Speaking about livestreams, no one will ever convince me it's normal to make idols go on live on their birthday, and if they don't people complain the companies are mistreating the idols. I'm sorry but what?? On their birthday they probably want to be with their family and friends not working, like imagine you're a cashier and your boss makes you work on your birthday especially because it is your birthday and the clients want to see the birthday person????? It's not just making them work, many people work on their birthday (although some companies have policies that give the opportunity of not working on the workers birthday, at least in my country it's common) it's making them do extra work, because some of these idols do lives after a full day of promotions. I'm sorry but in any other industry this would be considered insane.
I definitely agree. If an idol wants to go live on their birthday, cool. But for other idols, possibly the last thing they want to do on their birthday is sit in front of a camera. I get some fans want to celebrate it with them, but idols should never feel obligated to do so. A simple happy birthday comment on their page or happy birthday post is enough. Nowadays weverse is a good place to post those types of messages and most likely your favorite idol will see it.
@@luna_n0va Exactly it would be nice to see more companies allowing or even implementing boundaries on that. I think it's more common to see senior groups and idols not doing lives but it would be nice to just see it even with rookies.
i dont think anyone understands the mental and physical weight of WORLD tours. Its genuinely crazy how they survived that for 400+ days and how they are about to go on another. (people will start comparing to western artists, but kpop bands are forced to look good while dancing sychronised and singing in tight fits for 3h straight) What scares me more is that they had been working on R:U, a full length album, through that whole tour. (Yall thats fucking bonkers considering how insanely good that album was) All that choreography and everything piling on, while also maintaining visual presence and voice condition. Then they are expected to be somewhat eloquent, learn new languages for their fans. I dont know, i will never know how they do it. This industry calls for perfection in every area of a human. Good looks, good health, good body, good skills, good heart, good everything.
Right! Its so sad that the industry is so demanding. They're human and have flaws and struggles. No one's perfect. I really hope they have a good support system and take some time off. As much as I love seeing them promoting, their health is way more important to me. 🤍
@@soparkin genuinely if I had been on a 400+ day tour and then was told by my company that I would be starting _another_ tour the literal _next month_ I would actually break down sobbing ending the tour in September and starting the next one in October???? insanity
I feel like the KPOP industry can feel like a warehouse at times. Strict requirements, strict work schedules, constantly working, rarely resting and high demands to meet. Just makes me worried about the burnout from all of this when (or if) it hits.
Kpop in general is way too fast paced. Having multiple comebacks in a year isn't a thing in most music industries whether you're new or not. It's like we put idols on an age limit and try to milk everything out of them until they're "too old" and fizzle out, disband completely after contracts end, or fans slowly move to a younger group
What's ironic is that when you take a look at belift's site their quote is literally "happy artists make fan happy" which is crazy considering how tired their artists are.I'm glad people start to acknowledge the mental and physical state their favs are in because afterall we shouldn't normalize overworking,even so I hope Enha gets their well deserved rest soon ( ˘︹˘ )
Great points. In tours is really hard to actually relax on the rare down time. Due being in hotels, long travels, time changes, have to be inbetweem coworkers most of time. No choice of food, hobby, time with friends and family... and their show being at night is night turn mixed with day time activities.
There are 2 observations which i want to make is if we look at their setlist, all their songs which are performance heavy are clubbed together and on top of that there are dance breaks. Also lets not forget their choreography is not getting any easier. Second thing i have noticed is 2 days or 3days back to back tour. Like its crazy ...no wonder on the 3rd day they look so exhausted.. When i saw the clip of jay crying on a recent tour i just felt so bad for him. Even their korean fans hate belift
Thank you for this video.. I've been so worried about them and so scared for them. They've been working so much for so long that you can clearly see in so many situation that they need a break. these boys mean so much to me and it hurts so bad to see them so tired that they can barely keep up. I've seen boys falling asleep every chance they have during content and it just hurts to see them like that. I hope that this boycott really helps BeLift realize what is going on. And I honestly could care less of comebacks and tours if it meant that the boys could get a good amount of rest. I could go on a year without new music and it'll make me happy to know that the boys are finally taking a break.
So you would rather they have to cancel the tours they've worked hard to prepare for, get in debt because of the financial hit a canceled world tour will have and be shelved in favor of groups that are actually profitable? Because that's what will happen.
@@mmj9934 that’s all belifts fault. They should not have planned and prepared for back to back tours without considering their artists health. And if Belift knows how to properly manage the boy’s money, they won’t be in debt. They’ve already made so much from the past tours and side brand deals. The boys putting in hard-work for something Belift were inconsiderate about, is not the boys or fans fault. It is their company’s responsibility to handle their schedules correctly and take care of the boys health. And when they don’t, it’s understandable that fans take it into their own hands to try and help. I’d rather have a cancelled tour than the members be injured, exhausted, miserable, and sick. Their health matters. We’ve seen how bad it gets when idols are run to the ground. Look at the reality of the burden Belift has placed on them. Enhypen are a very popular boy group from Hybe labels, they will not lose popularity that easily.
See, I’m really torn here. I’m in Australia. ENHYPEN have never come here and they may only come here once in their careers. If they come here, I may well get a ticket even though they’re overworked - because I don’t live in America - this might be the only time I see them.
@@cursedwyvern3044 I understand that but going to a concert when they are physically overworked to the point they look TIRED. ngl its not fun to watch. They deserve rest.
Thank you for the video, because for some reason ENHYPEN has been so extremely invisible for me throughout the past few years, so I had no clue they were suffering like this. And nope: I'm not just some gg stan, I am multi with bgs included. I hope more people will give the video a watch!
Thank you for putting these points out I strongly agree with you Enhypen deserve a long time rest as fans we should help Enhypen and boycott let’s try our best so our boys can rest!!
I'm an old woman compared to most of y'all and I've seen firsthand what happens when you work someone to the ground. It's not pretty and I would hate to see that happen to these guys.
Be lift lab should be considerate enough to understand the mental and health issues in their artists. Be lift lab should read comments given by fans and other netizens that we as fans of the key pop boy group en hypen we are concerned very much with regards to the health issues if your artists. Do not take for granted the health of your artists. Give your artists a break so they can visit their families their loved ones. Be lift lab on December please give the en hypen and other artists in your company a Christmas break so they can also spend Christmas with their families especially it's Christmas time. Do not let them be overwork. Please read all comments of the fans of your artists especially en hypen . Health is important than money. Be lift lab remember what happened to Jay with his knee injury I continously demand your office to have Jay treated medically because his situation is a serious one. Do not let your artists overwork. Give them time to rest and give them plenty of time to be a group without the camera which they can do activities without the camera. Your artists are human beings not tree. BElIft lab give all your artists time to rest
i think the only way to actually combat your faves being overworked is by boycotting schedules. and this isn't just me just pulling shit out of my ass, back in i think 2018, mamamoo were quite overworked and kept performing at different festivals in different countries etc to the point where fans started boycotting schedules because they were worried for the girls. as much as we can complain online, that won't do anything especially with how normalised conversations of overworking is in the kpop atmosphere. you have to target their source of money cause that's the whole reason they're being overworked in the first place. you as a consumer have power and influence over your faves schedules. if you continuously fund tours, belift will make more tours.
I hope they do actually get a chance to take a long break from doing all this work and just find somewhere private just for them with no cameras or paparazzi just them being alone with each other and having fun
not really the point but just wanted to say it in case no one else did, it's pronounced en hi pen (kinda) and not with the actual pronunciation of hyphen, for a better explanation, you can hear them say it when they introduce themselves and pls dont get me wrong i dont wanna be annoying again, just wanted to say it in case no one else did
So right now at this one anyone as an Engene can't b0ycott the tour cz it's Enhypen who prepared the tour,they participated in production of the concerts and they clearly stated ENGENES TO LOOK FORWARD TO IT! if we really want Enhypen to get out of this overwhelming schedules,we need to make sure that Belift won't add plus plus plus into their schedules means the FATE PLUS like new tours dates,only then it'll be alright,cz before Enhypen went on Manifesto tour and they were really happy about it,the problem that created a problem was Fate plus not fate tour,if fate plus wasn't there,no problem would've occured,so we need to make sure that belift don't add any extended,cz Walk the line was prepared way before than we're thinking !
Even then it's foolish to keep funding their exploitation. Just because enhypen worked on this one themselves (a while back before they were thrown into fate plus and before they were as overworked as they are now) doesn't mean it's morally right to go. If we REALLY want enhypen to rest, the only good way to talk to a money hungry company such as belift/hybe is to take the money part out of the equation. They won't listen to our pleas without the removal of monetary support. It may upset enhypen a bit, but really what's the better option here? Short term disappointment or long term injuries that make them unable to perform and do their job? We can still express our love for enhypen without supporting the company, and boycotting the tour is probably one of the more effective ways to convey that.
@@Moonlightditto what happened to Jungkook….….he worked his ass off and became exactly what he wanted to…a world superstar! Once you get to the level of BTS by not resting, although after 6 years, they did get a month off….they make their own promotional schedules! Enhypen knew what they were getting themselves into! If you want to be on top, you cNt take e tender breaks till you get there, because someone else will take your place in a heartbeat! And you may not get their momentum back! They need to win some big Dasengs for a couple of year and when they do. They will not be easily forgotten!
@@arlo.77 LOONA’s company was mistreating them by overworking them, giving them unfair treatment, and withholding paying them. So the fans boycotted all of the members activities, causing the company to put them on hiatus indefinitely. After the unfair removal of one of their members, the rest filed lawsuits against the company eventually winning and terminating their contracts. But now the group no longer has their name and all the members had to separate. Some of the members rejoined new companies as a group together, while others went solo or decided not to continue in the industry. There are sooo many cases like this in Kpop. It’s extremely sad.
@@arlo.77 In my opinion, it was a good option. If the fans would’ve continued supporting their schedules, they probably would still be stuck under those horrible contracts and conditions without change.
@@nonamenosurname6127 so did BTS….and BTS will continue to do so when they return from the military! You think BTS got to where they did by not touring! I saw them in 2017, then in fall of 2018, spring of 2019, winter in 2019 and has tickets to spring of 2020…..K-Pop works hard and they all know it going into it! Only 5 out of 100 groups a year will have a second year. 2 or 3 might make it to 5 years! 1 in 50 might make it longer than 8! 1 in a hundred might make it into the world stage for longer than 10 years! Give me one group other than BTS that has been around longer than 10 years and can still sell out full stadiums! I’ll wait…..
@@Kai-el7rw 😂😂 lol you always find army that successfully insert bts into a discussion that they are not involved in. Sorry, but your fandom really wants to be involved in everything. Okay, if you read my comment I mentioned the groups that are touring this year and a previous year so, obviously bts is not topic of discussion here. And do not bring me baseless statistics, it's hybe we are talking about billion dollar corporate, their groups do not have to worry about surviving to 3rd year of contract or 5th year, groups from mid or small companies fight for survival not groups of big 4 as long as company does not give up on them. Also, bts is not going on tour any time soon, so do not run around on internet yelling they are gonna sell out stadiums being 10+ year old group. Let them sell out first then we'll have a conversation. Whole point of discussion was mental and physical health of idols from what I understood you seem not to understand it. Overworking is never good for everyone. I'm against it and I expressed it with example of groups touring back to back last couple of years.
@@nonamenosurname6127 I guess we shall see! I saw Enhypen they were great! They couldn’t fill a stadium an 85000 seat stadium yet, but I believe they will! The topic was they are over worked and need a rest! My point is…see what happens to them if they take time off! They all know what they signed up for! And I’m not talking about small entertainment companies…I’m talking the top 3 back in the day…so name me one group that is still relevant today that debuted 12 years ago with all its members still in the group! Where is EXO, or NCT….these were groups from multi million dollar companies! We’ll see I’d TXT resigns, since they are so over worked! Or Enhypen…also apparently abused and so overworked! This is the career they want…they need to work for it! End of story! BTS will be whole in less than 9 months! We’ll see how your prediction pans out! And no…they don’t need to put out hard choreo on every song, but there are lots of older groups that still do!
They are really overworked but hybe and bh in the past did the same to txt and bts. So, its not unique case. I guess, hybe tries to drain their mgs before the enlistment or before the date of resigning new contracts. Its conveyer after all. New toys broke, replave them with the new ones. Txt will have brother bh mg pretty soon, so for hybe their prime time as a group is over. So, enha has 1,5-2 years before they will have their brother group in belift. Btw, I think enha earn money for illit too.
@@caseylevy687 for now, but such merciless expluatation will end their health pretty soon. Bts were in their prime time in 2018 but were so tired and pressed by endless work and responsibilities that they burnt out physically and mentally and discussed the disbandment.
jay went on live the other day saying “Please look forward to what a tour created by Enhypen looks like.” He knows engenes are trying to boycott but is speaking out against it
As much as I want to disagree and absolutely think the boys need and deserve rest, I do agree that they want us to participate in this tour. A lot of the new merch was designed with their input ( I mean the CLOTHING not the lightstick/band) which I know they have wanted to do for a long time, so I would love to support that. The comeback in November THANKFULLY is a repackage. One can only hope that means minimal new choreography, and that the promotion is rolled in to some of these award shows where they perform old favorites and introduce one maybe two new songs-- and not in the same performance at that-- so that things are more balanced. I think it is unrealistic for them to cancel everything that is planned, but modifying it so that performances serve double duty like what I just mentioned, is not a bad plan. Also, since the comeback is a repackage, one could hope that the new song(s) are already created/recorded when they did romance:untold and just not released until now. These would be sensible ( not to mention MONEY SAVING) tactics that hopefully is what is going on so that our boys get some rest and be:Lift (and the boys) get the $$$ be: lift is so trying to maximize.
Not exactly. You do realize the companies have this manipulative almost monopolistic grasp on the idols, correct? Even if they aren't directly being held to "if you say this you're fired" they're still more than likely being brainwashed and manipulated. Additionally, not just enhypen but every artist under a company is monitored, including what they say online. If they just come out against the company they could land themselves out of a job or into hiatus easily, but if that doesn't happen, direct mistreatment from the company (as shown with NewJeans after their burner livestream). So no, enhypen cannot speak for themselves entirely without crucial consequences to their careers. Sure, enhypen worked on this tour, but keep in mind this tour was planned a WHILE ago, when they weren't so overwhelmed with work. This video has some excellent points, so if you truly do love enhypen, it would be in your best interest to take what this video has to say to heart, and apply it.
As a BTS ARMY, I’ll just say, if they want to get to BTS level, they will as hard as BTS did! BTS took the wire first break in 2019! 6 years after debut! I’ve seen Enhypen live, enjoyed their concert, but this is K-Pop! If they want a long career, while they are young they will work their asses off! They can rest when they go to the military!
I’m an ARMY as well. And yes BTS’ did work hard, but let’s not normalize their insane schedules. When BTS came out, Kpop was at an entirely different state than it is now. Kpop groups should not have to overwork themselves to have a successful career. Overworking does not equal working hard. And actually if they want to have a long career, they have to take care of themselves. That’s how you have longevity. Your future is nothing without your health. And do you really think BTS worked this hard, for idols after them to continue to be mistreated and overworked?
@@luna_n0va I think they are being treated better than BTS was. Never have they lived in a 1 bedroom apartment! TXT and Enhypen both had star power from the start because they followed in BTS footsteps and were stars at debut! Working hard is part of the industry! They are choosing this career! I don’t know how long you have been ARMY, but they were not stars until 4 years after debut! If they think they are mistreated, they can quit! I don’t think you will see them doing that. They are living pretty good lives!
@@Kai-el7rw I’ve been an army for a very long time now, but even if I hadn’t been why should that matter? I know what they’ve been through. And even when they started to gain popularity they were still being overworked after that. And BTS actually said that they wanted to disband because of the pressure the industry put on them. They’ve even talked about how badly they were overworked and how it got to them. You do realize that just because ENHYPEN are in a better living arrangement and under a bigger company doesn’t mean they’re not still being mistreated and overworked right? And actually TXT had a very rough start and so did ENHYPEN. All idols experiences are different. No one’s trauma is greater than the other just because it comes in a different package. And saying that a group should just quit, instead of talking about how the company who is doing this to them should change. Try having some empathy and understanding, that no one should have to go through what these idols are put through everyday. It’s not normal and just because this is how it’s always been or this is how Kpop is run, doesn’t make it right. Things can and should change.
@@luna_n0va TXT were Rookie of the Year in all music competitions without first album, which was actually not that great! They have come into their own now. Enhypen had a better first album! Neither group struggle to the top in anyway! BTS thought about disbanding because they were tired…but they signed a new contract 2 years early, so they were dedicated to their fanbase! I have never heard Enhypen complain about work! Maybe RXT, but not Enhypen! This is KPop…if you don’t work hard and everyday, you fall into obscurity in the first 5 years! If either group can do what BTS gave their blood sweat and tears for, they will get solo careers that are just as big as BTS members solo careers! They work till they collapse, because that is the industry! Everyone wants to be the next BTS but there never will be a next BTS because they have not had to suffer through the near failure part of the industry! Both groups were huge after their first albums because they were riding on the coattails of BTS! Hobi was coaching them in dance, RM and Yoongi were writing them songs and other members were helping with stage presence! And in top of that, BTS were still doing their own stuff! I’m just sorry, if they want the same success as BTS they need to live like they are in poverty in the first few years and struggle! They gave NOT had to do that! So even though they work very hard, they will never have worked as hard as the group that paved their way to stardom! I like both groups, have all their music, support then, paid to go see them in concert, but at this point in their careers they are no where near where BTS was at the same point because they never had to make an album in a garage or borrow a mangers vehicle to make a video! Everyone needs to stop complaining on how hard they work! BTS put out 3 albums in 1 year! I saw them in the fall of 2017c the fall of 2018, the spring in 2019 and the winter in 2019! They did a live concert twice during COVID, then I saw the twice in their 4 night shows at the end of 2021 and twice in their spring of 2022! Where was RXT and Enhypen? They weren’t doing that many concerts! So please…quit complaining about how hard the company is on them! They are all millionaires at this point..3 years into their careers! I don’t feel sorry for them! They deserve the money, because they do work hard!
@@Kai-el7rw 1. Bts and Enhypen are two completely different groups that have two very different backgrounds (bts debuted under a poor unknown company and enhypen under a rich famous one, bts were "regular" trainees while enhypen were on a survival show etc). So why are you even comparing them? 2. You're very wrong in the "Never have they lived in a 1 bedroom apartment", because all of the enhypen members literally did share one bedroom. It wasn't until recently that they moved to a new dorm where they don't have to share bedrooms any longer 3. "If they think they are mistreated, they can quit". This is their dream. If you think the solution to a group being mistreated by a company is for the group to disband, you're crazy because the problem here is the greedy companies 4. You listing all the bts concerts/performances you saw during 2017-2022 and then going "Where was Enhypen?" is so weird. Enhypen didn't even debut until the end of 2020! It was covid so they couldn't do any live shows but they did plenty of online performances and concerts. Once the pandemic ended, they started touring in mid 2022 and have been touring since. Yeah bts had a hectic touring schedule but at least they always got like 6-10 months in between their tours, Enhypen got ONE month after finishing their 400+ day long "fate tour"... Don't you realize how insane that schedule is? And next month Enhypen will release their 3rd album of 2024, so they too release a lot of albums while touring, traveling back and forth from different countries. 5. And yeah enhypen might not complain that often because they don't want to worry fans or seem ungrateful. But that doesn't mean that they aren't struggling. Enhypen have been very vocal actually about how tired, mentally and physically, they are. For over a year Jay has had an injured knee and it's not getting any better because he's constantly performing. Members fainting, constantly getting mobbed, their personal information being leaked, d3ath thr3ats etc. Debuting under a rich company doesn't magically make these issues disappear you know, and them earinng a lot of money doesn't make these things any less problematic. A few months ago during an interview they were asked what their biggest wish was to do after their "fate tour" ended, and they all quickly answered that they wanted to have a proper break, a vacation without any cameras. Instead they were instantly sent on another world tour. 6. You think BTS would like seeing you using their hardships to justify their juniors getting mistreated and overworked? There's a reason BTS has decided to be more open about what a hard time they went through earlier in their career, to spread awareness on how inhumane and hectic this industry is. And you don't seem like you've been listening to anything Yoongi have been saying in the past years, about how he wants his juniors to work in better conditions. Have you ever listened to his song "Snooze" which he wrote for his juniors, the lyrics are literally: "It's okay to feel overwhelmed, if it's too much for you, you can take a little rest" and "Don't suffer like I did"
They are big stars, that is correct, but you have to realize that they are STILL human. They have physical limits just like we do, they have nutritional, mental, and physical needs as much as we do, and those needs and limits have been continuously pushed by their company. If you are truly a engene, you'd advocate for their rest.
Speaking about livestreams, no one will ever convince me it's normal to make idols go on live on their birthday, and if they don't people complain the companies are mistreating the idols. I'm sorry but what??
On their birthday they probably want to be with their family and friends not working, like imagine you're a cashier and your boss makes you work on your birthday especially because it is your birthday and the clients want to see the birthday person?????
It's not just making them work, many people work on their birthday (although some companies have policies that give the opportunity of not working on the workers birthday, at least in my country it's common) it's making them do extra work, because some of these idols do lives after a full day of promotions.
I'm sorry but in any other industry this would be considered insane.
I definitely agree. If an idol wants to go live on their birthday, cool. But for other idols, possibly the last thing they want to do on their birthday is sit in front of a camera. I get some fans want to celebrate it with them, but idols should never feel obligated to do so. A simple happy birthday comment on their page or happy birthday post is enough. Nowadays weverse is a good place to post those types of messages and most likely your favorite idol will see it.
@@luna_n0va Exactly it would be nice to see more companies allowing or even implementing boundaries on that. I think it's more common to see senior groups and idols not doing lives but it would be nice to just see it even with rookies.
it should be by choice😭😭😭
i dont think anyone understands the mental and physical weight of WORLD tours. Its genuinely crazy how they survived that for 400+ days and how they are about to go on another. (people will start comparing to western artists, but kpop bands are forced to look good while dancing sychronised and singing in tight fits for 3h straight) What scares me more is that they had been working on R:U, a full length album, through that whole tour. (Yall thats fucking bonkers considering how insanely good that album was) All that choreography and everything piling on, while also maintaining visual presence and voice condition. Then they are expected to be somewhat eloquent, learn new languages for their fans. I dont know, i will never know how they do it. This industry calls for perfection in every area of a human. Good looks, good health, good body, good skills, good heart, good everything.
Right! Its so sad that the industry is so demanding. They're human and have flaws and struggles. No one's perfect. I really hope they have a good support system and take some time off. As much as I love seeing them promoting, their health is way more important to me. 🤍
@@soparkin genuinely if I had been on a 400+ day tour and then was told by my company that I would be starting _another_ tour the literal _next month_ I would actually break down sobbing
ending the tour in September and starting the next one in October???? insanity
I feel like the KPOP industry can feel like a warehouse at times. Strict requirements, strict work schedules, constantly working, rarely resting and high demands to meet. Just makes me worried about the burnout from all of this when (or if) it hits.
Kpop in general is way too fast paced. Having multiple comebacks in a year isn't a thing in most music industries whether you're new or not. It's like we put idols on an age limit and try to milk everything out of them until they're "too old" and fizzle out, disband completely after contracts end, or fans slowly move to a younger group
What's ironic is that when you take a look at belift's site their quote is literally "happy artists make fan happy" which is crazy considering how tired their artists are.I'm glad people start to acknowledge the mental and physical state their favs are in because afterall we shouldn't normalize overworking,even so I hope Enha gets their well deserved rest soon ( ˘︹˘ )
But belift doesn't know that "Tired artists make fans tired"
This is so spot on. I'm so worried about these boys.
We all are worried about them constantly working
Great points.
In tours is really hard to actually relax on the rare down time. Due being in hotels, long travels, time changes, have to be inbetweem coworkers most of time. No choice of food, hobby, time with friends and family... and their show being at night is night turn mixed with day time activities.
Yes, all of this exactly!
There are 2 observations which i want to make is if we look at their setlist, all their songs which are performance heavy are clubbed together and on top of that there are dance breaks. Also lets not forget their choreography is not getting any easier.
Second thing i have noticed is 2 days or 3days back to back tour. Like its crazy ...no wonder on the 3rd day they look so exhausted..
When i saw the clip of jay crying on a recent tour i just felt so bad for him. Even their korean fans hate belift
Thank you for this video.. I've been so worried about them and so scared for them. They've been working so much for so long that you can clearly see in so many situation that they need a break. these boys mean so much to me and it hurts so bad to see them so tired that they can barely keep up. I've seen boys falling asleep every chance they have during content and it just hurts to see them like that. I hope that this boycott really helps BeLift realize what is going on. And I honestly could care less of comebacks and tours if it meant that the boys could get a good amount of rest. I could go on a year without new music and it'll make me happy to know that the boys are finally taking a break.
Finally a kpop video without the use of an AI voice😩 thank you for the video
Please, let them rest 🙏
Thank you so much for this. I hope they rest well, and stay healthy for us always :(
And engenes have bought tickets for this show they don't care about enhypen at all it honestly annoys me
So you would rather they have to cancel the tours they've worked hard to prepare for, get in debt because of the financial hit a canceled world tour will have and be shelved in favor of groups that are actually profitable? Because that's what will happen.
@@mmj9934 that’s all belifts fault. They should not have planned and prepared for back to back tours without considering their artists health. And if Belift knows how to properly manage the boy’s money, they won’t be in debt. They’ve already made so much from the past tours and side brand deals. The boys putting in hard-work for something Belift were inconsiderate about, is not the boys or fans fault. It is their company’s responsibility to handle their schedules correctly and take care of the boys health. And when they don’t, it’s understandable that fans take it into their own hands to try and help. I’d rather have a cancelled tour than the members be injured, exhausted, miserable, and sick. Their health matters. We’ve seen how bad it gets when idols are run to the ground. Look at the reality of the burden Belift has placed on them. Enhypen are a very popular boy group from Hybe labels, they will not lose popularity that easily.
See, I’m really torn here. I’m in Australia. ENHYPEN have never come here and they may only come here once in their careers. If they come here, I may well get a ticket even though they’re overworked - because I don’t live in America - this might be the only time I see them.
@@cursedwyvern3044 I understand that but going to a concert when they are physically overworked to the point they look TIRED. ngl its not fun to watch. They deserve rest.
@@mirianhernandez6862 That is true. I saw Aespa when they looked dead tired and felt super bad for them. It's a lose-lose situation
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@@soomi same, let's have more people watch this!
Thank you for the video, because for some reason ENHYPEN has been so extremely invisible for me throughout the past few years, so I had no clue they were suffering like this. And nope: I'm not just some gg stan, I am multi with bgs included. I hope more people will give the video a watch!
They are not suffering. The first 2 years they were under pandemic. They barely worked.
People need to stream more to support all their efforts. This is their work
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I would like them to have a couple months of break
Thank you for putting these points out I strongly agree with you Enhypen deserve a long time rest as fans we should help Enhypen and boycott let’s try our best so our boys can rest!!
hey :D love the work but I think the video format could be improved by showing pictures of the thing ur talking about ❤
I'm an old woman compared to most of y'all and I've seen firsthand what happens when you work someone to the ground. It's not pretty and I would hate to see that happen to these guys.
Be lift lab should be considerate enough to understand the mental and health issues in their artists. Be lift lab should read comments given by fans and other netizens that we as fans of the key pop boy group en hypen we are concerned very much with regards to the health issues if your artists. Do not take for granted the health of your artists. Give your artists a break so they can visit their families their loved ones. Be lift lab on December please give the en hypen and other artists in your company a Christmas break so they can also spend Christmas with their families especially it's Christmas time. Do not let them be overwork. Please read all comments of the fans of your artists especially en hypen . Health is important than money. Be lift lab remember what happened to Jay with his knee injury I continously demand your office to have Jay treated medically because his situation is a serious one. Do not let your artists overwork. Give them time to rest and give them plenty of time to be a group without the camera which they can do activities without the camera. Your artists are human beings not tree. BElIft lab give all your artists time to rest
i think the only way to actually combat your faves being overworked is by boycotting schedules. and this isn't just me just pulling shit out of my ass, back in i think 2018, mamamoo were quite overworked and kept performing at different festivals in different countries etc to the point where fans started boycotting schedules because they were worried for the girls.
as much as we can complain online, that won't do anything especially with how normalised conversations of overworking is in the kpop atmosphere. you have to target their source of money cause that's the whole reason they're being overworked in the first place. you as a consumer have power and influence over your faves schedules. if you continuously fund tours, belift will make more tours.
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They need an extended break so badly.
Tysm for the video
Gracias por hacer este video exponiendo la explotación laboral que tiene ENHYPEN 😔
Do y’all think HYBE is trying to squeeze as much out of them that they can before they go to the military? It feels like this
I hope they do actually get a chance to take a long break from doing all this work and just find somewhere private just for them with no cameras or paparazzi just them being alone with each other and having fun
Not just them literally most hybe group are being over worked please let them rest :(
You realize hybe has nothing to do with artists schedules that is the responsibility of the individual labels.
not really the point but just wanted to say it in case no one else did, it's pronounced en hi pen (kinda) and not with the actual pronunciation of hyphen, for a better explanation, you can hear them say it when they introduce themselves and pls dont get me wrong i dont wanna be annoying again, just wanted to say it in case no one else did
So right now at this one anyone as an Engene can't b0ycott the tour cz it's Enhypen who prepared the tour,they participated in production of the concerts and they clearly stated ENGENES TO LOOK FORWARD TO IT!
if we really want Enhypen to get out of this overwhelming schedules,we need to make sure that Belift won't add plus plus plus into their schedules means the FATE PLUS like new tours dates,only then it'll be alright,cz before Enhypen went on Manifesto tour and they were really happy about it,the problem that created a problem was Fate plus not fate tour,if fate plus wasn't there,no problem would've occured,so we need to make sure that belift don't add any extended,cz Walk the line was prepared way before than we're thinking !
Even then it's foolish to keep funding their exploitation. Just because enhypen worked on this one themselves (a while back before they were thrown into fate plus and before they were as overworked as they are now) doesn't mean it's morally right to go. If we REALLY want enhypen to rest, the only good way to talk to a money hungry company such as belift/hybe is to take the money part out of the equation. They won't listen to our pleas without the removal of monetary support. It may upset enhypen a bit, but really what's the better option here? Short term disappointment or long term injuries that make them unable to perform and do their job? We can still express our love for enhypen without supporting the company, and boycotting the tour is probably one of the more effective ways to convey that.
They are going to end up like Justin Bieber and Jungkook
@@Moonlightditto what happened to Jungkook….….he worked his ass off and became exactly what he wanted to…a world superstar! Once you get to the level of BTS by not resting, although after 6 years, they did get a month off….they make their own promotional schedules!
Enhypen knew what they were getting themselves into! If you want to be on top, you cNt take e tender breaks till you get there, because someone else will take your place in a heartbeat! And you may not get their momentum back! They need to win some big Dasengs for a couple of year and when they do. They will not be easily forgotten!
17:57 what happened 😶
@@arlo.77 LOONA’s company was mistreating them by overworking them, giving them unfair treatment, and withholding paying them. So the fans boycotted all of the members activities, causing the company to put them on hiatus indefinitely. After the unfair removal of one of their members, the rest filed lawsuits against the company eventually winning and terminating their contracts. But now the group no longer has their name and all the members had to separate. Some of the members rejoined new companies as a group together, while others went solo or decided not to continue in the industry. There are sooo many cases like this in Kpop. It’s extremely sad.
@@luna_n0va damn so even the boycotting is not really a good option ☹️
@@arlo.77 In my opinion, it was a good option. If the fans would’ve continued supporting their schedules, they probably would still be stuck under those horrible contracts and conditions without change.
it's just companies are money hungry. txt, svt, and enha are all having back to back tours every year I guess.
@@nonamenosurname6127 so did BTS….and BTS will continue to do so when they return from the military! You think BTS got to where they did by not touring! I saw them in 2017, then in fall of 2018, spring of 2019, winter in 2019 and has tickets to spring of 2020…..K-Pop works hard and they all know it going into it! Only 5 out of 100 groups a year will have a second year. 2 or 3 might make it to 5 years! 1 in 50 might make it longer than 8! 1 in a hundred might make it into the world stage for longer than 10 years! Give me one group other than BTS that has been around longer than 10 years and can still sell out full stadiums! I’ll wait…..
@@Kai-el7rw 😂😂 lol you always find army that successfully insert bts into a discussion that they are not involved in. Sorry, but your fandom really wants to be involved in everything.
Okay, if you read my comment I mentioned the groups that are touring this year and a previous year so, obviously bts is not topic of discussion here.
And do not bring me baseless statistics, it's hybe we are talking about billion dollar corporate, their groups do not have to worry about surviving to 3rd year of contract or 5th year, groups from mid or small companies fight for survival not groups of big 4 as long as company does not give up on them.
Also, bts is not going on tour any time soon, so do not run around on internet yelling they are gonna sell out stadiums being 10+ year old group. Let them sell out first then we'll have a conversation.
Whole point of discussion was mental and physical health of idols from what I understood you seem not to understand it. Overworking is never good for everyone. I'm against it and I expressed it with example of groups touring back to back last couple of years.
@@nonamenosurname6127 I guess we shall see!
I saw Enhypen they were great! They couldn’t fill a stadium an 85000 seat stadium yet, but I believe they will!
The topic was they are over worked and need a rest! My point is…see what happens to them if they take time off!
They all know what they signed up for! And I’m not talking about small entertainment companies…I’m talking the top 3 back in the day…so name me one group that is still relevant today that debuted 12 years ago with all its members still in the group! Where is EXO, or NCT….these were groups from multi million dollar companies!
We’ll see I’d TXT resigns, since they are so over worked! Or Enhypen…also apparently abused and so overworked! This is the career they want…they need to work for it! End of story!
BTS will be whole in less than 9 months! We’ll see how your prediction pans out! And no…they don’t need to put out hard choreo on every song, but there are lots of older groups that still do!
They are really overworked but hybe and bh in the past did the same to txt and bts. So, its not unique case. I guess, hybe tries to drain their mgs before the enlistment or before the date of resigning new contracts. Its conveyer after all. New toys broke, replave them with the new ones. Txt will have brother bh mg pretty soon, so for hybe their prime time as a group is over. So, enha has 1,5-2 years before they will have their brother group in belift.
Btw, I think enha earn money for illit too.
@@Лена-р6я3и but TXT and BTS are not broken
@@caseylevy687 for now, but such merciless expluatation will end their health pretty soon. Bts were in their prime time in 2018 but were so tired and pressed by endless work and responsibilities that they burnt out physically and mentally and discussed the disbandment.
jay went on live the other day saying “Please look forward to what a tour created by Enhypen looks like.” He knows engenes are trying to boycott but is speaking out against it
As much as I want to disagree and absolutely think the boys need and deserve rest, I do agree that they want us to participate in this tour. A lot of the new merch was designed with their input ( I mean the CLOTHING not the lightstick/band) which I know they have wanted to do for a long time, so I would love to support that. The comeback in November THANKFULLY is a repackage. One can only hope that means minimal new choreography, and that the promotion is rolled in to some of these award shows where they perform old favorites and introduce one maybe two new songs-- and not in the same performance at that-- so that things are more balanced. I think it is unrealistic for them to cancel everything that is planned, but modifying it so that performances serve double duty like what I just mentioned, is not a bad plan. Also, since the comeback is a repackage, one could hope that the new song(s) are already created/recorded when they did romance:untold and just not released until now. These would be sensible ( not to mention MONEY SAVING) tactics that hopefully is what is going on so that our boys get some rest and be:Lift (and the boys) get the $$$ be: lift is so
trying to maximize.
Unfortunately I think that's looking into it a bit too deep. They have said this for years.
Fans dont listen. Enpyhen planned most of their new tour. Enpyhen can speak for themselves.
Not exactly. You do realize the companies have this manipulative almost monopolistic grasp on the idols, correct? Even if they aren't directly being held to "if you say this you're fired" they're still more than likely being brainwashed and manipulated. Additionally, not just enhypen but every artist under a company is monitored, including what they say online. If they just come out against the company they could land themselves out of a job or into hiatus easily, but if that doesn't happen, direct mistreatment from the company (as shown with NewJeans after their burner livestream). So no, enhypen cannot speak for themselves entirely without crucial consequences to their careers. Sure, enhypen worked on this tour, but keep in mind this tour was planned a WHILE ago, when they weren't so overwhelmed with work. This video has some excellent points, so if you truly do love enhypen, it would be in your best interest to take what this video has to say to heart, and apply it.
As a BTS ARMY, I’ll just say, if they want to get to BTS level, they will as hard as BTS did! BTS took the wire first break in 2019! 6 years after debut! I’ve seen Enhypen live, enjoyed their concert, but this is K-Pop! If they want a long career, while they are young they will work their asses off! They can rest when they go to the military!
I’m an ARMY as well. And yes BTS’ did work hard, but let’s not normalize their insane schedules. When BTS came out, Kpop was at an entirely different state than it is now. Kpop groups should not have to overwork themselves to have a successful career. Overworking does not equal working hard. And actually if they want to have a long career, they have to take care of themselves. That’s how you have longevity. Your future is nothing without your health. And do you really think BTS worked this hard, for idols after them to continue to be mistreated and overworked?
@@luna_n0va I think they are being treated better than BTS was. Never have they lived in a 1 bedroom apartment! TXT and Enhypen both had star power from the start because they followed in BTS footsteps and were stars at debut! Working hard is part of the industry! They are choosing this career! I don’t know how long you have been ARMY, but they were not stars until 4 years after debut! If they think they are mistreated, they can quit! I don’t think you will see them doing that. They are living pretty good lives!
@@Kai-el7rw I’ve been an army for a very long time now, but even if I hadn’t been why should that matter? I know what they’ve been through. And even when they started to gain popularity they were still being overworked after that. And BTS actually said that they wanted to disband because of the pressure the industry put on them. They’ve even talked about how badly they were overworked and how it got to them. You do realize that just because ENHYPEN are in a better living arrangement and under a bigger company doesn’t mean they’re not still being mistreated and overworked right? And actually TXT had a very rough start and so did ENHYPEN. All idols experiences are different. No one’s trauma is greater than the other just because it comes in a different package. And saying that a group should just quit, instead of talking about how the company who is doing this to them should change. Try having some empathy and understanding, that no one should have to go through what these idols are put through everyday. It’s not normal and just because this is how it’s always been or this is how Kpop is run, doesn’t make it right. Things can and should change.
@@luna_n0va TXT were Rookie of the Year in all music competitions without first album, which was actually not that great! They have come into their own now. Enhypen had a better first album! Neither group struggle to the top in anyway!
BTS thought about disbanding because they were tired…but they signed a new contract 2 years early, so they were dedicated to their fanbase!
I have never heard Enhypen complain about work! Maybe RXT, but not Enhypen!
This is KPop…if you don’t work hard and everyday, you fall into obscurity in the first 5 years! If either group can do what BTS gave their blood sweat and tears for, they will get solo careers that are just as big as BTS members solo careers!
They work till they collapse, because that is the industry! Everyone wants to be the next BTS but there never will be a next BTS because they have not had to suffer through the near failure part of the industry! Both groups were huge after their first albums because they were riding on the coattails of BTS!
Hobi was coaching them in dance, RM and Yoongi were writing them songs and other members were helping with stage presence! And in top of that, BTS were still doing their own stuff!
I’m just sorry, if they want the same success as BTS they need to live like they are in poverty in the first few years and struggle! They gave NOT had to do that! So even though they work very hard, they will never have worked as hard as the group that paved their way to stardom!
I like both groups, have all their music, support then, paid to go see them in concert, but at this point in their careers they are no where near where BTS was at the same point because they never had to make an album in a garage or borrow a mangers vehicle to make a video!
Everyone needs to stop complaining on how hard they work! BTS put out 3 albums in 1 year! I saw them in the fall of 2017c the fall of 2018, the spring in 2019 and the winter in 2019! They did a live concert twice during COVID, then I saw the twice in their 4 night shows at the end of 2021 and twice in their spring of 2022! Where was RXT and Enhypen? They weren’t doing that many concerts!
So please…quit complaining about how hard the company is on them! They are all millionaires at this point..3 years into their careers! I don’t feel sorry for them! They deserve the money, because they do work hard!
@@Kai-el7rw
1. Bts and Enhypen are two completely different groups that have two very different backgrounds (bts debuted under a poor unknown company and enhypen under a rich famous one, bts were "regular" trainees while enhypen were on a survival show etc). So why are you even comparing them?
2. You're very wrong in the "Never have they lived in a 1 bedroom apartment", because all of the enhypen members literally did share one bedroom. It wasn't until recently that they moved to a new dorm where they don't have to share bedrooms any longer
3. "If they think they are mistreated, they can quit". This is their dream. If you think the solution to a group being mistreated by a company is for the group to disband, you're crazy because the problem here is the greedy companies
4. You listing all the bts concerts/performances you saw during 2017-2022 and then going "Where was Enhypen?" is so weird. Enhypen didn't even debut until the end of 2020! It was covid so they couldn't do any live shows but they did plenty of online performances and concerts. Once the pandemic ended, they started touring in mid 2022 and have been touring since. Yeah bts had a hectic touring schedule but at least they always got like 6-10 months in between their tours, Enhypen got ONE month after finishing their 400+ day long "fate tour"... Don't you realize how insane that schedule is? And next month Enhypen will release their 3rd album of 2024, so they too release a lot of albums while touring, traveling back and forth from different countries.
5. And yeah enhypen might not complain that often because they don't want to worry fans or seem ungrateful. But that doesn't mean that they aren't struggling. Enhypen have been very vocal actually about how tired, mentally and physically, they are. For over a year Jay has had an injured knee and it's not getting any better because he's constantly performing. Members fainting, constantly getting mobbed, their personal information being leaked, d3ath thr3ats etc. Debuting under a rich company doesn't magically make these issues disappear you know, and them earinng a lot of money doesn't make these things any less problematic. A few months ago during an interview they were asked what their biggest wish was to do after their "fate tour" ended, and they all quickly answered that they wanted to have a proper break, a vacation without any cameras. Instead they were instantly sent on another world tour.
6. You think BTS would like seeing you using their hardships to justify their juniors getting mistreated and overworked? There's a reason BTS has decided to be more open about what a hard time they went through earlier in their career, to spread awareness on how inhumane and hectic this industry is. And you don't seem like you've been listening to anything Yoongi have been saying in the past years, about how he wants his juniors to work in better conditions. Have you ever listened to his song "Snooze" which he wrote for his juniors, the lyrics are literally: "It's okay to feel overwhelmed, if it's too much for you, you can take a little rest" and "Don't suffer like I did"
This is a confabulation for Engenes not to support ENHYPEN. ENHYPEN is getting too big and people are scare. They are born to be BIG STARS.
do you care more about their health or about their popularity.
They are big stars, that is correct, but you have to realize that they are STILL human. They have physical limits just like we do, they have nutritional, mental, and physical needs as much as we do, and those needs and limits have been continuously pushed by their company. If you are truly a engene, you'd advocate for their rest.