Liz disgusts me here. At this point, Sam has gone through the grief of losing TWO children. Even if her son wasn't really dead, she believed he was and still suffered that pain. Liz knows what that feels like and to intentionally attempt to inflict that continued suffering on Sam is unconscionably cruel.
Jake isn't dead because Sam saw him get kidnapped. That was years later. Jake died cause she was wrapped in her own baby daddy drama (again) and wasn't paying attention. Sam screws up, royally, but she always owns up to it and pays for it, dearly, by St. Liz.
LIz will do anything to Sam to get Jason even lie about Sam's baby she is a horrid excuse for anyone but LIz wants Jason so bad she will do anything to get him.
Just want to say that I am so upset that Jason is so calm and understanding with Liz right now, especially when he blew up at Sam and threatened to kill her during the whole Jake thing....
Lff Smith Sorry lol I just had to get that in bc of the irony of it all & the fact that Liz is the only reason he forgave Sam who was only trying to keep him alive by not trying to stress him out if he found out Robin had died.
everytime i look at this video it makes me laugh that way of ''saint liz'' talks to him...why she cant get over jason?, when she really knows jason and sam belong together as a family :)
She's lying. I highly doubt that she did this to get revenge b/c of what Sam did FIVE YEARS AGO. She just wanted to keep Jason to herself and she is lying about her motivation to try and make it seem like she isn't as pathetic and vindictive as she always has been.
@5:46 she is still trying to hold over Sam's head that Jake was kidnapped? its not thst Sam took the child or hired someone to do it she watched apologized and risked her own life to save Jake so Liz needs to get over her obsession and move on Jason does not want her like that and maybe they shouldn't be friends if she can't handle being around him. because no matter what he and Sam are going through he is deeply in LOVE WITH SAM.
Glenda Smith ...Yes! And maybe if Liz & Jason TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT JAKE FROM THE BEGINNING, Sam might have NOT HAVE LOST HER MIND & MAYBE WOULD HAVE STOPPED the kidnapping from happening AT ALL!!! Liz's trying SOO HARD TO PUT what Sam DID behind her is BUNK!!! She only plays that card trying to get sympathy or to deflect from her OWN ACTIONS!!!
We think this is a great opportunity to go back in time to 2007 and analyzed Jason's reaction when he threatened and blackmailed Sam after finding out everything she did to Elizabeth and the kids. Back then, he was cruel, violent and relentless towards Sam. He showed her no mercy. Nevermind, that both Jason and Elizabeth were the ones that deceit, betrayed, broke trust, commitments and responsibilities while forcing everyone to live in a web of lies. That ultimately resulted in Sam's mental breakdown which ended up in her not being able to act accordingly to stop Jake's kidnapping and to stop herself from staging the attack in the Park. We are not excusing the behavior. We are presenting an explanation for it. Sam acted under duress. She was the victim of extenuating circumstances. The fact that she had been already blackmailed and threaten by Jason were enough reasons to put her under duress. Besides the fact that she was already suffering the devastation of everything that both Jason and Elizabeth had done to her. Simply put, Sam was not in her right mind. Now, in the case at had, Elizabeth chose with all the intention and treachery that those actions entailed to switch DNA results to keep Sam's baby away from her. We asked, how is that different than what Sam did back in 2007. Well, there is one big difference. Sam omitted to do something while Elizabeth actively did something. Elizabeth had the intention to cause harm and she was fully aware of what she was doing. She was not acting under duress. She was acting out of malice. The fact is that in Sam's case her omission regarding Jake's kidnapping although morally reprehensible was not illegal. However, Elizabeth's actions crossed the line at all levels legally and morally. Legally because she tampered with medical records. By doing what she did her actions are punishable by Law. Also, in reality Elizabeth's could be facing disciplinary action and most likely could lose her license. In terms of morality, her actions were totally reprehensible because she was trying to keep a mother from her child and worse she was trying to break a family. The truth of the matter was that Elizabeth was trying to keep Jason away from Sam and her baby because she didn't want Jason to be with Sam. How petty and childish could Elizabeth be? Well, obviously a lot. The problem with Elizabeth's situation was that she had no excuse for what she did because she was not acting under duress and there were no extenuating circumstances. Although, She tried to explain everything away by using Jake's death as an excuse but that was just a nonsensical selfish manipulative tactic. Only Elizabeth could think of using the death of her child to excuse her behavior, especially when that child has been dead for over a year and Sam had nothing to do with his death. Besides,Sam actually saved Jake's life from the Russians and Elizabeth said she would always be indebted to her. Furthermore, to say that Jake's life would have been different if Sam would have never done what she did, it's another lie and another manipulation. How Jake's life would have been different? When attacked by the Russians Sam protected Elizabeth and her kids. When Jake was kidnapped by the Russians Sam risked her own life to rescue him. And Jake's death had nothing to do with Sam. Actually, it had everything to do with the Spencer's. So, what happened to Elizabeth's gratitude, we don't know. What we know is that Elizabeth is not to be trusted. Nonetheless, what really bother us was Jason's reaction to Elizabeth's revelation. In 2007, Jason went as far as to threaten Sam's life and here Elizabeth did the same thing but not only that she tried to break his family with lies, manipulations and deception. And yet Jason's reaction was like nothing major happened. The hypocrisy and double standard was unbelievable and unacceptable. Not that we expected him to threaten her but we certainly expected him to show indignation and disappointment. The fact that he didn't show neither of those emotions was very disappointing. That was not the Jason we used to know. The Jason we were given in 2012 was definitely a rotten version of the beloved character that we have come to respect throughout the years. It was very sad that the writers decided to do such a disservice to the the character and the loyal GH Fans. We all deserved a lot better than what they did in 2012. Blessed be!
Excellent point I think this issue is how Jason loves Liz vs how he loves Sam. Liz is a fantasy, of what he could have had if he hadn’t had the accident or if he left his mob life style… Sam is his ideal for the life he actually has… she can handle his life style in ways that no other woman (save Carly aka Sonnys wife). Sam is tangible their love is tangible… and amazing because they fit so well … so they love each other hard…. And the person that is tangible hurts it’s worst than the person that you knew would never work out hurting you. That being said Jason is a jackass from the school of Sonny jackass-etry…
I think it's also Liz was what Jason wanted as his "safe place". He held Liz on that throne of she's so much better than I am, or even Carly, and Sam because she would never hurt anyone. He got an eye opener, not just because she wanted to hurt Sam but she wanted to hurt him. I think it made him think about A LOT of their situations and instead of wearing the rose colored glasses, he saw what everyone has told him about Liz and realized she's not his 'safe' place, or someone he can trust.
I agree with you. But I also think he didn't yell at Liz because he has never been passionate about her in anyway. I don't see Jason ever being able to muster up enough raw emotion to yell at her. The Liz/Jason dynamic is totally different from his other relationships (Robin, Carly, Courtney, & Sam). In each of his other relationships I knew and understood his desire to be with each of them. Jason and Liz are each other's comforters when things go wrong but they have no passion at all.
I love Jason. I love JaSam! But why didn’t he tear into Elizabeth like he tore into Sam, even threatened her if she ever messed with Jake and Elizabeth 😡 he didn’t even seem mad at her.😡😡
Becky's a great actress, but i just can't STAND liz…omg and especially now…she always keeps things from jason and sam, like get over yourself jason isn't yours D:
Honestly, I think it was worst that he -didn't- yell at her. To yell, you'd have to feel emotion of some sort. After everything she said, everything she used against him during that conversation, I don't think it made Jason -angry-, I think it made him hurt, and when he gets hurt he shuts down emotionally. Liz knows she messed up WORST than Robin did, and WORST than Sam did because Jason said this whole time he trusted Liz. I'm glad he didn't yell at her, because it showed how cold he was to her
You what tops everything watching this video over and over? When Jake finds out he is Jason and she knew is going to be one thing. But, when he realizes her changing these tests also kept him from his OWN child. I can't wait.
Sam made up her mistake when she saved Jake and she apparently learned her lesson with the Rick thing. She stopped this with McBain before it went too far. Elizabeth just NEVER learns, she keeps doing the same stuff.
Here’s what bugs me about this is that every time that Elizabeth has been with Jason after they broke up all those years ago she has manipulated him to be with her. I mean yeah Sam watched Jake get taken but he was found and when he died she was very supportive of Elizabeth when that happen. I mean she leaned on Jason so much and Sam let her to help her heal. She always had to find a way to trick him to be with her she always wanted Jason to be what she wanted that was her problem she never accepted Jason for he is. He’s not the one for her and neither is Franco she really needs Lucky back.
i know i just wanted to reach into my ipad and throw mcbain cross the room and say no one kisses jason's girl like that but jason (dont get me wrong mcbain is kool and all but jason and sam belong together)
Every comment on this page is correct but so true when you really love someone and they disappoint you or do something wrong you really lash out at them that's why he told sam he would kill her but just words Jason loves sam so much that he would die first before ever laying a hand on her, true love something liz will never know about
I understand she lost one of her son's but don't she have two other boys that need her too, she acts as if Jake was an ONLY child and she can't have more or she does not have other children...what is that about, what type of parent is she? She needs to move on without Jason likeness been and focus all her energy on the two sons that she has and be thankful they are alive and okay.
I dont get why people were not mad at sam and John but i get it and understand sam was in pain and more.liz and jason are good actress on gh still with others in scenes and with each other then and now when they get airtime like others on gh. I liked that liz told sam the truth about Jason and things and said that Jason belongs to sam
I get & understand why you think ppl should be mad at Sam & Mc Bain there are ppl who are mad but that doesn't give Liz and Jason a free pass for what they did either, I also understand that you're more of a Liz & Jason fan but Sam gets more than her share of being called names,talked about & everything else so Liz is just getting a little of what Liason fans dish out to Sam all the time.
My advice to Jason and Sam.... stop allowing third party into your marriage...or maybe to #GHWriters... enough is enough! Let them work through their problems and talk to each even if there is drama!!
I will never forgive those writers for how much they ruined the LIEzabeth character. Like none of this Jason obsession made sense from day 1 but yet they keep rehashing this mess. I will never forgive those writers for the scares they inflicted on me, Jason and Sam during the 07/08 era. The North Remembers!!!
Still using Jake to manipulate Jason. Liz is a piece of work. It’s sad that Jason can’t see her for who she is. She caused him and Sam so much pain but he’s like it’s okay. When does he stand up for his wife?
Sam, wake up!!! Drinking and missing Jason never goes well for you!!
i love jasons look at 7:08 he is like oh my god when is this crazy woman gonna stop talking and leave so i can go get the love of my life back....lol
Liz disgusts me here. At this point, Sam has gone through the grief of losing TWO children. Even if her son wasn't really dead, she believed he was and still suffered that pain. Liz knows what that feels like and to intentionally attempt to inflict that continued suffering on Sam is unconscionably cruel.
Jake isn't dead because Sam saw him get kidnapped. That was years later. Jake died cause she was wrapped in her own baby daddy drama (again) and wasn't paying attention. Sam screws up, royally, but she always owns up to it and pays for it, dearly, by St. Liz.
So true, Liz is so delusional and her fans
LIz will do anything to Sam to get Jason even lie about Sam's baby she is a horrid excuse for anyone but LIz wants Jason so bad she will do anything to get him.
Makes one wonder did she change Jakes results to make him Jason's son.????
I'm hoping one day the writers will bring on the subject about who the real father of Jake.
LIz will do anything to get Jason to love her,lie,cheat and make everything about what and whom she she wants,she is a liar and and an awful person.
It's high likely she did
Just want to say that I am so upset that Jason is so calm and understanding with Liz right now, especially when he blew up at Sam and threatened to kill her during the whole Jake thing....
I cant believe he ever forgave her for switching those tests. Even just for a couple days. That is so low. Hated her then hate her now lol
...but he could NOT FORGIVE Sam for keeping things from him to save HIS LIFE!
Lff Smith He did forgive Sam for not telling him Robin was dead bc Liz told him it wasn't Sam fault.
Lff Smith Sorry lol I just had to get that in bc of the irony of it all & the fact that Liz is the only reason he forgave Sam who was only trying to keep him alive by not trying to stress him out if he found out Robin had died.
everytime i look at this video it makes me laugh that way of ''saint liz'' talks to him...why she cant get over jason?, when she really knows jason and sam belong together as a family :)
She's lying. I highly doubt that she did this to get revenge b/c of what Sam did FIVE YEARS AGO. She just wanted to keep Jason to herself and she is lying about her motivation to try and make it seem like she isn't as pathetic and vindictive as she always has been.
@5:46 she is still trying to hold over Sam's head that Jake was kidnapped? its not thst Sam took the child or hired someone to do it she watched apologized and risked her own life to save Jake so Liz needs to get over her obsession and move on Jason does not want her like that and maybe they shouldn't be friends if she can't handle being around him. because no matter what he and Sam are going through he is deeply in LOVE WITH SAM.
Glenda Smith ...Yes! And maybe if Liz & Jason TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT JAKE FROM THE BEGINNING, Sam might have NOT HAVE LOST HER MIND & MAYBE WOULD HAVE STOPPED the kidnapping from happening AT ALL!!! Liz's trying SOO HARD TO PUT what Sam DID behind her is BUNK!!! She only plays that card trying to get sympathy or to deflect from her OWN ACTIONS!!!
Sam wanted her and Jason to share custody of Jake with Lucky and Liz.
We think this is a great opportunity to go back in time to 2007 and analyzed Jason's reaction when he threatened and blackmailed Sam after finding out everything she did to Elizabeth and the kids. Back then, he was cruel, violent and relentless towards Sam. He showed her no mercy. Nevermind, that both Jason and Elizabeth were the ones that deceit, betrayed, broke trust, commitments and responsibilities while forcing everyone to live in a web of lies. That ultimately resulted in Sam's mental breakdown which ended up in her not being able to act accordingly to stop Jake's kidnapping and to stop herself from staging the attack in the Park. We are not excusing the behavior. We are presenting an explanation for it. Sam acted under duress. She was the victim of extenuating circumstances. The fact that she had been already blackmailed and threaten by Jason were enough reasons to put her under duress. Besides the fact that she was already suffering the devastation of everything that both Jason and Elizabeth had done to her. Simply put, Sam was not in her right mind.
Now, in the case at had, Elizabeth chose with all the intention and treachery that those actions entailed to switch DNA results to keep Sam's baby away from her. We asked, how is that different than what Sam did back in 2007. Well, there is one big difference. Sam omitted to do something while Elizabeth actively did something. Elizabeth had the intention to cause harm and she was fully aware of what she was doing. She was not acting under duress. She was acting out of malice. The fact is that in Sam's case her omission regarding Jake's kidnapping although morally reprehensible was not illegal. However, Elizabeth's actions crossed the line at all levels legally and morally. Legally because she tampered with medical records. By doing what she did her actions are punishable by Law. Also, in reality Elizabeth's could be facing disciplinary action and most likely could lose her license. In terms of morality, her actions were totally reprehensible because she was trying to keep a mother from her child and worse she was trying to break a family. The truth of the matter was that Elizabeth was trying to keep Jason away from Sam and her baby because she didn't want Jason to be with Sam. How petty and childish could Elizabeth be? Well, obviously a lot.
The problem with Elizabeth's situation was that she had no excuse for what she did because she was not acting under duress and there were no extenuating circumstances. Although, She tried to explain everything away by using Jake's death as an excuse but that was just a nonsensical selfish manipulative tactic. Only Elizabeth could think of using the death of her child to excuse her behavior, especially when that child has been dead for over a year and Sam had nothing to do with his death. Besides,Sam actually saved Jake's life from the Russians and Elizabeth said she would always be indebted to her. Furthermore, to say that Jake's life would have been different if Sam would have never done what she did, it's another lie and another manipulation. How Jake's life would have been different? When attacked by the Russians Sam protected Elizabeth and her kids. When Jake was kidnapped by the Russians Sam risked her own life to rescue him. And Jake's death had nothing to do with Sam. Actually, it had everything to do with the Spencer's. So, what happened to Elizabeth's gratitude, we don't know. What we know is that Elizabeth is not to be trusted.
Nonetheless, what really bother us was Jason's reaction to Elizabeth's revelation. In 2007, Jason went as far as to threaten Sam's life and here Elizabeth did the same thing but not only that she tried to break his family with lies, manipulations and deception. And yet Jason's reaction was like nothing major happened. The hypocrisy and double standard was unbelievable and unacceptable. Not that we expected him to threaten her but we certainly expected him to show indignation and disappointment. The fact that he didn't show neither of those emotions was very disappointing. That was not the Jason we used to know. The Jason we were given in 2012 was definitely a rotten version of the beloved character that we have come to respect throughout the years. It was very sad that the writers decided to do such a disservice to the the character and the loyal GH Fans. We all deserved a lot better than what they did in 2012.
Blessed be!
Excellent point I think this issue is how Jason loves Liz vs how he loves Sam. Liz is a fantasy, of what he could have had if he hadn’t had the accident or if he left his mob life style… Sam is his ideal for the life he actually has… she can handle his life style in ways that no other woman (save Carly aka Sonnys wife). Sam is tangible their love is tangible… and amazing because they fit so well … so they love each other hard…. And the person that is tangible hurts it’s worst than the person that you knew would never work out hurting you. That being said Jason is a jackass from the school of Sonny jackass-etry…
So true,Jason definitely mastered the jackass class from Professor Sonny.
I think it's also Liz was what Jason wanted as his "safe place". He held Liz on that throne of she's so much better than I am, or even Carly, and Sam because she would never hurt anyone. He got an eye opener, not just because she wanted to hurt Sam but she wanted to hurt him. I think it made him think about A LOT of their situations and instead of wearing the rose colored glasses, he saw what everyone has told him about Liz and realized she's not his 'safe' place, or someone he can trust.
I pray he realizes that!
I agree with you. But I also think he didn't yell at Liz because he has never been passionate about her in anyway. I don't see Jason ever being able to muster up enough raw emotion to yell at her. The Liz/Jason dynamic is totally different from his other relationships (Robin, Carly, Courtney, & Sam). In each of his other relationships I knew and understood his desire to be with each of them. Jason and Liz are each other's comforters when things go wrong but they have no passion at all.
Jason was with Liz out obligation of getting her pregnant during their ONS.
I love Jason. I love JaSam! But why didn’t he tear into Elizabeth like he tore into Sam, even threatened her if she ever messed with Jake and Elizabeth 😡 he didn’t even seem mad at her.😡😡
Liz spewed this same exact garbage to Jason in 2015! Sheesh, will she ever learn the lesson???
the way Jason looks at liz at 8:14 like damnnnnnnn
Cant stand LIz everything is everyone else's fault but her, she lies to Jason about Sam because she wants him for herself, pathetic.
Becky's a great actress, but i just can't STAND liz…omg and especially now…she always keeps things from jason and sam, like get over yourself jason isn't yours D:
Honestly, I think it was worst that he -didn't- yell at her. To yell, you'd have to feel emotion of some sort. After everything she said, everything she used against him during that conversation, I don't think it made Jason -angry-, I think it made him hurt, and when he gets hurt he shuts down emotionally. Liz knows she messed up WORST than Robin did, and WORST than Sam did because Jason said this whole time he trusted Liz. I'm glad he didn't yell at her, because it showed how cold he was to her
STONE COLD
omg jason should of yelled at lizzard for what she did like he did to sam
You what tops everything watching this video over and over? When Jake finds out he is Jason and she knew is going to be one thing. But, when he realizes her changing these tests also kept him from his OWN child. I can't wait.
Sam apologized over and over and also saved Jake from the Russians.
Sam made up her mistake when she saved Jake and she apparently learned her lesson with the Rick thing. She stopped this with McBain before it went too far. Elizabeth just NEVER learns, she keeps doing the same stuff.
OMG was she trying to grab him around the waste, it's l I keep dang can't she see that he has Sam and Sam ONLY on his mind.......
Because HE DOESN’T LOVE YOU, LIKE HE LOVES SAM! That’s why y’all didn’t work out!😒
All this craziness is about get jason back with her. When is she going to realize he doesnt want to be with her.
Here’s what bugs me about this is that every time that Elizabeth has been with Jason after they broke up all those years ago she has manipulated him to be with her. I mean yeah Sam watched Jake get taken but he was found and when he died she was very supportive of Elizabeth when that happen. I mean she leaned on Jason so much and Sam let her to help her heal. She always had to find a way to trick him to be with her she always wanted Jason to be what she wanted that was her problem she never accepted Jason for he is. He’s not the one for her and neither is Franco she really needs Lucky back.
Sam probably should have been like Siobhan, Lucky's wife, and told her that she's not going to use Jake to try to get close to her husband.
Glenda smith I believe she changed the results to make Jason that baby daddy I can’t stand her
I agree.
Jason, now who's keeping a secret?!
i know i just wanted to reach into my ipad and throw mcbain cross the room and say no one kisses jason's girl like that but jason (dont get me wrong mcbain is kool and all but jason and sam belong together)
I thought Liz loved Jason, how could she hurt him like that?
Every comment on this page is correct but so true when you really love someone and they disappoint you or do something wrong you really lash out at them that's why he told sam he would kill her but just words Jason loves sam so much that he would die first before ever laying a hand on her, true love something liz will never know about
I understand she lost one of her son's but don't she have two other boys that need her too, she acts as if Jake was an ONLY child and she can't have more or she does not have other children...what is that about, what type of parent is she? She needs to move on without Jason likeness been and focus all her energy on the two sons that she has and be thankful they are alive and okay.
This was Liz leverage against Sam and Jason
I'm sick of saint Elizabeth
I dont get why people were not mad at sam and John but i get it and understand sam was in pain and more.liz and jason are good actress on gh still with others in scenes and with each other then and now when they get airtime like others on gh. I liked that liz told sam the truth about Jason and things and said that Jason belongs to sam
I get & understand why you think ppl should be mad at Sam & Mc Bain there are ppl who are mad but that doesn't give Liz and Jason a free pass for what they did either, I also understand that you're more of a Liz & Jason fan but Sam gets more than her share of being called names,talked about & everything else so Liz is just getting a little of what Liason fans dish out to Sam all the time.
My advice to Jason and Sam.... stop allowing third party into your marriage...or maybe to #GHWriters... enough is enough! Let them work through their problems and talk to each even if there is drama!!
cannot stand this woman.
She thought he could fix it and make it better. No she wanted Jason to love her and want a family with with.
I will never forgive those writers for how much they ruined the LIEzabeth character. Like none of this Jason obsession made sense from day 1 but yet they keep rehashing this mess. I will never forgive those writers for the scares they inflicted on me, Jason and Sam during the 07/08 era. The North Remembers!!!
Still using Jake to manipulate Jason. Liz is a piece of work. It’s sad that Jason can’t see her for who she is. She caused him and Sam so much pain but he’s like it’s okay. When does he stand up for his wife?