The only people that fail in these situations are the planning departments and designers that build industrial estates that can't take full size trucks
Agreed, though in this day and age its all about money and greed, squeeze as many buildings in the smallest amount of space. There are plenty of industrial estates here in the UK that should never have planning licences for industrial premises. I know one small ind est near brands hatch, its right in the middle of nowhere and village, all access roads to this area say " unsuitable for HGV`s".
@@remas851 Because he might have a bit more experience? And because you're filming like a right twat? Maybe you could've helped guide him in, because you seem to be the best there is according to your other comments. Muppet.
I would hardly call it a fail, he got it round the right way with no damage it’s not as easy as it looks.The best bit of advice I was given when I first started driving articulated lorries was “ make sure you can get out before you go in.”
There seems to be some folk on here talking rubbish about having to work your way up the classes in 1993.... I passed in 93, straight from a car licence. And as for this bloke here, I know him and he's a nice bloke who actually only passed his class 1 a fortnight before this film was made. That bag of shit truck he was driving is the starter motor for fresh drivers to drive untill they have built up some experience. Plus what makes it worse is the air leak as he has to keep stopping to rev the nuts of it to build up air. The place he is at is actually known to most drivers here and is classed as a "rigid collection" so the office shafted him.... But in fairness, he got it out and no smashed up truck or cars so that's not a fail in my books!! He still works here at Bratts and now drives a 105xf.
Licensing rules change. Back in 93 there was no multiple choice questions, they came in around 98. Then they introduced the hazard perception after that. Anyone that got a car licence before 97 got a category C1 and are not required to take a 50 question case study and a demonstration test to get a DQC(cpc), they can just attend a 35 hour course. Only if you were in the army was you able to get a HGV at 18, now anyone at the age of 18 can, used to be 21. You must 1st pass cat B, get all you medical and provisional sorted out and then take cat C. Once you pass cat C you then get a provisional for C+E. Its been like that before 2006 but if remember correctly you had to wait 6 months before you could apply for C+E and now you can do it back to back. One old guy told me that you was able to go straight to an artic with no license what so ever, double LL provisional or something, dont know how true that is.
Unfortunately this is a culture in Britain to mock anyone who is just trying hard to do his jib. I'm a bus driver and can tell you many of my colleagues left the job coz some idiot, low life passenger sit there and all the time speak behind the drivers' back! Pathetic
@@danielosdinia4258 People after their teenage years who take the bus either are fine with it and don't need a car, are alcoholics or are unproductive members of society who take in social benefits and could not fathom having to do a test to see if you're a danger to other drivers and their young kids, don't be so hard on yourself
Well done for keeping his temper listening to all the idiots giving him advice, when they probably couldn't drive a screw in. Excellent driving mate in such a tight area.
Never will fully understand people who film situations and post the footage and spin it so negatively, it says so much about the individual filming way much more than the situation they are filming. Such a sad, simple, narrow minded individual with a blinkered outlook, zero empathy or understanding, a bit of excitement in their empty void of a life they struggle through. I may even wonder if the person who uploaded this who hides behind the name of remas851 is trying to feel better about their own life inadequacies! A strong confident human helps and encourages others meanwhile an inferior human lacking confidence tries to deflect and distract from themselves so desperately and sadly so obviously.
I worked for this company and this was one of the oldest and most shittiest trucks they had. He’s done a great job with the tools given, I’d tell you that
I remember my first day out on Class1 in 1979. blind side reverse up a narrow alley to a building site on a roundabout in Hartley Wintney. You go from pulling an empty tandem axle trailer on Friday when I passed my test to a triaxle flatbed loaded with 25 tonnes of plasterboard on Monday morning. Nothing prepares you for that first day out. Fair play to the driver here, he got the truck out safely with no damage to anything, and did it while being filmed and having several "experts" all shouting out "instructions".
Whether in USA or UK, if incoming or outgoing loads were thought about when building factory, give the damn trucks the room they need. It just blows my mind how factories negate what is needed to receive or ship their product. If you can not make the room, make a distribution warehouse where room CAN be found. Move with straight trucks to warehouse and ship from there and vice/versa.
The UK, just like many other countries in Europe tend to not have the abundance of space like the US tends to have. Our trucks also tend to have countersteering axles on trailers to help with our narrower roads. I take it the situation was pretty normal at first, but there then was an addon to a building or a new company being built and this was ignored. The same is true for many loading docks in Amsterdam for instance, they were designed years a go for small trucks but not for the giants we now-a-days have.
Can imagine the suits designing the layout of the goods in/out dept. . . . Yeah how about a nice tree here and a really awkward curb there for no other reason but aesthetics.
The first part of that manoeuvre is called reversing on your blind side, when you look in your left mirror all you can see is the side of your trailer nothing else, the guy done fine this wasn’t a fail, in fact he done the right thing got out his cab and eyed up the situation himself and took his time
My dad always told me if your not sure get out and look as many times as needed , you'll be a twat if you hit something for not getting out and looking and the potential investigation from your manager if there's damage.
@Lancashirelad Slow and easy is fine in most circumstances. But seeing how much gas it needed for the clutch to bite without stalling, that thing is clearly overloaded.
@@TheFree33333 It seems also that the content of the trailer was heavily unbalanced. It constantly wanted to tumble to the right side. At first I thought it was due to the pavement being sloped towards the grass area. But even at the end when the truck is perfectly level and in line you can see the trailer top still pushing to the right.
I used to be an artic driver. Ill health made me give it up. Your comment Jim999 is very welcome and very humble. Well done, I really respect you for that.
They have probably done it on some game somewhere and they think it's easy. Don't think they realise real obstacles cause real problems and real damage.
Maybe we should get these internet experts to reduce the HGV driver shortfall, they all seem so perfect, oh i forgot taking only one test to drive makes them experts to hgv drivers 3 or four driving tests of course. hahahaha, he did a really good job considering he was driving a MAN which has a really crap gearbox for this kind of driving its ok in germany on the autobahn but bloody useless in this situation where you need feather touch control and a gearbox that thinks you fancy full throttle no, oh sorry, what you want to go ? full throttle? no oh sorry, its a crap gearbox and the loss of air, oh my god why is it only MAN drain air so easily?, I think MAN are the crapest trucks on the road.
Me too trying to blindside off a busy high road with a twenty foot single axle trailer. Took me forever probably the most pressure I've ever been under.
Are you serious people. He is absolute rubbish with no idea whatsoever. The only reason he didn't hit anything was because he had someone there watching and yelling at him. He no control over that single whatsoever. What dickhead actually gave him a licence.
@@grantheath8547 you've no idea what you're talking about. I was in one of those older MAN automatics today. They're notoriously jerky. I doubt you'd have any better control over it
On year 43 love to see somebody starting out and still love the opportunity to help anyone if I can, I never forget even after so many years that I'm only as good as the next corner..
No fail here at all; this particular unit on this industrial estate does not in any way shape or form cater to artic trucks with 45 foot trailers, not to mention people with no banksman training whatsoever just shouting "woah" every second. The word is "STOP!" The driver got on with it, took it in his stride, got the job done and managed to remain calm, professional and smile throughout. The fact somebody took a video of this merely reflects the fact that a vehicle of this size rarely visits them to make deliveries, it's clearly a spectacle to them. Furthermore, if anybody else reckons they could do a better job, then go do it. I guarantee most of the people heckling in the comments at the driver would most probably have a panic attack in this situation.
Well said. I'm not an Hgv driver, but ive been watching a few vids and thought here 'why are they hollering crap' at the driver, nothing is clear and just sounds awful if you were sat in the seat. As you say, smiling driver, calm, the job was done.
Can't see no fail there,he's turning correctly with the room he has.im amazed his brain didn't go overboard with all confusion with audience around him
Totally agree. 👍 I do this since 25 years and think he did right to get out and have a look at the blind side. Could have been easier but who on earth is perfect? Main thing is to have no damage, so that guy did his job as good as he can.
This is at worksop , there all fucking pillocks in that yard standing around when your driving in,god knows what they do/sell because most of the time there just standing outside smoking and being nosey with whats going off at other units
Honestly, I hear my driving instructor for the regular car already in my head: "Did someone get injured or even die? No? Did we or someone else suffer damages? No? Did we only had to wait 3-4 minutes longer than we normally would've had to? Yes? Then it's not a fail." I'd say I call the guy in the blue shirt standing at a position where the driver can not see him much more of a problem given that should the driver backup fiercely he might not be out of the way quickly enough, along with it being a lot more comfortable for the driver to know everyone is out of the way.
@Marc Caldwell If you can't reverse your vehicle imo you should not have a license to drive that vehicle. Whether that be a car, bus, truck. It is so important to know how to reverse yet so few people actually can even in a car
My name is David John Turnell. In 2002 I was a university lecturer in Brazil. In 2004 I was driving HGVs in the UK. I have a degree, masters and doctorate in engineering, but the hardest thing I ever did was the second HGV test and survive the following 12 months on the road. HGV drivers are the dog´s bollocks. I´m back teaching in Brazil now, but still have nightmares about HGV driving.
As long as you get in done without putting a scratch a unit or killing anyone who gives a fuck been driving for years every one makes mistakes still making them now any one who thinks different isn't a driver actually doing the job day to day FACT
Not a fail here at all because unless you've tried to turn a 44 tonner in a tight spot like this you have no idea how difficult it is. There is no rear window in the unit which makes visibility very poor, also he's got an MAN fitted with a ZF automatic which is an absolutely horrendous truck to drive. Clutch on these is like an on off switch. If he had a Volvo FM it would be a lot easier. The guy on the fork lift must be some kind of idiot.
I was livid when they took my 13 speed away and gave me one of these automatic MANs, thankfully automatics are better these days but I'd still rather have the manual.
Every HGV driver has been in this place at some point. I got my first Class 1 job this August and the amount of times I've looked like this while reversing, having other drivers come out to guide me in, trying not to oversteer, unnecessarily blindside reversing because it looks like the only way? It happens and the only way to get better at it is to keep doing it. You learn every time you do it, or so I've been told. I say fair play to this guy. In a MAN as well, which are known for shitty gearboxes too? I'd be bollocking myself in his shoes.
Was going to say the same worse fking thing ever take ur clutch away bag of shit they were /foot on or off no control going on a bay till u hit it and rock the loading Dock
different times and equipment, that MAN Wasn't to bad (oh yeah,.. it F£"$% stalls,... as you can tell it got the job done). so disagree on that one bud. You are more likely to be a Scania driver by the sounds of things
Seeing some of the places trucks like this have to go, I think he did good, I don't get how shopping centers etc can get away with providing such tight and dangerous bays for truck drivers, they have some skill especially in Europe UK and Ireland.
Most shopping centers don't need a full truck of goods. The normal process is to have a dispatch hub. Huge trucks handle transfers between hubs. And smaller trucks do the local delivery tour. When a train full of tourists arrives in town you don't send the entire train on a tour to every single hotel. You receive it in the station and taxis and buses handle the local dispatch. That's the same principle. If the huge truck doesn't fit here, that's because he was never supposed to get here.
Favourite sayings of warehouse staff and customers. . . . ." The last bloke got it in easy " . . . . . . " your gonna be here a long time drive ". . . . . . . " we're just going for dinner " . . . . . . " what time do you call this ". . . After 34 years I've packed it in and got a life.
Actually he was an experienced driver, people on the ground no nothing about how HGVs can get stuck, he got it out eventually without any damage to the tractor, the trailer was ripped but that is down to the operator who gave him a defective kit.
I’m having a flashback moment. If you haven’t had one of these moments then you ain’t a proper trucker. Had my first one in Tesco at Fenny Lock. Massive yard and I just could not get on the bay. A Stobart driver stopped me and helped me out; he was laughing but he was also a legend.
Bold Robert we've all been there remember following a diversion sign that had been moved by vandals one night, ended up on a housing estate with a full size double deck trailer. Nightmare. Called the highways agency the following morning to complain and apparently I wasn't the only driver that ended up there that night.
@@armchairgeneralissimo drove a 2012 P400 tractor with A/T for a while a few years back that had clutch, great for slow maneuvering, especially in any yard with an incline, in my current job I was put into a 15 daf xf auto while my 06 xf manual was being serviced, they take a ridiculous amount of time for the clutch to bite, again no fun on a steep hill 😂
Heart goes out to you. Had That experience before. Non Wagon drivers giving instructions, and you get ratty. If you're up for helping the driver.., watch the trailer from behind. Believe it, or not, We DO know how to Drive, YOU'RE not giving clear guidance.
I did this job for 10 years and there is always a cocky i know best idiot who thinks they can do better running around the lorry.........oops sorry they probably could.
Rusty Bullethole I call them spectator 'experts' you can hear them yelling driving lessons and instructions. Their side kicks also happen to be very critical amongst the You tube panel of 'experts'.
I'm new to truck driving and it is very difficult getting out of places like this especially in an artic no one really teaches you this either your reverse manoeuvre on test is like nothing compared to the real world every day is a learning experience but I love it
I am not a truckie, I drive pcv's. With an artic, once that cab is turned, mirrors are almost useless, so in a tight spot like that, everyone around can see a hell of a lot more than the poor sod in the cab. I take my hat off to all truck drivers.
If that was a manual then terrible clutch control, including the stall and if its the auto box, then why oh why when manoeuvring in tight spaces like that did he just not use The 'RM' and 'FM' (reverse and forward manoeuvre) selections, this would have been so much smoother and none of that jerking. But to be fair to that driver, he kept his humour about the cameraman and youtube, did not get angry like some do and completed the task at hand, good on him 👌🏻
Yes, I agree no fail I can find here. It is so tiny in many places in England and this MAN with this large cabine shakes a lot. Well done to the driver!!!
No fail ...good job ,amount of times I arrived at a delivery/ collection site’s and you get that world famous sentence “ we’ve had bigger trucks than you get in here “ ....dog of a truck to reverse in MAN , worse thing they did was make trucks automatic 👍
When I passed my test, I came back to the depot from testing station and was asked to move some trailers around and put on dock. Twenty-one shunts later it was on but not straight. I truly was a crap lorry driver. How I passed was a miracle. Only on the road for a year and gave up. Best all round really. Probably saved many lives.😊
MAN trucks have a automatic gearbox but they do have a crawler gear, can be used for hooking up to and unhooking from trailer and slow speed maneuvers, as for turning around, I would have simply reversed back the way I'd gone in:)
Reminds me of the type of gig that makes me glad I don't drive wagons any more. The number of times I got sent in an artic to places where an artic should go... and then you get people hooting at you or complaining that you are there, as if you took the thing there just for a laugh rather than having actually been told by your boss to take a truck there. Yeah, mate, I'd really rather be sat on a beach than blocking your road with my wagon honest but if I want to pay the mortgage, I have to. I am in awe of the driver in this video, I would have been raging and I think the bloke in the forklift beeping would have sent me over the edge, I think perhaps I don't have quite the right temperament for driving wagons! 😄
yeah they are a pain in the arse . MAN's do have a maneuvering setting on the gearbox though which makes it much less "on or off" , he said have used it. Or left foot braking helps
***** Can still stall an auto - I've done it! Lol! And that gearbox is similar to the ones fitted to the older Ivecos - and they buck just as much - worst truck I ever had was a Stralis!
Automatic gear box, who ever thought these would be a good idea on trucks is a complete twat! I refuse to drive them outright, they can make even the best driver look like shit.
It beats me how places that need to be accessed by an HGV manage to get planning approval without sufficient turning space for an HGV… this is a planning fail, not a driving fail! PS, having a camera pointed at you whilst you’re in a tricky spot is an unnecessary distraction, but he did well to keep his mind on the job in hand, and he got out with no harm done.
Or maybe the place was never supposed to receive HGVs, and didn't even have a need for that because their reserve can only hold the content of a small local delivery lorry. But the truck company managers decided they could cut on trucker salaries and buildings costs by having the HGV driver do all the local delivery tour by himself instead of delivering all the goods to a dispatch center with smaller lorries for the final delivery.
If you look at the back wheels they were locked on, Guess it probably only loss air but it made the turn 100x harder to do, mecanical fail I think not driver
This guy did not fail. He got in and out and hit nothing. If you have never got yourself into a sticky situation like this then YOU DO NOT DRIVE A LORRY.
Obviously who published this video has some problems in his life. He just want to think that he is better than other people. People like that are happy when others have some difficulties in doing something. The only "fail" here is the owner of this Channel!!
Stupid places like that I always reverse in then you know you can get out .or walk in and check it out first looks like a rookie mistake to me I know cos I've made them myself 😀
That's what lorry drivers face everyday with no proper industrial estates and lots of cars parked everywhere...this is the spirit...Close your eyes and fingers crossed...
The only fail here is that he failed to spot that he had nothing to deliver as some thief had cut a hole in his curtain and took the stock while he was parked in a layby overnight!
If this is a fail, than my first few months are utter fails. Remember when I started driving, I couldn't even make a day without a small scratch or something, then I tried to make a week, than a month, now I hardly do any damage at all because I was hard on myself for the misstakes, and did everything I could not to do it again, and now I get calls all the time and if I see a new driver struggling, I rush to help in witch ever way I can, knowing that I was in his spot a few years ago, I would never take my camera out to show others to feel "good about myself?" And when 10 people are shouting at me with 10 different commands or tell me how to drive, I get out my the truck and tell them to drive it, if I have 1 guy helping me out that's perfect, I would rather take it safe and slow than to rush, because that's when misstakes happen.
when you are a lorry driver ,,, the only problem you have is a space, it is constantly the main worries , but with time you start to see space which absolute absent for the ordinary mind
The only people that fail in these situations are the planning departments and designers that build industrial estates that can't take full size trucks
Agreed, though in this day and age its all about money and greed, squeeze as many buildings in the smallest amount of space. There are plenty of industrial estates here in the UK that should never have planning licences for industrial premises. I know one small ind est near brands hatch, its right in the middle of nowhere and village, all access roads to this area say " unsuitable for HGV`s".
so why 20mins before this driver other lorry turn in same spot in less than a minute?!
@@remas851 Because he might have a bit more experience? And because you're filming like a right twat? Maybe you could've helped guide him in, because you seem to be the best there is according to your other comments. Muppet.
@@remas851 smaller trailer surely and driver might have got info after pulling into location about how he was getting out,lol.
@@brammanuel2829 twat and muppet is you! go get your benefits and popcorn to hate other dhead 👍
Top marks to the bloke. Incredibly difficult task for the driver both mentally and physically. Nothing to be ashamed of at all. Well done mate.👏
Come on if you drive trucks we all know that was not hard lol
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@@James-bc1jk Agreed lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I would hardly call it a fail, he got it round the right way with no damage it’s not as easy as it looks.The best bit of advice I was given when I first started driving articulated lorries was “ make sure you can get out before you go in.”
That goes for all trucks. Even in an 11m rigid I recently drove. Thing had an absolutely terrible turning circle
Shit driver hurry up ⬆️
Thats not always the case I had places to unload where I could come in but after people parked their cars I could get out
not to mention how ridiculously heavy that trailer looks
was driving this lorry its wery old crap
There seems to be some folk on here talking rubbish about having to work your way up the classes in 1993.... I passed in 93, straight from a car licence. And as for this bloke here, I know him and he's a nice bloke who actually only passed his class 1 a fortnight before this film was made. That bag of shit truck he was driving is the starter motor for fresh drivers to drive untill they have built up some experience. Plus what makes it worse is the air leak as he has to keep stopping to rev the nuts of it to build up air. The place he is at is actually known to most drivers here and is classed as a "rigid collection" so the office shafted him.... But in fairness, he got it out and no smashed up truck or cars so that's not a fail in my books!! He still works here at Bratts and now drives a 105xf.
Licensing rules change. Back in 93 there was no multiple choice questions, they came in around 98. Then they introduced the hazard perception after that. Anyone that got a car licence before 97 got a category C1 and are not required to take a 50 question case study and a demonstration test to get a DQC(cpc), they can just attend a 35 hour course. Only if you were in the army was you able to get a HGV at 18, now anyone at the age of 18 can, used to be 21. You must 1st pass cat B, get all you medical and provisional sorted out and then take cat C. Once you pass cat C you then get a provisional for C+E. Its been like that before 2006 but if remember correctly you had to wait 6 months before you could apply for C+E and now you can do it back to back. One old guy told me that you was able to go straight to an artic with no license what so ever, double LL provisional or something, dont know how true that is.
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To me he came across as a nice guy , so credit to him. 👍🇬🇧🍺
I feel sorry for the bloke. Its gotta be shit with people filming you...mocking you.
Unfortunately this is a culture in Britain to mock anyone who is just trying hard to do his jib. I'm a bus driver and can tell you many of my colleagues left the job coz some idiot, low life passenger sit there and all the time speak behind the drivers' back! Pathetic
@@danielosdinia4258 People after their teenage years who take the bus either are fine with it and don't need a car, are alcoholics or are unproductive members of society who take in social benefits and could not fathom having to do a test to see if you're a danger to other drivers and their young kids, don't be so hard on yourself
Well done for keeping his temper listening to all the idiots giving him advice, when they probably couldn't drive a screw in. Excellent driving mate in such a tight area.
Don’t blame the tools when you ain’t got the smarts
There are truck drivers and drivers of trucks you do not kmow the difference with a standard like that.
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They were not 49 years, says so.
Never will fully understand people who film situations and post the footage and spin it so negatively, it says so much about the individual filming way much more than the situation they are filming. Such a sad, simple, narrow minded individual with a blinkered outlook, zero empathy or understanding, a bit of excitement in their empty void of a life they struggle through. I may even wonder if the person who uploaded this who hides behind the name of remas851 is trying to feel better about their own life inadequacies! A strong confident human helps and encourages others meanwhile an inferior human lacking confidence tries to deflect and distract from themselves so desperately and sadly so obviously.
I worked for this company and this was one of the oldest and most shittiest trucks they had. He’s done a great job with the tools given, I’d tell you that
I thought he did very well considering 👌
What truck today is not oldest and most shittiest from them..
Why does he bounce and jerk it around so much.
Yes blame the tools just another retard who thinks he is bigger than what he is and makes it hard for himself truth is he is another mongole
Will agree truck play a role
I remember my first day out on Class1 in 1979. blind side reverse up a narrow alley to a building site on a roundabout in Hartley Wintney. You go from pulling an empty tandem axle trailer on Friday when I passed my test to a triaxle flatbed loaded with 25 tonnes of plasterboard on Monday morning. Nothing prepares you for that first day out. Fair play to the driver here, he got the truck out safely with no damage to anything, and did it while being filmed and having several "experts" all shouting out "instructions".
👏Well said
Whether in USA or UK, if incoming or outgoing loads were thought about when building factory, give the damn trucks the room they need. It just blows my mind how factories negate what is needed to receive or ship their product. If you can not make the room, make a distribution warehouse where room CAN be found. Move with straight trucks to warehouse and ship from there and vice/versa.
The UK, just like many other countries in Europe tend to not have the abundance of space like the US tends to have. Our trucks also tend to have countersteering axles on trailers to help with our narrower roads. I take it the situation was pretty normal at first, but there then was an addon to a building or a new company being built and this was ignored.
The same is true for many loading docks in Amsterdam for instance, they were designed years a go for small trucks but not for the giants we now-a-days have.
Can imagine the suits designing the layout of the goods in/out dept. . . . Yeah how about a nice tree here and a really awkward curb there for no other reason but aesthetics.
The first part of that manoeuvre is called reversing on your blind side, when you look in your left mirror all you can see is the side of your trailer nothing else, the guy done fine this wasn’t a fail, in fact he done the right thing got out his cab and eyed up the situation himself and took his time
My dad always told me if your not sure get out and look as many times as needed , you'll be a twat if you hit something for not getting out and looking and the potential investigation from your manager if there's damage.
@Lancashirelad It looks like that lorry needed a shit ton of revving to get anywhere tbh. It didn't appear to want to do anything at low rpm
@Lancashirelad Slow and easy is fine in most circumstances. But seeing how much gas it needed for the clutch to bite without stalling, that thing is clearly overloaded.
@@TheFree33333 It seems also that the content of the trailer was heavily unbalanced. It constantly wanted to tumble to the right side. At first I thought it was due to the pavement being sloped towards the grass area. But even at the end when the truck is perfectly level and in line you can see the trailer top still pushing to the right.
@@RayOLightIt might be due to leaky air brakes. Have to keep the revs up to keep them supplied.
I take my hat off to this man. I couldn't do that. Hard work trucking. I admire anyone that has a go at anything regardless. 👍
I used to be an artic driver. Ill health made me give it up. Your comment Jim999 is very welcome and very humble. Well done, I really respect you for that.
@Marc Caldwell good for you, that blue Peter badge is on its way to you
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Seriously which part was the fail?? Id love to see some of these internet super truckers try it!!
Yeah, everyones an expert!
They have probably done it on some game somewhere and they think it's easy. Don't think they realise real obstacles cause real problems and real damage.
@@davdmansell3130 In internet yes.
Maybe we should get these internet experts to reduce the HGV driver shortfall, they all seem so perfect, oh i forgot taking only one test to drive makes them experts to hgv drivers 3 or four driving tests of course. hahahaha, he did a really good job considering he was driving a MAN which has a really crap gearbox for this kind of driving its ok in germany on the autobahn but bloody useless in this situation where you need feather touch control and a gearbox that thinks you fancy full throttle no, oh sorry, what you want to go ? full throttle? no oh sorry, its a crap gearbox and the loss of air, oh my god why is it only MAN drain air so easily?, I think MAN are the crapest trucks on the road.
The guy filming is the fail
As an old hand told me once:
'before you say anything..I've done more miles in REVERSE than you've ever done forward young un..'
What thay use to say was I have skidded more miles in reverse..
No way is that a fail, I thought he done well considering the lack of room in front, Well played sir👍
I'm doing this in one hand,what a pussy
He's just Green that's all, I'm glad nobody filmed me on my first day!
Very true
You are trained to pass a test, you learn when you get in a truck and drive alone that’s when the real training start and you are alone.
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Me too trying to blindside off a busy high road with a twenty foot single axle trailer. Took me forever probably the most pressure I've ever been under.
It took me nearly 2 months to probably reverse into a bay haha
fail? where's the fail? he got out of a tight situation from what I can see, I mean they are professionals.
Agree,fail?my arse,UK to Eastern Europe,millions of kays.Top driver,yard too cramped🇳🇿😎🍻
Thank you I couldn't of said it better myself
I think he missed right way and has to turn around.
Are you serious people. He is absolute rubbish with no idea whatsoever.
The only reason he didn't hit anything was because he had someone there watching and yelling at him.
He no control over that single whatsoever.
What dickhead actually gave him a licence.
@@grantheath8547 you've no idea what you're talking about. I was in one of those older MAN automatics today. They're notoriously jerky. I doubt you'd have any better control over it
Not the tidiest of manoeuvres but hey, no-one dead, nothing damaged, so in all, a good day in the office !!
All's well that ends well
On year 43 love to see somebody starting out and still love the opportunity to help anyone if I can, I never forget even after so many years that I'm only as good as the next corner..
Top advice and attitude larry
No fail here! Love how people post and have no experience or glue about driving hgvs.. good job in a dog of a truck in my opinion
Video posted by another expert .ex is a has been ,spurt is a drip under pressure
No fail here at all; this particular unit on this industrial estate does not in any way shape or form cater to artic trucks with 45 foot trailers, not to mention people with no banksman training whatsoever just shouting "woah" every second. The word is "STOP!" The driver got on with it, took it in his stride, got the job done and managed to remain calm, professional and smile throughout.
The fact somebody took a video of this merely reflects the fact that a vehicle of this size rarely visits them to make deliveries, it's clearly a spectacle to them. Furthermore, if anybody else reckons they could do a better job, then go do it. I guarantee most of the people heckling in the comments at the driver would most probably have a panic attack in this situation.
Well said. I'm not an Hgv driver, but ive been watching a few vids and thought here 'why are they hollering crap' at the driver, nothing is clear and just sounds awful if you were sat in the seat. As you say, smiling driver, calm, the job was done.
Can't see no fail there,he's turning correctly with the room he has.im amazed his brain didn't go overboard with all confusion with audience around him
yeah having a noisy audience when we are new is not easy, you have to work really hard to ignore it
@@cerealpipe that true
Totally agree. 👍
I do this since 25 years and think he did right to get out and have a look at the blind side.
Could have been easier but who on earth is perfect?
Main thing is to have no damage, so that guy did his job as good as he can.
What stands out for me in this video is the lack of health and safety compliance from other yard workers.....especially the FLT driver.
If health and safety where there the truck would still be there and the driver would still be filling in paperwork 🙄
1:16 scared tf out of me, being safety conscious
Yer I see it and thought what’s he doing sneaking past dick Ed lol 😂
This is at worksop , there all fucking pillocks in that yard standing around when your driving in,god knows what they do/sell because most of the time there just standing outside smoking and being nosey with whats going off at other units
Honestly, I hear my driving instructor for the regular car already in my head: "Did someone get injured or even die? No? Did we or someone else suffer damages? No? Did we only had to wait 3-4 minutes longer than we normally would've had to? Yes? Then it's not a fail."
I'd say I call the guy in the blue shirt standing at a position where the driver can not see him much more of a problem given that should the driver backup fiercely he might not be out of the way quickly enough, along with it being a lot more comfortable for the driver to know everyone is out of the way.
bad design of the car park/yard.
if all HGVs need to go on th grass, then its not bad driving, its bad design
respect to these drivers that have done miles in reverse than most going forward in cars
@Marc Caldwell a bus it's like a rigid to reverse, easy, the artic it's a fucking nightmare until you get use to it
@Marc Caldwell If you can't reverse your vehicle imo you should not have a license to drive that vehicle. Whether that be a car, bus, truck. It is so important to know how to reverse yet so few people actually can even in a car
@Marc Caldwell the real lesson begins once you pass and start driving properly
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There’s always plenty of know all clever dickies around when you least need them. Driver keeps smiling though.
they were no help what so ever the arse holes
As long as you get in done without putting a scratch a unit or killing anyone who gives a fuck been driving for years every one makes mistakes still making them now any one who thinks different isn't a driver actually doing the job day to day FACT
Given the circumstances I'd like to see anyone do any better. That was tighter than the proverbial duck's backside. I think he did a bloody good job.
I don’t see a driver fail here ? He managed it well enough, nobody hurt no damage no problem.
Should have asked the numpty behind the camera to sort it, clearly he is an expert with a licence to drive the beast. 😂😂
Not a fail here at all because unless you've tried to turn a 44 tonner in a tight spot like this you have no idea how difficult it is. There is no rear window in the unit which makes visibility very poor, also he's got an MAN fitted with a ZF automatic which is an absolutely horrendous truck to drive. Clutch on these is like an on off switch. If he had a Volvo FM it would be a lot easier.
The guy on the fork lift must be some kind of idiot.
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I was livid when they took my 13 speed away and gave me one of these automatic MANs, thankfully automatics are better these days but I'd still rather have the manual.
Every HGV driver has been in this place at some point. I got my first Class 1 job this August and the amount of times I've looked like this while reversing, having other drivers come out to guide me in, trying not to oversteer, unnecessarily blindside reversing because it looks like the only way? It happens and the only way to get better at it is to keep doing it. You learn every time you do it, or so I've been told. I say fair play to this guy. In a MAN as well, which are known for shitty gearboxes too? I'd be bollocking myself in his shoes.
What's a gearbox to do with the steering wheel herd that one before all the top drivers have left and now we have this
@@brendo3314 it means the truck will stutter while reversing which just adds to the difficulty
Good job I'm not his boss I would have him on a pallet truck
The one filming probably would fail at parking a fiat 500
To be fair to the driver, the clutch and gearboxes in that generation of MAN were a bag of shit
Weren't they just?
Was going to say the same worse fking thing ever take ur clutch away bag of shit they were /foot on or off no control going on a bay till u hit it and rock the loading Dock
Bloody awful things.
different times and equipment, that MAN Wasn't to bad (oh yeah,.. it F£"$% stalls,... as you can tell it got the job done). so disagree on that one bud. You are more likely to be a Scania driver by the sounds of things
Reversing an MAN is bad enough at the best of times so think the guy done pretty well in the circumstances 👏
Seeing some of the places trucks like this have to go, I think he did good, I don't get how shopping centers etc can get away with providing such tight and dangerous bays for truck drivers, they have some skill especially in Europe UK and Ireland.
Most shopping centers don't need a full truck of goods. The normal process is to have a dispatch hub. Huge trucks handle transfers between hubs. And smaller trucks do the local delivery tour.
When a train full of tourists arrives in town you don't send the entire train on a tour to every single hotel. You receive it in the station and taxis and buses handle the local dispatch. That's the same principle. If the huge truck doesn't fit here, that's because he was never supposed to get here.
Favourite sayings of warehouse staff and customers. . . . ." The last bloke got it in easy " . . . . . . " your gonna be here a long time drive ". . . . . . . " we're just going for dinner " . . . . . . " what time do you call this ". . . After 34 years I've packed it in and got a life.
Guy did a good job, no fail here.
Actually he was an experienced driver, people on the ground no nothing about how HGVs can get stuck, he got it out eventually without any damage to the tractor, the trailer was ripped but that is down to the operator who gave him a defective kit.
I’m having a flashback moment. If you haven’t had one of these moments then you ain’t a proper trucker. Had my first one in Tesco at Fenny Lock. Massive yard and I just could not get on the bay. A Stobart driver stopped me and helped me out; he was laughing but he was also a legend.
Bold Robert we've all been there remember following a diversion sign that had been moved by vandals one night, ended up on a housing estate with a full size double deck trailer. Nightmare. Called the highways agency the following morning to complain and apparently I wasn't the only driver that ended up there that night.
He 100 percent was given the absolute classic "we have trucks in ere all time mate eeeee" .
my late dad was a long distance lorry driver for 25 and made maneouvers like this look effortless but that came with years of experience
A real tricky one here. The joys of blind spots. But at least he got out of the problem and recovered well. 👍
That dreadful automatic transmission was the only fail here, more jerky than a new driver trying to use an Eaton Fuller for the first time.
100% on the nose, most auto boxes are horrendous, not enough gas and it won't move, but a bit too much and it takes off,
@@johnmcmanus129 Some of the new ones are ok also Scania do offer an automatic with a clutch pedal that's something I would love to have a go with.
@@armchairgeneralissimo drove a 2012 P400 tractor with A/T for a while a few years back that had clutch, great for slow maneuvering, especially in any yard with an incline, in my current job I was put into a 15 daf xf auto while my 06 xf manual was being serviced, they take a ridiculous amount of time for the clutch to bite, again no fun on a steep hill 😂
Heart goes out to you.
Had That experience before.
Non Wagon drivers giving instructions, and you get ratty.
If you're up for helping the driver.., watch the trailer from behind. Believe it, or not, We DO know how to Drive, YOU'RE not giving clear guidance.
I have the highest admiration for truck drivers in this country
As an ex shunter if the unit was a Volvo it would have been an easier reverse the man is not an ideal vehicle to manoeuvre in tight spaces
I did this job for 10 years and there is always a cocky i know best idiot who thinks they can do better running around the lorry.........oops sorry they probably could.
Rusty Bullethole I call them spectator 'experts' you can hear them yelling driving lessons and instructions. Their side kicks also happen to be very critical amongst the You tube panel of 'experts'.
lysander true hgv driving is hard Im not slanging no one off you expect better from a pro also as an flt driver that counter balance is a dick
jimmy g A complete balls up,Driver of that artic completely put that wagon in the wrong place to start with.
jimmy g For definite Jimmy g :)
Ben curry can you drive an artic? and how the hell do you know he put it in the wrong place when you cant even see him drive into the place
I'm new to truck driving and it is very difficult getting out of places like this especially in an artic no one really teaches you this either your reverse manoeuvre on test is like nothing compared to the real world every day is a learning experience but I love it
I am not a truckie, I drive pcv's. With an artic, once that cab is turned, mirrors are almost useless, so in a tight spot like that, everyone around can see a hell of a lot more than the poor sod in the cab. I take my hat off to all truck drivers.
Thank you, Stephen. I've driven buses and artics. You should, as a bus driver, take a bow for the sterling work you do.
No fail there, he got the job done with no injuries or damage.
If that was a manual then terrible clutch control, including the stall and if its the auto box, then why oh why when manoeuvring in tight spaces like that did he just not use The 'RM' and 'FM' (reverse and forward manoeuvre) selections, this would have been so much smoother and none of that jerking. But to be fair to that driver, he kept his humour about the cameraman and youtube, did not get angry like some do and completed the task at hand, good on him 👌🏻
It was obviously a semi auto. Give me a manual box any day, I've actually given up driving them and changed my career, just no fun in it anymore.
Yes, I agree no fail I can find here. It is so tiny in many places in England and this MAN with this large cabine shakes a lot. Well done to the driver!!!
The description needs changing. "Excellent lorry driving skills in clapped out unit"
Well done driver
It's not really a fail, he got it done. I'd be nervous having people watch me do it.
No fail ...good job ,amount of times I arrived at a delivery/ collection site’s and you get that world famous sentence “ we’ve had bigger trucks than you get in here “ ....dog of a truck to reverse in MAN , worse thing they did was make trucks automatic 👍
And the pressure from transport managers that have never even been near a wagon
When I passed my test, I came back to the depot from testing station and was asked to move some trailers around and put on dock. Twenty-one shunts later it was on but not straight.
I truly was a crap lorry driver.
How I passed was a miracle.
Only on the road for a year and gave up.
Best all round really. Probably saved many lives.😊
MAN trucks have a automatic gearbox but they do have a crawler gear, can be used for hooking up to and unhooking from trailer and slow speed maneuvers, as for turning around, I would have simply reversed back the way I'd gone in:)
where was the fail ?
Rear steer trailers are a godsend for narrow and difficult to reverse places. Would take one every time if I was allowed!
Reminds me of the type of gig that makes me glad I don't drive wagons any more.
The number of times I got sent in an artic to places where an artic should go... and then you get people hooting at you or complaining that you are there, as if you took the thing there just for a laugh rather than having actually been told by your boss to take a truck there. Yeah, mate, I'd really rather be sat on a beach than blocking your road with my wagon honest but if I want to pay the mortgage, I have to.
I am in awe of the driver in this video, I would have been raging and I think the bloke in the forklift beeping would have sent me over the edge, I think perhaps I don't have quite the right temperament for driving wagons! 😄
That crappy auto gearbox doesn't help..........
yeah they are a pain in the arse . MAN's do have a maneuvering setting on the gearbox though which makes it much less "on or off" , he said have used it. Or left foot braking helps
camelsac thats not automatic because he stalled it once and the automatic gearbox does not allow that much rev
***** Can still stall an auto - I've done it! Lol! And that gearbox is similar to the ones fitted to the older Ivecos - and they buck just as much - worst truck I ever had was a Stralis!
The auto box in MANs that age are hopeless for trying to manoeuvre slowly. Seen a few bumps in the yard.
johnnyhun1 That gen MANs gearboxes are useless for manoeuvring
Automatic gear box, who ever thought these would be a good idea on trucks is a complete twat! I refuse to drive them outright, they can make even the best driver look like shit.
Fail? This is a day to day situation. I can tell hahaha. Greetings from a truck driver from Spain.
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It beats me how places that need to be accessed by an HGV manage to get planning approval without sufficient turning space for an HGV… this is a planning fail, not a driving fail!
PS, having a camera pointed at you whilst you’re in a tricky spot is an unnecessary distraction, but he did well to keep his mind on the job in hand, and he got out with no harm done.
Or maybe the place was never supposed to receive HGVs, and didn't even have a need for that because their reserve can only hold the content of a small local delivery lorry. But the truck company managers decided they could cut on trucker salaries and buildings costs by having the HGV driver do all the local delivery tour by himself instead of delivering all the goods to a dispatch center with smaller lorries for the final delivery.
@@christianbarnay2499 correct. In the UK class 1s get sent into allsorts of shite places not designed for them.
If you look at the back wheels they were locked on, Guess it probably only loss air but it made the turn 100x harder to do, mecanical fail I think not driver
I am a part time HGV driver, not very experienced at all. He did brilliantly. If i had done what he had, i would have been chuffed to bits. Well done.
Love all these heroes criticising and taking the piss...... Car drivers I bet... and we all know how good they are at driving their little match boxes
I would just like to say well done 👍. To the people shouting how to do it, feel free to have ago.
These auto boxes are shit for reversing.
This guy did not fail. He got in and out and hit nothing. If you have never got yourself into a sticky situation like this then YOU DO NOT DRIVE A LORRY.
He did fine, I wouldn’t want to try it, respect to all these lorry drivers.
He done it ok.where is this fail???
I ask again WHERE IS IT???
Obviously who published this video has some problems in his life. He just want to think that he is better than other people. People like that are happy when others have some difficulties in doing something. The only "fail" here is the owner of this Channel!!
The only fail in these situations is when folks don't help the driver out
Two fails there. First, not parking up and walking into that area to see if there's room to turn around before driving in. Second, not reversing in.
Its Ok taking the Mickey out of the driver but none of them could do it, That's why they're working in a warehouse
Stupid places like that I always reverse in then you know you can get out .or walk in and check it out first looks like a rookie mistake to me I know cos I've made them myself 😀
Where the fail was? Who uploaded this video, does know how "easy" to drive an artic?
Nice trucks man one of my fave
That's what lorry drivers face everyday with no proper industrial estates and lots of cars parked everywhere...this is the spirit...Close your eyes and fingers crossed...
No fail there just a scrap man diesel automatic he done well
The only fail here is that he failed to spot that he had nothing to deliver as some thief had cut a hole in his curtain and took the stock while he was parked in a layby overnight!
No fail there, nicely done. No damage, no drama.
Definitely not a fail. Fella done really well to get out of that 👌
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Blind side reverses are the baine for a lot of people, I try to avoid them if I can
If this is a fail, than my first few months are utter fails.
Remember when I started driving, I couldn't even make a day without a small scratch or something, then I tried to make a week, than a month, now I hardly do any damage
at all because I was hard on myself for the misstakes, and did everything I could not to do it again, and now I get calls all the time and if I see a new driver struggling, I rush to help in witch ever way I can, knowing that I was in his spot a few years ago, I would never take my camera out to show others to feel "good about myself?"
And when 10 people are shouting at me with 10 different commands or tell me how to drive, I get out my the truck and tell them to drive it, if I have 1 guy helping me out that's perfect, I would rather take it safe and slow than to rush, because that's when misstakes happen.
when you are a lorry driver ,,, the only problem you have is a space, it is constantly the main worries , but with time you start to see space which absolute absent for the ordinary mind
Typical MAN lorry, all or nothing. Can't move them things slowly
You can mate if you put it in crawler
And we ALL have days when we can't even tie our own shoelaces.
Only fail there is his truck!! MAN crap gearbox horrible to drive.
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Everyone telling the truck driver how to drive a truck is priceless,
Thought he done well 👍
Not really helped by the Auto Gear box,
Where was the fail? All I see is a good maneuver
i love the arm wavers and pointers who dont even drive hgv's lol zero use
Yard design fail. The driver was spot on