My 8 year old electric van will never have a MOT - here's why
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2021
- A lot of people have asked about the MOT exempt status of this 2013 Renault Kangoo ZE - I explain a bit about it and also talk about your feedback on the broken heater from the last video!
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Our first car, an Austin A35, was not fitted with any heater. Back in the 1960s, I fitted a little electric heater bar to demist the windscreen. It was never intended to heat the car interior . We just wore coats, scarves and gloves!
Thankfully I’ve managed to repair the heater but it was definitely looking like this was the way to go!
The heated seat cover things are really good. Bought mine from Aldi 2 years ago for a tenner and it's still going strong..
Like the new camera, works well.
Straight away noticed it’s Gloucester Quays!
If you are ever up near Kingsbury in North Warwickshire there are 8 bp pulse 7kW sockets free to subscribers. Not shown on the bp map but I have added to Plugshare.
On your dead heater...has it got OEM door mirrors fitted? There is a temperature probe under one of the mirrors. On those vans, the heater will only work if the temperature is below (from memory) 10 degrees C. To test heaters before, I've had to put an ice cube on the sensor to force the heater to kick in. Maybe if the mirrors have been replaced (common on vans) with cheapie mirrors, the sensor has gone, or not been connected.
But as you say, it could well be the HV fuse.
Interesting. Is it on the NS mirror? I think they’re OE but there’s a big chunk of the casing missing on the NS 🤔
Thanks for the update. I think as more full electric vans hit the roads in the UK the MOT exemption loophole will be closed. Also, if accidents due to unsafe exempt EV vans increase, insurance companies will greatly inflate premiums and possibly call on the government to make MOTs on these vehicles compulsory.
Already has been closed - anything registered after 1 March 2015 needs a MoT as usual. Guess they saw it coming!
@@ModernHeroes Of course! You did mention that in the video. My memory is getting worse. 🙄
Hope that fuse is easier to replace than the one in the first gen leaf. 6hrs is the leaf job. Eek also try powerdrive in Malvern. Ex indra employee. He fixed my leaf heater 4 years ago.
🤞fingers crossed it won’t be too difficult!
I have a 2014 Kangoo ZE LL21, bought at BCA Glasgow through Jonathan Porterfield at Eco cars Feb 2020. I haven't used public charges yet with the Kangoo but when I had a Zoe, it was okay on the Podpoint 22kw AC only chargers but I could never get it to charge on the Podpoint Rapid charger at my local Lidl, that also has CCS and CHadeMO. I was rather shocked when the ZE arrived as I opened the fuel flap and it said diesel!! I then found out it had a diesel heater fitted at the factory! But this was not mentioned on the auction details. The diesel heater is in addition to the standard heater and I haven't bothered trying it, as like you I'm trying to avoid burning stuff. A nice upgrade I've made which is useful in a work van, is I have managed to fit a Kenwood DMX7018DABS radio in the space on top of the dash. It gives you a 7" touchscreen, handsfree phone connection, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and has Waze satnav built in. You can also plug a reverse camera into the unit. And by fitting the right adaptor loom, I have retained the Renault remote controls. I look forward to seeing what else you get up to. I haven't MOT'd my van either as it gets regular checks on tyres, brakes, suspension etc
That sounds pretty good, adding a unit with a screen to the weird empty bit on top of the dash. My van definitely doesn’t have the diesel heater - there’s just a massive blanking plate under the fuel filler flap 😂
@@ModernHeroes the unit fits because it doesn't have a CD player so its quite a short unit, it is nicely shaded by the dash. The hardest part was making up a surround, as I couldn't find anything from all the audio guys. (A great job for someone with a scanner and 3D printer). And you just get a single DIN pocket to fill the hole left by the standard radio.
You're making me want one. Camera angles work.
Editing was painful though - I think I need a better computer 🤦♂️. I reckon these are properly useful vehicles if you have a need to move things around locally. Rapid charging would increase the utility no end though.
You’re going to save yourself an absolute fortune in the life of the vehicle with no tax and MOT costs
It's offset a little by the dreaded battery lease - but you're right!
@@ModernHeroes If you're keeping it for a long(ish) time, you may as well pay Renault for the battery purchase. At that age, it must only be about £2.5k or something!
@@computerbob06 awful lot of £25 payments!
Really dont like the fact of any vehicle electric or fuel powered being exempt from an mot. That will lead to potentially loads of unsafe vehicles on the road especially ones who dont see the inside of a workshop due to a diyer who could still miss or ignore potentially dangerous issues. All vehicles need yearly mot's until their date with the crusher.
I don’t think it’s the crisis you’re making it out to be - there aren’t that many qualifying vehicles on the road to start with. Plenty more that scrape through a MOT every year but that are in truly horrifying condition.
As with milk floats, you may not need an MOT but the vehicle needs to be roadworthy for insurance purposes and to be legally on the road. So having an MOT test would help to confirm this.
It’s only going to be an issue with insurance if an accident is caused by something that would make it not roadworthy - a car that scrapes through a MOT but has a terminal failure some time later would be treated exactly the same.
Only a fool would believe electric cars won’t need MOT, the more there are on the road then the rules will change.
Just like the grant for new electric car suddenly went down.
If the use of petrol and diesel goes down too far the loss of duty will magically make electric bills far more expensive.
One thing the government won’t miss out on is the income from vat on fuel, that loss will have to come from somewhere else.
@@stevenmoran4060 my van is never going to require a MOT - I’m certain of that.
Heated seat the way to go , or eat beats but that would involve flames
i would get the heater from amazon then if it is useless then you can return it for free.
pod point do seem to have more connection problem. it took me 10 minutes to confirm a charge because it kept refusing to connect to server
Definitely thinking about giving it a go out of curiosity more than anything. I’ve never had any issues with the PodPoint app, just for some reason with this van it stops supplying power after a certain amount of time! Really odd.
Skip to 12 minutes to hear the answer about the MOT, like the video title might lead you here
First day on UA-cam is it? 🙄
Actually no, but I find it a tad annoying having to listen to something for ages just to get the answer to the video title.
I do generally like your videos as an MG owner
Suspect asking EV trained garage to do an Inspection using an MOT check sheet on Kangoo not difficult.
Even less difficult to check those items myself though! Not sure why you’d need to be EV trained to check the items that would be an issue for the MOT.
@@ModernHeroes you wouldn't but if chose to have heating fault investigated at same time at a garage.....
Those 12v heaters are utter pants. Dont waste your money.
Just buy a 12v power inverter and use little fan heater
"We need to stop burning things", well said!
Typical!?.... Poundland Glasgow have a bargain bucket on AAA batteries. Going cheap.
English mot system never worth the paper written on
If more ev vans hit the road guaranteed you will be paying for mot's and road usage better known as road tax the government will and have to charge to recoup billions of lost revenue on ice vehicles as more take up ev's also current battery technology is old hat and new technologies need to come they will be very expensive to replace after warranty basically ev's will be throwaway vehicles so not really environmentally friendly
Why do people crow on about increased taxation? It’s currently far more expensive to use an ICE vehicle, right now, today. That isn’t going to change - any rise in cost that affects EVs will also apply to ICE.
This van is very unlikely to require a MOT in the future - it is exempt!
@@ModernHeroes Mm money talks and when everyone has ev's the government will make them as expensive as ice vehicles money is the great leveler ev's are only cheap to run at the moment because they are such a tiny percentage of vehicles on the road this will change over time when they are dominant over ice vehicles
Yes, they’ll be as expensive as ICE vehicles are today, I have no doubt about that - but ICE vehicles will be EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THAT! 🤦♂️
@@ModernHeroes I agree