Interior plaster over the cement board lime finish.
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- Interior plaster over the cement board lime finish.
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FYI, I explain what we’re doing in easy-to-understand terminology so that even my dear old granddad can understand what I’m talking about. If ole pops can, surely you can too.
Again, we are spreading our favorite base coat plaster, Structo-lite.
It usually sets between 3 to 5 hours, so not everyone is thrilled to use it.
I use additives or accelerators to gauge the set time of each bucket.
It can be applied by hand or machine over gypsum or metal lath, clay tile, concrete or cinder blocks, and other approved plaster bases.
Note: This base cost plaster feels gluey when applied.
This is a crucial reason why it cannot be steel-troweled smoothly.
I have found that If I want this basecoat smooth, it’s necessary to keep my trowel wet; thus, it won’t pull or drag the gluey surface.
Then, when it is set, we apply or spread a finished coat of Diamond lime plaster.
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This is gorgeous. Definitely going this route.
Howdy Project Dude, it is kind of cool looking. 💃
I started in the trades hangin blueboard for a plaster contractor in 74..
veneer plaster is the best I love the way it works and its durability.
You rock Kirk!!!
Howdy Looking at me Dude, thank you, happy to hear from you again my fellow plasterer.
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Damn, he makes it look easy! He’s learned what works and avoids the millions of ways to screw it up! True craftsmanship. Also the exact topic I needed info on, thanks!
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There is something so satisfying about a practiced knife/trowel stroke. After 15 years as a remodeler I'd say I'm finally pretty competent at drywalling. It's actually enjoyable vs a battle. Awesome content, thanks!
Couldn't agree more, Bob,
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Greg you mentioned that with taping mud you will be back 2 or 3 times well you are right if you regular joint compound but I have used 5 mint mud and no crack when I am floating out humps if I got a bigger area to work with I use 20 . Love youre work brother u are one the best tradesman I know .
Howdy Mario Dude, my fellow plasterer you my friend have a wonderful way with words. thank you,
I've used 5 minute mud quite a few times it definitely takes two guys, one to mix and to more importantly run the bucket to me as daylight's burning and one of theos 5 minute just got used up for delivery, so 4 minutes to apply, you must be fast and have coordination, I love this feeling of having to rush sometimes, anyway.
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I just had to leave a positive comment on your latest video.i do all my own work as I am in the trades and have been my whole life,(I was born into it-not sworn into it).you are my new addiction,it is such a pleasure to watch such an adamant professional such as yourself,i cant believe the few haters comments I have read on some of your videos.your experience and perfectionism comes across in your tutorials very well.the haters really embarrass themselves.also,the fact that you have children that work,let alone work elsewhere than a restaurant really is a testimonial to you sir as a father and a mentor.you just don't see the youth of today working hard manual skillset jobs and they are carrying on the trade.good for you sir as our trades are in trouble.
HowdyBilly, thank you, I have few haters, but folks even myself are prone to jealousy.
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I've learned so much from your videos sir. I'm about to tackle a DIY job that would scare off most people and frankly almost me but with the videos you provided I'm gain a bit of confidence. I'm sure you make it look easier than it is but none the less I want to look back and know I did that. You've helped me feel like I can. I've chosen an area to use as my practice area since It will be covered by bookshelves and cabinets as a workshop and hopefully as I reach the higher traffic areas. I'll post some videos of before, during and after and tag or comment a link so you can see it since in my mind you're an invisible consultant.
Thanks again
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Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. , I finally got a chance to take a quick video of the work needed to be done. Any tips for the rough spots I'm looking at tackling let me know. Thanks again for the wisdom you impart on the world through UA-cam.
Good morning Phatboy, you can mix a bit of veneer finish plastering to correct any imperfections, you can also use taping mud or spackling if you wish.
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So much great info in this video Kirk, thanks! I love your simple approach to using the color dust.
Hello Lynn, happy to be of help, cheers. 🥂
Kirk you are the man, awesome job. Your videos have been helpful and inspiring on my kitchen/ sunroom addition my father and I are doing. Watching you use that float made my wrist start hurting lol. Cheers from Maryland.
Howdy William,Dude, thats not a float it's it the Silver Surfer's Surfboard, that Marvel charter dude.
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Just found you on UA-cam . Awesome. I’ve been doing diy drywall for 20 years and always looking to learn. Just bought an old house with plaster walls so I need to learn some new skills . Thanks
Evening Jeff, no problemo, my friend.😉
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i love this , just relax sit back and watch mr. kirk do all the work😜😞 ,
kidding aside, good job sir.
Howdy Fuzion, thank you,
l love doing this stuff, more than walking along the beach.
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Very interesting Señor, I wish I could do that. Thanks for sharing another interesting video.
Howdy Tan Shi Dude, don't waste a wish, as you can do this, just takes a bit of practice.
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so much great info in these videos . thanks for all the tips and tricks
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Thanks for the information about using a concrete bonding agent to the concrete backer board. I have installed a couple such boards at the bottom of my daughter's basement landing wall and will use the bonding agent before mudding.
Glad to help
Lovely work Kirk. Big hello from all of us down under Australia 🇦🇺
Good morning Den Dude, my friend from across the pond, thank you and cheers.😉
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you make it look easy
Evening Brunkvic, it's just practice, remember this is what I do to keep food on my table.
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I enjoy your videos, you are a true master (black belt 7th degree) at your craft 🥋
Evening Gypsy dude, LOL.
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Love your videos kirk, keep up the good work, best wishes from over the pond
Howdy Jays me fellow plasterer, thank you
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Lovely work and superbly presented.
Good afternoon Anne, thank you, I like your style
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LOL .. After watching so many of your videos, when you said Izzy PIZI I answered lemon squeze
Howdy Dude, I'ts a goofy saying me English wife says sometimes, as it's kind of catchy, sort of like Cool Beans daddio.
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Another awesome demonstration...I avoid sanding as well and could never understand those guys who create massive dust storms while finishing drywall...I like to use a semi-smooth finish that only needs a quick trowel knock down of any crazy high spots then prime and paint...
Howdy Bee Friendly dude, atta boy, me too
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You make it look so easy!!!
Howdy Fred Dude, thank you, well I do have Jason who helps and makes the perfect mud, well most of the time, BTW, plastering is a two man job, I just apply it takes time to mix like Jason and or Louuuuuu.
So technically you're watching half the show, I get the easy part of applications.
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Great vid Kirk and Jay, have a good week 👍💩👌
Howdy Vegan Dude, thank you, interesting thumbnail is all that from veggies,
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Thank you so much......you inspired me to tackle a little job at the house and it came out great.
Evening Chris, you make my point, thank you.
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boss mode!! I'm doing stucco again with my pops!!
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Buen trabajo mi amigo. ... hello for New Jersey
Good evening Patt, from New Jersey. Thank you.
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This is what i was looking for, thanks.
Cool beans, Daddieo.
bravo kirk :)))
Howdy D.I.S. dude, thank you my fellow plasterer
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U make it look so easy... I know I know 30 something years 😀👍🏽
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it's all the practice.
You did say veneer plaster so it's a harder finish than a fast setting mud like usg 90 thanks kirk whenever I do repair work before my paint jobs I can look at your methods and fix anything exterior stucco-wise.
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In England here I would killed the suction with pva glue then used gypsum bonding (2 hour set) to fill out the low areas then used gypsum based multi finishing plaster.
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thats pure magic.
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Hi Kirk
What product would you recommend for plastering wonder board in the shower ?
The frame is quite uneven so after the wonder board has been installed with shims ,the wall is still a bit wavy
So we need to know what kind of products to use to flatten the walls and to make sure that the tile won't fall off
After the plaster
Thanks for your help
Good evening Sergey, use tile setting grout before tiling
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Thanks for all the informative videos. My home flooded this spring and I am now working to replace the bottom 16 inches of walls. Built in 1958 it has plaster over a type of blue board that came in 16 inch wide boards. I'm having trouble finding materials. I have drywall made for plastering, and Structo-lite but no place that I can find the Diamond veneer - what other brands do I look for? So far my plan is the Quikrete adhesive, structo-lite plaster (and tape) to coat out to close to the right thickness, then a veneer to finish. (and then texture to match all the different textures they did along with smooth) Any words of wisdom are welcome. Thanks! You-all are amazing.
Evening Sherry darling, please google plastering yards near me. You will find the material there for sure.
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Great video. I’ve been trying to paint the same effect with gray, black, and white but it doesn’t looking good. I’m going to give this a shot.
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2 sides to wonderboard..the other side is for plastering there are little holes all in it for the mud to grab, they gave you the smooth side meant to glue onto..
Neat, I didn't know that. Good thing he compensated with a bonding agent, which actually helps minimize the moisture lost to the board
I spotted that and started looking through the comments to see who else did . Your the only guys that did
Great video
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Kirk, I have an exterior area on my house that is soon to be a corner screened in porch. I have taken the brick off and have just the sheathing at this time. I'll be firing out the walls some and then covering with Hardie board. (I know you can stucco over brick but I've gone this route to allow changing windows, adding electrical and most important add dimensionality via recesses etc.) Through many views of your videos I stumbled on this video and have decided that this finish is what I want on the two walls I'm redoing. Though they are exterior they are under roof and behind screens so I do not expect direct contact with rain etc. Humidity will be a factor so I wonder if the Diamond brand veneer is appropriate? If not is there another product that is as easy to use as this appears to be?
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Hey Kirk!
I LOVE your channel. I've learned so much, thank you.
Question - I'm hanging cement board all over my bathroom instead of using sheetrock because I live in south Louisiana and everything molds. I was hoping to do cement board + red gard + bonding agent + veneer. Is that practical? Do I need a base coat?I've seen other videos where you just skimcoated stucco and want to clarify.
Thanks in advance!!
Robin
Good evening Robin, your plan is sound. with cement board no bonding agent is necessary as it's porous.
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Love your videos Kirk! We are plastering a gas interior fireplace that is covered in cement board. There is a beautiful limestone mantle that we just installed so will be plastering around that. Do I need to use a bonding agent on the cement board before the first coat?
I bought the Kemset ekoplast to use as the base coat and then will apply a plaster finish on top of that. Will that work well? I'm not in a such so dont mind waiting for the various coats to dry. What product would you recommend for a semi-rough skip trowel finish?
I got a bid and the guy said he would do the following: That is one coat of micro primer two coats of Matt venetian plaster marmorino/ compress/ wax. Is this better than the ekoplast base + top coat that I am planning?
ua-cam.com/video/Zh1aW1Tg_bg/v-deo.html/ Id recomend you follow the direction in this video. Yes, I would advise a bonding agent with any type of board as its suctions can compromise stucco or plaster adhering.
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Question: How do you achieve the look of "old plaster" the "burnished" look?
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Howdy Semid, just keep troweling and continue to use water this will happen naturally, if you don't use the water the finish coat will just burn and blister with possible spider checking plus no water when intentionally over troweling can loosens the finish coat often from the base coat.
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Hi, great video! Could you let me know how you attach the steel corner bead to the cement boards?
Hello Kirk, thanks for the good channel, your tips have helped me out when I plastered our entire master bedroom. I am now onto another project and would appreciate your input. I am putting in a woodstove heat shield. The shield needs to have a 1" air gap behind it for airflow overtook of the drywall, and a 3" air gap top and bottom. Originally we were going to do slate tile, but the tile company didn't want to tile the cement board to the base for the shield as it is free floating. Is there a veneer plaster or a product you would recommend that would be non combustible ? We were going to try and make the sheet of cement board replicate a large piece slate. Mortar was recommended to us with the use of various colourants, but I am unsure if you can trowel mortar like you can plaster without the risk of cracking. Your help is greatly appreciated!
Howdy what up dude, If it were me I'd use Structo-lite.
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Kirk, my man! I’m in the process of doing exactly what you did in the video-plaster veneer over hardier board around a gas fireplace. Prior to start, I made a sample board. When I applied the diamond veneer finish over the imperial basecoat, it bubbles and cracked as it dried. Any suggestions on how to prevent this?
Thank you and I appreciate your videos!
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Howdy AJ, sure, next time wet the base coat, then this won't happen.
When you applied the top coat the base sucked out the water too fast, this happens to the best of us.
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Hi, if you use plaster round a fire then it cracks. I'm a chimney specialist. Should use k-rend sheet mesh. Just like skrim tape but a meter wide in a 50m roll. Holds it better.
Evening Robert, I prefer to use stucco on top of a bonding agent around a fireplace or a veneer plaster on top of a bonding agent myself.
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Hi Kirk. Don't know if you are still checking this video, but I had such a hard time getting the plaster onto hardieboard. The plaster dried as soon as I applied it making it difficult to work the plaster. I tried spraying it with water, but ended up with rather rough looking plaster, which is okay but not the look I was going for. My plaster looked about the consistency of what you are applying. Any ideas what could have been going on with the drying issue?
Good evening Cynthia, of course, I know what happened two things, your mix was setting too fast, and the second was the existing wall was too hot or dry, so it sucked the moister out of what you troweled on too fast.
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The bonding agent Kirk applied also kills some of the suction. As far as veneer plaster setting too fast, don't over mix and use COLD water. The warmer the water, the faster the set. Also clean, clean, clean, equipment to avoid contamination.
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Okay so I hope you can answer my question, we read all over the internet to see if we could use Hardi backer on all walls in our bathroom and they said yes, mainly because we wanted to tile the whole bathroom, but now we realized we fell short and our budget won’t cover all the tile in our bathroom(had an emergency surgery for father in law which took most of our savings)
My dilemma: we installed the Hardi backer with the square side out and not the smooth side out. We bought enough tiles for the shower/tub area only. But the rest of the bathroom now won’t be tiled. We spoke with someone to see what the price difference would be and the plaster would be about $2,000 less than if we chose to buy tile as we had originally planned. What brand would you recommend using over this? We want to texturize it after to maybe hide imperfections if there are any so it wouldn’t be a smooth finish after. We really don’t know what to do at this point. Please help! Thank you!
I noticed in a video that Kirk recommended "Structo-lite" brand because it handles moisture (bathroom) better than other plasters. It sets in about 3-5 hours.
gardenstar77 Thank you so much for the reply! I really hope that the squares don’t show. A friend tried to help us by only texturizing over it to see if by chance that would work, and it totally didn’t work, which I expected. But my husband was hopeful. Do you know how “easy” it is to actually put the paste on the wall? I am looking to try and doing it myself because I have more patience. And I’m determined to make it look good. Lol
Good morning dude, sorry but I dont recommend any plasters in a shower, none. They all mold,.
FYI, I don't wish to add to your miseries but the hardy board in a shower is okay as long as you have a peel and stick membrane under the board.
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hi there - i am trying to stucco or plaster over cement board for an outdoor kitchen island - what products do you recommend for a bonding agent? what is a better application - stucco or plaster and is there a specific kind of stucco or plaster you can use without having to install a mesh? thank you so much
Evening Nadia, cement plaster will adhere to cement board by suction as they are both cementitious, no need for a bonding agent. I'd recommend rapid set cement stucco, I prefer to use bonding agents as sometimes the cement boards can be dirty thus the stucco won't adhere well, if you do choose a bonding agent,
quikrete or Larson's are perfect.
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Very informative thanks,
Greetings Larry, thank you.
Learn the right way the first time by watching and paying attention, not by "Trowel and Error."
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Great, thanks men!
Howdy Troy, cool beans daddieo.🍾
Oh man I've been wanting to ask you if this was an acceptable technique. I've done this a few times with good results. Inside and out.
And I mean stucco or plaster over cement board. I've never seen anyone do it but it made sense to me.
Howdy Chris, thank you, the product I used is for interior use, however I have covered all cement boards know to man outside with cement plasters.
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Hi Kirk, thank you for the video...i would like to see what the raw ingredients are for this and how they are mixed? here in Aust often this stuff comes in premixed buckets,which costs an arm and a leg and doesnt go far.
Evening Adam, type in diamond veneer basecoat and finish coat and hit images,
the bags should come up.
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Love your vids Kirk! I want to do something similar to this on a range hood above my electric stove. The range hood is plywood. Would I be able to tape the seams and plaster over that or do you recommend wonder board as a base?
Evening Breanne, you can but you would need to paper and wire the plywood then stucco.
Mesh is for sheetrock while stucco netting is for plastering.
If it were me I'd just buy a thin piece of marble or a different material that resists burning rather than go through all the work for stucco.
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It is a pleasure watching you do such a professional job on stuff like this I like doing this kind of work for customers they are so appreciative when it turns out well. I take it this was your own mixture of sand, color, and like a 90 min usg fast set or just regular plaster?
Good evening Johnny, both a veneer base and finish coat.
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Hi guys, thank you for all these videos. I am doing pretty much exactly the same thing as in this video. Hardiebacker cement board on fireplace below mantle and either regular drywall or blueboard (if I can even find it locally) above mantle. My plan is to plaster top (drywall) and bottom (cement board) using larsons plaster weld , then structolite then finish with either diamond finish or imperial finish (if I can find either finish locally). Does this seem like a good plan to you? Any suggestions/alternatives? Thank you for your time!
Good morning Ryan sounds solid to me. You can google plastering yards near me for the materials.
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Hey Ryan, I’m planning to do this in the next week. Curious why you would do a combination of cement board and drywall vs just doing all cement board or all drywall?
@@jasonmorley2359 hey Jason, I had to use cement board on bottom to be non combustible. I could also use it above mantel but drywall is just easier to work with and both surfaces will be plastered over so you will never know the difference. And fyi I'm now going to use imperial veneer base coat followed by diamond veneer finish. No longer using structolite.
Hi Kirk, is this a veneer "BASE" or can you start & finish with a Veneer "FINISH" over cementitious board?
Is the first coat a veneer "BASE"? Will the 2nd coat be a veneer "FINISH"?
Thanks Kirk.
Evening Jose, yes.
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Kirk I'm a big fan but you can temper bucket mud and 90 minute mud and it will not crack. It will stay wet but won't crack.
Good Morning Frost dude, as a rule, I rarely drop much mud, when I do I usually leave it alone,
but also realize if you just dropped some mud and it's clean it can be used again.
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What I mean to say is this. If you mix drywall mud with mixed up 90 minute mud and combine them together, they won't crack no matter how thick you make it.
Good morning Frost Dude, sounds logical, how about a 20-minute compound instead as we dont use tapping muds.
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Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. I realize you don't do taping muds. But it's still good info. I never use 20. It only makes sense if you temper mud that you use minimum of 45 minutes so you have some working time. 90 minutes is really like an hour. And 45 is like 20-25 minutes of working time. Also it makes the mud harder. But not as hard as a veneer plaster.
Good Morning Frost dude, thank you
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If i can't find veneer finishes at my local stores, is there a way I can make it by mixing let's say plaster of paris with normal plaster or something?
They are usually sold at plastering yards only.
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Hello Kirk!
Excellent video as always! I work in scagliola, a plaster technique and I want to do it on a wall. Do you think cement board and plaster weld would be a good foundation? The plaster I use takes a long time to cure and required wet sanding to finish. It is a modified Hydrocal. thank you!!
Howdy and happy Easter Mellissa, if you use cement board as your substrate you don't need a bonding agent, however, the bonding agent will slow the set time of you plaster a lot longer as the bonding agent will kill the suction.
If you want your imitation Marble to set or dry faster don't apply the bonding agent as cement board is porous, which means it absorbs moister.
It will absorb the moister right out of that imitation Marble and will dry it much faster.
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Hi Kirk thanks for the vid, That looks very stiff is it hard to spread ?
Howdy Will, sometimes the plaster mixed is loose and sometime it's stiff as in this video, when it's just right well, that's just too easy.
thank you,
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Hello Kirk,
I am remodeling my basement and I am right now at finishing ( closing) my walls but I do not like drywall.
Is it possible to put cement boards on the walls and then to plaster them with Venetian Plaster?
Is this a good idea or something similar you did on this fireplace.
I want to do all the walls this way.
Thanks
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Greetings Music dude, it's possible but far from practical.
If it were me, I'd hang sheetrock instead, if you can't find the blue or purple board hang regular sheetrock.
The apply the bonding agent, "Plaster weld by Larson,s." now you're able to plaster them with any veneer finish.
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Nightmare when the walls that out, in England we’d typically use an undercoat plaster first such as bonding to get it as level as possible, then two coats of multi finish after to finish it up
Morning my fellow plasterer, If it wasn't for mistakes like this, I'd be bored. 🍻
I built a large bounce back wall at one end of our sport court. I used hardipanel over OSB to make the surface hard to maximize bounce. My wife uses it for tennis and my sons for lacrosse. Could I put a layer of plaster over the hardipanel to make it even harder? Would it stand up to the elements and punishment from the lacrosse balls impacting? The ball speed is up to 100 mph. Thx!
Good morning, Id leaves it alone, vibrations cause cracking with all the stuccoes and plaster available.
If they hit the wall as hard as I do when playing racquetball, the stucco or plaster will surlily crack.
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@@StuccoPlastering thanks for the reply - appreciate the insight.
Well done thank you.. can I stucco over Harde board. My work looks like crap and need to cover it .
Good morning Mark dude, sure you can, I'd recomend a bonding agent first.
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Lovely work as usual! Where do you get your pool trowels? I haven't seen any like that particular one...
Howdy James, below are some links if you wish to purchase any of the stucco tools off amazon, BTW, these stucco trowels, Hawks, stucco scoops as well as the dash brushes and floats, can also be purchased at most of the plastering Materials yards, such as Westside Building Materials these are Plastering Material yards that cater to the professional plasterer, these yards are happy to sell to the public too.
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Thanks buddy! Love the flat end pool trowels! They actually make a lot of sense. Use square ended for tight corners and these for everything else. Makes the job that much quicker and more precise...
I’m still unsure what the veneer plaster is in comparison to what we use in England. It looks completely different to multi finish which is what we skim coat with. Same with your base coat, looks nothing like our bonding or hardwall backing coat. The only thing it’s similar to is the carlite ultra finish which is Grey and really creamy to use for the top coat
Hello, my fellow plasterer in the UK; both multi-finish and this lime plaster are so similar that if someone mixed it for us, neither of us could tell what was spreading.
I this video, I used Structo-Lite 50 lb. Basecoat Plaster is mill-mixed perlite-aggregate gypsum plaster, with accelerators as I wanted my basecoat to set within minutes, not the three to five hours it usually takes.
Then when the basecoat was set, we applied or spread a finished coat of Diamond lime plaster.
@@StuccoPlastering thanks for the reply mate, your stuff always looks so creamy compared to our multi, unfortunately there’s no chance of getting hold of it in England
Kirk, I can’t find any Diamond veneer in the NorthEast.. shortage? Any other veneers out there? Doing a similar fireplace project.
Thanks for the videos!
Bill
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Evening Bill, type in "plastering yards near me."
We are putting in a new construction fireplace just like this. Is there anything lining the fireplace opening?
Did you use regular drywall corner bead?
Good evening Leslie, I used "corner aid" for the straight edges.
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If the desired end result is an orange peel, could you apply the final coat wetter with a paint/nap roller?
Sure you can, as you know a roller with a nap of about an inch and a half creates a good orang peal finish.
Does the Structo-lite need to be scored for the veneer coat to bond to it? I’ve seen references to that in other places but looks like your basecoat layer was smooth. Thanks!
Evening Nate, no it does not need the horizontal scratch marks. Instead, the existing coat needs to be moist or wet to create the necessary suction/absorption to grasp the next coat.😉
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Hi, Kirk. Thanks for your videos. I'm working on a fireplace just like this, but I can't find any stores that sell the durock recommended Diamond Basecoat and Imperial Finish coat. All I can find online is the Imperial Basecoat and Diamond Finish. Is it okay to swap out the Imperial/Diamond from what is recommended? (And I will buy my tools through your Amazon links as a thank you for your help!)
Good morning Kami, I personally prefer the imperial base with the diamond finish, both are made by the same company.
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Howdy Marc Dude, man, I'm on my way. 😉
I have a question that I hope you'll answer for me. I have so little money but I really need to replace my shower walls. I was thinking about using the same cement board you used in this video them applying a smooth cement to it then sealing it. Do you think that would work? I really can't afford to tile and don't want to use those ugly shower wall panels. What are your thoughts? I'd be grateful for your input. Awesome video by the way!
Howdy Bailey, sorry but stay away from all types plasters, in a shower.
this includes all Structo-lite and plaster of Paris, these are both gypsum based, and never used in a shower.
You can apply lime based plaster although I don't anymore, as even these lime plasters mold fast and must be sealed every 6 months, who has time for this nonsense,
either tile or attach the plastic shower sheets.
You will like me still have to re-caulk every few years but your walls won't mold within a few months like every plaster known to man.
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Tiles are sort of the cheap part. You can get cheapo but "good enough" 12x12s from Lowes or HD for $.69 or so per square foot. I don't know the exact size, but let's say a 3x3 shower with 8 foot walls. 72 square feet, so right about $50 for tiles. Figure two $15 bags of thinset, one $15 bag of grout, one $15 thing of grout sealer, you're at $110 total for the tile material whereas most crappy plastic surrounds cost more. I know our garbage plastic tub surround we threw out was $100. The only difference with the plastic surrounds is you can mount them to normal drywall (you need a $15 tub of mastic and v notch trowel to mount it correctly, though) whereas tile needs the cement boards (which cost about double per square foot compared to drywall, but at least are easier to transport by car due to being 3x5...)
For mold and mildew and tiles, though, you ideally want a surface applied waterproofer like Aquadefense or Redgard, basically liquid rubber you brush onto the cement board and inbetween sealing all the seams and joints (with the joints thinsetted with mesh tape together.) It would add $50 but really guarantees the reliability of everything and not getting mold. You can as well use plastic sheeting behind the cement boards (cheaper) instead of this surface liquid, but the problem with that is it needs to be secure and watertight before putting cement boards up, and it's sorta impossible with screwholes/etc. The other problem is the shower walls dry out slower with plastic (or in the old days, tar paper) compared to liquid waterproofer. The cement boards are not waterproof, they simply don't disintegrate with water contact like drywall does. Water will still eventually permeate them, and go to your studs/etc. My first plaster tryout was on a scrap of Hardibacker, and a single Hardibacker sheet easily can absorb probably two quarts of water no problem, I had to spray over a quart to get Structolite to stick with no bonding agent. Think of showers now, and how much water would get absorbed in say, a house with kids, and quickly you could see why waterproofing the surface would be a good idea. In other countries with real masonry walls, you can of course get away with a lot more, because instead of 1/2" cement, you have 4-12" of cement to absorb it all, but even that's sometimes not enough and mold and concrete degradation happens there.
So thinking of plasters, I kind of wonder if with tadelakt and similar waterproof plasters in showers, if possibly some/all of the mold issues and general problems could be averted if they were applied on top of something like Redgard or Aquadefense, as their couple millimeter layers could dry out quick, and no water would get soaked into the cement boards or drywall (which would never work at all without waterproofer as the paper of drywall itself is the main mold food...) and sit around. I already have tile bought for my own bathroom project, so only the dry areas of my bathroom are getting plastered, so I'm not gonna gamble with trying a polished plaster shower right now, but I kinda feel like a liquid waterproofer on cement board would give it a decent fighting chance.
Good evening guys, I personally, from using many different shower finishes over the last 30 years, prefer tile, not the inexpensive stuff but quality.
I have had the plastic sheets in my lower shower for about 10 years, it's still going strong although I have to change the caulking at this point.
I have many pails of Stuco-Flex at my home as of now and feel no product that is waterproof is as good, it's an Elastomeric topcoat that contains a pure acrylic polymer, mildew resistant and flexible, but still won't use it in my shower, anyhow,
FYI, under any cement board, one should use a peal and stick thick membrane as even the thickest or tarp grad plastic sheathing will rot in just a year or so
best wishes to all no matter what you choose.
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Don't know if this was asked or mentioned in this or another video. The amazon link shows 13 different Kraft trowel sizes. Can you specify which size trowel is being used?
Good Morning Justin dude, there is a wide variety of trowels, I would suggest a 14X5 as it's a medium sized trowel,
Some beginners may use a 12X5, I find this small trowel does not hold enough mud and waists too much mud as it's not long enough,
then there are the folks like me who prefer 16 to 18-inch lengths as they hold a lot but are a bit tougher to control.
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Is easy sand considered a vaneer plaster? You know the 20 40 min mud sold at home Depot. It does say it has plaster d Paris and limestone on the bags.
Good evening knight rider, easy sand is gypsum unless they have changed the formula, and added limestone, this would transform gypsum into a veneer.
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What is the white paste that you used? Thank you!
Structure - lite
Kirk. Love the video. I've got a similar fireplace design I'm working on. What did you use to attach the corners to the cement board?
Howdy James, I sed roofing nails but you can use sheetrock nails too.
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I'm always nervous to bang nails in cement board as it tends to crack/crumble. And tips to keep in mind?
Howdy James dude, nail as far from the corners as possible, this is why I used roofing nails also as they are srronger,
besides no mater if the corners did blow out plaster covers all mistakes.
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Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. Great tip on the corners. They went on nicely. Just tried my first coat but ended up scraping it all off because it was starting to crack and heave all over. I'm using USG diamond venneer plaster at a peanut butter consistency over cement board. What can I do to prevent?
Howdy James, I suggest you finish your project and not worry about cracking as there are too many reasons to explain in this comment,
When done simply skim a bit of diamnod over any cracks.
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What brand do you use for color in the veneer finish?? And how much do you mix?
Evening Brittany, I used a Lahbra color coat bag. There was no way to get an exact finish unless I spent hours figuring out the formula.
I said I'd tint it but absolutely no guarantee on color.
By the way, if you type in the search title, how to mix colors, a video I should several years ago appear to show how it's done.😉
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Can I use quickrete base coat and quickrete finish coat for this? I couldn’t find diamond veneer base coat only finish.
Evening Ben, these are exterior cement plasters.
Try structo-lite, you may have to go to a plastering yard.
Type in, "Plastering yards near me." they sell Imperial and Diamond basecoats as a rule.
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have you ever used Santa Barbara Exterior for interior ? over cement board after brown coat of course? is that trowel a Curry? if so what did you brown coat board with ? cool Video was that Diamond Wall
Good evening Trowels Dude. Of course, I have applied every exterior finish sold to interiors, mainly on ceilings, as if you use on walls, the sand scratches the skin off your arms.
This was a diamond veneer finish I applied. It was indeed a curry trowel, and yes, all of these products can be used to any cementitious boards.
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I bought a house and there was black mold in the bathroom on the drywall. I tore everything down to the studs, put in a new bathtub and toilet (sink is still coming). I put cement board on all the studs (now drywall that can get moldy again!) I wanted to make a totally airtitght, watertight bathroom that cannot get mold damage. (I lived in Asia for 10 years. In Japan and Korea, bathrooms have ceramic tile on the floor, all walls and sometime the ceiling. Wash everything down with bleach and hot water and you have a sterile bathroom - far superior to what is common in the west). However, tiling looks a lot easier on youtube that in real life. I put up some tiles but I am just not satisfied with my work. I want to take them all off and put this veneer plaster on the cement board. My question is, is it totally impervious to water, humidity or water damage? If I put cement board on the floor, can I use this veneer on the floor (to make an easy to clean floor)? Also, "veneer plaster" sounds like a generic term. Walk into Home Depot where the immigrants work and ask for any specific product and they almost always stare at you like you have three heads. (They have no clue what you are talking about.) Could you recomment a name brand? Thanks so much! You're a life saver! This looks much easier than tiling!! :)
HowdyTrevor, I too believe ta proper tiling system to be the best there is for keeping mold, and it's invisible toxins at bay.
The foundation of any bathroom should have a proper waterproof barrier laid down no matter what substrate a person desires, even more, important and less understood is a superior exhaust system or mold will happen no matter how watertight a room is.
I have been dealing with this issue for the last 4 years too, my walls are watertight, but I can't seem to find the proper exhaust system even though I hired this out to professionals,
a bit frustrating.
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What’s a good alternative to structo-lite? The area I live doesn’t have any available.
Howdy, you can only purchase structo-lite at plastering yards. An alternative is Diamond lime base coat, it too has sand for strength. Or you can you a gypsum/lime product such as any fast setting joint compound.👨🏫
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Yo kirk, what's the idea of putting cement board on a chimney breast
Howdy Jays, I'm just the applicator not the architect or engineer.
perhaps it was to withstand the heat, but if built proper I thought the heat should go through the fireplace flue.
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Would you feel comfortable doing this system on the exterior of the house?
Good afternoon Patrick, this is a finish system engineered explicitly for interiors.
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Jay dose it ever crack when it dries
Howdy Lydia, very rarely, but it can happen for many reasons.
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So is cracking an issue when you go thick? Asking cuz its cracked on me before..on the first coat
Good morning Ben dude, with all products they take time to understand how think they can be applied.
If it cracks apply another thin coat over it.
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Hi Kirk....Was the base coat a different product from the finish coat....not referring
to the color difference?
Good evening, Joseph, the finish was diamond veneer plaster
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