The important thing about PTM7950 is its durability. It's as durable as the old Innovation Cooling graphite pads, while performing much better than them. While it's not as good as liquid metal directly, it's safer and you don't have to deal with temp degradation from too much gallium being absorbed into copper, causing hotspots (this is a problem whenever you have a heatsink without high PSI mounting pressure, and copper rather than nickel plated copper).
I just used this stuff on my laptop to replace the liquid metal and im shocked at how much better is it. 16c cooler on the cpu while gaming!!! iv never been impressed by any TIM before but this stuff is incredible. They should be using it on all laptops. Cleaning the liquid metal off was a nightmare and it was on the verge of leaking.
Honeywell PTM 7950 is not only good as absolute temps, but it also lasts much longer then the best thermal pastes. Using it since may, and (thanks also to winter) I'm confident I don't have to repaste my gaming laptop for 1 entire year for the first time. With any thermal paste you'll see temps degrading quickly even after a few weeks, very noticeable after 2-3 months. This doesn't happen with PTM 7950. You can even pass the AIDA64 stress test with fresh PTM (!!!).
@@Meanpooh Are you getting enough mounting pressure? Maybe the thermal pads on the VRMs are too thick, causing the heat sink to not make good contact with the CPU? I used some thick thermal paste on the VRMs when I did the last repaste, on the CPU & GPU I used Kyonaut. Got much better temps than the stock paste, but my Alienware M15 R2 is still thermal throttling since I can't undervolt anymore.
@@Meanpooh maybe there was a problem with application? Did you run it through some heat cycles to see if temps drops down? Repasting again might help as well.
Are you sure this is actual Honeywell and not a knock off? All official documentation I can find is that Honeywell is 0.25 thickness, not 0.2, and when I was looking for this I noticed all the knock offs would say "for Honeywell" and try to trick you. Also I've seen a few benchmarks and the .25 makes a difference, especially on a laptop.
amazon seller joyjoy is proven good product and they sell 0.2mm too. Most of them are rounding up to 0.25mm. As long as it's PTM, it doesn't matter if it's 0.2 or 0.25 , it melts
This the correction for the Honeywell side at 10:04-13:33. This will show the correct video. The video was muted in the timeline which caused the issue. Thanks to KT2 for pointing this out. ua-cam.com/video/HFBTBOaefD4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Meanpooh
I have an unlocked engineer sample of the Core i7 11800H which produces a lot of heat, the package temperature easily caught 90°C when using a desktop tower cooler pasted with Arctic MX-4 and the power limit is set to 70W in the Intel XTU. The mounting pressure is way higher than what a laptop cooler can archive and I'm cooling it directly to its die so it must be the paste that doesn't holds the challenge. Thank you for the benchmarks, I'm trying it.
Well, it's amazing, my package temperature at 70W dropped from thermal throttling 90-ish°C down to low 70-ish°C. But temps are terrible until the thermal pad melts and it takes some seconds for me.
Спасибо за информацию с 11800h. Так как обладатель такого же аппарата. Подскажи температуры за это время не изменились? С термопастами буквально через несколько дней температура ухудшается в меньшую сторону.
This machine didn't come with the standard thermal pads which are solid. I use K5 Pro for replacement. Never changed anything on the SSD's. I may one day try to use solid pads but it will be a pain as there are too many areas that are cramped with different heights.
As long as you did it properly and there wasn't too little applied, liquid metal is going to last just as long if not longer and be more effective. Ptm is just ultimate safe and ease of use.
@@Jakiyyyyyit needs to be applied multiple times over the period of few months for the copper heatsink to fully absorb. And after that it leaves marks on the heatsink and the dies. Ptm is a much more safe and efficient way.
@@JakiyyyyyOnly theoretically. In practice, it's too hard to apply perfectly and keep in perfect condition, so the face change will almost always outperform it.
I have an MSI GL66 I used PTM on, the cpu appears to have very low mounting pressure on the cpu, the PTM doesn't "Melt" like it did on the GPU, and the temps are worse. The GPU is actually Way cooler for me. Unsure if the other components near the cpu using thermal pads are holding the cooler up too high.
i feel the same on my msi gf63 .ptm temperature more high than original paste from msi . i think it is because my heatsink have thick thermal pad for vram that maybe affect the mounting pressure
@@syamshudafalahalquds9159 I ordered some thermal goop to replace the thermal pads. it should squish more than the original pads. I'm hoping this works because that 12700h gets HOT fast doing very little. I also cinebench quite a bit lower than where a 12700h should be. (before and after honeywell PTM)
@@SrtRacerBoy i change my ptm to thermal paste grizly kryonaut and the temp reduce before cpu 80 ° and gpu 70° when playing game after cpu 70° and gpu 60° 10° improvement with grizly kryounaut
any mm raise in pads from stock will cause low pressure while mounting, also screw in the heatsink in the appropriate order the screws should be numbered.@@SrtRacerBoy
Just got mine today and applied it, it's crazy how my temps (gpu) went from 86° with constant thermal throttling to around 74° drawing +12W more. And I don't need to replace it anytime soon!?
Some of my ptm7950 came off when I lifted up the plastic sheet. I stored them in the freezer for 10min before operation but it still came off, I needed to scrape the out then applied to the dies. Is there a better way to remove the plastic cover?
None that I know of. I've had this happen to me plenty of times forcing me to move to the next corner. I did have a situation to where all 4 corners have failed me and I had to resort to a sewing needle to separate the plastic, sorta like in the video. Freezing before using works pretty good as long as you can remove it quickly before it warms up.
What would you recommend on a Lenovo Gaming 3? I tried thermalright tfx but still pumps out. I heard this is the stock thermal pad for the laptop. Running 5600h and 3060. Thanks!
A friend repasted his 4090 with noctua nt-h1 and after around a month started seeing hotspot increase quite rapidly due to pump out, used ptm7950 and after almost 6 months it’s still performing the same as the day it was applied not to mention it’s a good 5-8c cooler than then the paste as well, I have some thermal videos on my channel with a 4090
The Kingpin looks good. It may perform better since it has a rating of 13.8 w/mk. This is more than the PTM7950 but so is Kryonaut. I may give it a try. Thanks for the heads up.👍
I didnt get the same temps are yours I tried to go to a service center and let them apply the thermal paste on my laptop ( ptm7950 ) , But all I am having is a much higher temp as hovering around 90 to 95, but before my temps is like 80 to 89 degrees. Does it take time to take effect when applied on the laptop?
For this machine it took just over a day for everything to work correctly. The thermals should return instantly but in my experience it varies. I repasted my Legion 5 Pro and it took almost 2 weeks before everyone normalized. I have a video showing that. Most machines will be different. I have heard of people having no luck and ending up buying a new heatsink with the thermal grease applied. Give it some time and see what happens.
10:04 I think you made an editting mistake here because both clips are identical and show the exact same values every time. Looks like you picked the wrong clip for the Honeywell! :D
I think the temps will be close with the liquid metal winning slightly. Here is a video with Silver King and Kryonaut using Far Cry 5 ua-cam.com/video/AXxN2vDhXPk/v-deo.html. There is not a large gap in temperatures between the two as there is in this video. Unfortunately I will not be applying liquid metal to anymore of my machines as it does start to eat away at the heatsink and stains the processors. I have tried to remove it 2 repastes later and the residue is still there.
@@Meanpooh Thanks! just ordered some from China, hope it arrives sometime next year. Haha! Will apply it to my Alienware m15 R2, currently thermal throttling since Dell updated the Bios, thereby disabling undervolting, even though I had turned all updates off. I'll keep you posted on the results.
Here lately, undervolting has been really bad. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've even reinstalled windows without ACC and it still gets crazy hot. The best option is to use Cool Thermal with Power Saver profile. What is Dell doing?
I put this on my CPU. i7 14700. What kind of "not doing much except running windows" temperature should I be looking for on this? I saw it was around 50 centigrade earlier today when moving some files. Later it was more like 42 centigrade. I'm sure it doesn't matter all that much as long as it's not overheating but somehow I thought it might be cooler. I do notice that the CPU is activating its boost and going above 5Ghz surprisingly often so maybe that's why.
Your temps are excellent. Dont worry about repasting or anything like that. If it gets bad, youll know it. It will completely shut down. Your CPU is designed to handle 100C, so you have nothing to worry about. When playing games you may see your temps increase to around 60C to upper 80's which is perfectly normal.
Great video man, I really appreciate it. What shipping service did you use when you ordered it? This site seems scammy and there's so many options to ship
Can you share with me the thermal paste or thermal pad or somethings like that so I can apply it to my Vram GPU. I used 0.5mm Thermal Pads but they were still a bit thick and caused my GPU heatsink to buckle.
I wanted to see something tested, what would happen if you don't fully tighten the cooler, let it warm and when it's liquid then you fully tighten the cooler, I wonder if it would improve further or ruin it... It might make the layer even thinner with even better temperatures.
After research I believe ptm7950 is awesome.... But I'd your opinion on k5 pro, ltt proved it to be good but almost every one else says it makes the ram temps worse, who do I trust?
I have no comment for RAM usage but it does work in places that are tight and very difficult to get the correct thickness using a solid thermal pad. It's worked well for me but if you can use a thermal pad, it will better as there is no mess. That's the worse part about K5Pro.
how difficult will it be to completely clean during service. The way it melted in Linus video, i think it will be stuck on the die/substrate and the capacitors around it.
Once its cooled it kinda goes back to solid-ish state and you can wipe it off no mess. It doesn't spread out a lot if you cut it to the cpu gpu die dimensions since it's already thin. Laptop users use this before the ltt vid talked about it. You'll mostly find user experiences and info in reddit. Also, linus melted it "WITH A TORCH" under a pc case plate... just to show how it changes phases...
I don't know. I'm puzzled as well. I made a few videos but only when I repasted again and changed the thermal pads did the temps come back down to almost stock. I feel as though the PTM has to adjust to the CPU surface. I know it sounds weird but that's what I experienced. As of now my machine is doing very good. Run some software that really pushes the CPU and GPU for a while then check the temps doing a normal routine. Give a few days of normal gaming. As for pump out, never experienced it with PTM. It's different. It will harden when not in use and become like traditional thermal grease when temps rise.
There's nothing stating there is a cure time that I could find but like mentioned before my machine got better over time. I guess that would indicate that it does take some time to work.
My CPU was designed for liquid metal so I think I should use it for it. The GPU came with some kind of thermal paste so I'm going to use this pad for it, thanks! Also I want to ask if I really should use liquid metal on the CPU as the plastic protective film around it has a few bubbles in it. I have a ROG STRIX G172L laptop and I have used it consistantly for a few years at high temps.
If you feel comfortable applying liquid metal then go for it. If you happen to get any of it on any part of the board where it does not belong, you may kill it. Be careful and take your time. If your temps are just barely breaking 90C I would not bother. Try cleaning the fans and using a laptop cooler since its been a few years.
Hey I hope you see my message. I have a gigabyte aorus laptop. Last week I tried thermal grizzly kyronaut thermal paste and the CPU temperature went up to 90 degrees, then I bought mx-6 and applied it twice, the result was the same. If I buy honeywell, will these problems be fixed? I noticed that every time I opened the laptop, the paste overflowed from the places I applied it to the edges.
A gaming laptop reaching 90C is not bad. It's not going to damage anything. I have an Alienware that reaches over 100C and runs flawless without throttling. Thing is a tank. There are things you can do to make sure the temps kinda stay under 90C with just a little bit of performance loss. make sure you are not applying too much thermal compound can cause it to squish out from the sides. Try to look for thermal compound that has a higher viscosity than the ones you have tried. It's not guaranteed that Honeywell will fix your problems. I have it on all my machines and the temps are low. All the videos I make have the Honeywell thermal compound added to the CPU and GPU. I did have trouble with my Legion 5 Pro. After applying it took a week or more for everything to stabilize. When the Honeywell compound is cool, its very dry. It becomes somewhat liquefied after its heated. Try using Throttlestop as well as a laptop cooler to assist with the repaste.
@@Meanpooh Thanks for your comment. It wasn't 90 degrees before. It's overheating right now, I think it's completely spilled out today, I can't touch my keyboard, the speaker is buzzing, and then it shuts down because of the heat. I want my old degrees back
I heard that Lenovo now uses Honeywell as well. You use honeywell but you do not fully guarantee it. I don't want to buy thermal paste other than the much talked about honeywell, I feel like my money is going to waste.
You should run your machine using Power saver to see if it still overheats and shuts down. There is something else going on besides the Thermal compound. Make sure all the thermal pads are replaced on the VRM's and other components. Honeywell should work. Its one of the best I have ever used. Just know that different machines have different results.
@@Meanpooh There was never any paste in the vrams. It sticks to the copper pipe with a pad similar to double-sided tape, but my graphics card temperature is normal and my processor is abnormal. As far as I know, the vrams belong to the graphics card.
Did you get the answer? How much do we need. It's hella costly at Moddiy alongwith shipment charges. I'm using ASUS VIVOBOOK PRO 16 OLED, i5-13500H rtx4050 laptop GPU.
I'm shocked how much hotter kryonaut is in your case. In my experience even standard Kryonaut has excellent thermal conductivity, not to mention Extreme version you're using. And it's only 55 watts, not 70-100 watts or something.
For GPU and CPU crystals you have to use thermal paste only. Thermal pads are made for other parts. Thermal paste fils microscopic gaps between the hitsinc and the crystal.
@@astrobeats3863exactly. This “pad” is phase-changing and fills those gaps on performance as the cpu heats up. Really impressive stuff. I know for a while now Lenovo actually ships their Legion laptops with this stuff already, on top of their active cooling solution. Pretty sure some other performance laptops do the same.
If your desktop needs repasting then any paste will work. How good is a different story. You will most likely get better results on a desktop because of airflow.
The important thing about PTM7950 is its durability. It's as durable as the old Innovation Cooling graphite pads, while performing much better than them. While it's not as good as liquid metal directly, it's safer and you don't have to deal with temp degradation from too much gallium being absorbed into copper, causing hotspots (this is a problem whenever you have a heatsink without high PSI mounting pressure, and copper rather than nickel plated copper).
how long i have to repaste laptop with ptm7950? 1 year?
@@JoseAlves-nr9xt you dont need repast ptm... Maybe 6 years
@@JoseAlves-nr9xt Unless you plan on owning a laptop for more then 10 years, you basically never need to repaste it
It is as good as liquid metal in most applications. Better in practice when you consider application consistency, not to mention safety.
I just used this stuff on my laptop to replace the liquid metal and im shocked at how much better is it. 16c cooler on the cpu while gaming!!! iv never been impressed by any TIM before but this stuff is incredible. They should be using it on all laptops. Cleaning the liquid metal off was a nightmare and it was on the verge of leaking.
Lenovo started to use it on all their laptops.
@@KnurdMonkey not the 9i legion thats liquid cooled, or does it use pads too?
@@positronikisson the cpu and gpu die is honeywell. The liquid is just marketing ads for vapor chambor heatsink usage
@@KnurdMonkeyyep lenovo been using this on all their legion for quiet sometime already
Honeywell PTM 7950 is not only good as absolute temps, but it also lasts much longer then the best thermal pastes. Using it since may, and (thanks also to winter) I'm confident I don't have to repaste my gaming laptop for 1 entire year for the first time.
With any thermal paste you'll see temps degrading quickly even after a few weeks, very noticeable after 2-3 months. This doesn't happen with PTM 7950.
You can even pass the AIDA64 stress test with fresh PTM (!!!).
Thanks for sharing
I also use more than 1 year in my msi laptop - no degradation!
Do you know where I can buy it that is of good quality?
@@joesv6897 www.ebuy7.com/index.php?route...
it actually will last for lifetime
Very good and informative video. One thing missing is I think chapters on the video, that's be even very useful
They PTM stands for phase change thermal material. It will improve over several heat cycles.
Phase Tchange Material.
Очень полезное видео, заказал себе данный термоинтерфейс, благодарю вас за такой контент. thanks al ot!
Добро пожаловать и спасибо за просмотр. Обязательно отсоедините аккумулятор и примите надлежащие меры предосторожности при работе с машиной.
Bought mine off Amazon .2mm thickness but it works really well 🌞
bought this for my cpu because my temps were ass now they are so goood
Good Job.
helpful vid. also appreciate showing the size of pads so now I know which size to buy also for mine
Glad it was helpful! I have enough to do 9 more with the 80x80. Will be trying on the Alienware M15R3 (i7 10875H - 2070 s) which runs notoriously hot.
@@Meanpooh Cool! I'm curious to see those results!
I tried it and i'm puzzled as it made it worse by a few degrees. Just awful.
@@Meanpooh Are you getting enough mounting pressure? Maybe the thermal pads on the VRMs are too thick, causing the heat sink to not make good contact with the CPU?
I used some thick thermal paste on the VRMs when I did the last repaste, on the CPU & GPU I used Kyonaut. Got much better temps than the stock paste, but my Alienware M15 R2 is still thermal throttling since I can't undervolt anymore.
@@Meanpooh maybe there was a problem with application? Did you run it through some heat cycles to see if temps drops down? Repasting again might help as well.
Are you sure this is actual Honeywell and not a knock off? All official documentation I can find is that Honeywell is 0.25 thickness, not 0.2, and when I was looking for this I noticed all the knock offs would say "for Honeywell" and try to trick you. Also I've seen a few benchmarks and the .25 makes a difference, especially on a laptop.
Most likely fake product
amazon seller joyjoy is proven good product and they sell 0.2mm too. Most of them are rounding up to 0.25mm.
As long as it's PTM, it doesn't matter if it's 0.2 or 0.25 , it melts
the old brochure from 10/2019 moddiy still refers to said only 0.25mm, yeah, but the newer one from 08/2021 doesn´t have that remark for 7950 anymore.
@MeanPooh, Coming up on a year how is Honeywell holding up?
So far so good. Ive posted some videos but the latest was the F1 2023.
I got it as well
But still have no idea how to use the tools provided with it 😅
This the correction for the Honeywell side at 10:04-13:33. This will show the correct video. The video was muted in the timeline which caused the issue. Thanks to KT2 for pointing this out.
ua-cam.com/video/HFBTBOaefD4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Meanpooh
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How is the temperature now? Do they still holding up or started rising again?
temps decrease over time according to testig
Nah it's still thermal throttling for me without using my GT500@@1cecreampize197
How is PTM doing now?
Great video! Thanks! 👍👍👍
You're welcome!
I have an unlocked engineer sample of the Core i7 11800H which produces a lot of heat, the package temperature easily caught 90°C when using a desktop tower cooler pasted with Arctic MX-4 and the power limit is set to 70W in the Intel XTU.
The mounting pressure is way higher than what a laptop cooler can archive and I'm cooling it directly to its die so it must be the paste that doesn't holds the challenge.
Thank you for the benchmarks, I'm trying it.
Well, it's amazing, my package temperature at 70W dropped from thermal throttling 90-ish°C down to low 70-ish°C.
But temps are terrible until the thermal pad melts and it takes some seconds for me.
@@soyiago appreciate the update! Will try this on my 2020 Nitro 5
Same result here. On erying 0000 2.2 ES. With a stock cooler from 95 to 78. No throttle when gaming. But it does when running cinebench though.
Спасибо за информацию с 11800h. Так как обладатель такого же аппарата. Подскажи температуры за это время не изменились? С термопастами буквально через несколько дней температура ухудшается в меньшую сторону.
@@АртемКурдяев-щ9иЗдарова! Не пробовал прокладку ? Что скажешь как по температурам стало?
have you tried changing thermal pads for vrm, vrams, and SSD on your laptop?
This machine didn't come with the standard thermal pads which are solid. I use K5 Pro for replacement. Never changed anything on the SSD's. I may one day try to use solid pads but it will be a pain as there are too many areas that are cramped with different heights.
That's basically pointless. They don't throttle due to heat.
Wish I knew about this before I used liquid metal few years ago.
Is not liquid metal better?
As long as you did it properly and there wasn't too little applied, liquid metal is going to last just as long if not longer and be more effective. Ptm is just ultimate safe and ease of use.
@@Jakiyyyyyit needs to be applied multiple times over the period of few months for the copper heatsink to fully absorb. And after that it leaves marks on the heatsink and the dies. Ptm is a much more safe and efficient way.
@@ashryver3605lol, maybe on paper according to Reddit. This phase change pad almost always performs better.
@@JakiyyyyyOnly theoretically. In practice, it's too hard to apply perfectly and keep in perfect condition, so the face change will almost always outperform it.
I have an MSI GL66 I used PTM on, the cpu appears to have very low mounting pressure on the cpu, the PTM doesn't "Melt" like it did on the GPU, and the temps are worse.
The GPU is actually Way cooler for me. Unsure if the other components near the cpu using thermal pads are holding the cooler up too high.
i feel the same on my msi gf63 .ptm temperature more high than original paste from msi . i think it is because my heatsink have thick thermal pad for vram that maybe affect the mounting pressure
@@syamshudafalahalquds9159 I ordered some thermal goop to replace the thermal pads. it should squish more than the original pads. I'm hoping this works because that 12700h gets HOT fast doing very little.
I also cinebench quite a bit lower than where a 12700h should be. (before and after honeywell PTM)
@@SrtRacerBoy i change my ptm to thermal paste grizly kryonaut and the temp reduce
before cpu 80 ° and gpu 70° when playing game
after cpu 70° and gpu 60°
10° improvement with grizly kryounaut
@@syamshudafalahalquds9159 I tried Kryonaut already, it didn't made much of a difference from stock.
any mm raise in pads from stock will cause low pressure while mounting, also screw in the heatsink in the appropriate order the screws should be numbered.@@SrtRacerBoy
Just got mine today and applied it, it's crazy how my temps (gpu) went from 86° with constant thermal throttling to around 74° drawing +12W more. And I don't need to replace it anytime soon!?
You said u used K5 pro for the rest of the machine what do you mean with that?
hi! how many heat cycles for the thermal pad to work at its peak performance?
What are the thickness of the ptm 7950 pads applied here?
Some of my ptm7950 came off when I lifted up the plastic sheet. I stored them in the freezer for 10min before operation but it still came off, I needed to scrape the out then applied to the dies. Is there a better way to remove the plastic cover?
None that I know of. I've had this happen to me plenty of times forcing me to move to the next corner. I did have a situation to where all 4 corners have failed me and I had to resort to a sewing needle to separate the plastic, sorta like in the video. Freezing before using works pretty good as long as you can remove it quickly before it warms up.
Did you use Honeywell on the vram chips as well?
Hope he response this
No sir.
@@Meanpooh What did you use in them?
K5 Pro
@@Meanpooh Thanks
What would you recommend on a Lenovo Gaming 3? I tried thermalright tfx but still pumps out. I heard this is the stock thermal pad for the laptop. Running 5600h and 3060. Thanks!
PTM will not pump out. It almost solidifies when it get cold and then loosens up when the CPU gets hot. It's worth a try if all else has failed.
@@Meanpooh just got and applied ptm 7950. all is good so far. is it normal to still get 100 deg when playing marvels spiderman? the pad is a day old.
Try the UPSIREN PCM-1 next time.
And what about the lifespan of this thermopad? How long does such a thermopad last?
A friend repasted his 4090 with noctua nt-h1 and after around a month started seeing hotspot increase quite rapidly due to pump out, used ptm7950 and after almost 6 months it’s still performing the same as the day it was applied not to mention it’s a good 5-8c cooler than then the paste as well, I have some thermal videos on my channel with a 4090
Hey I'm curious how honeywell compared to Kingpin KPX thermal paste, I'm thinking using honeywell for my PC that using 5800X3D, what do you think?
The Kingpin looks good. It may perform better since it has a rating of 13.8 w/mk. This is more than the PTM7950 but so is Kryonaut. I may give it a try. Thanks for the heads up.👍
@@Meanpooh The rating doesn't tell much
For this cpu it is enought to use Mx4 or mx2... Its not bare die...
I didnt get the same temps are yours I tried to go to a service center and let them apply the thermal paste on my laptop ( ptm7950 ) , But all I am having is a much higher temp as hovering around 90 to 95, but before my temps is like 80 to 89 degrees. Does it take time to take effect when applied on the laptop?
For this machine it took just over a day for everything to work correctly. The thermals should return instantly but in my experience it varies. I repasted my Legion 5 Pro and it took almost 2 weeks before everyone normalized. I have a video showing that. Most machines will be different. I have heard of people having no luck and ending up buying a new heatsink with the thermal grease applied. Give it some time and see what happens.
Thickness matters too. Might need to stack the ptm
Fun fact - PTM7950 pad is only available with 0.25 thickness, if its 0.2 its most likely fake product.
Sucks to learn this after I bought it but the Temps aren't bad on my 5700x with a nhu12s cooler I get 78c max using 125w
Either that or the place you bought it from is simply rounding down and displaying to 1 decimal place.
The link in the describtion says 0.2mm
I'm pretty sure mine isn't fake as the temps are very much comparable with what i see on the internet. it is 0.2 mm and i ordered it from amazon
@@tyler6602 what's the temps before the ptm 7950?
I was wondering if it is electrically conductive?
When researching the product I did not find anything saying it was. There was no mention anywhere. IMO it's safe but take precautions as always.
silikon bazlı olduğunu biliyorum büyük ihtimalle conductive değil
im getting 76 degrees without gaming i need a repaste asap
10:04 I think you made an editting mistake here because both clips are identical and show the exact same values every time. Looks like you picked the wrong clip for the Honeywell! :D
Good catch. I went back in the timeline of my NLE and saw that the correct video was muted. Ill post a link for the correct video. Thanks.
Thanks! Great video. Have you done a comparison between this and Liquid metal?
No I have not but I have tried liquid metal on other laptops that I have posted.
@@Meanpooh Cool, you think there would be a big difference in temps between the 2 thermal compounds?
I think the temps will be close with the liquid metal winning slightly. Here is a video with Silver King and Kryonaut using Far Cry 5 ua-cam.com/video/AXxN2vDhXPk/v-deo.html. There is not a large gap in temperatures between the two as there is in this video. Unfortunately I will not be applying liquid metal to anymore of my machines as it does start to eat away at the heatsink and stains the processors. I have tried to remove it 2 repastes later and the residue is still there.
@@Meanpooh Thanks! just ordered some from China, hope it arrives sometime next year. Haha! Will apply it to my Alienware m15 R2, currently thermal throttling since Dell updated the Bios, thereby disabling undervolting, even though I had turned all updates off. I'll keep you posted on the results.
Here lately, undervolting has been really bad. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've even reinstalled windows without ACC and it still gets crazy hot. The best option is to use Cool Thermal with Power Saver profile. What is Dell doing?
recommending size for lenovo legion 5 ?
Hmm I guess I’ll have to repaste my L5P to find out. Hopefully the size will be similar to what you want.
@@Meanpooh thanks im still searching which one to order definitly wanna try it out
Hello my friend
Tell me how use it, they also applied to the radiator? I mean repaste both side CPU and heatsink?
Or enough only CPU and GPU?
Don’t put any on the heatsink . You only need 1 for CPU and 1 for GPU.
@@Meanpooh Thanks bro
@@Meanpooh so did you put K5 on capacitators and radiator then? or just PTM and thats it?
I put this on my CPU. i7 14700. What kind of "not doing much except running windows" temperature should I be looking for on this? I saw it was around 50 centigrade earlier today when moving some files. Later it was more like 42 centigrade.
I'm sure it doesn't matter all that much as long as it's not overheating but somehow I thought it might be cooler. I do notice that the CPU is activating its boost and going above 5Ghz surprisingly often so maybe that's why.
Your temps are excellent. Dont worry about repasting or anything like that. If it gets bad, youll know it. It will completely shut down. Your CPU is designed to handle 100C, so you have nothing to worry about. When playing games you may see your temps increase to around 60C to upper 80's which is perfectly normal.
I'm worried about getting scammed when purchasing
Do you have a link to where you bought it?
Link in description.
@@Meanpooh hah
Thanks. In the wise words of Forest Gump: I may not be a smart man....
Great video man, I really appreciate it. What shipping service did you use when you ordered it? This site seems scammy and there's so many options to ship
I tested the ebuy7 site it worked and they sent me the ptm
Hi, did you end up buying it? what shipping did you use? the "E-packet" one?
Amazing.
Can you share with me the thermal paste or thermal pad or somethings like that so I can apply it to my Vram GPU. I used 0.5mm Thermal Pads but they were still a bit thick and caused my GPU heatsink to buckle.
Just search up PTM 7950 and buy it.
Delivery is a killer tho. $25 to US
Not too bad. I paid 19.66 for the item and 5.07 shipping. Total 24.73
Is 2mm not too thick for the laptop heatsink, is does it just compress?
it phase-changes when its hot so doesnt really matter its why it needs to be kept cool when applying it otherwise it turns to goo
I wanted to see something tested, what would happen if you don't fully tighten the cooler, let it warm and when it's liquid then you fully tighten the cooler, I wonder if it would improve further or ruin it...
It might make the layer even thinner with even better temperatures.
No need to overcomplicate it. At best, won't make a difference.
Can you compare PTM7950 to Boron Nitride Paste?
No can do. You should read up on that.
No can do. You should read up on that.
@Meanpooh only downside I found online is electrically conductive while is wet so it should be cured to be non electrically conductive.
It's also extremely hard to remove from the processor
After research I believe ptm7950 is awesome.... But I'd your opinion on k5 pro, ltt proved it to be good but almost every one else says it makes the ram temps worse, who do I trust?
I have no comment for RAM usage but it does work in places that are tight and very difficult to get the correct thickness using a solid thermal pad. It's worked well for me but if you can use a thermal pad, it will better as there is no mess. That's the worse part about K5Pro.
@@Meanpooh good to know, I appreciate your response. 👍
Typed some alternatives for K5 but youtube says i'm scamming.
Another try: Upsiren U6 Pro, penchem TH949-1 or TH930
Is Honeywell better than all TG products? Is it the best on the market? I see that the difference is marginal in some respects but big in others.
Most marginal results don't allow it to heat cycle to spread and thin. This takes several sessions, maybe weeks.
@@VndNvwYvvSvv I'm aware that you have to do burn-ins to make sure it's really baked, but that isn't what I asked...
how difficult will it be to completely clean during service. The way it melted in Linus video, i think it will be stuck on the die/substrate and the capacitors around it.
Once its cooled it kinda goes back to solid-ish state and you can wipe it off no mess. It doesn't spread out a lot if you cut it to the cpu gpu die dimensions since it's already thin. Laptop users use this before the ltt vid talked about it. You'll mostly find user experiences and info in reddit.
Also, linus melted it "WITH A TORCH" under a pc case plate... just to show how it changes phases...
Can I just buy the one from the link? Not sure how many I should buy as well as I can only see the $2.65 one
why after i try it gets worse? I checked to open again the heatsink the paste ptm literally gone was like pump out
I don't know. I'm puzzled as well. I made a few videos but only when I repasted again and changed the thermal pads did the temps come back down to almost stock. I feel as though the PTM has to adjust to the CPU surface. I know it sounds weird but that's what I experienced. As of now my machine is doing very good. Run some software that really pushes the CPU and GPU for a while then check the temps doing a normal routine. Give a few days of normal gaming. As for pump out, never experienced it with PTM. It's different. It will harden when not in use and become like traditional thermal grease when temps rise.
@@Meanpooh is there an cure time or does it take effect immediately?
There's nothing stating there is a cure time that I could find but like mentioned before my machine got better over time. I guess that would indicate that it does take some time to work.
How difficult is to remove this after use? Like due to some service we need to reapply the pad.
Just like any other thermal grease. Alcohol wipes, paper towel it's easy.
My CPU was designed for liquid metal so I think I should use it for it. The GPU came with some kind of thermal paste so I'm going to use this pad for it, thanks! Also I want to ask if I really should use liquid metal on the CPU as the plastic protective film around it has a few bubbles in it. I have a ROG STRIX G172L laptop and I have used it consistantly for a few years at high temps.
If you feel comfortable applying liquid metal then go for it. If you happen to get any of it on any part of the board where it does not belong, you may kill it. Be careful and take your time. If your temps are just barely breaking 90C I would not bother. Try cleaning the fans and using a laptop cooler since its been a few years.
@@Meanpooh Thanks for the quick response and tips!
Did you equalize the PL1 and PL2 values? My CPU automatically switches to Power Throttle after 28 seconds.
No. Throttlestop was only used for the benchmark. No settings were used in the program.
Hey I hope you see my message. I have a gigabyte aorus laptop. Last week I tried thermal grizzly kyronaut thermal paste and the CPU temperature went up to 90 degrees, then I bought mx-6 and applied it twice, the result was the same. If I buy honeywell, will these problems be fixed? I noticed that every time I opened the laptop, the paste overflowed from the places I applied it to the edges.
A gaming laptop reaching 90C is not bad. It's not going to damage anything. I have an Alienware that reaches over 100C and runs flawless without throttling. Thing is a tank. There are things you can do to make sure the temps kinda stay under 90C with just a little bit of performance loss. make sure you are not applying too much thermal compound can cause it to squish out from the sides. Try to look for thermal compound that has a higher viscosity than the ones you have tried. It's not guaranteed that Honeywell will fix your problems. I have it on all my machines and the temps are low. All the videos I make have the Honeywell thermal compound added to the CPU and GPU. I did have trouble with my Legion 5 Pro. After applying it took a week or more for everything to stabilize. When the Honeywell compound is cool, its very dry. It becomes somewhat liquefied after its heated. Try using Throttlestop as well as a laptop cooler to assist with the repaste.
@@Meanpooh Thanks for your comment. It wasn't 90 degrees before. It's overheating right now, I think it's completely spilled out today, I can't touch my keyboard, the speaker is buzzing, and then it shuts down because of the heat. I want my old degrees back
I heard that Lenovo now uses Honeywell as well. You use honeywell but you do not fully guarantee it. I don't want to buy thermal paste other than the much talked about honeywell, I feel like my money is going to waste.
You should run your machine using Power saver to see if it still overheats and shuts down. There is something else going on besides the Thermal compound. Make sure all the thermal pads are replaced on the VRM's and other components. Honeywell should work. Its one of the best I have ever used. Just know that different machines have different results.
@@Meanpooh There was never any paste in the vrams. It sticks to the copper pipe with a pad similar to double-sided tape, but my graphics card temperature is normal and my processor is abnormal. As far as I know, the vrams belong to the graphics card.
how much should i get? is 40x40 enough or 40x80
Did you get the answer? How much do we need. It's hella costly at Moddiy alongwith shipment charges. I'm using ASUS VIVOBOOK PRO 16 OLED, i5-13500H rtx4050 laptop GPU.
I'm shocked how much hotter kryonaut is in your case. In my experience even standard Kryonaut has excellent thermal conductivity, not to mention Extreme version you're using. And it's only 55 watts, not 70-100 watts or something.
need to try XTM70, supposedly the best paste
Very strange for them not to list any specs of the thermal paste.
The real king is laird tpcm 7250
Four thickness: 0.125mm, 0.2 mm, 0.25mm, 0.4mm
(Tpcm 7125, Tpcm 7200, Tpcm 7250, Tpcm 7400
respectively) .
Tpcm 7250 is 0.25mm
For GPU and CPU crystals you have to use thermal paste only. Thermal pads are made for other parts. Thermal paste fils microscopic gaps between the hitsinc and the crystal.
The ptm 7950 becomes liquid at 45 degrees C
@@astrobeats3863exactly. This “pad” is phase-changing and fills those gaps on performance as the cpu heats up. Really impressive stuff.
I know for a while now Lenovo actually ships their Legion laptops with this stuff already, on top of their active cooling solution.
Pretty sure some other performance laptops do the same.
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No idea what kinda shitass paste u guys are using to get above 90c.
Even a shitty 1dollar themal paste wouldnt get my laptop over 75c full load.
is there sense in doing the same thing but for PC CPU?
If your desktop needs repasting then any paste will work. How good is a different story. You will most likely get better results on a desktop because of airflow.
nah not really, the pump out effect is not really present on a desktop CPU + desktop cpus have a ihs (integrated heat spreader).