Why Jessica Lange Couldn’t Save Sam Shepard | Rumour Juice
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Jessica Lange and Sam Shepard had a tumultuous romance that lasted for almost three decades. But that relationship was doomed to fail. Were they just too different to make it work? How did their chemistry work? In today’s episode, we’ll discuss the romance of one of the most discreet Hollywood couples. Stay tuned!
0:00 “We’re an incredible match”
1:46 What did destroy the bond?
4:04 Lange was trying to rescue Shepard
7:04 Their happiness couldn’t stand a chance
Why Jessica Lange Couldn’t Save Sam Shepard | Rumour Juice
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What is 30 years together, a failure? A tragedy? They chose their paths, which finally took them apart, but that's not a failure. That's their story, and that's their business.
I love the way you stated this!
Exactly, you're emotionally intelligent. Not mistakes, just choices.
I agree; 30 years of choosing to stay together can be many things, but failure ain't one of'em. Emotional Hostage Situations, not included. They can appear to be consensual but dig deeper and there's usually an anchor that both may not even be aware of; perhaps that's because very few parents have mature, adult conversations with their kids about what "Love" means to them and what they value in a relationship, and manage to do so without pushing their agendas along with their views.
I was fortunate to know them professionally, and I think "dull moments" were rare when they were together. Triple AAA Celebrity status without any of the high maintenance most expect.
Depends on how u see it. An affair w him leaving a family behind is a cracked foundation. She stayed bc of her children, yet he felt guilty for leaving the first wife. No thanks.
Well said @petersdotter1
Lange is one of a handful of actors that continues to get stronger during the course of her practicing her craft. She just keeps giving incredible performances & I love her for that :)
Some actors are just a treat to watch on the big screen in whichever movie.Lange is one of them.
I found this very sad, I remember the chemistry, oh they were so crazy for each other, she was gorgeous and he had a mystery about him, they seemed the perfect match, she stayed 30 yrs and he kept coming back. I think they still loved each other to the end, they just couldn't be without each other but had to for her sanity as he had this deep failure within him.
I'm sure she misses him. ❤
I liked them both and I had the biggest crush on Shepherd back when I was very young. He's beautiful to look at.
I’ve been in love with Jessica since “Frances”.I performed in several of Shepherds plays throughout my career. Both of them are genius. I thank them from the bottom of my heart for their sharing.
I wonder what it's like to constantly have people fall in love with you? Is it a burden? Is it flattering?
One of the most beautiful women ever.. She is just a natural beauty. I ll always remember the movie Tootsie. She was unbelievably beautiful in it. And she is a great actress.
Miss Lange was excellent in Frances.
@@jstone247 I really liked Sweet Dreams.
30 years together, I'd say that counts as making it work even if they eventually split up.
One of the most beautiful female stars of our time ,and a woman who sacrificed so much for her kids, but they both loved each other, could of times left the marriage but now Sam is gone ,no regrets for the love of her life ,much respect to Jessica a true woman with value and commitment.
Nicely said . Much respect. Happy Saint Patrick's Day 💕🍀☘️💕.!!!!!!!
Not married
I can relate. My life long relationship had many very similar aspects to this one. And the love of my life, for forty years, just died a few weeks ago.
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@@justlina2769 so sorry to hear, but have faith that you will meet again on the other side, the body dies but the spirit lives on ,and my condolences again ❤, stay strong.
I always thought they were a sexy and romantic and smart couple. I'm sorry he died way to soon. Jessica still putting out the juiciest performances. Such a beautiful complicated mysterious woman. GOOD FOR HER!
Jessica Lange is a Hollywood ledged! We love watching her in the American Horror Story series, she's so versatile and an unbelievable actress!
@@RumourJuice she is a national treasure.
Definitely one of the most interesting
Hollywood couples.
We totally think so too, Helen!
J.Lange should get the Golden Globe Lifetime Achievement Award, or the SAGs AA, --actually all achievement awards there is! What a talented woman!
Talented, beautiful, smart, kind, charming ... our list could go on!
Far more talented than Meryl Streep. Jessica would have made August of Osage County a brilliant movie.
it's not up to women to save men, the situation sounds abusive
Because that’s exactly what it is. Abusive.
A narcissist
@@annofcleavers5791 Unfortunately, you are correct. After the addictions are dispelled, the Narcissist appears.
@@seriouslyjoking2 There can be no permanent change with a narcissist,it's only temporary,once they have you where they want you they revert back to devaluation of you,narcissists are narcissists until they die,I know through bitter experience.
@@annofcleavers5791 nazi?
So very sad! You can't fix broken people! Many people try loving that person more to compensate for that person's lack of self love and worth. In the end, it is not your problem to own or to fix! It is theirs and theirs alone! I applaud Jessica for trying! God bless her! So heartbreaking! 💔
Sam Shepard was a genius and, now that he's gone, we're lucky to still have the plays. His profound writing reflected his own complications. I wonder if he ever had therapy and, if not, I wish he had.
I followed Shepard for years and read many of his books and plays. I even have a signed first edition of Hawk Moon by him. The Motel Chronicles was another good book by him. He was abused by his father. He was a charming intelligent guy but who also seemed to have a mean streak and a coldness to him that you see in a lot of men who were battered and physically and emotionally abused by their fathers.
tortured souls are hard to live with, at least he did voice his regret for not being there for family
Someone told me to never meet your heroes. Always remember who you thought they were. Great video.
So true
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100% agree. Feel a little different about Sam now.... Jessica was always pure class!
There are a few exceptions to that rule, like Viola Davis and Meryl Streep. How cool is it to become close friends with one of your biggest idols growing up?!
They were really the essence of Monroe and Miller. This video is a beautiful tribute to Sam and Jessica.
It's my out most pleasure having you here, thanks for your support you have been giving me all these years, I won't be here if not for you my lovely fan.
Utmost pleasure, you handsome man!
@@wilmahyche433 May I have the pleasure of knowing your name and where you're from
@@keanureeves6257It surprised me that you replied, a very pleasant, I may add. I meant a very pleasant SURPRISE! I am originally from Atlanta, GA. Living in Missouri for 3 years now. We brought up our kids in FL and they are still living there. Thinking of moving back there. We have lived in a couple of other states, also. You have always been one of my favorite actors for a long time. You have aged much more gracefully than some of the actors your age. In fact, much more gracefully than all of them. You are a very adaptable actor. I just couldn't resist making that reply because it was YOU! I have heard you're a NICE GUY and I can see that you are. I saw where you were on a subway and got up to give your seat to an older woman. Very gentlemanly of you. Of all the actors out there I am so glad it was you I got to speak with. You're my favorite and always will be. By the way, I am 70 years old but I will watch any movie I see that you are starring in. Gonna bring this to a close. Thank you so much for your reply 😊! Gonna subscribe to your UA-cam page.
@@wilmahyche433 Thanks. With this medium, I pray we get along well at our convenience, as I don't want to be seen as a superstar but as a commoner in the society.
I went to middle school in North Hollywood with Sam Shepard's first wife, Olan Johnson (known professionally as Olan Jones.) Her mother, Scarlett, ran one of the first hippie communes there. She was about ten years ahead of her time. At the time, in 1962, I would not have figured Olan would marry one of the legendary, multi-talented sex symbols of the late 20th century.
They never did get married.
@@kathleenlindquist4799 Sam Shepard and Olan Jones were indeed legally married. That was Sam's only legal marriage.
Jessica Lange is one of the best EVER!
Living Legend!
Not bad looking either!
OMG!!! I Saw Sam Shepard A Few Years Ago While Shopping At Ralph's I Was Soo Shocked That He Was Soo Tall And An Absolutely GORGEOUS Man Even At His Age😍I Told Him Too!! He Was Soo Amused And Threw His Head Back And Let Out The Biggest Laugh😂 Woww Jessica Was Really Blessed And Lucky To Have A Man Like Sam♥
Always a big fan of them both and it broke my heart when they parted and when he passed on. One of Hollywood's hottest men and actor. Jessica is always an Oscar winner!!
She is an incredible actress, very intense
They are both amazing actors ! at least them were together a long time ..hang on to that .
You guys definitely should do a video on Elizabeth Taylor and mike Todd
Thanks so much for the suggestion Angela, we'll definitely look into it! ;)
Angela: I believe if Todd had lived, Liz would have never married again..
Her performance in Francis was epic. Haunts me to this day.
Agree harrowing to watch
When the passion becomes less , the love must EVOLVE .
Elizabeth Taylor felt the same way about Richard Burton and even after 2 marriages they couldn't even stay together.
Both men were Scorpio's, that is a challenge.
@@CorpseBride64 So is alcoholism.
@@richardmcleod1930 most definitely.
Frank and Ava too!
The list goes on and on....Mickey and Ava, Lana Turner and just pick the husband.@@marknewton6984
She is one of my favorite actresses. All her roles on AHS were absolutely amazing and flawless.
An interesting yet complex relationship and lives. I've read Johnny Dark's book on Shepard whose own father was also an alcoholic., so it's epigenetic, meaning it gets passed on from one generation to the next. Also in the Bible, "The sins of the father are visited upon the son". Read also that Jessica broke her collar bone and arm after falling down the stairs. Not attibuted to Shepard's drinking? A couple of other things that Shepard mentioned was that "men lie", so he may have been lying about that incident which has been covereed up in the media and that "the great American tragedy is that families fall apart", which we see all the time, not just in Hollywood, either. After my 42 year marriage ended in widowhood, I can relate to some of this. Not trying to stereotype, but it's a known fact that a great many actors/writers have been and are alcoholics if one knows the great Irish writers/actors as well as American ones and others from other ethnic backgrounds! Shepard also stated he couldn't live anywhere east of the Hudson River, so after they moved to NYC, he probably felt out of place and then bought a horse farm in Kentucky. Lange also stated that when they broke up it felt like a divorce so it doesn't matter whether there's a legal paper involved of not, feelings are feelings. I love what the French Parisian women say that learn this from their mother's knee from the time they're little girls, "It never ends well"! You either break up after an affair, go through a divorce after getting married or end up a widow or widower, so enjoy it while it lasts if you can! They're very pragmatic about love relationships which most of their French films are about! Experts on the topic! Lange probably has had her own co-dependent traits as well! Their personalities attracted each other i.e. their passion, but it was hard to hold that relationship together along with their other personality traits, "for better or worse"! I'm sure she also felt like a widow when her beloved Sam passed away from Lou Gehrig disease, ALS! May he rest in peace.
You mean Two Prospectors: The Letters of Sam Shepard and Johnny dark?
You can't have a healthy relationship with an addict of any sort. Addictions are usually signs of underlying trauma, like in this case, his father's drinking. We usually get in relationships with eole as healthy or unhealthy as we are.
@@brianwalsh1401 You are so right. No one can have a healthy relationship with someone who is UNhealthy. However, I don't agree with you on how addicts become addicts. I know one who became an addict due to mental health issues as well as traumas. When they become clean, that is when the mental health issues are discovered...as well as the traumas & other unhealthy behaviors. This will never change as the sick parent will create trauma or not address trauma/mental health issues when it occurs passing on the generational behaviors. Alcoholism is a coping mechanism for not necessarily a physical addiction.
@@seriouslyjoking2 I'm an addict. I have an addictive personality. My parents were both addicts. My siblings are all addicts. It doesn't have to be drugs or alcohol to be an addict. I think most addictions develop in childhood from not having your needs met and or abuse of some sort. Dysfunction is passed down from generation to generation.
I think there are other ways, like you mention, that addiction can occur but I think most are caused by having a hole in your soul that we try and fill up with addictions that will never do it. We have to work on our issues and unresolved pain.
Very well said.
Thirty years isn't a doomed failure.
love them both so much
They loved life so much that they each thought they had forever
It's sad how things fell apart between them because they had a love for each other 😥💓💔
I can't tell if it was love or co-dependency; he seems to have CPTSD plus addictions but it sort of fits on narcissistic personality too. No, I am not a therapist, maybe that's why I can't tell.
But they had a deep love for each other, yes he was flawed but from the beginning that chemistry was electrifying.
@@Lyrielonwind oh no it can’t be that they loved it other it must be some condition. SMFH 😣
@@Lyrielonwind I'm with you on this one. I think it might be all of the above. Narcissist and a co-depependent. Hollywood is filled with narcissists because they're great actors been doing it all their lives. He had a perfect narcissists relationship where he gets to do what he wants and she lets him.
@@StilettoCutsQuick. i agree with you! 'co-dependency' what a crock! as humans guess what we all are dependent on one another, it's called 'nature'. smh
I always liked both of them.
Only guy I ever envied...
Ela é uma excelente atriz👏👏👏👏👏
''SOMETIMES .........LOVE ISN'T ENOUGH ''
Love both Sam and Jessica's work. I've always loved her voice and her natural sexiness.
I just love Jessica ! I think when I watched King Kong I wondered who she was. I love all her movies tho I have missed maybe one or two. She’s so down to Earth and a midwestern like me!
So beautiful and such a sexy voice. She’s always been one of my favorite actresses. I remember being a kid and seeing Tootsie and thinking that is the most beautiful woman ever. They were so cute together and I am so sorry it didn’t end well
I LOVE BOTH OF THEM !!!! I GET WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH : A BEAUTIFUL COUPLE WHO LOVE TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES !!!! HUGS BLESSINGS SALVE BELOVEDS 🙏😇🗝🌸🌿💖🇺🇸✋💐🎁💝🏅 R.I.P. SAM SHEPHARD 💦😞💖🌸 SHANTI
You'd think that him being a lone wolf and her being a successful and very sought-after actress would be a good fit. Regarding Sam's quote at the end; I realized years after my divorce that I first became interested in my ex because I saw myself in him.
Hmm, I would not call men like him misterious, because they seem distant and keep dissapearing when whenever they want to. They are simply emotional cripples and cowards. Relationships that have only hemistry/passion as a foundation are exhausting and doomed. It so sad how many women don't know what self-love is and how to preserve yourself.
He was punching above his weight
After watching her in 'Sweet Dreams', I saw her as the real Patsy Cline. Great actress. She lived in Stillwater with Sam, 7 miles from me.
Beautiful Lady.
Both great talent and human beings
I love my mama but can you imagine how great it would be to have Jessica Lange as your mother? 🙌🏼
They were a stunning looking couple like a Brad Pitt Angelina Jolie of there time ! 💞🥰❤️🥰💞
I doubt they’d want to be compared to those two.
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Brad and Angelina 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
To me its pretty simple. She is a very strong woman. The dynamic of the relationship was between her strength and his weakness of character notwithstanding his great talent. In the end Jessica is a successful actress but very standard and Sam a mysterious one of a kind talent.
Nothing is harder to deal with than an alcoholic Scorpio!
A Scorpio period! But an alcoholic one - Hell No 😂😂😂😂
They both were truly brilliant together. The problem IMO is they were so beyond par, remarkably past individual stories and experiences. It's too much to bear, for the both of them.
"They broke up decades after she said that. How does that makes sense.
It was a cheezy movie but liked her in Blue Sky
Her long, overdue "Best Actress Career Oscar." They delayed the release for two (?) year's; I forget why.
I thought she was great in that movie. A very touching performance.
Great performance!
It's hard to keep love alive when one of the partner's a heavy drinker.The moods swings the passive aggressive behavior all bad for relation ship.
They stayed married! No marriage is perfect! We all experience changes in life, as we age. Most of the time, women outlive men, and end up alone. What counts, is, how u adjust to being retired ,whether u r famous or not.
Their romance was unbelievable. But finIte.
What a wonderful life.
Sam and Patti Smith were close
What a woman.👏💜💙🧡
2009 & 2010 So many breakups !!! My did too. Duluth huh? I was born there too.
When he died she had no good things to say about him at all in the press.
so sad. she must have had a traumatizing experience with him to be like that at the end
A love story
I saw Jessica Lange at the airport in Los Angeles many years ago. She struck me as unfriendly and dismissive, didn't want to be bothered for an autograph when I approached her for one.
She probably didn't want to be approached or bothered.
She’s at the airport how would you react. An airport is not the time and place
@@Phoeberuthless It was a quiet, not busy car rental office in an airport in LA. She's a celebrity she can stop, be cordial, and scribble a signature for under 30 seconds. It's not a lot to ask from someone who earns millions made possible by fans.
She's a very real person she doesn't expect to be idolized like some kind of a god. I have spoken to a few celebrities in the past when Wilmington North Carolina was a hotspot for movies in the '80s and '90s, if I had the opportunity I would just let them know that I enjoyed their work and they were always appreciative of that. Not all actors are walking egos that expect to be objectified and idolized.
He unfortunately struggled with alcohol and was a mean drunk. He beat her bad in 2009, broke her collarbone.. I believe she said she fell at home. 2 years later it came out that they split in 2009. For his part, Shepherd admitted he mistreated her in a 2014 interview. He was a brilliant, but tortured artist.
Beautiful ,talented, actress. And Sam is a favorite
Not sure who he is but she deserved much better. She was fabulous in Rob Roy and King Kong was really good too.
Sam was an amazing playwright!! He also was an actor but very well known as writer.
I wouldn’t label it ‘traffic’.
Alcohol. Alcoholics are restless.
You have to love a lot to spend three decades with a person with addictions and ignorance.
This is not for me because I love myself always first...
Sam was lucky to have her and put up with him!
What a epic love. Kept the ring?
In the famous words of Prince Charles, "Whatever love is".
What about JL's relationship with Mikhail Baryshnikov?
Thanks Sab, we'll definitely look into that one ;)
She had a chlid with him, I believe a daughter. They were together in the 70's, before she met Sam Shepard. I read that they got together because at the time Baryshnikov could barely speak any English, and she spoke French with him.
I loved ger role playing Joan Crawford.
Oh yes, she was so mean in that movie. Someone you would love to hate. The line "no more wire hangers" will be remembered for ever.
Faye Dunaway played Joan Crawford not Jessica
Faye Dunaway played Joan Crawford
Yes,Faye was in the major movie. However, there was an HBO movie where Lang played Crawford, and Susan Sarandon played Bette Davis. Afred Molina was in it,too. Loved every minute of it!@@10colleenanne
Never saw it as I don't have HBO
She was great in "Music Box". Check it out.
That was a great movie. She found out her father was a war criminal from WWII.
Music Box one of my favorites.
Alcoholism destroys so many lives.
I loved Jessica Lange and Sam Shepard. Jessica is a great actress and Sam was a very talented writer. I think Hollywood and stardom really messed with his soul. When I was a young teenager I dreamed of finding a man like SS and being madly in love like I imagined them to be. When I found out they split up I was sad for them. I found the love of my life and have that crazy wild passionate love. We are still together 30 yrs later and still crazy about each other. Wished they would have made it to the end. From what I have read she didn’t go see him when he was bedridden at the end. And he was with some young girl right before he was sick. I think people need to cut him a break. He was a proud dude and knew what was to come with the illness. I think that is why he started drinking heavily again. Rest In Peace Sam 🙏. And I hope everyone finds passion in their lives and that one great love ❤️
A real tragedy
Hot talented and she spent decades being a distant 2nd place behind the bottle
The addiction is always above everything else.
Sam Shepard was never married to Jessica Lange. He was married to actress O-Lan Jones.
In her prime BLUE SKY ? NO ONE had more SENSUALITY.There are better lookin women in Hollywood ,she is at the top in my book.
omg she was amazing and so was Tommy Lee.
Blue Sky was great!
I hate the typing sound as the text unravels. We had enough of that with "Doogie Howser"
Typical Scorpio and Taurus connection.
I remember the rumors of him abusing her, like she'd have a broken wrist one month, had "fallen down the stairs" another. I don't doubt he beat her.
After Shepherd died, Jessica was asked for a comment, she could only say what a complicated man he was.
Oh, this story gets boring.
For someone to be so beautiful and talented yet so insecure. I feel Jessica Lange was always attracted to damaging men. The Russian ballet dancer and Sam Shepherd. She wasted her life on these two. I bet if you ask her she’d wish she had this time back to do differently.
She left the ballet dancer, and he wanted her to stay. He went on to have a wife and family and a good life.
@@JB-3794 She left him for a reason tho. I read he was a serial cheater.
Basically he cheated on his former wife and cheated on Lange. And was a severe alcoholic. Nothing romantic about either of those. This is a silly puff piece.
Drunk. He knew he could have both women and booze.
Why are you so afraid to say what he died of. He had ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease, Anterior Lateral Sclerosis.
I didn't know that, that's too bad he was so ill with such a devastating disease.
Yes! Very strange that it's still stigmatized. If you look closely at his movement in the film version of "August: Osage County," you can see that his movement (all while sitting in a chair) was starting to show the first stages of what, to me, appears to be out of sync laterally.
Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis.
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After making so many BORING movies (lol) Her American Horror arc really did seal her legacy. Its stiff baffling to me how she gave up that project after only 4 years (AHS Apocalypse doesn't count) and continues to talk down to the series. She can waste years on a toxic relationship yet not commit to the best project shes ever done. What a shame!
That Canadian or northern state accent of the narrator is distracting. 👂
He was given not save sexual life
Of course the relationship didn't last ,it didn't start honorably!
Sort of quick to judge, aren't you? I would say that "honor" is in the eye of the beholder.
I never found him interesting or handsome, poor couple
He looked like an alcoholic!
Sexiest woman in the world at the time
Or any time!
So, Jessica was a home wrecker. Shepherd didn't think enough of her to marry her. That often happens when a man leaves his family for another woman, he realizes she wasn't worth it but he can't go back either. Shepherd didn't "stay with Lange", he left her as offend as possible and I doubt he slept alone all of those nights away either. Actors and the romantic stories they make up about themselves.
Yes. S/he who wrecks a home wont have one.
As for homewrecking: he was the one who was responsible for his own marriage, not her. I don't understand why the woman is always blamed when it takes 2 to have an affair and he chose to leave his wife for her. He did propose to her, he said so, which means he did in fact want to marry her. She's the one who didn't want to get married. She wanted to stay with him but didn't feel the need for an actual marriage. And even after they broke up, he stated very explicitly that, while he felt bad about leaving his wife for her, that it was 100% worth it (because of course it was-- have you seen Jessica Lange? Watched her? She's mesmerizing). The fact is they did stay together for 30 years. They probably both had affairs, who knows (they do both have a history of it), and I'm sure there was some toxicity: but they kept coming back to each other. He even wrote about how they couldn't live without each other (not sure that's healthy, but it is what he said). Their relationship was a muse for a lot of his writing, which should tell you plenty. You can see that by the way they looked at each other, even right up until the end of their relationship, that they were very much in love. Both have implied that had his drinking not been so much of an issue, they probably would have stayed together until he died.
So yeah, definitely not the healthiest relationship: but the way you characterize it comes off oversimplified and a tad misogynistic.
@@valerirutland2468 The woman is blamed because men are weaker to sexual temptation and flattery than women are, men have a much stronger sex drive that these home wreckers take advantage of and the fact is that every marriage will have very low points. Women who stand in the in the wings, waiting to sweep in and take advantage of that inevitable situation are, in the kindest description possible, criminals. Men shouldn't have these weaknesses but they do and everybody knows it. People who exploit it are lowlifes and it always backfires eventually. I'm pretty old and I've never seen a case where it didn't backfire on the home wrecker spectacularly, though they may swear they don't regret a thing and are happy....it's a lie.
@@paulascott5701 men do not have a stronger sex drive, they are just socially conditioned to be more comfortable with their sexuality. This has been scientifically proven. Women are sexual too (especially the one in question) and that's why they too are susceptible to affairs-- it's very rarely some grand scheme to steal someone's man just because. She was with Mikhail Baryshnikov at the time, one of the most desired men in the world. She didn't need another woman's man. It just happened, passion got the best of them. According to her, she never intended on staying with him: it was gonna just be an affair, but they fell in love. Jessica was not the first affair Sam had had on his wife, he had been cheating on her since long before he met Jessica. But she is the only one he CHOSE to leave his wife for.
They must've really seen something in each other to stay together for nearly 30 years. Again, it wasn't some perfect fairytale but to slut shame a woman and give the man a pass, and then act like she's just trash and deserved to be treated as such by the man who CHOSE, AND CONTINUED TO CHOOSE OVER THE YEARS to be with her, is beyond sexist and gross. This is the same kind of narrative that perpetuates rape culture. Even if a woman gets assaulted, all of a sudden it's her fault because, "Oh you shouldn't have worn that skirt, you know men just can't control their sex drive." It's a load of bullshit.
I'm wondering if you even watched the video. If you had, I wouldn't be having to tell you that 1. He wanted to marry her, 2. He said even after the breakup that being with her all those years was worth it, and 3. That she said it didn't start with the intention of them running off together.
@@paulascott5701 A relationship or marriage does not mean that the partner becomes our possession. Whether people remain faithful to each other is a matter of will, willingness to sacrifice their fantasies, and libido for the sake of bonding with another person. Marriage is just a symbolic ritual with no guarantees, no binding contract. When it comes to betrayal, the role or behavior of the temptress doesn't really matter. Because women anyway, consciously or unconsciously, will always compete with each other for the attention and desire of men, and there is no ethics here.
I was on the same boat with them transporting tourists from one island to another in Mexico. They sat on opposite sides of the boat from each other each one w a child. They never acknowledged each other. The things that stuck out to me: it was very hot and humid and he was wearing a coat and her forehead was huge. Neither looked especially attractive in real life. Screen magic apparently.
I met her once in 2018. She came into the convenience store I was working at and bought two pints of Ben & Jerry's. She was very nice. I didn't even realize it was HER until she left and another customer told me. It was a Sunday afternoon, and she was delightful.