Barn find....my oldest double barrel shot gun find ever.

[@tripplebeards3427]

It’ll be a lot newer than 1835 my guess is it’s probably gonna be in the 1880s or newer

[@lessage760]

Wow nice old gun thank you for sharing it with us sir

[@dalemayhew8462]

Thank you as well🙂

[@merlemorrison482]

Its a cartridge gun its newer than 1835. Its Damascus steel, so id be afraid of shooting it.

[@jodiewatson-uu9kd]

Super cool! Love the decorative etching.

[@tripplebeards3427]

You get replacement hammers and screws from Dixie gun works. Bought a 1873 charles Daly Damascus SXS 10 gauge from a rummage sale in the 90’s for $45. Missing a hammer. Finally restored it a couple years ago and shot a turkey with it. They also sell screws. I’m sure you could cobble a stock for it easy enough. Just give it a vinegar bath to clean off the rust and Oxpho blue it. Looks like a fun project!

[@dalemayhew8462]

Thank you for the tips.

[@tripplebeards3427]

​@@dalemayhew8462 keep me posted how it goes. Did mine a few years ago and always looked for something like this for another project but probably with another stock already…lol. They started manufacturing guns for smokeless powder in the 1870s and yours is a little bit more modern than my 1870s ear gun. Before that, it was all black powder cap and ball type shotguns. Your firing pins are for smokeless. You also have a “dolls head” style gun. That’s the round lock up between the barrel and receiver. More modern than mine. You also have proof mark stamps which is what they did by United States manufactures when imported to the US. Mine doesn’t have any. Mines kind of a mystery. If you have any two digit numbers under the barrels. I didn’t see anyone looking at your video. Are you in millimeters your chamber lengths. Mine says “65” which is 2.5”. But It’s been bored out to 2 7/8” . Mines a 10 gauge. I use a 100 grains of FG and 1 5/8oz load of nickel plated #6’s for turkey. It patterns awful like most of the old guns like these, but it was good enough for close range to get a double bearded gobbler. For some reason those old guns don’t pattern worth the squat! Thank God for new technology and screw in chokes. I was all excited to restore it and shoot a turkey with it, which I was but super disappointed in how poorly it patterns which most of them apparently were like that so I wouldn’t expect you’ll do much better for patterns if you ever get it up and running.

[@tripplebeards3427]

You can also unscrew that hammer and put it on the other side backwards just to see if the mechanism works

[@dalemayhew8462]

Great idea

[@twodrunkbrothersgarage4911]

That’s a pretty awesome gun there Dale. Think about using a tripod that helps out a lot especially when you’re sitting there doing stuff like you’re doing right there.

[@dalemayhew8462]

I have 2 tripods....and I do use them but I thought I was super man...and I wasnt...lol....so I have this policy if I make mistakes it goes in the video...😂

[@tripplebeards3427]

There’s nothing to take in those things apart and clean them. If I could do it, anybody can. I even put a vice grips on the little square to make sure it moved back in the day when I didn’t care about marrying up my guns in the 90s when I was young and . My guess is you’re probably gonna have to make a stock for it.

[@dalemayhew8462]

Unfortunately your probably right no replacements...for this gun.

[@marknielsen2482]

It's worth fixing up. It's more than likely 1860s or newer. You can shoot 2 1/2 in shells in them

[@dalemayhew8462]

I actually picked up some brass shells to load....thought I'd be as authentic as i could definitely planing on fixing it up.

[@marknielsen2482]

@@dalemayhew8462 Track of the Wolf will be able to help you with parts and brass

[@randyblackburn9765]

@@dalemayhew8462if it’s 12 ga then mini shells should be safe

[@randyblackburn9765]

Joseph Manton ! A man told me 50 years ago they were sought after and pricey

[@dalemayhew8462]

Very good to know thank you.

[@ericschulze5641]

You can reference the proof marks on the underside of the barrels, they will tell you within a few years of when they were made. If it was a real Manton it would be quite valuable, however Manton was long out of business when your gun was made late 1800's early 1900's

[@dalemayhew8462]

Thank you for the info I will definitely check this out.

[@stephenland9361]

Wow!! To quote Sir Winston Churchill, "“It's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma…”.
First off, I highly doubt it's an authentic gun from Joseph Manton. He was, above all, THE master gunmaker of his time. No one else made guns to his level of quality, beauty, fit and finish. His guns were especially noted for the level of superlative engraving. His guns were not only excellent firearms, they were the utmost expression of the gunmaker's art and his prices reflected that. By Manton's standards, the engraving on this gun is amateurish at best. Even the name "J. Manton" is crudely inscribed.
Joseph Manton most often inscribed his guns with, "Joseph Manton" and "London". After his bankruptcy (1826) and imprisonment (1828), his workshop was seized and Joseph Lang, a gun dealer of the time bought Manton's remaining stock of guns.
His son, John Augustus Manton, preserved the name and carried on the gunmaking and legacy, going by the name “Joseph Manton & Son.” The guns from this shop continued the tradition of only making the best of the best.
Shotgun gauges back then were not as standardised as today. (In Great Britain, it's not "gauge", but rather "bore".) This gun isn't a 12 bore. It's an 11 bore. That is stamped on the barrel flats along with the proof marks. A careful examination of those proof marks and a guide to British proof marks should give you the date of the proofing.
I don't know if Manton's early gun records still exist but if they do, you could ask the record keeper to look up, "Double Hammer gun, serial number 2846". Nothing ventured, nothing gained!!

[@dalemayhew8462]

Thank you for the much useful information.

[@bulow453]

Make new wood for it both fore and stock.And add the other hammer.

[@dalemayhew8462]

I definitely have that in the works....

[@torcanotheminecraftian3949]

I have one just like it. It has everything on it, though, from Belgium. Royal gun Works, I think. Mines from I believe 1908 somewhere around there

[@dalemayhew8462]

Thank you for the info....because I have no idea what this gun dates to....thanks for watching 🙂

[@torcanotheminecraftian3949]

@@dalemayhew8462 my guess is it's similar even though they're different manufacturer, I also have those goofy hammers but I looked it up there's not a lot of info but they say it's around the early 1900s ish. To be honest they say they're not worth much, but hell I have so much fun with mine. Yours has a cool story

[@user-li3ly1vt7i]

i would guess it dates to about 1890 ish. it has what we call in the uk a dolls head at the breech end of the barrels.

[@dalemayhew8462]

@user-li3ly1vt7i thank you for your input...I learned something more about this gun

[@SusanMaddox-ik5qw]

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