I've got the USA 92 floydrose original. You have to remember the original floydrose strat didn't have a cut out routed fully so you couldn't get any extreme range of movement, just half a step up. These mexican floydrose strats are actually made better than the USA ones due to this. The USA strats floydrose also rattles against the wood due to the no cut out.
Thanks MrSmoothasf, I totally appreciate you input. I agree. I like having the recess as well. Please let me know if there is any specific content you’d like to see on the channel. Thanks again for watching and your contribution.
Interesting info here ,I have a Casio PG380 white with a Floyd the real one from 1988 installed and in a couple of weeks I will get my strat so i will be able to see if they are the same floyd cut and could eventually make a swap .Only the Casio floyd is black with titanium saddle !.Good video and sound .thanks
@@tofmelon7922they actually have a video on here that actually compares the different saddles from Titanium to Brass and the difference is unbelievable as far as sustaine ~ I also purchased the titanium to put in my BC Rich Bich , but I would have to say the brass was most impressive..
I got the same guitar. I changed the bridge pickup to a X2N because I like the sound more. I think the “problem” is the nut area where they have just taken a normal player neck and routed a shelf for the nut and not designed a neck specifically for a locking nut.
Great point! For experimentation purposes I bought a Squire and installed the locking nut. I had to grind the center of the locking nut to clear the truss rod. Did you take this nut off and notice a relief for the truss rod nut? I actually shaped my truss rod nut like a bullet to provide clearance. So mentioning a neck specifically for a locking nut is a valid question/comment.
I got mine, just like yours in late 2018. I played it stock for a couple years and found that the humbucker was hooked up to 250k ports so it wasn't getting as high an output as it should. I love the Floyd Special. It holds up to everything I do to it and it stays in tune well. My neck feels strangely similar to any of the Charvel So Cal necks. Love the thick finish on the maple board. I bought a new pick guard cut for 1 hum and 1 volume. I put a Seymour Duncan low friction 500k volume pot and a Seymour Duncan TB 6 Distortion humbucker in. I upgraded the bridge with a bunch of FU Tone stuff and lower tension springs. Dollar for dollar I have an EVH style Fender Strat. Love it! Basically what I have always wanted less the stripes. Before I modded my Strat it sounded great and could cover a ton of different genres. Anyone would be well served with this model. Great video sir.
I agree. For the money, these things are great and so open to modifications! You can always add stripes. Thank you for watching and I'm glad you liked the video.
Thanks for the review. Did the lighter springs make a difference in the feel of the trem? I got some noisless ones, but they seem stiff. Another guitar I have had lighter springs, but it requires all three of I run out of tightening space to get it level. That kind of defeats the purpose.
@@qua7771 Send FU Tone an email and tell Adam what your looking for and he will hook you up. I got light tension noisles springs. It feels as good as my Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder.
I bought a Schecter Blue Reign last year, was over a grand. I was pretty disappointed when I realized it came with a Floyd Special. I stripped one of the saddles on the first string change because the saddles are zink and the screw is steel. Ended up buying a set of stainless saddles on Amazon for it and it's ok now. Still upset that a $1000 guitar came with a Floyd Special though. Normally I just replace the entire trem unit with a licensed Floyd from Gotoh, which I have done 8 times now on other guitars, lol. Much love for Gotoh.
Hi RetroQuest, It’s funny, with all of the new guitars being made by CNC, you’d think the prices would at least stabilize due to decreased manufacturing costs. I guess they need to grab every cent wherever they can. It was not long ago when $1000 got you a high end guitar. I agree it should not have had a special in a $1k guitar. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks Josh. Here’s a link to my Floyd rose comparison video. ua-cam.com/video/SEPCYM5uXE4/v-deo.html I really appreciate you watching and participating.
Hi CB SON, The Lockmeister will fit anywhere a Floyd was installed as their dimensions are identical. That includes the original, the special, and the 1000 series. Thank you for watching and commenting.
I actually bought the neck off one of these guitars the other day. I want to swap it out of my MIM strat which has a Floyd but has the 9.5" radius, so i thought id swap the neck on it to something similar but with a 12" radius. I hope it doesn't turn out shit and the neck is ok. Also the new neck i bought is maple the old one is rosewood.
Hi RabidGerry, On the Floyd rose, there should be some shims under the saddles if it is set up for 9.5. If so, just remove the shims and reset you intonation. After that it should be fine. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@primaltone9064hi man, thanks for that. I never even thought Bout that. I have a weird feeling my saddles on the Floyd are not shimmed. Meaning they've stuck a 12" radius trem on a guitar with 9.5" fretboard. We shall see. Two other things to note about my guitar, it's some kind of licenced FR which I believe is decent, steel saddles, steel plate, small brass block, but the down side is the strat body doesn't have a cavity for the fr trem to sit in. It literally is mounted like a vintage trem where whammy dives are possible but pulling up is not possible as the plate has nowhere to move as there is no recessed area. So no upward pulling on that guitar not that I do that really anyways. I think as it's steel all over it beats the GR special. Stays in tune as well. Before I had this strat I had another one, older MIM which was stolen on me. It had an FR II installed. Both axes came as stock. With these terms. So the one I own now, some random licenced FR, and the older was an FR II. The one I have now is definitely better than that FRII. Thanks for this btw it was useful to me.
Waiting for the trem installation video :D I would do exactly the same thing. Do you know specs about that licensed FR ? I was wondering if Ibanez Edge low pro would fit in.
I will have it posted by the end of this week. I’m not sure about the Ibanez but the Schaller is a direct replacement. The dimensions are identical to the Floyd rose. There are no mods required.
I apologize for the delay. The video in question will have some playing in it and I had a minor finger injury which seems to be healing up pretty well. You can expect it before the end of the weekend.
Did tuning is easy on this FR bridge, how much days it will stay in tune if we use tremolo very less..??? Do we have to daily spare time for tuning with very less use of tremolo..??
The tremolo being a Floyd Rose special on a fender plus just makes zero sense at least to me. Since I've been watching the UA-cam channel and finding these guitars such as Sire among many others. They not only offer a Floyd Rose 1000 series , but a real roasted neck thru and thru. Most also come with real abalone inlays , locking tuners and the craftsmanship and quality control of guitars costing around $500 if not less is just amazing and the guitars are literally flawless after your final quality control inspection. I even looked at a Jackson and this was a usa-made Jackson , $4 grand US pricing. Whereas the Sire what's a little more to offer other than pick ups ~ $560 with a SKB ~ TSA hardshell case. I personally have been playing over 40 years and always thought brands carried a symbol of expertise in craftsmanship. Now 40 years later I'm finding that to be completely untrue. Even AOL or Wolf guitars ~ WOW , something you just have to really look at to believe and I even had to watch a video of it because people were saying the inlays are stickers etc etc etc ~ all untrue , Wolf even in their Les Paul style guitars.. even The binding is real abalone , definitely worth watching a video and checking that out before you spend two or three grand on your next guitar ( even the headstock inlays are real abalone ) unless it's just the brand name you're looking for ~ because on several models even on the Gibson which my latest is a 2017 Les Paul HP bourbon burst , love it . But Epiphone has stepped it up such as the Jerry Cantrell and Adam Jones signature , even the Joe Bonamassa signature models sell out before the signature Slash edition Epiphone models...
Hi Bobby, Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree about the brand name, production model, pricing. It feels like the big names are definitely taking advantage. Most production guitars are made on a CNC machine where they can knock out several bodies and necks at a time. The less expensive models are now made the same way. A good example is fender. The American strats start at around $1700. The Mexican ones (prior to COVID) were $579-$700. Now the Mexican guitars range from $830-$1100+. I’m sure this was based solely on the popularity of the Mexican guitars due to them being more affordable. Also, look at the prices of the Les Paul Tribute. ( The least expensive USA Les Paul they make) $1300 and nothing to write home about. I realize prices can’t stay the same forever. But why the excessive profit margins? Anyway, the you for your contribution Bobby!
@@primaltone9064I suppose I can't argue with that lol. I upgraded the fine tuners on mine with the German ones, along with titanium posts, saddle inserts, and saddle locking screws, and titanium string lock bolts. Obviously I've also upgraded the nut and parts with German made. Works great for me. Especially since I play 12 guage and in B standard lol
Hey I looked on the Floyd Rose site about retrofits for the Special. Although the Floyd Rose Original will fit that Fender it says the locking bolts may not allow for pulling up on the OFR due to the route not being long enough. Is this the case with your Player?
Hi Armondo, I had absolutely no issues with the retrofit. However, I did install a trem stop because I added a D-tuna which won’t work with a floating Floyd. They are definitely interchangeable.
Cool! Lockmeister aha.. that"s their name kind of...and then I got myself two lockmeisters, one to support the other and mixed together I gote one that works ok. Cool guitar cool playing but I think people are way too keen in swapping parts. I will think that the Floyd that came bolted on is way better than any Messersmith super duper Floyd also made in Chi... ähum koff koff.. made in Germany.
I've got the USA 92 floydrose original. You have to remember the original floydrose strat didn't have a cut out routed fully so you couldn't get any extreme range of movement, just half a step up. These mexican floydrose strats are actually made better than the USA ones due to this. The USA strats floydrose also rattles against the wood due to the no cut out.
Thanks MrSmoothasf,
I totally appreciate you input. I agree. I like having the recess as well.
Please let me know if there is any specific content you’d like to see on the channel.
Thanks again for watching and your contribution.
Interesting info here ,I have a Casio PG380 white with a Floyd the real one from 1988 installed and in a couple of weeks I will get my strat so i will be able to see if they are the same floyd cut and could eventually make a swap .Only the Casio floyd is black with titanium saddle !.Good video and sound .thanks
The made in Mexico don't let that surprise you , they are some of the best guitars fender and second to none even compared to the USA models
@@tofmelon7922they actually have a video on here that actually compares the different saddles from Titanium to Brass and the difference is unbelievable as far as sustaine ~ I also purchased the titanium to put in my BC Rich Bich , but I would have to say the brass was most impressive..
I got the same guitar. I changed the bridge pickup to a X2N because I like the sound more. I think the “problem” is the nut area where they have just taken a normal player neck and routed a shelf for the nut and not designed a neck specifically for a locking nut.
Are you having a fret buzz issue?
Great point! For experimentation purposes I bought a Squire and installed the locking nut. I had to grind the center of the locking nut to clear the truss rod. Did you take this nut off and notice a relief for the truss rod nut? I actually shaped my truss rod nut like a bullet to provide clearance. So mentioning a neck specifically for a locking nut is a valid question/comment.
I got mine, just like yours in late 2018. I played it stock for a couple years and found that the humbucker was hooked up to 250k ports so it wasn't getting as high an output as it should. I love the Floyd Special. It holds up to everything I do to it and it stays in tune well. My neck feels strangely similar to any of the Charvel So Cal necks. Love the thick finish on the maple board. I bought a new pick guard cut for 1 hum and 1 volume. I put a Seymour Duncan low friction 500k volume pot and a Seymour Duncan TB 6 Distortion humbucker in. I upgraded the bridge with a bunch of FU Tone stuff and lower tension springs. Dollar for dollar I have an EVH style Fender Strat. Love it! Basically what I have always wanted less the stripes. Before I modded my Strat it sounded great and could cover a ton of different genres. Anyone would be well served with this model. Great video sir.
I agree. For the money, these things are great and so open to modifications! You can always add stripes. Thank you for watching and I'm glad you liked the video.
250k pot, that's bloody shocking!
@@richardjones2811 I hear that is what EVH used early on
Thanks for the review. Did the lighter springs make a difference in the feel of the trem? I got some noisless ones, but they seem stiff. Another guitar I have had lighter springs, but it requires all three of I run out of tightening space to get it level. That kind of defeats the purpose.
@@qua7771 Send FU Tone an email and tell Adam what your looking for and he will hook you up. I got light tension noisles springs. It feels as good as my Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder.
Introducing the all new "where's my back cover" fender. I love Floyds.
I hear the fr specials are alot better quality then they used to be. Try finding a replacement for an original edge lol
Definitely going with the Lockmeister Floyd myself, with F-U upgrades.
Thank you Mr. Timebomb Man,
FU Tone is a great resource for Floyd upgrades.
I really want one of these
I like Floyds and I own a kramer Jersey Star just what Richie Sambora used for livin on a prayer live in 1987.
Hi Nick,
Those are really cool guitars. Is yours one of the newer versions or is it a vintage 80s/90s one?
I bought a Schecter Blue Reign last year, was over a grand. I was pretty disappointed when I realized it came with a Floyd Special. I stripped one of the saddles on the first string change because the saddles are zink and the screw is steel. Ended up buying a set of stainless saddles on Amazon for it and it's ok now. Still upset that a $1000 guitar came with a Floyd Special though. Normally I just replace the entire trem unit with a licensed Floyd from Gotoh, which I have done 8 times now on other guitars, lol. Much love for Gotoh.
Hi RetroQuest,
It’s funny, with all of the new guitars being made by CNC, you’d think the prices would at least stabilize due to decreased manufacturing costs. I guess they need to grab every cent wherever they can. It was not long ago when $1000 got you a high end guitar. I agree it should not have had a special in a $1k guitar.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for the thorough review - the Floyd quality on these is what I'm interested in, and possibly replacing if I buy one.
Thanks Josh. Here’s a link to my Floyd rose comparison video.
ua-cam.com/video/SEPCYM5uXE4/v-deo.html
I really appreciate you watching and participating.
@@primaltone9064 Not sure I caught this detail but which nut did you get with the trem - is it the R3 or R2?
It is the R2.
Can lockmeister fit into this fender without any modification ? I am looking at replacing it but not sure which one can fit directly without mod ?
Hi CB SON,
The Lockmeister will fit anywhere a Floyd was installed as their dimensions are identical.
That includes the original, the special, and the 1000 series.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
@@primaltone9064 thanks for the advice !!
I actually bought the neck off one of these guitars the other day. I want to swap it out of my MIM strat which has a Floyd but has the 9.5" radius, so i thought id swap the neck on it to something similar but with a 12" radius. I hope it doesn't turn out shit and the neck is ok. Also the new neck i bought is maple the old one is rosewood.
Hi RabidGerry,
On the Floyd rose, there should be some shims under the saddles if it is set up for 9.5.
If so, just remove the shims and reset you intonation.
After that it should be fine.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@primaltone9064hi man, thanks for that. I never even thought Bout that. I have a weird feeling my saddles on the Floyd are not shimmed. Meaning they've stuck a 12" radius trem on a guitar with 9.5" fretboard. We shall see. Two other things to note about my guitar, it's some kind of licenced FR which I believe is decent, steel saddles, steel plate, small brass block, but the down side is the strat body doesn't have a cavity for the fr trem to sit in. It literally is mounted like a vintage trem where whammy dives are possible but pulling up is not possible as the plate has nowhere to move as there is no recessed area. So no upward pulling on that guitar not that I do that really anyways. I think as it's steel all over it beats the GR special. Stays in tune as well. Before I had this strat I had another one, older MIM which was stolen on me. It had an FR II installed. Both axes came as stock. With these terms. So the one I own now, some random licenced FR, and the older was an FR II. The one I have now is definitely better than that FRII. Thanks for this btw it was useful to me.
Waiting for the trem installation video :D I would do exactly the same thing.
Do you know specs about that licensed FR ? I was wondering if Ibanez Edge low pro would fit in.
I will have it posted by the end of this week. I’m not sure about the Ibanez but the Schaller is a direct replacement. The dimensions are identical to the Floyd rose. There are no mods required.
I apologize for the delay. The video in question will have some playing in it and I had a minor finger injury which seems to be healing up pretty well. You can expect it before the end of the weekend.
I Have a same guitar. In Japan. Nice Price & Sound.
Did tuning is easy on this FR bridge, how much days it will stay in tune if we use tremolo very less..??? Do we have to daily spare time for tuning with very less use of tremolo..??
Hi Yash, The tuning is pretty great if you stretch the strings prior to locking the nut.
The tremolo being a Floyd Rose special on a fender plus just makes zero sense at least to me. Since I've been watching the UA-cam channel and finding these guitars such as Sire among many others. They not only offer a Floyd Rose 1000 series , but a real roasted neck thru and thru. Most also come with real abalone inlays , locking tuners and the craftsmanship and quality control of guitars costing around $500 if not less is just amazing and the guitars are literally flawless after your final quality control inspection. I even looked at a Jackson and this was a usa-made Jackson , $4 grand US pricing. Whereas the Sire what's a little more to offer other than pick ups ~ $560 with a SKB ~ TSA hardshell case. I personally have been playing over 40 years and always thought brands carried a symbol of expertise in craftsmanship. Now 40 years later I'm finding that to be completely untrue. Even AOL or Wolf guitars ~ WOW , something you just have to really look at to believe and I even had to watch a video of it because people were saying the inlays are stickers etc etc etc ~ all untrue , Wolf even in their Les Paul style guitars.. even The binding is real abalone , definitely worth watching a video and checking that out before you spend two or three grand on your next guitar ( even the headstock inlays are real abalone ) unless it's just the brand name you're looking for ~ because on several models even on the Gibson which my latest is a 2017 Les Paul HP bourbon burst , love it . But Epiphone has stepped it up such as the Jerry Cantrell and Adam Jones signature , even the Joe Bonamassa signature models sell out before the signature Slash edition Epiphone models...
Hi Bobby,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree about the brand name, production model, pricing. It feels like the big names are definitely taking advantage. Most production guitars are made on a CNC machine where they can knock out several bodies and necks at a time. The less expensive models are now made the same way. A good example is fender. The American strats start at around $1700. The Mexican ones (prior to COVID) were $579-$700. Now the Mexican guitars range from $830-$1100+. I’m sure this was based solely on the popularity of the Mexican guitars due to them being more affordable. Also, look at the prices of the Les Paul Tribute. ( The least expensive USA Les Paul they make) $1300 and nothing to write home about. I realize prices can’t stay the same forever. But why the excessive profit margins? Anyway, the you for your contribution Bobby!
The Floyd Rose 1000 series are pretty damn good too. What's your opinion?
Hi Chris, I agree. However I feel the original and the lockmeister are a little smoother as far as the fine tuning goes.
@@primaltone9064I suppose I can't argue with that lol. I upgraded the fine tuners on mine with the German ones, along with titanium posts, saddle inserts, and saddle locking screws, and titanium string lock bolts. Obviously I've also upgraded the nut and parts with German made. Works great for me. Especially since I play 12 guage and in B standard lol
Hi Chris,
Nice!
How do you like the titanium inserts? have you notice any change in sustain?
@@primaltone9064 definitely is more resonant I've found. Just feels tighter overall.
Money would have been better spent on a Carvel San Dimas pro. Better equipped quality hardware, also fender owned and almost the same price.
Hey I looked on the Floyd Rose site about retrofits for the Special. Although the Floyd Rose Original will fit that Fender it says the locking bolts may not allow for pulling up on the OFR due to the route not being long enough. Is this the case with your Player?
Hi Armondo, I had absolutely no issues with the retrofit.
However, I did install a trem stop because I added a D-tuna which won’t work with a floating Floyd.
They are definitely interchangeable.
Just swap the screws over and it'll fit right in. No big deal.
Do you think it’s a better guitar than the Charvel San Dimas?
I don’t know. I guess I’ll have to get the charvel and check it out.
this is a killer guitar!
Would you say it is worthy it? Bang for the buck?
Absolutely. It sounds good right out of the box. It just needs normal set up.
@@primaltone9064 thanks
Cant you gift one guitar for me..
Woww...its good..👍👍
Maybe someday
I got one for 600$ used small dent from shipping. I like my sss more
Awesome deal! I like Awesome deal! I like the SSS and the HSS for different reasons.the pickups are really pretty nice in both versions.
That's a find.
I got mine for 400 and it was a bit dirty but I cleaned it up and it plays fine minus the Floyd Rose giving me issues
That's a nice guitar for the 💰.
I agree. It really kicks ass!
I agree.
The Special sucks, If you have one that stays in tune - then you got lucky. The one in my Nuno is garbage, swapped it out for an Original.
Big E...your friends in NJ...love you
#guiutarlegend
Phil, It is awesome to hear from you! I love and miss all of you!
I hear your looking for a virtual rythem section....I may know a couple of douche bags who may be avail
Cool! Lockmeister aha.. that"s their name kind of...and then I got myself two lockmeisters, one to support the other and mixed together I gote one that works ok.
Cool guitar cool playing but I think people are way too keen in swapping parts.
I will think that the Floyd that came bolted on is way better than any Messersmith super duper Floyd also made in Chi... ähum koff koff.. made in Germany.
Sweet!
Sweetwater !
clean up that room damn...
The next video will absolutely show a cleaner workspace.
Clean your room it’s messy dammmmm
Noted. LOL