I live in Australia and have a 21 model. It's been a great bike for price and I can still hang in the Twistys with the bigger boys , I commute on mine and never let me down. This big is good for new to intermediate rider . Good review mate .
I'm in Australia and have a 2021 bike. Love it. It does everything you want and is 40% cheaper than Japanese bikes. The only downside will be resale of them second. hand.
Just subbed. This is really good content. Hope your channel gets popular. I really liked the way you presented everything on the bike and showed all the features.
The rear shock is adjustable for rebound, you can see the C spanner adjuster on the top of the shock in your video. No adjustment for the front suspension. Here in the Philippines, this is far and away the cheapest 650 you can get. The only thing that lets it down is the lack of dealerships outside of Luzon, or Cebu. But that is now improving.
I think it’s a decent bike and it looks great and the tech is amazing. Buy one you won’t regret it. 2 year warranty. The parts take about 1-2 months to get but that’s not bad considering our shipping ordeal nowadays. The seat is nice I do t know what he’s talking about. It’s comfortable and it’s a quality bike no matter if it’s made in china who care as long as it hold up over time. Truth is there no history for these things though so you have to bite the bullet. My yahama/honda dealer says he sellls more of these than all the rest of the bikes combined. That’s says something. Be safe and ride on!!
great comprehensive review man, you covered almost all my questions. i'm looking to buy one of this as my first bike actually. one question i have: how precise was the gearbox? I mean did you feel any noticeable difference at different RPMs when you tried to upshift or downshift? and also. did you try to shift clutchless? Thanks from Romania!
I didn't have any problems with the 650nk gearbox. It wasn't the best but it wasn't as bad as my MT09. I'd say it's only going to improve with wear. I never had a problem finding neutral. I didn't feel anything harsh or get difficult at any other rpm. I moved the shifter right away to a more comfortable position for my foot. The shifter was too high at first and I was having to bring my foot up too high to downshift. I immediately changed that and it felt good ever since.
@@bogdantudor7195 i only just got mine,love it,the gearbox is smooth shift and the slipper clutch does a great job too,only gripe i had was the suspension is quite stiff...other than that everything is awesome
I bought one about a month ago. It’s been good. The app sucks though. The clock always resets itself every time you turn it off for some reason. Overall it’s been fun riding it.
@@hoagiemoto the app has no issue for me, my bike (300NK) does reset the time every time though. That I have a quadlock so my phone is there if I really need the time. The app is really accurate for the tracking and all the notifications you can set up is nice.
I know how to drive manual I've never riden any type of motorcycle besides as a backpack during childhood. For the most part I'm very confident I can just pick it right up and be comfortable in a matter of two weeks. I'm 6ft on a good day and weigh 270 would this bike be good for me? I wanted a gsxr and even tho ive seen fat guys on them before i wonder if all the leaning that this would suit my body type more.
My local dealer doesn’t do any test rides so not gonna buy something I can’t test. Where were you able to test one of these state city etc… might fly out and take a mini vacation just to test one and enjoy some time off.
Well that’s good to hear because they’re not can I find one in Nevada there’s apparently dealerships that deal in CF Moto, but they they don’t have the motorcycles at all. They convey to me that it could be a month or two down the road when somebody’s looking with cash in their hand, that is a stupid thing to do The best thing they could possibly do to enhance and better their business because nobody knows if the bike is good or not, I mean I’m watching videos, but I’m also seeing videos that I do understand because most of them are in other languages, which is a delay in appropriate but the ones that are in English that I do understand or people that have a few miles on their bikes that’s it that is really turned especially when you’ve walked into multiple places that are supposed to carry them, but don’t have them because the manufacture is not sent them out that is a good way for a dealership to lose and also affect manufacturing people want to bike now, so they can ride later not get a bike later or not ride get a clue parts gotta be in the stores gotta have decent videos here in the United States. Once that people can understand that or not in other languages. remember, you’re in the United States
That is a lot on this suspension. If there were optional springs out to stiffen up the suspension it would probably be fine but I don't know anyone that makes any. We sold all of our 650 models
It's in the market in my country Philippines for a couple of years now and people have little to no complain on them and parts are cheaper than Japanese bikes
I havn't had any issues. I'd also agree with the average gearbox comment. I never have a problem finding neutral and never had one misshift or find a false neutral
How would you say it handles for long trips? I am looking to get a first bike and I’m leaning towards this one or the z650 so I really want the better for long trips every day.
Faired bikes on long trips not good on the wrist or back,this bike will be perfect because its got the power to go on highways easily and you sit upright all day without hunching forward and to fix that wind blast theres plenty of universal aftermarket screens to fit onto the bike.
O these bikes sales are gonna suffer because of anti China feelings. Other than that people who like bikes and want just bikes will realize their value and snag em up.
7 grand is way to much considering you can get second hand bikes with less that 8k miles on them from the big 3 for the same price that have twice the reliability/proven fit and finish and performance. Right now the only reason to buy one of these bikes is because you just want too. i literally see no other reason to buy one
Here is a like and comment because you gave us info in liters and kilograms as well. Great job!
I live in Australia and have a 21 model. It's been a great bike for price and I can still hang in the Twistys with the bigger boys , I commute on mine and never let me down. This big is good for new to intermediate rider . Good review mate .
Finally a US review that answers all my questions about the 650nk, great video man keep up the great work
I'm in Australia and have a 2021 bike. Love it. It does everything you want and is 40% cheaper than Japanese bikes. The only downside will be resale of them second. hand.
@@ElCoco1984 56 hp is pretty reliable and enough for me
Just subbed. This is really good content. Hope your channel gets popular. I really liked the way you presented everything on the bike and showed all the features.
Thank you!
One of the best videos ive on this bike, its only $4,000 where im at before taxes yeah I'm getting it.
Where? 4k new? For a 650? Or the 450?
Think i may purchase one of these next spring. Fist street bike, itll be used for weekend cruises with my dad
The rear shock is adjustable for rebound, you can see the C spanner adjuster on the top of the shock in your video. No adjustment for the front suspension. Here in the Philippines, this is far and away the cheapest 650 you can get. The only thing that lets it down is the lack of dealerships outside of Luzon, or Cebu. But that is now improving.
I think it’s a decent bike and it looks great and the tech is amazing. Buy one you won’t regret it. 2 year warranty. The parts take about 1-2 months to get but that’s not bad considering our shipping ordeal nowadays. The seat is nice I do t know what he’s talking about. It’s comfortable and it’s a quality bike no matter if it’s made in china who care as long as it hold up over time. Truth is there no history for these things though so you have to bite the bullet. My yahama/honda dealer says he sellls more of these than all the rest of the bikes combined. That’s says something. Be safe and ride on!!
thank you for the overview from germany :)
Thank you!
Great review man
great comprehensive review man, you covered almost all my questions. i'm looking to buy one of this as my first bike actually. one question i have: how precise was the gearbox? I mean did you feel any noticeable difference at different RPMs when you tried to upshift or downshift? and also. did you try to shift clutchless? Thanks from Romania!
I didn't have any problems with the 650nk gearbox. It wasn't the best but it wasn't as bad as my MT09. I'd say it's only going to improve with wear. I never had a problem finding neutral. I didn't feel anything harsh or get difficult at any other rpm. I moved the shifter right away to a more comfortable position for my foot. The shifter was too high at first and I was having to bring my foot up too high to downshift. I immediately changed that and it felt good ever since.
Also you can shift clutchless if you desire but it's so ingrained into me to pull the clutch in slightly that I rarely do it
@@hoagiemoto yeah i bought it anyways and so far after a week it feels really good for its price. Cheers mate!
@@bogdantudor7195 i only just got mine,love it,the gearbox is smooth shift and the slipper clutch does a great job too,only gripe i had was the suspension is quite stiff...other than that everything is awesome
How are you guys liking your 650nks now that it’s been a few months? Just picked one up last week and have been loving it
Hey Big Dog, please give cf Moto clx 700 sport a ride please
Excellent video, it seems to me a copy of the Z650.
Z650 (X) ER-6N (O)
Thanks for the review. I like this bike, but your review on the 650 MT might have steered me towards that bike.
Mustard bikes in Tasmania make fender eliminators for both the NK & MT models🇦🇺
Thank you, that is very helpful!
@@hoagiemoto no problem!
I bought one about a month ago. It’s been good. The app sucks though. The clock always resets itself every time you turn it off for some reason. Overall it’s been fun riding it.
I thought that was only happening to the demo bikes. If I get to talk to the cfmoto rep I will bring it up!
@@hoagiemoto the app has no issue for me, my bike (300NK) does reset the time every time though. That I have a quadlock so my phone is there if I really need the time. The app is really accurate for the tracking and all the notifications you can set up is nice.
I know how to drive manual I've never riden any type of motorcycle besides as a backpack during childhood. For the most part I'm very confident I can just pick it right up and be comfortable in a matter of two weeks. I'm 6ft on a good day and weigh 270 would this bike be good for me?
I wanted a gsxr and even tho ive seen fat guys on them before i wonder if all the leaning that this would suit my body type more.
this would suit you better with the more upright seating position.
My local dealer doesn’t do any test rides so not gonna buy something I can’t test. Where were you able to test one of these state city etc… might fly out and take a mini vacation just to test one and enjoy some time off.
Well that’s good to hear because they’re not can I find one in Nevada there’s apparently dealerships that deal in CF Moto, but they they don’t have the motorcycles at all. They convey to me that it could be a month or two down the road when somebody’s looking with cash in their hand, that is a stupid thing to do The best thing they could possibly do to enhance and better their business because nobody knows if the bike is good or not, I mean I’m watching videos, but I’m also seeing videos that I do understand because most of them are in other languages, which is a delay in appropriate but the ones that are in English that I do understand or people that have a few miles on their bikes that’s it that is really turned especially when you’ve walked into multiple places that are supposed to carry them, but don’t have them because the manufacture is not sent them out that is a good way for a dealership to lose and also affect manufacturing people want to bike now, so they can ride later not get a bike later or not ride get a clue parts gotta be in the stores gotta have decent videos here in the United States. Once that people can understand that or not in other languages. remember, you’re in the United States
454 pounds is a lot for a 650. These bikes have huge msrp discounts right now. I guess dealers didn’t sell many?
That is a lot on this suspension. If there were optional springs out to stiffen up the suspension it would probably be fine but I don't know anyone that makes any. We sold all of our 650 models
How fast is it compared to a 650cc Japanese sport bike?
Hi hoagie. Good reviews. CF Moto, what's the reliability been like in general?
It's in the market in my country Philippines for a couple of years now and people have little to no complain on them and parts are cheaper than Japanese bikes
@@albertalonto9571 hope you're right. Bought a 700 Sport
Where can I order parts I can’t find anything in the states for a 22
Hello my man, is it good for begginers? For first bike ?
Yea. Great choice. Maybe put it in eco mode at first.
How smooth is the gear changing? Heard they are clunky.
Early models were clunky but the newer ones not so much. They're average gearboxes for the current time - not bad but not great.
I prefer the early boxes as you could hear each gear click
I havn't had any issues. I'd also agree with the average gearbox comment. I never have a problem finding neutral and never had one misshift or find a false neutral
Thanks !
are the led headlights on the '22 models still really bad or have they made them heaps better now?
I ride this exact bike and they are incredibly bright at night wish it was just a little bit wider but I have 0 complaints
How would you say it handles for long trips? I am looking to get a first bike and I’m leaning towards this one or the z650 so I really want the better for long trips every day.
How long of a trip?
They'll both be the same, windy naked bikes. Get a faired bike mate
Faired bikes on long trips not good on the wrist or back,this bike will be perfect because its got the power to go on highways easily and you sit upright all day without hunching forward and to fix that wind blast theres plenty of universal aftermarket screens to fit onto the bike.
Does the 650nk have cruise control like the 700cl-X?
No, unfortunately only the 700's come with cruise control
The warranty starts from when u buy it?
Yes
Do you still have the bike? How’s it doing?
I don't but I have a couple customers who own them and really enjoy them
Seat too hard? One of the softest seats I sat on.
How tall are you? I’m 6 3 so hoping the ergo works and doesn’t feel to small
I'm 6ft tall
@@hoagiemoto I went and test rode the 300, this, and the 700. This is my favorite, money down, gonna go get it!
@@AlterationProductionhopefully you enjoy it as much as I do! I’m 6’4 and it’s incredibly comfy for me
What kind of top speeds in mph are you getting out of this?
I've been meaning to take it out again to see what kind of top speeds I can get. I will get back to you when I get a chance to rip some long straights
I search and find top speed around 185- 195 km/h depend of weather.
O these bikes sales are gonna suffer because of anti China feelings. Other than that people who like bikes and want just bikes will realize their value and snag em up.
Appears you dont believe in safe gear?
7 grand is way to much considering you can get second hand bikes with less that 8k miles on them from the big 3 for the same price that have twice the reliability/proven fit and finish and performance. Right now the only reason to buy one of these bikes is because you just want too. i literally see no other reason to buy one
Sounds he needs a bigger bike
VERY BAD BUY. MANY PROBLEMS. NO PARTS
Which problems? Must explain. Tnx.