleep all day. some commentors knew her by name and remarked on their own excursions with her LOL. no doubt that boosted his ego.and sense of achievement.
In the Carribean (several island nations where tourism is primary income) its the same. It's called the Cabana Complex where every relationship must be predicated on the payment of money from the farang / foreigner to the Islander.
In SEA for 15 years. NEVER been in a relationship, never been married, never had children with them & never had a girlfriend. HIT IT & QUIT IT. U want love go talk to UR Mom
Best one yet. Great story writer.
Brilliant synopsis Doug.......I loved it. Thanks Dan.🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Good show brother! Stay cool kind and generous!
Really like the stories how they speak to the vulnerability of Men and our need to manage ourselves hopefully before emotional pain and / or financial ruin do it for us . Great work ! Cheers . John
Well said Dan, took the words out of mouth about the parents
The guy had many valid points but self reflection is important also. He mentioned how he was almost the same age as the parents. If that's the case you need to work on yourself bro. I can't imagine many woman that would want to be with someone thats their parents age. You should know that bro it's not a mystery
Same age as the parents, obviously you have no insight to life here, many of the ladies have had children in their teens, and what is wrong with a lady being 15- 20 yrs younger than the man or visa versa a lady being older, really age has nothing to do with love. And not all older men find all younger women attractive either, but you know that too bro....
Doug is trying to warn men about the love scams that exist here, there are ladies of all ages doing this,that's reality, but you know that also...
And why are you putting a number or age limit on 2 people looking for companionship or wanting to have a family, or a second chance in life... it is a normal feeling, need , bro...some older men and women are also quite active, still very attractive, and are loving people, bro.
It seems your comment is more about undermining and discreditting Doug, maybe you should refect on those people like yourself that undermine, smear and discredit others... (especially those that understand, and want to warn other people about certain dangers and behaviors, so they don't get abused also).
Thats very much a disorder itself bro( undermining others) some people are like moles on sites like this,,, just like to bully, or gaslight,,that's a sad thing too,to have to encounter childish condescending farang like this here in Thailand..It's a good advice to avoid/reject them also..I hope you get it, ...take care bro
Hi Dan . Brilliant video
You're channel is great recently started watching and going through all your videos...I'm currently with Phillipines girl well woman I'm 49 she's 33 and I met through dating site which went on before going Phillipines for few months..I had lots options with women on site and in end I chose one which work as engineer and although work hard she does not earn much by western standards..yes I found that that is not as bad in Philippines as Thailand for women who put money first before love..your channel is great for letting people know the risks..keep up good work 👏
I am 50 years old now and i have been in asia since i was 18.. That is 32 years and this is Exactly correct !😮😢😂
This stuff is invaluable for anyone needing to learn in Thailand haha
My Goodness I don't know how I missed this one Dan but I did and luckily I have just found it.. ..Well this is the Best Thumb nail and the only one that everyone needs to play and play again ...this as you said could not be put across any better and is absolute 100% true and gives the warning and really every man should keep this download an play it to the potential partner before getting involved and watch the girls reaction ....I think this would prevent the big mistake they could make....the point is the ones mentioned here can do more damage to your life your heart and soul than any man can imagine ..I speak from experience Thanks Dan for your great channel and to the person who sent this in
I had been working as a condo juristic person staff for 6 years in chonburi, and has witnessed the drama between foreigners and bar girls countless time, like watching a super drama movie over and over and glad that I left that job -.I think what happening it's due to different cultures and from expecting too much from the other . I'm not criticizing this except to say please use your brain and learn from other people's experiences to choose a good spouse.
Ground hog day with a difference. You made me laugh. 😂. A bit of deja vu for me
The Passport bros need to hear this video
Those guys just love the fat girls.
They should go to Samoa.
Crazy insight!…and regrettably all true.
This was my experience on point. Thank you very much for this insights and sharing it, so I know also other guys have this experience and I am not crazy. I am staying since 2 month in Thailand, most Bangkok. As soon as I did not pay them, they tried to call me the bad one and cancel any contact. But the reasons were most something else. Some tell me straight, they look for spoiling and they also think they are the good behaviour. Very crazy. Also they seem to need so much attention all the time. If you do not text them always, they clame you and stop. Very toxic and very manipulative behaviour. I think long term they will be very sad with this behaviour. After your video I understand it so much better with family abusing them. Seems the culture is exactly 180 degrees what I tought. Anyway, new culture experience and learning is not easy.
Thanks Dan , just discovered your channel and really liked your humour analyzing subscriber stories . Really interesting mind bending effects of falling in love. I married a Chinese woman and pay for most things but she does buy food make meals and works seven days a week . Cheers John
This video should replace the routine safety instructions on Thai Airways.
Great letter … definitely worth a think about
Thank you Dan for your informative information,I only wished I watched this a few weeks ago, signed trapped in Nam Phong. 😢
I totally agree with this. 17 years married to a woman from Amphur Satuk, Buriram. 4 years with a woman from Amphur Sikhio, Nakhon Ratchasima.
Your channel should be required viewing for ANYONE thinking of going to thailand. That said there will always be those blokes that think they are above being scammed. Thank you for posting such informative and relevant content.
you mention at the end of the video about parents demanding huge sin sods, there was a young couple i believe from changmai that wanted to get married, the couple both worked, im not sure if the thai lady wanted to marry with a farang or thai man, but i do remember that the father wanted a significant amount for sinsod, they didnt have it, and she had to continue working to raise as much as she could to get his approval, she was actually working for it too,, it was a real sad story,, the father was using this tradition to get money back for raising her and too profit from as much as he could from this situation,
he had all the power over her and her life,, that much i remember, it makes angry, sadly if i was involved with a lady like this that couldnt set boundaries with her father, or live a free life, free from such toxic controlling selfish parents,, it would be too unpleasant and frustrating for me to be involved with her and her family,,,
thats very sad, that's something too we need to consider, its on the top of my list when i meet ladies here, i ask about the parents,,doesnt matter their age.....,i did date women in their 40,s living with a single unemployed father, and i know first hand these ladies answered completely to their fathers, like they were still children, or replacement spouses, as mentioned in the video these are very unhealthy bonds, forms of abuse starting in their childhood= covert incest making a child an equal, like a spouse, all very childish.
Kinda agreed that the parents children bondages is sort of childish. In general, being an Asian myself I can relate to such a situation. However, being educated in a westernised environment and travelled extensively has actually made me more open minded to cut off this traditional bondages. I still honoured my parents however I do set boundaries that they need to respect me for my own independent and the choices which I made in life. Sometimes it might not be easy because of the cultural settings we are in but it is possible if the person is very clear what he/she would like to achieve in her own life
I have been here less than 1 year and I already see this. At first, I was shocked by how many single moms there are in Thailand. It's rare that I meet girls who had fathers around growing up. These rare girls seem to have a lot more morals than the single mom raised girls. I've also met a lot of young single moms who didn't want to ever marry. The Thai society is not really focused on the traditional family unit. Don't assume they are Asian so they are focused on the family. They are focused on obligations and resources.
I wouldn’t have guessed that being an African American man I’m trying to have kids in a culture where single motherhood isn’t. Maybe Philippines is different from what I’m hearing and being raised around some philipino friends I’ve never got the feeling that they are going towards destruction always represented maybe bit too much but close family unit
I think I will rate this subscriber's letter as the best and most accurate ever, his letter should be stamped on every passport when entering the land of scams.
It isn't all true. Women with the money is everywhere! I love my husband even though when we don't have the money. I never leave him or cheat on him with another guy. Even though I am very struggling with financial and life I wouldn't go to work bar to sell the body. I have a pride in myself. Go get a real job and make my own money! Don't assume everyone will be the same as you thought.
I don't and the writer doesn't, we both expressed that 10% of Thai women we meet are different to the rest, my X was different in regard to money she just had bipolar issues 🤷
@@thaitalkwithdan
Thanks for your explanation
Dan malee farm lady from issan area
But she just has mom to care for an think baby
Other couple people
She is hard worker former factory worker
Just like me Dan
In Ohio I grew up in poverty so know what poverty is so I will be glad to support malee if she will have me in long term relationship. I supporter my Latina Honduras lady from USA will send her money even though did not make what I do now. I sent my love in Honduras money but couple times she got robbed of the 300 or 299
Or 200$ from me each month can not recall?
Malee I am sure she will love me an want to be with me all time I am with her if we have long term relationship.
I do not know for sure till we meet in my Hilton hotel restaurant on roof of my hotel
Malee is a giver not taker she has given thousands of dollar to citizens poorer than her from what I seen on her you tube channels.
Honduras poorer than Thailand but if true love happens between us I will be glad help much because I love her much . Bible says in my faith husband sup 18:48
Dan, love your videos. Great truths 👏👏
Suggestion; use a separate camera or else read the script from a tablet. That way you will look more natural on screen.
Spot on, very good video. My wife and I lived in Thailand for a year. I have befriended many Thai's in that time observing how they interact with both foreigners and each other. I must say, I found they lack the social skills and intellect to keep even a moderately intelligent foreigner's interest in them. I also came to the nasty conclusion that they lack the ability to love their own or a foreigner. Relationships appear more parasitic in nature than based on love and affection. I personally would not trust a relationship with a Thai, for this reason I would advise men looking for love to treat it as a financial transaction void of feelings. That way both your feelings and money will be save while you get that itch scratched. This is just my own thoughts and opinion on the matter.
Average Thai IQ is 89, 11 points lower than US average -- a substantial difference. I love my Thai gf, but her interests are very limited compared to mine. And having an in-depth, intellectual conversation on a complicated topic is not her thing. But she is very sweet and loving. I've dated very high IQ girls and in general it has not been a success. They are anxiety ridden and have lots of issues.
yes, a very accurate observation, in general, I do find it distrurbing that many farang want to blame just the bar girl on this type of behavior, the man's story was not about bar girls, it was about the relationships with family, and anti social disorders they posess/inherit..but many farang do defend these ladies, but its just a matter of time till its their turn, there are some better people with better values and that come from better families here but they are not the majority, of course this is not limited to how they treat farang only. I met a man from issan, very educated man, he says the same thing about the ladies and families there....
Many successful marriages that begin when the people are relatively young go many years without many material fancy comforts, well at least they used to, not sure about today. Anyway, my point is that later in life these married couples will look back on that time in their marriage fondly. The struggle to advance and succeed brought them closer. I always suspect no Thai woman would be willing to go through this out of love and duty.
Good vlog and your 1000% right stay safe
great observation, I have noticed even the southern Chinese girls have this attitude, parents 1st
I am from Philippines all good and bad women is everywhere. You lucky if you found right good woman.
Anyways my boyfriend he will propose me next month he is from Australia. We are 3 years relationship but we never fight over money😅
I never jealous of him but sometimes he jealous to me for no reason😂. When he get mad I love to teas him and anoyhim till we friends again cause I don't like fighting.
We are so excited to have vacation this month going to Thailand to see beautiful places.
He spoild me a lot even I didn't ask him...I said to him why are u doing all this? He simply answered because u are different than other women I meet before you never give me headaches😂.?
are there many women like you in your city?if so, which city?
I'm 61 and my Isaan gf is 30 and gorgeous. She works very hard at a Bangkok hospital and supports her Mom and son. To help out, I've tried to give her money several times. She has always refused. When we go out to dinner, I'll pay, but she always pays for something else, like an after-dinner drink. She is very conservative when it comes to sex. I think what people think of as female Thai "gold digger" culture is heavily skewed by the bar scene, where the girls are only out for the money. Not all Isaan women are like that. Incidentally, she has mentioned that none of her friends will date farangs.
sadly you are mistaken about that, I dated a nurse, a marketing representative, pharmacist, and a general manager of a company, they were not gold diggers as such, although I encountered my share of gold diggers and women after support, i dont date them , i manage to screen them , i know shortly after meeting them what they are looking for....
but these professional ladies i did date,,, did have a relative usually a parent still influencing them, living with them or they were supporting them including supporting siblings, nieces, nephews ,, and most admitted to me they were very tired of taking care/supporting everyone including siblings at the request of their parents, and had no money for anything else..no time either. for a man in their life, which they seemed to want...
@@markmelanson6785 I agree with you about the girls wanting to support their family. That's how they are raised. My girlfriend sends her Mom $300 a month to help with expenses for her and for raising her son. She only sees them twice a year since it is a 6-hour drive from BKK to her Isaan village. What if I end up paying $300 a month down the road? Who cares? It's a rounding error to me. If we stick together, I'll probably give her a fixed amount every month to spend as she pleases, whether on herself or sending back to her Mom. To me, it's a bargain, honestly.
I'm a Psychologist from USA. I'm not sure we can apply Western Psychological DSM type labels on other cultures so definitively. Terms like "co-dependency" and "enmeshment" can only be cautiously applied. Mental Health is often a culturally dependent concept. "Healthy" and "Unhealthy" are subjective terms. This does not mean we have to accept cultural practices which offends our own sense of comfort and well being. We do need to protect our emotions, finances, and boundaries. We just don't have to do it with so much judgement and self righteousness. I saw a book in a library 40 years ago, "Romantic Marriage: A 20th Century Illusion." For millennia, marriage has been about survival and family ties.
"We do need to protect our emotions, finances, and boundaries. We just don't have to do it with so much judgement and self righteousness." The author of this letter stated that truth was his goal, not political correctness.
I have been living in Thailand for 4 years and I had many local romantic encounters and a few LTR’s.
It is true that culturally speaking, security supersedes “love” in most relationships in Thaïland. That said, if you take good care of your lady she will reciprocate above your expectations, provided that she is a good person, of course.
A woman with a good heart.
She will look after you if you don't abuse her.
She may even prove to be like the wise virgin as spoken of in the good book, the Bible.
@@robertgrey6101 Not sure that the Bible is a predominant part of the equation in Thailand.
The parents are not the only ones exploiting these girls!
28 years here lads. You boys are way too good for this in the main. Have fun by all means but understand these girls are playthings and nothing more.
In the Philippines if you marry a girl you are also marrying her family. The girl and her family are parts of one organism. She does not have a distinct sense of self apart from her family. When she was growing up they were always together 24/7 and she was almost never alone. Don't marry a girl there unless you love her family.
i was in a relationship with a filipina so i understand this organism, they sleep together as many as 5 or 6, 15-20 in a house/room ,it becomes like a hive, they cant leave, they just want to stay home with their families, very domestic and primitiver, but they are happy, of course as they continue reproduce they become poorer and more populated, hence the social problems and corruption, i think this is the case in issan, as well,, they live for today, find money for their next meal or someone to give to them, there are some educated philipinos working abroad that see this destructive irresponsible behavior of their people, and want better lives themselves,,but like thailand those with this sense of entitlement are everywhere, and they are surrounded by these people, like a plague
Been married in the west for 30 years..now single..my advice..money can buy you love..just make sure it dosent send you broke and you’ll get a good deal
that's some real talk
No, money cant buy you love. It can buy you gold-diggers and sex
Epic amount of truth and fact!
A lot of these women with personality disorders (especially NPD) have a lack of self-awareness or at least it's severely impaired. They know on a superficial level what they have done, but they will very rarely take accountability for their actions, and try and gaslight you into thinking you're the crazy one. Saving face can easily be translated into "escape accountability at all costs". A lot of these women have also been shaped by cultural toxicity and wrong family values. Of course, we cannot judge all of them. But hearing these stories sounds like a broken record.
very much npd and sociopathy are linked to their family traditions and being extremely enmeshed, also by ages of 11 they dont develop once they inherit these behaviors
The fact that so many of these women have personality disorders, as defined in the DSM5, speaks volumes to the toxic enmeshment culture addressed in this vid/story.
ya just keep poompin out those the good videos, good onya Darn, you,re a blooody legend matey! lol
Yes yes and yes..The Philippines too.... it runs deep
For the girls it’s just a numbers game…
very good vlog sir!
I've been with my Thai wife for 11 years now...we have 6 y.o. lovely daughter.
I was blinded by love and have spent a big chunk of my life savings(I'm 75) and am now at the point where my future financial health will be in doubt if i keep going at this current pace...
I have an ongoing dilemma about leaving money for my daughter when i pass, but also thinking whatever i leave her will get sucked by the family asap...
I would be grateful for others thoughts on this...thanks
JCB
Try and leave the money for your Daughter in a trust that only she has access to.
you made a child at 69? you have bought property right ...so just put into daughters name
You’re right, many men just don’t get this unfortunately.
Good Evening Dan,
I just came across this video.
I BELIEVE THE TERM OF A VIDEO LIKE THIS IS......... EVERGREEN.
If there is a way to identify this video WITH A "STICKY" it would be helpful to do so.
Thank you.
..Some things just Don’t change ..
Be. Aware ..!
I believe it's more than just poverty, other poorer communities in different cultures don't display this behavior. Basically in Thai "I love you" translates to "I'll take care of you and your family", anything short of that means you don't care about them...
I knew there had to be some kind of academic explanation for this crap.🤣🤣🤣One has to take the "It's my way or the highway" attitude from the start with clear boundaries.
My thai wife of 13 years was only interested in caring for her mother but 2 years ago her mother died and she changed. She now looks at me as her father. Ha funny but she is a good girl.
This is their culture. You can embrace it or turn away but you will not change anything.
I agree with the title of this video , the girl I liked, said exactly the same thing , love is love and money is money don't mix them ,
Wow
“Difficult wife” is a term used throughout the 🌎! Even my mom used to use the term “pill” to describe a difficult- unhappy woman!
Well if you can't handle her at her worst then you obviously don't deserve her at her best.
If these old Men with these girls 35 years younger than them think they are not looking for cash first they are delirious. If the men undestand what they are paying for and if the cash runs out so will they it will work. Basically a business transaction where both people understand the arrangement.
I’d never SUPPORT my in-laws , especially if my own parents are living and I ain’t supporting them, they better write a letter to the government 😂