Sony 300mm f/2.8 GM Review vs Canon 100-300mm f/2.8: PRIME vs ZOOM!

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 282

  • @jeffkernen1554
    @jeffkernen1554 10 місяців тому +64

    I use the Canon 300mm for a lot more than sports. I shoot a lot of events, theatre, concerts, speeches, etc. The versatility of the 100-300mm would be perfect for my work. Hope to add it to my bag sometime soon.

    • @andyman820
      @andyman820 10 місяців тому +3

      Same, I use the canon 300mm 2.8 II a ton as a live video cam on an R5. Looks absolutely spectacular. 100-300 would make it indispensable

    • @beewh001
      @beewh001 10 місяців тому +2

      Let me guess you use it for vlogging 🤣

  • @kellenholt6655
    @kellenholt6655 10 місяців тому +14

    Preface: I can’t afford either of these lenses so I’m just an armchair speculator here 😅
    I think you raise some good points here, but as I watched I kept wondering - how would the script of this video had changed if the Canon 100-300 didn’t exist? It seemed like a lot of the “negatives” of this lens were basically only because there is a 100-300 option on the market from Canon. It almost felt like this video was trying to pump up the canon lens rather than review the Sony lens. Not sure what the motivations behind this video was but that’s how it came off to me.

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch 10 місяців тому +20

    That 300/2.8GM is unreal. Use APS-C crop on the A1 and you’ve got the reach. Love the 100-300 concept though.

  • @kpopfanphotos
    @kpopfanphotos 10 місяців тому +23

    This is such an objective review I'm actually really impressed with the arguments for and against tbis lens.
    I bought the 100-300 and it's insane. It replaced almost my entire setup, but i have some friends who shoot Sony and i was even impressed seeing this release. We got into talking about how Sony might have been late to the 300, but how that the size and weight was absurd.
    I even like the part where you mentioned about how zooms and primes theres no difference really in sharpness these days. I've seen a lot of people still say they would rather have the ef 300 2.8 because it's sharper because its a prime. I have to question if these people have ever shot with modern lenses. Almost all lenses from like the last 5 or even more years are equally sharp haha.
    I do wish the rf 100-300 had that snap on hood the sony has though. That i am envious of. I hate the screw on hood sometimes. I dont regret my 100-300 purchase though. Most expensive lens I've ever bought but it's such an insane piece of engineering and so is this Sony 300 2.8. I think shooters from both brands would be happy with either these days.
    Whichever brand you shoot its always exciting to see what the competition is doing 👍

    • @Xirpzy
      @Xirpzy 10 місяців тому +1

      Compared to old ef lenses even cheap rf lenses are sharper. There are slight differences but from all the ones I have only the 28-70 f2 is a bit soft. Its still plenty sharp but noticably softer than other lenses. My ef lenses are all softer though.

    • @kpopfanphotos
      @kpopfanphotos 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Xirpzy yeah. I've used lenses all over the place ranging from 10 year old lenses or even older. 6-10 years.. yeah probably not as good. Anything from the last 5 years though for the most part are great lenses.
      That's unfortunate you said your 28-70 f2 is soft. I had that lens earlier this year but I sold it as I didn't use it much. Although... when I look back at the times I used it the images are amazing. I do find myself missing it 😂 but I didn't find it being soft at least in the copy I had.
      I had an ef 400 2.8 is ii for a while and it was as sharp as any modern lens. Compared it to the version 3 and there was no optical difference or performance difference. Literally only weight and probably better CA, but that was it. All lenses are sharp really these days at least L lenses. Maybe 10 years back only in the big primes, but as time as gone on zooms have basically just become equally as sharp.

    • @kpopfanphotos
      @kpopfanphotos 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@Broskisnowskithe only difference that has improved over the years is CA and lens coatings to reduce flare. This was true back in the day, but has not been true for the most part for several years now.
      If anything you're getting better edge sharpness. I mean we're talking like 1% differences. People that have used modern lenses and older lenses, zooms and primes will tell you it's silly the people who won't buy a 100-300 because it's a zoom and "primes are sharper" 😂
      The difference is essentially non-existent. Zooms suffer more from vignette and even that's fixed in post now.
      In the camera world there's a lot of people who argue lens sharpness and will say that X lens is the sharpest lens they've ever used. It's all self-validation to validate their purchases ultimately. The fact that people think the ef 300 2.8 is ii is sharper than the RF 100-300 2.8 is just silly. Not only is the 100-300 more modern, but it's just simply not true even if the 300 was up to date. If you paired the sony 300 2.8 with the A1 vs canon with the 100-300 2.8 with a R5 both at 300mm no pros or hobbyist or anybody will be able to tell a difference 😊

    • @alexbreugelmans8448
      @alexbreugelmans8448 Місяць тому

      All lenses are sharp 😂😂😂😂

  • @kilohotel6750
    @kilohotel6750 10 місяців тому +14

    I would've loved the Canon 100-300 2.8 last year in Botswana with my 600 F4 instead of the 100-500. The zoom would've been much more useful than the prime but I do like the Sony price more.

  • @joemoss7734
    @joemoss7734 10 місяців тому +8

    @jared polin how did you get your start at being able to get press passes for sporting events? did you have to be well known first? do you sign something giving all photos to the club? thanks for the great content!

  • @StanislavDuben
    @StanislavDuben 10 місяців тому +2

    This lens is absolutely MUST HAVE for me. I am waiting so long, I am happy I can order it. For versatility I have great Sony 200-600 or 70-200. I had in past Nikkor 400/2.8 with Nikon D3s, it was great combo, but only used for my animal photos, other photo shooting was not good as it was very long, very heavy. 300mm is much universal and with this weight? Amazing. For animals I am very often shooting from hand, weight is very important for me. So I am really looking to buy it when it will be possible. ... thanks for review btw ;)

  • @ph_anto
    @ph_anto 10 місяців тому +6

    Masterpiece of a lens. I hope in a 500/4 with this specs

  • @yewtewbtoo
    @yewtewbtoo 8 місяців тому +2

    Well for you and shooting sports the zoom may be the better choice, but for the vast majority of wildlife photographers, they are mostly shooting at 300+mm, so the prime is a better choice for the lighter weight, and the lower cost for those with the smaller budget. Personally, I would be able to carry the prime around a lot longer, and it would be a lot easier to quickly maneuver for shooting action.

  • @GV2755
    @GV2755 7 місяців тому +1

    When I shot Nikon and before that Pentax (yes, I’m old) a compact 300mm +TC was my bread and butter for wildlife and nature to which I had to hike long distances. Rarely wanted wider, often used the converters. Sony had no 300mm prime at all, so it was the 100-400. This looks fantastic with a 2.8 aperture. Now I just need the bucks.

  • @harryvuemedia5106
    @harryvuemedia5106 10 місяців тому +6

    Yes! Besides sports, I would love to have this lens for Fine Arts photography. There are times where I need to shoot a subject from far away for example my model that sits in a boat. Being able to shoot close to her while getting a beautiful bokeh is what I need from the 300mm F/2.8 lens. Very pricey but hopefully one day i can add this lens to my arsenal.

  • @Jan-PeterMohwinkel
    @Jan-PeterMohwinkel 8 місяців тому +1

    300mm plus the 50mp of the a1 is a great combo. Even on APS-C mode it has around the same resolution from the Sony a9. Small advise, usually the player warm up on the opposite side from side line referee. A sports photographer using such a combo has always a second camera. Will get mine next week. More flexibility if shooting 300mm+ because Sony has the a1. Canon has no high megapixel ultra fast body. I can easily crop with the a1 I cant do that with the R3. That plus the much higher price and weight...I would always choose the Sony.

  • @marcgilles4520
    @marcgilles4520 10 місяців тому +3

    0:58 REVOLUTION!

  • @astrotennessee
    @astrotennessee 10 місяців тому +4

    Man. That is crazy small and light. I would prefer to see a 200mm f2, but dang, that is drool worthy.

  • @Jonathantuba
    @Jonathantuba 10 місяців тому +12

    I have ordered the new Sony 300 F2.8. I prefer primes over zooms for their greater sharpness, being lighter and they make you more creative. Your only complaint with this lens was basically it is not a zoom, so you could not go wider frame when the action came close. If you were really there to photograph the game you would have another camera with wider lens to pick up and use in that situation

    • @esphilee
      @esphilee 10 місяців тому +2

      He said the lens is sharp, superb quality, and he said, If you bring this to sport as a pro, you would have another body with a 100-200mm lens on.
      He is telling us exactly that, the pros and cons of the lens.

    • @kpopfanphotos
      @kpopfanphotos 10 місяців тому +7

      and this is why the entire argument he was making throughout the video (which I presume you ignored those parts I guess) was that Sony was late to the game with this lens. 300mm was always in an awkward spot because of the exact scenario you mentioned where people just used two camera bodies. Traditonally people use a 400 2.8 and a 70-200 2.8. 300 was pointless because the 70-200 was only slightly shorter than it, while the 400 was twice the length not to mention has better bokeh and compression.
      Now we're in a new age with manufacturers building new lenses due to advancements in technology. Canon could have built a lens like this as well, but they realized there was no point so they made the 100-300 instead essentially being a 70-200 on steroids and replacing the need of a 300mm prime and allowing you to shoot on one camera, one lens instead of two and two.
      They're lighter sure, but the other two points are moot. The argument that primes are sharper than zooms has been an age old argument that hasn't been true for essentially the last 5 years or so. I've shot on multiple systems with professional glass. Modern 400 2.8's and ones from 10 years ago. There is no optical difference. The only advancements in lenses has been they've gotten lighter, they have less CA and they can focus faster and get higher keeper rates has camera fps has gotten higher. Optically lenses haven't gotten sharper in close to 10 years now.
      If primes really are still sharper I mean we're talking less than 1% differences.

    • @samthetoolman8068
      @samthetoolman8068 Місяць тому

      @@kpopfanphotos exactly 400 F2.8 is the standard sport shooting lens at football, soccer and sporting events along with the 70-200 f2.8 I would never carry a 300 prime lens over a 100-300mm lens

  • @binaryinfections
    @binaryinfections 10 місяців тому +11

    That security dude was so rude

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 10 місяців тому +3

      Securities are annoying everywhere

  • @guruvishnu22
    @guruvishnu22 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for being there for your friend Manny Ortiz Appreciate it brother

  • @brandonmcmullen1553
    @brandonmcmullen1553 10 місяців тому +7

    300mm/70-200mm combo sounds more than reasonable and would certainly be helpful for both field and indoor court sports, not to mention tennis. Most sports photogs have two (sometimes 3) bodies with them. This combo would be killer as Sony's 70-200gm ii is stupid light/sharp as a tack, and the af is crazy accurate. If I was shooting American football, I'd probably lean towards the 400 prime and the 70-200, but for many scenarios the 300 prime is just right. And because it's so light, you can use both without a tripod ;-)

    • @mike_s_media
      @mike_s_media 10 місяців тому

      Yeah you could get some pretty sweet shots at a tennis match with this one! And for sure it's another pair up option with the 70-200 gm ii.

  • @jeroenvdw
    @jeroenvdw 7 місяців тому +1

    Guess that's why many pros use Sony bodies with Canon lenses for sports. Using 1 camera with the 300 2.8 and 1 camera with a 70-200 2.8 would be another option I guess.

  • @JeffandLeslie
    @JeffandLeslie 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm not a Sony shooter so no dog in this hunt. It does look like it will be a fantastic lens for those who have a need for a 300 f2.8. It's a good time to be a photographer.

  • @PaulKretz
    @PaulKretz 10 місяців тому +1

    I stay with my *EF 200mm f/2.8 L USM* all the way😎 Yes, it is not 300 and not 100, but it is overall gorgeous and just take a look at it's price compared to these white ones...

    • @zegzbrutal
      @zegzbrutal 10 місяців тому

      EF200L and EF135L is a modern classic. I doubt any modern lens can replace them

  • @sgpork
    @sgpork 10 місяців тому +1

    At first not so interested with the 300GM. But after knowing the price and weight especially. I know i have to get 1. Got the pre order in. With 1.4 the reach should be ok.. then 61MP can do plenty/enough of crop. The main point… its just 1.4 KG come on! And snall af compare to 400prime and beyond.

  • @ApertureViews
    @ApertureViews 10 місяців тому +1

    I waiting to see what Sony does with the 100-400GM.

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan 10 місяців тому +3

    Both lenses are good but not really comparable except for the 300 mm aspect. I would much rather have the small size and weight. a six pound lens isn't fun to carry in a bag or to hand hold, but of course the zoom makes it allot more versatile. I would rather have the just announced Tamron 140 to 340 f2.8 to 3.2 that is only a little over a pound. and half the price. ........................................................................... Joking about the Tamron.

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 10 місяців тому +1

    I think an a6700, a 35-150 2-2-8 and the 300 2.8 are still cheaper than the 100 - 300 f2.8. $6000 vs $9400, it's a hard sale Jared

  • @AlKnightbird432
    @AlKnightbird432 10 місяців тому +3

    Which one was sharper

    • @CStonePhoto
      @CStonePhoto 10 місяців тому +1

      Yea a whole comparison and never compared image quality. No doubt the Sony is sharper, but it didn't fit his biased narrative.

    • @kpopfanphotos
      @kpopfanphotos 3 місяці тому

      ​@@CStonePhoto photographers are so weird. I don't know why you guys can't just be objective lol. They're both good lenses. All lenses are sharp these days. Primes used to be noticeably sharper than zooms, and while it still may hold true, lens optics have gotten so good that we're talking extreme marginal differences now.
      My friend uses an A1 and A7R5 with the 300 2.8. I have the 100-300 2.8 and used it with my R5. We couldn't tell a difference between photos. If you are arguing camera bodies yeah sure Sony is betterin that regard for sure. If the Sony is sharper solely because it's a prime I mean we're talking less than 1% differences in IQ.
      Even with my 100-300 I definitely envy my friend shooting with the A1 and 300 2.8. It's an insane combination. I also have another friend who shoots concerts and sports professionally and he rented the 100-300 as a Sony shooter (2 A1's and a A7R5) and said it was the best lens he's ever used and said he was seriously considering swapping brands just because of the 100-300. They're both insane lenses in their own right.

  • @floetik830
    @floetik830 6 місяців тому

    À choisir entre un :
    - Canon R3, objectif 100-300 ou
    - Sony A7rV 300 Mmm Gm plus un A7rV 70-200.
    - Sony A7rV 400 mm gm
    Quelle configuration choisir entre ces deux là
    ?? Pour du sportif f( football )

  • @StuartChapman193
    @StuartChapman193 8 місяців тому

    I appreciate what you say but it's a great lens for lots of other uses and would make it a great buy if you aren't predominately doing sports also second body with 70-200 . thanks for your thoughts

  • @danpedraza9586
    @danpedraza9586 10 місяців тому

    Well, I had this dilemma what you're talking about around the 11:30 mark, I had a Canon 300mm 2.8, but I felt limited so I bought a Sigma 120-300mm sports to replace my prime.

  • @InstructorWest
    @InstructorWest 10 місяців тому

    Video Request: Can you explain how LR's new feature of allowing local access to image files stores information about the changes made to images without using a catalog? Are sidecar files used for this?

  • @Sam-mc2dk
    @Sam-mc2dk 10 місяців тому +3

    I've been waiting for Sony to make the 300 2.8 for a long time. I have been adapting a Canon 300 2.8 on my A9 and I am looking forward to having the Sony 300 2.8 native lens. I have a 70-200 on another body to when I shoot with the 300 2.8 so I'm good with the 300 prime. Thanks Jared for the video. Will you shoot pick up the new A9III with the global shutter? It is quite the technological advancement! Great work Sony.

  • @the_fractured_mind
    @the_fractured_mind 10 місяців тому +1

    Honestly the longer I shoot the more I lean towards primes lenses. Yeah zoom Is far more convenient but what I love about primes is that I'm forced to be more thoughtful with my shots. Since my body is the zoom I become more critical of the composition of my shots.

    • @wilduntamedphotography1260
      @wilduntamedphotography1260 10 місяців тому +1

      Same for me, I can handle limitations better than having too many options ... Cheers

    • @pierrevilley6675
      @pierrevilley6675 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree for general photography, but for wildlife (and also sports), where you can't move at the right place to get the shot, the versatility of a zoom is a must-have.

    • @wilduntamedphotography1260
      @wilduntamedphotography1260 10 місяців тому

      @@pierrevilley6675 not for me and I do mostly wildlife and a tiny bit of sports

    • @pierrevilley6675
      @pierrevilley6675 10 місяців тому +2

      @@wilduntamedphotography1260 It is true that in wildlife photography, 95% of shots with a zoom are at the long end and then cropped a bit, so i can see why you would prefer primes (beside the obvious gain in quality, and aperture).
      Personnaly, if i had the money to buy a prime (something like a used 600 F4 or 400 2.8), i would, but i would keep a zoom for those subjects that get really close. And use each according to the subject.

  • @andrewbrooks2001
    @andrewbrooks2001 6 місяців тому

    This Sony lens or lose some stops of light and go with the Sony 100-400 f4.5/5.6?

  • @harrytan9035
    @harrytan9035 4 місяці тому

    How do the two lenses perform with teleconverters? Any idea?

  • @RaadMambles
    @RaadMambles 3 місяці тому

    Sigma has an old 120-300 2.8 for 2300 on eBay that has my eye over any 70-200

  • @joshuacarol
    @joshuacarol 10 місяців тому +7

    Canon’s 10-20mm f/4, 24-105mm f/2.8 and 100-300mm f/2.8 feels like the new and improved HEBREW TRINITY for almost all types of photography.
    Yes we’re losing 4mm between 20mm and 24mm and we have a 5mm overlap from 100mm to 105mm but this is the best trinity costing a mere $15,000.00/-

    • @kais295
      @kais295 10 місяців тому +2

      Only 15k 🙄

    • @Michael-Masi-2021
      @Michael-Masi-2021 10 місяців тому

      ​@@kais295yes only.

    • @tchlin
      @tchlin 10 місяців тому

      5.7 lbs is too much for a do it all lens for me.

  • @rumbahd
    @rumbahd 10 місяців тому

    no raw for download fro? thanks

  • @cadmus777
    @cadmus777 10 місяців тому

    Jared, you've gotta relax, and learn to crop!! Tightening up those shots of yours in the final slideshow would make SO much difference! You shot with the 50mp A1 - surely you can see the benefit of cropping!!

  • @JJtoob
    @JJtoob 10 місяців тому

    That thumbnail is gonna be the new “caught in 4K” meme 😂

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 10 місяців тому +7

    Now days portability is the biggest factor for many. Not just this lens is the whole system.

    • @deeepraveen
      @deeepraveen 10 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely right! Portability comes out first especially when travelling so that I don’t want to use my phone to capture photos when I have a 5k set up just sitting in my bag and didn’t want to take out because of the weight.

  • @angelogarciajr5356
    @angelogarciajr5356 10 місяців тому

    I am a Canon guy trying to decide between a fixed 300 verses a 400mm f2,8 both version 2s. Mostly for Friday Night Lights? What say you?

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  10 місяців тому

      Depends. 400 gives such a look and isolates subject. But depends if you
      Want baseball cards or more action. .

  • @smilsmff
    @smilsmff 10 місяців тому

    hmm i wonder what Nikons 100-300 F/2.8 Would compare to Sonys prime 300?

  • @195367sam
    @195367sam 10 місяців тому

    May I know the monopod model?00:52

  • @melissafaria5386
    @melissafaria5386 10 місяців тому +1

    In case someone hasn't mentioned it the team was the New England Revolution.
    In regards to the lenses, I would prefer the 100-300 for versatility....if I had $10,000 laying around to purchase something like that 😂

    • @pierrevilley6675
      @pierrevilley6675 10 місяців тому

      You can get the sigma 120-300 2.8 for 1500€ used (although it probably isn't as sharp)

  • @rudyreimer302
    @rudyreimer302 10 місяців тому

    Yeah it’s sharp but a300mm…but seems limiting for me…others if it’s what your looking for then go for it.

  • @aperture8983
    @aperture8983 10 місяців тому +1

    Canon is just making sure that they want to keep rumors alive that we are coming up with third party lens but in reality thy are not serious thy want you bay their over price lenses.

  • @dandaninglis
    @dandaninglis 10 місяців тому +4

    I'm going with the Sony for a few reasons, already preordered it!
    1. I'm invested in the Sony ecosystem already with other GM glass.
    2. Size and weight. Being able to hand hold this for long periods of time will be awesome.
    3. Price. I'd love a 400 2.8 from Sony but it's out of my budget. The 300 2.8 is about half the cost of the 400. It's cheaper than the Canon 100-300 but to be honest that lens was never really a consideration mostly because it's a pain to switch systems.
    4. Multiple Bodies. I definitely agree, the versatility of a 100-300 would be fantastic for sports and perhaps even more so for wildlife. However, most sports photographers shoot with multiple camera bodies. Jared alluded to it in the review and yes you might miss occasionally but I don't think it will be that big of an issue. Personally I can't wait to use this alongside my 135 1.8 GM, I think this is going to be a great combo.
    5. Simply put, I enjoy shooting with primes more than zooms.

    • @ryandueker5842
      @ryandueker5842 10 місяців тому +2

      Very well said. I also preordered the lens. Size, weight, and cost.

    • @dandaninglis
      @dandaninglis 10 місяців тому

      Thanks mate. Now if only Sony would ship them sooner!!

  • @sulev111
    @sulev111 10 місяців тому +1

    60-600 and ISO25600 that's where it's at :D

  • @siemworks7078
    @siemworks7078 10 місяців тому +5

    ❤ clearly Canon is the winner. So happy to be at the canon team 🎉

  • @ItsMeHammie
    @ItsMeHammie 10 місяців тому

    I was thinking the Philadelphia Union is playing the New England... Union?

  • @mbismbismb
    @mbismbismb 10 місяців тому

    I think sony design the lens in canon language... judging from the badge of the focal length on the lens and the colours of the case etc

  • @ColinRobertson_LLAP
    @ColinRobertson_LLAP 10 місяців тому

    Two years ago a friend and I rented the Canon EF 300mm. Great lens! If I had a need to shoot with one all the time, I'd be all over the 100-300mm.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 10 місяців тому +4

    They're the New England Revolution. As for the lenses: the Canon may be heavier. But if image quality is very close and they're both F/2.8, I'd go with the Canon zoom for the versatility.

  • @porkster5924
    @porkster5924 10 місяців тому

    You need to learn how to use a big telephoto such as a 400mm f/2.8 on a monopod with a 70-200 on another body for shooting sport, it’s easy.

    • @kpopfanphotos
      @kpopfanphotos 3 місяці тому

      That's the old way of doing it. Several professional photographers have started replacing that combination with the 100-300 2.8 and a 600 f4 now.

  • @6gwilliams
    @6gwilliams 10 місяців тому +2

    Of course you are a Canon guy now and will prefer whatever they have over Sony. That is what we expect. Both lenses are valid choices, but as a pro with over 50 years in the business and a user of all brands including Canon ,Nikon and Sony, I would not EVER change brands because of one particular lens, that is ludicrous. LOL I shoot all subjects around the world, and you buy into a whole system, not one lens. Enjoy your Canon gear. Cheers

  • @ghlocal1
    @ghlocal1 10 місяців тому

    Skittles!!

  • @MubiVisuals
    @MubiVisuals 10 місяців тому

    I have an r7 but I need better glass for it under 500 bucks 😭

  • @idol031808
    @idol031808 10 місяців тому +1

    Prime all day.

  • @samthetoolman8068
    @samthetoolman8068 Місяць тому

    I would take a canon 100-300 F2.8 along with a 400mm F2.8

  • @Zap09060
    @Zap09060 10 місяців тому +2

    You can buy 3 Spectacular Sony lenses which are, if not better then at least on par with single canon lens which is 2 time heavier than 300 GM 😊
    1) Sony 300 f2.8 GM - $6000
    2) Sony 135 F1.8 GM - $2100
    3) Sony 70-200 F2.8 GM II - $2800
    Canon need to do something about their lens lineup

    • @SeddersShots
      @SeddersShots 10 місяців тому +2

      Sure….and how many bodies will you be shooting with to make sure you have that full coverage when you need it? Another 18k for 3 pro level bodies?

    • @Zap09060
      @Zap09060 10 місяців тому

      @@SeddersShots why do you need 3 bodies when you can use Sony A1 and it gives you all focal lengths which Canon is giving with 100-300 f2.8.
      APSC mode in A1 gives you 1.5 crop and 21 Mp as well which is almost same as R3. In fact the Sony 70-200 f2.8 GM II will become 105mm to 300mm f2.8 on A1 in APSC mode and it’s a killer lens for $2800. Canon is 3 times costly and 2 times heavier. If you use Sony A7RV then you get 26 MP which is more than R3.
      Canon really needs to invest in good lens designers and be competitive with their price.

    • @SeddersShots
      @SeddersShots 10 місяців тому

      @@Zap09060 Lol yeah, sure, that's exactly what everyone will do, my bad.

    • @SeddersShots
      @SeddersShots 10 місяців тому

      @@Zap09060 also, maybe looks up what cropping does for your aperture ;)

    • @Zap09060
      @Zap09060 10 місяців тому

      @@SeddersShots APSC mode doesn’t change aperture it just changes your FOV. As long as you are able to get to 300 Mm focal without sacrificing too many MP’s it works for high MP count cameras very well. R3 is 24 MP… Sony A1 is 50 MP with 21 MP on APSC mode. A7RV is 61 MP with 26 MP on APSC mode. 😁 Not sure where you read APSC mode changes aperture. TC changes the aperture not the APSC mode.

  • @tysonator5433
    @tysonator5433 10 місяців тому

    I would be telling security to f**k off and leave me to do my job,... !

  • @Makta972
    @Makta972 10 місяців тому +71

    Canon all day.

    • @guijesanchez9115
      @guijesanchez9115 10 місяців тому +8

      Been debating between the Sony and the Canon. I love the Canon R6 Mark II so I think I might just go with that.

    • @jsan7610
      @jsan7610 10 місяців тому +11

      Sonny is even starting to copy Canon with their Red Ring 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @deebee68
      @deebee68 10 місяців тому +9

      The A1 by itself is such a better camera than anything Canon offers and it’s almost three years old and then Sony puts the A9III and the global shutter on the map. I’m fine with the GMaster glass.

    • @tchlin
      @tchlin 10 місяців тому +7

      Didn't think I would ever say that something could be more annoying than gaming fanboys but camera fanboys are even worse. Buy what you want and enjoy what you want.

    • @slurp3194
      @slurp3194 10 місяців тому

      @@jsan7610cannon has been following sony for ages sony innovates cannon follows what u on about. Cannon rf doesnt have nearly as much high quality glass as sony lmfao not to mention third party options way lighter and smaller with as good if not better optical quality. You guys are lacking basic pro rf prime glass

  • @puckdropimages
    @puckdropimages 10 місяців тому

    Anyone else feel Canon and Sony are secretly the same company? Sony's 300 looks almost identical to the canon version II tele primes that came out in around 2012.

  • @ColinRobertson_LLAP
    @ColinRobertson_LLAP 10 місяців тому

    Closed ecosystem aside, I'm loving Canon pushing the boundaries of classic lens formulas. Instead of a 16-35 f/2.8, we have a 15-35 f/2.8 IS. The 24-70 f/2.8 also has IS now. The 100-400 now goes to 500mm. The ultra wide now goes to 10mm and is far smaller than the 11-24mm was. The 70-200 is more practical because of the collapsible design. Then there's the 28-70 f/2, 24-105 f/2.8, and of course, the 100-300 f/2.8. It'll cost you, but these are some great optics!

    • @frankfeng2701
      @frankfeng2701 10 місяців тому +2

      But Canon should still allow third-party lenses to push their boundary, like 35-150, 17-50, 50-400, albeit not in the same weight class.

  • @zfiddy
    @zfiddy 10 місяців тому +1

    Do you ever want to just shave all that hair off somedays?

  • @markaustin1166
    @markaustin1166 10 місяців тому +1

    This is nothing new. The zoom sounds compelling, I shot for years the Sigma 120-300. I think I finally actually wore it out. But all things considered the A9-3 with the 300 would be my pick over the bloated Canon rig. I was a Caonon shooter for years, but the compactness of the Sony's won me over. If I need a zoom, I'll go to the 200-600 .... again nothing against the Canon.... but for my real world shooting, the 300 works.

  • @susanmeyer8885
    @susanmeyer8885 10 місяців тому

    100 - 300 f2.8 makes more sense functionally, IMHO. Not considering what you are currently shooting and price among other things. I shoot Canon and like my 100 - 500 but would love the 100 - 300 f2.8. Price eliminates that for me, unfortunately.

  • @SuomiFinland78
    @SuomiFinland78 10 місяців тому

    This Sony lens is incredible light, but it seem to me it should have come earlier. Canon 100-300 is more versatile, even if more expensive. If I needed this kind of lens, I would opt for Canon's one.

  • @moshikohn5955
    @moshikohn5955 10 місяців тому

    5th

  • @theoneandonlyhypno5253
    @theoneandonlyhypno5253 10 місяців тому

    second

  • @SarvanDhadhich
    @SarvanDhadhich 10 місяців тому

    100-300 mm lens makes more sense for sports & other action photography, if there is not much difference between photo quality then versatility wins

  • @chennytango9298
    @chennytango9298 4 місяці тому +1

    Canon’s 100-300 RF and Nikon’s 120-300 is more versatile.

  • @mbismbismb
    @mbismbismb 10 місяців тому +1

    300mm fixed lens for sport... haha nonono what was sony thinking

  • @isurumadusanka3960
    @isurumadusanka3960 10 місяців тому

    Definitely canon ❤

  • @tomegan4060
    @tomegan4060 10 місяців тому

    Sony needs a 100-300 f2.8. 300 prime to limited

  • @AndrzejZalewskiYT
    @AndrzejZalewskiYT 5 місяців тому

    2:35 - 70-200 + 300 prime. That's it. No need for bulky heavy 100-300. Shame that Canon sucks in lenses beyond 200mm.

    • @mrg6424
      @mrg6424 5 місяців тому +1

      Tell us you don’t k so what you’re talking about, without telling us! 😂

    • @DoubleNDoulbleP
      @DoubleNDoulbleP Місяць тому +1

      but you can get 100-300mm and 24 -105mm in the same time😂

    • @AndrzejZalewskiYT
      @AndrzejZalewskiYT Місяць тому

      @@DoubleNDoulbleP thats true ;)

  • @Neanderthal_yardy
    @Neanderthal_yardy 10 місяців тому

    Nah, I’m gonna stay with canon and rent the others for the experience

  • @Yotengri
    @Yotengri 2 місяці тому

    Sony alll the way!

  • @AzarathGirl123
    @AzarathGirl123 10 місяців тому

    I'd go with a 100-300 any day. fortunately for my wallet, I have no need for such a lens😂

  • @mbismbismb
    @mbismbismb 10 місяців тому

    I choose flexibility and quality so i choose Canon thank you...

  • @bluecheese20401
    @bluecheese20401 10 місяців тому

    Once again canon killing it. This is dull

  • @fruhfruh429
    @fruhfruh429 10 місяців тому +25

    Idk why I watch these 😅 I’m broke as a joke but always enjoy the content
    Thanks to fro and Stephen for crushing as always

    • @BruceLeroyUK
      @BruceLeroyUK 10 місяців тому +4

      Same 😂😂

    • @stepheneckert4006
      @stepheneckert4006 10 місяців тому +3

      Dan too!

    • @BruceLeroyUK
      @BruceLeroyUK 10 місяців тому +1

      @@stepheneckert4006 only because he has never listened to the podcast. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lorenzogattaldo3764
    @lorenzogattaldo3764 10 місяців тому +8

    I'd be very happy if Sony made a 4,0/100-300mm - I mean with a constant f/4

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 10 місяців тому +5

      Why constant f4 if canon can make it to f2.8 hahaha

    • @PH61a
      @PH61a 10 місяців тому

      @@mbismbismb Simple: then you'd have to pay 4 times the price hahaha

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 10 місяців тому +1

      mehhh f4 is noobs@@PH61a

  • @spencerburrows5360
    @spencerburrows5360 10 місяців тому +4

    As a wildlife shooter I’d much sooner have the lighter 300mm prime. Perfect companion lens to a 600mm.

    • @wilduntamedphotography1260
      @wilduntamedphotography1260 10 місяців тому +3

      Exactely, had the 400 F2.8 but sold it a few days ago because 400mm is too close to the 600 F4 I still have, so I pre-ordered the 300 F2.8 GM 🎉

  • @brucemacneil
    @brucemacneil 6 місяців тому +2

    300mm is short for football.

  • @j.kimmer1509
    @j.kimmer1509 10 місяців тому +2

    I have shot field sports.... 100-300 is a must - it eliminates the 70-200 + BODY... 300 alone is nothing compared to the usability of the 100-300. Oh the weight??? stfu - no one is carrying any prime lens for 2 hours... we all use a monopod. wight doesnt matter the ability to instantly zoom out is money.

  • @rickpartlow534
    @rickpartlow534 10 місяців тому +3

    I don't like zooms. I'd take the lighter lens.

  • @TrevorMcGrathPhotography
    @TrevorMcGrathPhotography 10 місяців тому +2

    I switched from Canon to Sony in 2017 and love Sony, but in the same week that they killed it with the release of the A9III, they totally f@$ked up with the 300 prime. They were too long developing this lens, and now its outdated BY the Canon 100-300. I shoot music, and that 100-300 f/2.8 range is my bread&butter. Particularly indoors where low light requires a fast aperture. I'm kinda pissed off about this as I've been using the older Sigma 120-300mm with the MC11 for some time but it's heavy!! Looks like I'll be sticking with this setup

  • @riotrob
    @riotrob 10 місяців тому +2

    Oh no😮. How could you use the a1, with its rolling shutter, and all that flickering on the lcd ad boards. The horror! Global shutter is a must have for all sports shooters (says all the people who don’t shoot sports). 😱. 👈 and that’s pretty much what it’s like being in the Sony fb groups this week. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

  • @ottenburg
    @ottenburg 10 місяців тому +2

    You just cannot help yourself complaining about Sony and asking if/when people will come over to Canon. I appreciate that you like RF glass, and I do too, but to complain that Sony doesn't have an 85/1.2... where is Canon's 24/1.4 GM, 35/1.4 GM, 50/1.4 GM? The Sony 50/1.2 GM is superior to Canon's on all fronts, so it the Sony 70-200/2.8 GM II to the RF 70-200/2.8.
    Back to the review - no one will change systems over 1 single lens. It is great that Sony has a very light 300/2.8. It is equally great that Canon has the 100-300/2.8, but $3,500 is a meaningful difference in price to many people.

    • @bladerealm124
      @bladerealm124 10 місяців тому

      The Canon RF 70-200mm f2.8 is only 5.75" long retracted. While I normally dislike external zoom lenses, this compact size frees up so much space in my bags allowing me to store it vertically. The same goes for the RF 100-500mm at 8.17" vs. the Sony 200-600mm (which I previously owned) at 12.52". I can actually store the 100-500mm vertically in my F-stop Shinn 80l bag.

    • @ottenburg
      @ottenburg 10 місяців тому +2

      @@bladerealm124 I agree about the size, I owned and used the RF 70-200/2.8, but I found the push/pull system really tiresome. Using that lens for e.g. 2 basketball games in a row was exhausting - the Sony one is just so much smoother to use for fast action.

  • @SpiritCrusher89
    @SpiritCrusher89 10 місяців тому +1

    "I know where I wanna be [...]"
    Money trucks incoming!

  • @DoubleNDoulbleP
    @DoubleNDoulbleP Місяць тому +1

    sony fan crying so hard right now😂

  • @sdhm808
    @sdhm808 10 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Jared your reviews are the closest I’m gonna ever get to touching one of those lenses!!😂😂

  • @ryandueker5842
    @ryandueker5842 10 місяців тому +11

    Hey Jared, great video as always. As a Sony shooter I’ve been looking forward for this 300mm f/2.8 for so long and I’m so excited it is here. This lens is perfect for me as I want a lightweight prime lens. Cost of this lens is much better than the 100-300 lens cost. I’m very excited to get my own 300mm. I can’t afford to buy a 400mm f/2.8 so the 300 prime is perfect for me

  • @p.VAZ.
    @p.VAZ. 10 місяців тому +1

    Damn!!! That Canon money truck be backing with loads and loads of money!!!

  • @horniuvrat1642
    @horniuvrat1642 10 місяців тому +1

    The Sony is significantly smaller, lighter and cheaper, but that's not the point. F2.8 is not always the same as F2.8. A lens with a fixed focal length and fewer elements is always expected to have a lower T-stop than a zoom lens.

  • @iankeel7914
    @iankeel7914 10 місяців тому +2

    The opening is to stop the hood cover slipping when you take it off, you grip the lens hood with your thumb through the cut out, then release the velcro and remove the cover.

  • @epsonc882009
    @epsonc882009 10 місяців тому +1

    Sony 300mm is 2lbs lighter than Canon 300mm f2.8 II and the price is cheaper than Canon 300mm released 12 yrs ago, AZMAZING!

  • @DieHardEddieEdwards
    @DieHardEddieEdwards 10 місяців тому +4

    How did the A9 III feel in your hands? I really wanted to ask that last week.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  10 місяців тому +12

      better then most sony's, but not as good as an R3.

    • @michaelmiller7928
      @michaelmiller7928 10 місяців тому +4

      Keep in mind your hands may agree more with an A9 III than myself or Fro or anyone else. Everyone has different bodies so you may find one is better than the other. An R3 feels terrible in my hands. I'm a small guy. An A7R V with the grip feels like it's literally made for me.

    • @tonygerassi1502
      @tonygerassi1502 10 місяців тому +2

      @@michaelmiller7928I agree. I moved from an R6 and R5 to the A7iv and A7Rv and I have stubbier fingers and find the Sony’s more comfortable. Also I can now reach the joystick with my thumb where I had to move my grip on the body to stretch my thumb over on the canon. It’s all about what fits in your hand.

    • @DieHardEddieEdwards
      @DieHardEddieEdwards 10 місяців тому

      @@michaelmiller7928 I like the feel of the Sony bodies now. I shot Nikon and it's definitely better worse than that, but you get used to it and I like it now.

  • @gdr1970
    @gdr1970 10 місяців тому +2

    I’m more impressed with the new shop front set 😉