Understanding Toji Fushiguro - The Monkey Who Killed a God (Jujutsu Kaisen)

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  • @SagesRain
    @SagesRain  11 місяців тому +776

    What do you think about Toji?
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    • @SpammytheHedgehog
      @SpammytheHedgehog 11 місяців тому +8

      Toji from Evangelion? 😂😂

    • @matthiasmelaku7118
      @matthiasmelaku7118 11 місяців тому +9

      Beautiful video as always mate

    • @iiauaii
      @iiauaii 11 місяців тому +21

      my goat

    • @blackskullknight9062
      @blackskullknight9062 11 місяців тому +33

      Toji involvement in no understatement an important moment in the story.
      Without him:
      The Star plasma vessel would merge with tengan
      Geto wouldn't spiral to what he became in JJK 0 and Kenjaku controlling his body
      Gojo wouldn't have become as strong as he is without his involvement.
      And a Succession crisis that leads to a clan being destroyed.

    • @alovesupreme76
      @alovesupreme76 11 місяців тому +32

      toji is one of the most fascinating characters in the whole story. Because of how important to the story he is, how impactful to the current timeline he is, his ties to various characters we know, and just how little we actually know of him. We only see him in the last hours of his life. The similarities he has to many of our main cast (gojo, maki, megumi). Just how little we know of the sweet loving family man he was, contrasted with the cunning, ruthless, cutthroat man weighed down by his traumas that we see him to be. The fact that even in his last moment with his son, he doesn't even tell him who he is, despite how much he obviously cares for him. I don't see tojo willingly stopping his rampage for anyone else except megumi. After fighting him im sure he was genuinely proud of his son, and truly happy that he's doing okay in life, *without* the zenin clan. I think toji truly thought megumi was just better off without his father in his life, and figured it's better to remain an anonymous relic of megumi's past rather than reveal himself and add baggage to megumi's life.

  • @pippiman
    @pippiman 8 місяців тому +2554

    Toji being addicted to gambling makes so much sense for his character. as someone whose core belief is that if you're born as a monkey you'll die as a monkey and no amount of hard work can change that, gambling as his vice is symbolic of that constant internal struggle. he is seen specifically at betting spots like horse or boat races, instead of the casino, and in bets it's significantly easier to fix the outcome. the winner is chosen at the beginning, they are born a winner and the others are born losers. Toji never wins, but he always comes back and he always stays until the very end, even when it becomes obvious who will win. because in betting races, there will occasionally be a dark horse, an underdog that no one expects to win who will come out on top at the last second, against all odds. that's what toji is betting on, he's betting on himself

    • @theorigionaldrew
      @theorigionaldrew 6 місяців тому +137

      Amazing observation. I've been trying to piece together the gambling symbolism for a while now.

    • @patrickjames7907
      @patrickjames7907 5 місяців тому +34

      This should be pinned comment.

    • @Kuleria
      @Kuleria 5 місяців тому +13

      Ohmygod this is genius

    • @michaelt3614
      @michaelt3614 5 місяців тому +6

      Brilliant

    • @pr0ductv1ty100
      @pr0ductv1ty100 4 місяці тому +5

      Woah

  • @thecod2345
    @thecod2345 11 місяців тому +4315

    What honestly sticks with me about Toji, despite his give no fuck attitude, despite having power and skills that make him more than a competitive match for any special grade short of adult Gojo and Sukuna, he’s clearly horribly depressed.
    I’m not going to argue he’s a good father, but it’s clear that Megumi and his mother gave him a security and comfort in himself and a purpose greater than self affirmation that kept him centered. Once she disappears and he no longer feels like he’s enough, he regresses into old habits and sells his son away because how could he ever be enough. It’s clear that Toji is at his best as a person when he’s looking out for the best interest of others, which makes his second death so tragic because the moment he saw he had been so close to killing his son, once he confirmed the identity, without hesitation he kills himself before he can regress back to his instincts. He may not be a good dad, but he had the makings of one and the tragedy is he could never see it in himself and try to keep himself centered.

    • @cw.k1532
      @cw.k1532 11 місяців тому +470

      In a way, you can see a ton of Megumi in Toji and vice-versa. Megumi gives up alot for others when he would fit the troupe of an extremely selfish character and Toji can be viewed as a Megumi who is increadibly greedy and selfish of his own desires without caring for others truly.

    • @alovesupreme76
      @alovesupreme76 11 місяців тому +254

      ​@@cw.k1532 man, Sage's Rain videos really bring out the best anime/manga fans fr, i love the conversations happening. Y'all just said some real shit about toji and megumi

    • @SagesRain
      @SagesRain  11 місяців тому +186

      !!

    • @exalted_space9224
      @exalted_space9224 11 місяців тому +71

      *Bro Cooked*

    • @gbogbominin
      @gbogbominin 11 місяців тому +52

      ​@@alovesupreme76That's the beauty of it. It is not just some "drawings". From Naruto to Shingeki no Kyojin , Full Metal Alchemist even Monster, just to quote these few, animes/mangas have always dealt with extremely, yet very relatable topics.They make you think and most of the time pause and challenge your own perspective and make you put yourself in question.

  • @Alwayz114
    @Alwayz114 11 місяців тому +3226

    Toji is the personification of one of the most interesting and simple parts of Jujutsu's world building, imo: The majority of a Sorcerer's potential is simply innate talent. Other shounen often talk up Hard Work and Go Get'em Attitude, but nevertheless give the protagonists some amazing bloodline ability or innate power-up that separates them from the rest. Jujutsu just straight up says, if you're born useless, you can only hope to reach mediocre
    Toji is born incredible, but within the eyes of his clan is subhuman. So even when your talents are inborn, they STILL may not be recognized and appreciated by those around you

    • @hish33p32
      @hish33p32 11 місяців тому +37

      Same goes for sports animanga

    • @talha7032
      @talha7032 11 місяців тому +73

      ⁠@@hish33p32I didn’t know hinata had a bloodline ability. Is that why he’s 5’4

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 11 місяців тому +41

      Bro Heavily Restriction is an innated condition... Toji just happened to maximize on it same as Maki. She capitalize on that as well. They arent normal human beings like the monkeys. If anyone is usless and has no strong blood ties is Miwa😂 shes not even part of the big 3 clans, normal as they come and no can no longer wield a sword.

    • @Alwayz114
      @Alwayz114 11 місяців тому +99

      @@SemekiIzuio Yes? I said that Toji is the personification of the idealization of innate abilities. Yet I find it interesting he is neglected by his family regardless. I don't see what you think you're counter arguing?

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 11 місяців тому +2

      you are saying HR isnt an inborn talent which it is regardless of how Zenin saw it. Its runs in the Zen in bloodlines. On top of that they werent usless in the JJK world only _again_ the Zenin saw it that way, Gege made sure of that by making Maki one of the top 3 hitters
      And as I put an example, Miwa is not part of the big 3, has no bloodline with strong abilities or powers. Shes the most normal as they go, she now cant use her sword anymore rendering her completely usless.

  • @maestro3944
    @maestro3944 11 місяців тому +1809

    Ironic how the "monkey" that was excluded and ridiculed from the Jujutsu World brought upon the event that changed everything in the world. Had it not been for Gojo awakening against Toji, who would've known where the story went. Toji was the event that occurred that brought down a cascading sequence of events that we know the Jujutsu World as today.

    • @SagesRain
      @SagesRain  11 місяців тому +160

      🎯

    • @harmo2502
      @harmo2502 11 місяців тому +116

      For real. He’s set sooo many things in motion/made things possible with saving megumi n them from Dagon, to letting megumi live

    • @prabhuishwar8799
      @prabhuishwar8799 11 місяців тому +82

      Yeah man. If not for Toji, Gojo wouldn't have been able to use RCT and use the hollow purple for the first time. He would not be the honoured one as he was.

    • @Jolynesimpnumber4
      @Jolynesimpnumber4 11 місяців тому +24

      If Toji didn’t succeed Sukuna would have never have Kenjaku’s plan would’ve been destined to fail and Itadori’s plan execution would’ve happened way more quickly and easily.

    • @lando8849
      @lando8849 11 місяців тому +5

      But looking at where we are in the Manga and Anime maybe Tengan should have merged with the vessel

  • @overherechillen3089
    @overherechillen3089 11 місяців тому +1765

    A child that not accepted by the village, will burn it to the ground just to feels its warmth.

    • @kallum39
      @kallum39 9 місяців тому +96

      Maki and Mai will learn well from their predecesor next season

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je 8 місяців тому +20

      ​@@kallum39 I can't wait to see the Culling Games in the upcoming season 3!

    • @traystay6937
      @traystay6937 7 місяців тому +10

      Killmonger is a good example.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je 7 місяців тому +8

      @@traystay6937 Same goes for Tai Lung and Anakin!

    • @MerlinHashi
      @MerlinHashi 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@PedroLucas-mg5je naruto never did

  • @coulsonintahiti
    @coulsonintahiti 11 місяців тому +1133

    Toji broke the JJK universe. He led Gojo and Geto to discover their respective paths, eliminated one of the four Unregistered Special Grades, weakened Megumi to the point he had to release (too long a name) to fight handsword guy, and traumatized his son one last time.
    Not bad for a monkey :)

    • @origin7430
      @origin7430 5 місяців тому +11

      frieza would be proud.

    • @eastbow6053
      @eastbow6053 2 місяці тому +8

      Divine General Mahoraga

    • @GodofDestructionPyro
      @GodofDestructionPyro 12 днів тому

      He's brought up multiple times in the manga and honestly the main reason every season happened how it did.

    • @xXPurpleLoliTranceXx
      @xXPurpleLoliTranceXx 9 днів тому

      You can’t type “Mahoraga?” lol 😂

  • @reigningrio4416
    @reigningrio4416 11 місяців тому +738

    It’s crazy to think that this guy with no cursed energy changed the entire trajectory of the story😭

    • @deylack
      @deylack 9 місяців тому +27

      yea lol if he didn't kill that girl so much things would be different

    • @xxmeme5terxx706
      @xxmeme5terxx706 5 місяців тому +1

      @@deylackwhy did he need to the kill the girl again

    • @funnycreak
      @funnycreak 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@xxmeme5terxx706 if he hadnt had killed riko, she wouldve merged with tengen and renew tengen's body (smth like that i dont remember) but since he did ended up killing her, it set a ripple in the jujutsu world

    • @NerdGohan
      @NerdGohan 4 місяці тому +12

      @@funnycreak I still feel bad for her. She was an extremely wholesome character and all she wanted was to live a nice happy life. and she was a child too :/

  • @log5531
    @log5531 11 місяців тому +249

    Love how toji being free of cursed energy(the literal "curse" on humanity and also the thing that alienated toji) ironically is what allowed him to affect the story so heavily. Someone unbound by fate and the conventions placed on everyone else by the narrative because of his "imperfection" was the only person able to change fate. He was the most free person in jjk, but he was still bound by trauma. Just a fundamentally human character which makes his parallels with gojo(a lonely god) so good.

  • @alystairmabloch401
    @alystairmabloch401 11 місяців тому +396

    I love how the design of Toji's clothes is reversed after he's resurrected. From tight and black for the upper body and oversized greyish for the lower body before his death to the exact opposite after... I had never noticed that! It's interesting. I don't think it's a coincidence.

    • @RosyBlannx
      @RosyBlannx 8 місяців тому +19

      In what way do you assume its used? Im genuinely curious, do you think Gege uses this to show Toji as changed? But i dont think he changed, I think that it could be used for his change of heart maybe? When he died in tight black, he used his final moments to show hes not the invisible man, hes not only the invisible killer but also a father. Then, he returns with the oversized white shows the change he may have felt, maybe the space shows that hes himself. He finally acknowledged he is Toji Fushiguro, not Toji Zenin with both heart and soul.

    • @ereh11
      @ereh11 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RosyBlannxno it ain't that deep. The clothes were simply the normal clothes of Ogami's grandson 🤣

    • @RandomPerson-ui3xv
      @RandomPerson-ui3xv Місяць тому

      it's not that deep lil bro. The manga is in black and white so mappa was the one who gave the color of his clothes

    • @ingridklh
      @ingridklh 25 днів тому

      @@RandomPerson-ui3xvyou know if it’s black and white you can see the shirt in darker than the pants 😭 like yes the anime gives it more tone and depth but you can tell which parts are dark and coloured in

  • @adrienrodriguez2817
    @adrienrodriguez2817 11 місяців тому +2457

    It is a shame you don’t have a bigger following. The fact that you can make any anime character seem truly human is a true talent. I hope you get bigger as a content creator. You truly deserve it keep it up Sagerain❤️‼️

    • @mitcheltillman2461
      @mitcheltillman2461 11 місяців тому +28

      You saying this made me realize I wasn’t following for the whole time 😂

    • @blackaspect4947
      @blackaspect4947 11 місяців тому +28

      I have followed this man for years and he’s grown so much but his efforts and quality deserve more attention 🫡

    • @verticalstance
      @verticalstance 11 місяців тому

      dick rida lmao

    • @ChillChii
      @ChillChii 11 місяців тому

      @@mitcheltillman2461literally i thought i was subbed for the longest time i literally follow him on insta

    • @orchid4109
      @orchid4109 11 місяців тому +35

      Genuine question for you, isn't four hundred thousand subscribers and an average of one hundred thousand views per video a big following to you? I find it odd that you would say that to someone with almost half a million subscribers. I've felt like in the past year Sage has cemented himself as a cohesive and calm voice in the anime community. Don't mean to sound mean at all, I'm bad at phrasing my sentences. I just find it curious that this is the popular sentiment here on the channel. Is he really considered a small content creator in regard to his fanbase?

  • @spoon2537
    @spoon2537 11 місяців тому +215

    I like to also think of Toji as a changer of fate itself. He’s unbound from the jujusu world entirely from no cursed energy. Cursed energy itself seems to have fate woven in it to some extent.. the fact there has never really been a 6 eyes sorcerer stronger than gojo isn’t really a coincidence. Gojo was never meant to be that strong, nor was Riko ever suppose to die. Almost everything happening in the story is the direct result of Tojis actions (birth of Megumi) (Elevation of Gojo to become the strongest).
    Toji has changed fate itself because he is unbound from Jujutsu world from no cursed energy.. the domino effects are unreal from him and have completely changed the world and set it on a new path. He is unshackled, the bare flesh of the one who is free.

    • @spoon2537
      @spoon2537 11 місяців тому +13

      Again I think he’s a changer of fate due to the fact he has no cursed energy and thus isn’t accounted for in this “fate” that I described.

    • @reddulinko
      @reddulinko 11 місяців тому

      Tbh I doubt that his lack of curse energy is connected with fate, specially because I don't recall no one ever speaking about fate throughout the manga or it being a theme at any point, so I doubt that it is related since the author doesn't want the manga to be about that or to be one of its themes.
      But still I like your theory and actually make sense when you think about it. Is also pretty funny to think about the implications of people without curse energy being capable of changing fate since (SPOILERS from the manga) Maki has acquired the exact same heavenly restriction as Toji so now she is capable of changing the fate of the jujutsu world too

    • @drewreeves964
      @drewreeves964 10 місяців тому +19

      @@reddulinkoThe manga says the six eyes and the plasma star vessels and master tengen are bound by fate, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that fate is not an important theme in the story. In fact, I would go so far as to say that in the story there is a natural balance and cycle of things that seem to occur and recur due to fate or happenstance, whichever you choose to believe. I would say it’s fair to say that Toji was a disruptor of fate and these cycles which has now led to a domino effect of the world changing.

    • @dylanpyle6500
      @dylanpyle6500 5 місяців тому

      no people are made by their circumstances so he caused a change in his wake same as with enough mass it can pull other bodies to it

  • @Middanoob
    @Middanoob 11 місяців тому +841

    The fact that Toji theoretically was the strongest in the verse before honored Gojo. There was teen Yuki, but still like teen Gojo, she hadn't sharpened her powers. Toji could take her out if he got the same treatment as Gojo. He had all the affirmation he needed, his heart just begged for more.

    • @Seven_DB
      @Seven_DB 11 місяців тому +83

      Yuki was already a special grade who left the school by the time Geto meets her 1 year after Toji’s death and when she met a 8 year old Todo. I would imagine that she was already reaching her peak by that point

    • @Endisfree_
      @Endisfree_ 11 місяців тому +23

      Yuki is older than gojos team

    • @vic2982.
      @vic2982. 11 місяців тому +40

      you gotta realise that toji at his weakest killed teen gojo too

    • @toki8093
      @toki8093 11 місяців тому +15

      @@vic2982. Yea but ain't no way Yuki is getting killed by Prime Toji she has good durability and can easily speed blitz him + her one punch would send Toji to heaven.

    • @moetezouelhazi5699
      @moetezouelhazi5699 11 місяців тому

      toji has the best physical stats databook wise in the verse. He's more likely to "easily speed blitz" her than the other way around. And she really doesn't have anything on him. If it's an assassination she's fucked, if it's a 1v1 she's also probably fucked since she doesn't have reverse cursed technique and he's way more durable. Only chance she has of taking him out is by a suicide black hole.@@toki8093

  • @Itachi45481
    @Itachi45481 11 місяців тому +261

    it fascinates me in the world the zenin clan has 2 cases within a generation or so and not realize how useful it is they technically have 2 inborn techniques that you could be born with 10 shadows or heavenly restriction

    • @Teddy3230-u4d
      @Teddy3230-u4d 2 місяці тому +4

      So crazy how they didn’t realize what they had if they could have figured out how to purposefully induce that specific heavenly restriction they would take the top spot without question. Just Maki could take out the entire clan if her and Toji were at their peaks at the same time and the clan had one more like them….what would they other clans do? Hell that’s a jumping that might even make Gojo a little nervous

    • @crafterrium8724
      @crafterrium8724 2 місяці тому

      @@Teddy3230-u4d in the manga maki im pretty sure DID take out the clan by herself

    • @Teddy3230-u4d
      @Teddy3230-u4d 2 місяці тому

      @@crafterrium8724 I know I was saying because she could do that solo that having more like her would make the Zenin clan unstoppable

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 11 місяців тому +592

    I feel like he still cares for his kid but the moment he became the invisible man was the moment he became someone else no longer able to recognize his own child’s face.🐱

    • @michelepiocurci7924
      @michelepiocurci7924 11 місяців тому +40

      I'd wager the first thing he couldn't see was his own self and everything attached to it

    • @vincently4431
      @vincently4431 11 місяців тому +23

      He definitely does in his final moments he only thinks about his kid at first when Gojo killed him he was rejected the idea of caring for his kids trying his best to say that he didn’t care😢 But after he was reincarnated seeing Megumi he his own sorcerer made him realize everything he works for as an assassin didn’t matter he was a family man first

  • @MandatoryFruit
    @MandatoryFruit 11 місяців тому +368

    This is what I love about stories like JJK and Bleach. There is so much depth and nuance, but a lot of it doesn't even present itself on the surface. It's a lot of subtext that the writers want you to draw your own conclusions from. The stories are really as deep as you want them to be, and that's a level of skill with the pen that I can hardly comprehend. I truly wish I had even a fraction of the talent that so many mangaka have.

    • @ChillChii
      @ChillChii 11 місяців тому +17

      its actually so beautiful

    • @wumbojet
      @wumbojet 11 місяців тому +36

      That's why I find it so funny when people talk trash about bleach, it's so obvious they didn't get it at all

    • @jackmesrel4933
      @jackmesrel4933 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@wumbojet Yes, thematically Bleach is incredible and all the characters get their time in the spotlight and are pretty great, but it has a LOT of flaws as well. All the fights become just a back and forth of countering each others powers, the story is lacking in certain aspects and/or arcs (God the Fullbring arc was the worst), etc.

    • @edgardfegurson
      @edgardfegurson 3 місяці тому

      @@wumbojet *powerscalers

    • @jacinto1477
      @jacinto1477 3 місяці тому

      "God the fullbring was the worst". Literally the arc that characters ichigo the best​@@jackmesrel4933

  • @darnellmanoto4152
    @darnellmanoto4152 11 місяців тому +119

    I always thought that Toji was the most blessed im the Zen'in clan. We don't truly know what is the origins of Heavenly Restricted beings like him, Maki and even Mechamaru but they fit the perfect anecdote of people having nothing to lose, being able to give everything. Theyre not in two minds about the limits (physical and cursed technique wise). They can dedicate everything to just honing one thing in their lives.
    But because of the influences of their heritage, they believed that they had nothing. And thats what shackled them mentally.
    Toji was truly blessed, he just didnt see it. He was completely free from the chains of fate in the Jujutsu world and therefore, never had to suffer a sorcerers death. There truly was no one like him in the Jujutsu world. He couldve walked away, and forged his own destiny.
    Unlike Maki who sealed her fate in the Jujutsu world by murdering her entire clan (best believe that due to her actions, someone will hunt her someday to restore the clans honor), Toji had no ties whatsoever....if only he believed it.

    • @AgeOfDanarchy
      @AgeOfDanarchy 11 місяців тому +11

      If they come for revenge, they better be stronger than Maki

    • @kallum39
      @kallum39 9 місяців тому +11

      Dawg wtf was Maki supposed to do? They were out for blood just cause she wanted to get a couple weapons for the homies. Gotta respect the GRIND

    • @dylanpyle6500
      @dylanpyle6500 5 місяців тому

      no it did not shackle it caused pressure to rely more on themselves and allowed the potential to be brought out more toji fell completely with that women,he could have been more but partners always drag people down and change them

  • @VisheshBhaskar
    @VisheshBhaskar 11 місяців тому +40

    I would also like to propose that Toji Zenin is anologous to "The Monkey King", which is why he refers to himself as the monkey. The Monkey king also fights against the heavenly gods analogous with the Jujutsu Clans. Gojo Satoru vs Toji could also be seen as the fight between the monkey king and the Buddha, where the monkey king loses. Gojo being Buddha's analogue is an obvious from when he says "Throughout Heaven and Earth, I Alone Am The Honored One" which is what the Buddha is supposed to have said when he was born. Gojo also tries to reform society, similar to the Buddha. Welcoming any comments or additions!

  • @alystairmabloch401
    @alystairmabloch401 11 місяців тому +102

    I think maybe getting attached to Megumi would have reminded him of the loss of his mother so it was easier to run away from him and his pain.

    • @Tayanator
      @Tayanator 10 місяців тому +5

      I also think thats a good point

    • @thestruggler776
      @thestruggler776 9 місяців тому +6

      damn dude, youre probably right

    • @lightdarklightdarklightdark
      @lightdarklightdarklightdark 9 місяців тому +16

      i think he also didnt want to put megumi in any danger by showing him as one of his weaknesses

  • @prenimystic
    @prenimystic 11 місяців тому +233

    He was an abused boy who became a broken man and he just wanted to prove that he was more than the trash he was viewed as...
    I love him for so, so many reasons - and I'm so happy to see people dive into his character and appreciate him like I do
    (Man, I wanna cry..)

    • @dylanpyle6500
      @dylanpyle6500 5 місяців тому

      he was not trash but become truly trash once his mind was weakened by that women,if not he could been more,but people always need there chicken soup

    • @Joel45-cq4ik
      @Joel45-cq4ik 2 місяці тому

      🧢he's not as complex as you make him to be, people mainly stan him because he's hot just like 50% of jjk characters....... (even as a toji fan)

  • @thundershrike1448
    @thundershrike1448 11 місяців тому +157

    personally, i think his curbstomping of dagon was also reflection of his true self, as the heavenly restriction tends to work best when its user is completely disentangled from others' expectations (iykyk)

    • @toki8093
      @toki8093 11 місяців тому +4

      Maki's honest reaction to the Zenin clan:

  • @Kyrsta-q2t
    @Kyrsta-q2t 7 місяців тому +29

    bro just needed a hug

  • @Doktor_dooom
    @Doktor_dooom 11 місяців тому +78

    The fact that he only got a little scar when trown in a room full of cursed spirit its impressive on its own

  • @Realhuman111
    @Realhuman111 11 місяців тому +84

    Amazing as hell. My opinion on Toji is completely changed now. I thought he was just a murderer who cared about no one but himself. You used implications from the story and author’s statements to show a completely different side of him. It’s all an act to protect his own ego. He lost himself completely. Of course he went after an awakened Gojo, of course he called himself a “monkey” when he destroyed Geto. Much like the shinobi world, the jujutsu world has scarring effects that sorcerers don’t even realize…

  • @MrJerrytheSlime
    @MrJerrytheSlime 11 місяців тому +33

    I still find Hidden Inventory arc to be the best arc in the series. I just find that it’s way more fleshed out and impactful than any other arc. The other arcs after it feel depressing just to be depressing and they seem to not be as thought provoking. I’ve spent more time thinking about Geto’s, Gojo’s, and Toji’s perspectives than anything else in JJK all together. That’s just my opinion though

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 11 місяців тому +55

    At the bottom of it all, you’d probably find a man with a broken dream, and a broken heart.

    • @joebeast15
      @joebeast15 9 місяців тому +2

      You trying to quote Koenma in Yu Yu Hakusho?

  • @wumbojet
    @wumbojet 11 місяців тому +119

    The Zen'in clan is one of the most disgusting organizations/clans/families I've seen in manga, their abuses are so unbelievably awful that it seems they're trying to outdo themselves.

    • @gojihead3195
      @gojihead3195 9 місяців тому +3

      How much compared to Uchiha? I'm curious

    • @wumbojet
      @wumbojet 9 місяців тому

      @@gojihead3195 I never really cared much about them because of Naruto's weird deterministic setting, how evil can someone be if they are ordained by destiny and the blood of a moon goddess to be evil?
      Either way, I never saw them as really compelling, but, the uchihas are more warmongers and insane terrorists with no larger plan, the Zen'in are a respected and "well adjusted" group of conservative old guard sorcerers who maintain horrible traditions just to preserve the status quo of jujutsu society. They view weak sorcerers born from their line as scum and treat them like little more than slaves, their own flesh and blood. Women are little more than breeding facilitators and "educators" for the new generation. Toji was born without CE and he was relentlessly abused and made to kill cursed spirits since he was a child, the moment he started to do that with ease and finally fully manifested the true extent of his heavenly restriction the higher-ups of the clan feared for their lives, but killing Toni would be too much of a risk so they let him walk free of the clan. Maki suffered the same childhood as toji, except worse in other aspects because she's a woman until she ran away and let her twin sister take all of the abuse.
      The fact that you get an arc dedicated to the Zen'in protagonists mercilessly and brutality killing her whole family in cold blood and it's one of the few things you can say is objectively good for the world should tell you how horrible they are.

    • @Shoteaux2
      @Shoteaux2 7 місяців тому +3

      manga try not to make the worst households known to mankind challenge: impossible difficulty

    • @dylanpyle6500
      @dylanpyle6500 5 місяців тому

      i disagree it makes sense cursed energy is so versatile as long as you are not complete trash you can do wonders with it

  • @zae_llama9111
    @zae_llama9111 11 місяців тому +40

    After watching this I feel like megumi is the person toji wanted to be. Never noticed how sad he was and how much he just wanted validation.

  • @dragonking6396
    @dragonking6396 7 місяців тому +13

    Toji taught me that me that if you fighting the most powerful opponent you can defeat him and also he taught me that (nothing is
    impossible) that's why he is my fav character

  • @OsDijider66
    @OsDijider66 Місяць тому +2

    Amazing analysis :)

  • @jakebrill5990
    @jakebrill5990 11 місяців тому +12

    Toji is my favorite character so I’ve been loving all the great videos coming out with different peoples takes. Great job!

  • @felwinter7538
    @felwinter7538 11 місяців тому +48

    I like how there’s a bit of a dichotomy between Sage’s Rain video and Meti [not the bad guy] ‘s video. Two fundamentally different yet equally interesting interpretations of Toji as a character. In my opinion, Toji is probably somewhere in between of both, or more likely takes aspects from both sides of these interpretations.

    • @lordrj4203
      @lordrj4203 11 місяців тому +6

      Yeah both are good interpretations and makes a lot of sense

  • @nickeel8401
    @nickeel8401 11 місяців тому +89

    I think it's kinda nuts that Toji thinks people who specialize in CURSED energy are the blessed ones. Nothing good has ever happened because of it, and the self hatred instilled into him by the Zenins was so strong that he couldn't realize the heavens themselves protected him from all that. I think it's nuts that despite all the abuse and suffering, Toji never went to annihilate the clan. Finally I think it's nuts that he was soooo close to healing from it with his wife and Megumi, but sank back into "the life" cus of unfortunate circumstances (or maybe his wife's death was part of Kenjaku's plans)

    • @kallum39
      @kallum39 9 місяців тому +6

      The thing about Toji is that he is basically unmanipulatable because of his status and heavenly connection, which is why sadly his Wifes death is really just a bad hand dealt by fate.

  • @6ucket
    @6ucket 11 місяців тому +102

    "The monkey who killed a god" sounds like sun wukong lmao

  • @theinsanemaniacs1297
    @theinsanemaniacs1297 11 місяців тому +9

    Truly of all the jjk content I have watched your video has amazed me in a way unrivalled. (Fr it's so good dude good job)

  • @siddhantchauhan1975
    @siddhantchauhan1975 11 місяців тому +13

    This is a great video and it fully shows Toji, especially when there are so many jokes that he doesn’t want to play child support to megumi. Also people actually believe him lying about forgetting his son. He was just trying to distance himself. I get they are jokes and they are funny but they aren’t genuine to his character as he is man who internalised a lot of his trauma. But he had retired from his rage and was about to become a father, but due the loss of his wife he rebounded. Also due his self loathing and lack of approval he believed he was an unfit father and to give him a better life to the family he hated, but deeply loved megumi.

  • @Lyestan
    @Lyestan 2 місяці тому

    I love the way you talk so calmly. It's really peaceful and nice.

  • @AldrianCG
    @AldrianCG 11 місяців тому +38

    He is the one Nietzsche was talking about, the one fighting monsters but became one hispoorself. And, at that moment, i think calling himself “monkey” is more like spitting in their face.
    Loved the character in those episodes in the anime.

  • @Xaforn
    @Xaforn 11 місяців тому +10

    So very well done, I love the depth you can find in characters, they are truly what make the story. I very much like how Toji’s character was written to show the deep and dark side of the world that could be so much more beneficial and balanced than it is.
    If you haven’t already you should do some videos on Children of the Sea, and not just the film. The manga is sooooo much deeper, my personal favorite is Anglade but there is so many directions and various depths you can look into that world.

  • @eduardor-o4884
    @eduardor-o4884 11 місяців тому +30

    Can we get a video about Reiner from attack on titan? His character is so interesting like his problem with split personality disorder and his trouble with trying to tell from the soldier and the warrior and his struggles with insanity, depression and how he rose from the ashes.

    • @SagesRain
      @SagesRain  11 місяців тому +11

      yep, i’ll definitely touch on reiner in 2024

    • @eduardor-o4884
      @eduardor-o4884 11 місяців тому

      @@SagesRain Thank you!!!!

  • @yungmahon715
    @yungmahon715 10 місяців тому +3

    Love to see the continued success in your channel man. Been here almost the whole time and you've always been one of my favorites.
    Can't believe it's already been 6 years.

  • @klepto8941
    @klepto8941 11 місяців тому +11

    "The Monkey Who Killed a God"
    What a beautiful title for Toji Fushiguro.

  • @tavisjohnson4278
    @tavisjohnson4278 9 місяців тому +2

    That was such a well paced, entertaining and easy to digests breakdown I might’ve ever seen. Keep it going!

  • @lcbrisk1837
    @lcbrisk1837 11 місяців тому +2

    Sage I have been with you for years, your perspective is raw and alive. I would like to take this time to thank you for your insight of what these stories can teach us along the path.

  • @kenny995
    @kenny995 11 місяців тому +3

    This was a genuinely good video with really solid points and a more thoughtful look at Toji, great job man

  • @savvivixen8490
    @savvivixen8490 11 місяців тому +40

    I love the video title implying Toji's relationship with the Son Wukong legend!
    ...wait...
    Heavenly Restriction...
    Heaven's Equal...
    Does what he wants, whenever, however...
    Greedy, selfish, prideful...
    WAIT A MINUTE!

    • @SagesRain
      @SagesRain  11 місяців тому +15

      unfortunately i only made this connection while writing my next video :(

    • @n0hesitati0n15
      @n0hesitati0n15 11 місяців тому +15

      Gojo’s quote of “Under Heaven and Earth,, I alone am the Honoured One” is from the Buddha himself.
      Sun Wukong, the monkey king vs The Buddha.

    • @savvivixen8490
      @savvivixen8490 11 місяців тому +10

      @@n0hesitati0n15 Yeah! I thought I was trippin, but no! Gege REALLY snuck that in there under our noses! He even has Toji's battle outfit more closely inspired by Chinese fashion typically worn by Wushu and Tachiquan practitioners! 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️😩 Omg, how deep does tbis rabbit hole GO??????

  • @sayyidf.b.6378
    @sayyidf.b.6378 11 місяців тому +25

    14:13 Toji is the perfect foil for Gojo, and they are both different and similar in so many interesting ways. One interesting contrast between Toji and Gojo is that Gojo is revered by the masses of Jujutsu society for his strength, but Toji's strength is only recognized by those who represent the very pinnacle of Jujutsu society. Noaya, a child prodigy with an inherited technique; Gojo, a limitless + six-eyes user; and Yuki, a special grade, are all in awe of Toji. Sukuna was also very intrigued by the heavenly restriction (wielded by Maki).

  • @vaayuo
    @vaayuo 11 місяців тому +2

    Why are you making me cry brooo
    Damn i didn't expect to get so emotional

  • @coolbeans3752
    @coolbeans3752 11 місяців тому +7

    My favorite videos you ever made were about Tai Lung and the Females in Naruto.
    Both of them changed my perspective on life, as well as how I viewed the franchises.

    • @imtrashimtrash1403
      @imtrashimtrash1403 11 місяців тому +1

      Imagine he did a video about Everything Everywhere All At Once

  • @essent9924
    @essent9924 11 місяців тому +5

    Phenomenal video and character analysis. Everything you put forward makes sense, and shows motive behind Toji besides gambling/money. My perspective has changed on the character, hes one of my favourites now.

  • @SeseOB2003
    @SeseOB2003 11 місяців тому +13

    Toji is a very conflicting character, as he commits immoral acts that create destruction and tragedy like killing Riko and being the start of Geto’s descent into madness, but he himself has tragic aspects of himself from being victim of mistreatment from the zenin clan and the loss of his wife.

  • @CokeorPepsi888
    @CokeorPepsi888 11 місяців тому +4

    Love a new upload, thank u

  • @justintravis1465
    @justintravis1465 11 місяців тому +2

    Aye you rock bro, that was a great, in-depth video of a complex character. To most Toji is a heartless killer but you made him seem so human in that he is simply a product of his environment. Keep it up big dog😤🙌🏾

  • @xaviercrow1886
    @xaviercrow1886 11 місяців тому +7

    I was really praying you're going to do a character analysis on one of my favorite characters

  • @faithful9083
    @faithful9083 11 місяців тому +6

    Idk what else to say but bravo man, earned a new sub hope u blow up!

  • @phage6982
    @phage6982 9 місяців тому +2

    I love Touji so much... Sadly because I can relate to him so much. I've internalized my pain like he did and tore myself apart with it. I get that fuck it attitude. Full Send

  • @mayhewstorm1473
    @mayhewstorm1473 11 місяців тому +3

    You should read horror stories or narrate horror manga or something, your voice is incredibly soothing and that’s perfect for those kinds of things.
    Love the video, Toji is awesome in my book, keep up the great work, Sage

  • @Rdc_Dom
    @Rdc_Dom 11 місяців тому +6

    "those who inherited the curse of the Zenin family. The one who couldn't fully leave behind that curse, they would all bear witness, to the bear flesh of the one who is free, to the one who left it all behind, and his overwhelming intensity."
    Despite how overplayed this narrator speech is, it truly does encapsulate the fundamental beauty of Toji's character. A man "cursed" with no godlike abilities. And yet free from thr suffering caused by cured energy. Who in the face a deep loneliness, depression, and meaninglessness. Discarded all which he held deer in order to attempt to be free from his humanity.

  • @christianrivera6949
    @christianrivera6949 11 місяців тому

    you cooked on this one your style of writing is inspirational to me

  • @masterchiefblank4885
    @masterchiefblank4885 11 місяців тому +1

    I dont know why, watching almost any of your videos makes me cry for some reason

  • @shikatsu
    @shikatsu 3 місяці тому +1

    From the base, it really feels like there is a serious energy of "Hero of another story" in Toji, but also it is interesting possibly to view it through the cultural lens that karma/fate/duty are so important in Japanese culture and here was someone who could not do the family business, and yet...he could have been the best worker/member they had even without the magics

  • @rylansabin4683
    @rylansabin4683 10 місяців тому +9

    What if Toji actually took care and trained megumi, imagine how much of a power house megumi could have been. Even though Toji has no experience training a person especially a person with a curse technique but he would probably still be strong than current megumi.

    • @Teddy3230-u4d
      @Teddy3230-u4d 8 місяців тому +3

      Going by the different power sets it wouldn’t have made much difference but the mentality would be like night and day. Megumi didn’t think much of himself so he unknowingly crippled his power with a loving parent to help his self esteem he most likely would have had a perfect domain by his introduction in S1

  • @nostrilcake
    @nostrilcake 11 місяців тому +9

    Toji really is the ultimate being.

  • @oliaziabrieva8662
    @oliaziabrieva8662 8 місяців тому

    I watched several videos from this channel since UA-cam offered me it yesterday and I sincerely wish more followers to gain cuz these analysis are incredible !!!

  • @DovahTheWatcher
    @DovahTheWatcher 11 місяців тому +8

    Imagine having the strength to protect your one bit of happiness from a world of curses and sorcerers and losing her to regular life, i get him just leaving Megumi.

  • @carlosyanes3453
    @carlosyanes3453 Місяць тому

    Thank you for making this video.

  • @montenegroafro4454
    @montenegroafro4454 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for making this video! Aside from Nanami, Toji is my 2nd favorite character because from the first time I saw this man I knew he had A LOT of sh*t suppressed away for so many years to the point of being apathetic to everything in life...a broken man, under the weight of his own pride (and low self-worth), abused by the Zenin clan and abandoned his kids without a father to protect them.

  • @seroromix
    @seroromix 11 місяців тому +14

    Man I need a toji prequel series as soon JJK is finished.

    • @marcos-anjos
      @marcos-anjos 11 місяців тому

      There is a one shot fan made that is quite good

    • @seroromix
      @seroromix 11 місяців тому

      @@marcos-anjos oh i know. I read it and i loved it now i want more

    • @JetShanghai
      @JetShanghai 5 місяців тому

      @@seroromix What's it called?

    • @seroromix
      @seroromix 5 місяців тому

      @@JetShanghai Jujustu Kaisen - Hibernation mangadex

  • @Hunter-ok1cu
    @Hunter-ok1cu 11 місяців тому +1

    Such a great character analysis

  • @tacotron770
    @tacotron770 11 місяців тому +1

    SAGE POSTED RAHHH

  • @moamel503
    @moamel503 11 місяців тому

    Am truly impressed. The last words of the video were truly moving. Respect.

  • @puneetchauhan7164
    @puneetchauhan7164 8 місяців тому

    Toji is my favourite character. this video was beautiful. perfectly captures his humanity.

  • @WhackedoutCookie
    @WhackedoutCookie 11 місяців тому

    This is gonna be so good. Thank you sage

  • @Davor..H
    @Davor..H 3 місяці тому

    @Sage's Rain My Man, this video is dope AF
    Got my vote Brother..

  • @HeartlessDissident
    @HeartlessDissident 6 місяців тому

    Truly incredible work! Your insight is appreciated 🎉

  • @monstermaker73
    @monstermaker73 2 місяці тому

    This is fire. Immediately subscribed :]

  • @Hayeshaze91
    @Hayeshaze91 2 місяці тому

    “Goji was the only man that could see him” oh the word play/pun there was phenomenal. Subbed

  • @SwarupRamon
    @SwarupRamon 8 місяців тому

    Great analysis. Loved it ❤

  • @pajorion
    @pajorion 5 місяців тому +1

    Honestly speaking. I think in the grand scheme of things, Toji might actually be amongst the most important characters in JJK (plot wise), he led the way for everything, For Gojo and Geto to get how they are, thus creating awakened gojo, and distanced geto, geto turning evil thus creating the vessel for Kenjaku, Toji also created Megumi which created the vessel for Sukuna to fully realize himself in the world, PLUS to adapt to Gojo, his actions in the JJK world arent so visual, but they are insanely prominent, probably the most prominent overall when talking about sheer amount of progress in story caused by the actions of a single character, most of the character building for a big portion of the cast, if not all, stem from Toji being there at some point. Absolutely my favourite character.

  • @kyleburnett-lytle8956
    @kyleburnett-lytle8956 11 місяців тому

    I love all of your videos. So in-depth from a perspective that i would have not think of. Great job and keep it up!

  • @MontyMorala
    @MontyMorala 8 місяців тому

    Amazing Video! Thank You!

  • @LSgaming201
    @LSgaming201 5 місяців тому +3

    Toji's existence is a direct contradiction to everything the Zenin believe. Undeniable proof that their belief system is a lie. That the greatest Zenin to ever live had no cursed energy.
    Thats why they could never accept him. To accept him as he was would be to accept that they are wrong.

  • @SemekiIzuio
    @SemekiIzuio 11 місяців тому +5

    Just one thing Fushiguro is the last name of his 2nd wife, not his first that gave birth to Megumi. Meaning to Toji, Fushiguro was simply a last name to cut himself and his son away from Zen in. No matter how much he wanted to escape Zen in, he couldnt just leave that behind. At least when Gojo came around, he might have thought hed have a better option to have his kid not be associate eith Zen in but also be a strong sorcerer

  • @crazyfoxpodcast
    @crazyfoxpodcast 8 місяців тому

    that video my friend just got you a subscription 🙈 holy shit love the commentary on this. My favorite character in all of JJK

  • @yungdoe6513
    @yungdoe6513 10 місяців тому

    yoooo sage was good ?! love seeing you doing great man ive been following your channel for years now man and it aided me growing through the years and im really happy to see you and your channel grow too !!! its amazing to see how a soul in germany can be affected by the words of a genuine and honest soul in the us talking about topics of his interest!
    much love! keep up the good work! stay healthy and happy brother

  • @yeetwoodmac6920
    @yeetwoodmac6920 11 місяців тому

    Awesome work, thank you ❤

  • @LICENFIREFEAR
    @LICENFIREFEAR 11 місяців тому +1

    beautiful video👌🙌, toji and megumi both are the most tragic characters in jujutsu kaisen and i wish things turned out better, if megumis mother didnt die toji would have not sufferd anymore

  • @joaquimrietveld8297
    @joaquimrietveld8297 8 місяців тому +1

    A great thing too about the differences that toji sees between him and megumi is during shibuya and in the inventory arc. Toji dies because he refused to run and let his pride take over when fighting someone so strong, while megumi doesn’t feel conflicted at all to run away when faced by him. That small little “good for you” hits really hard and makes so much sense for him to say. He’s glad he’s not prideful like he was as well as seeing him not be affected by the zenin clan curse like he also was.

  • @christof4230
    @christof4230 11 місяців тому

    This is a pure masterpiece.

  • @SilasSeiler
    @SilasSeiler 11 місяців тому +5

    "The Monkey who killed a God"
    What a great title for the video

  • @spehusshyvia
    @spehusshyvia 11 місяців тому

    Great video, great editing, interesting topic

  • @Hpon.
    @Hpon. 11 місяців тому

    love when new SR videos drop.

  • @IkEisawesome7
    @IkEisawesome7 10 місяців тому

    A JJK video without manga spoilers! Glad I could watch it, because it was really good

  • @Punk_Mayhem
    @Punk_Mayhem 8 місяців тому

    This guy is my favourite elder brother! Doesn’t matter whether he knows or cares, but whereever you are big saz I love you! ❤❤❤ such an unempathetic one, no care for the world, where are these tears drops coming from! strange! Into the void we slowly become nothingness. ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @anvy1231
    @anvy1231 11 місяців тому

    Your voice is soothing. I subscribed

  • @_Incognonymous
    @_Incognonymous 11 місяців тому

    I really enjoy these videos (especially the adventure time ones). Im studying psychology right now and plan to pursue a career in it so using these videos as reference to learn how to read people, their personalities etc is so interesting

  • @That_0neGuy56
    @That_0neGuy56 4 місяці тому +1

    I know I’m late, but Toji being voiced by DIO of all fucking people, makes it even more better for how much of a menace he’s become.

  • @Swift_Titan3
    @Swift_Titan3 11 місяців тому +4

    10 mins after sparing his son:
    WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON

  • @ramonyanez89
    @ramonyanez89 11 місяців тому +3

    I feel like part of the reason why Toji tells Satorou about Megumi is because of how different Gojo is from the Zen'in. Having just done a hit on this teenager, we know that he knows who he is now. His habits and even how he does things. His strength and character are things that, in his final moments, are clearly shown to be of value to Toji. It's said that every parent wants their kids life to be better than their own. I don't think Toji saw the Zen'in lifestyle as capable of producing that, regardless of how Megumi was treated on the surface, he would still be mired in that environment. Moreover I think it's a shrewd move. If his kid has a technique, are the Zen'in really going to mount some kind of plot to stop him from being with and under the care [and possible tutelage] of the holder of the six-eyes and limitless?

  • @tommotosh2487
    @tommotosh2487 7 місяців тому

    you are very good at this man