Hera: How to beat an extreme AI
Viper: Hey what's up guys today attempt 384 to beat the AI 1v4
How to beat extreme Ai
Map starts
*pushes 25 buttons in 5 seconds*
Me: Okay what just happend ?
Right? This is why I'll never become anything than a filthy casul player, but you know what? I'm fine with that
opens town center, queues 2-3 villagers, selects two villagers, hotkey builds a house, selects the 1 other vill, hotkey builds another house, selects scout, moves scout over to sheep.
these are the opening actions for every civ that doesn't have some weird start with extra villagers or no houses etc.
Just work on using hotkeys to build stuff and after a couple games you should get pretty quick at this even on a xbox controller.
As for the rest of the video, that's gonna take quite a bit of practice
Me watching this and thinking this looks so easy, but when I try this with even the hard AI, I'm surprised every time 😭.
I'm starting too wonder if the AI is watching these videos too
@@danielperkins9347 the key for me is picking a good adaptable civ. I like magyars bc they're super versatile with what I like, archers, calvary, and horse archers. I don't like hard build orders, yes you need a build order but once you hit mid feudal, it kinda goes out the window and you just need to adapt.
In the next patch it would be funny if they make the AI say 'gg' before resigning
Just picked up DE. AIs always come with some funny excuse to why they lost, like villagers unable to replant berry bushes.
Hera is the best educator in this game. Period.
Sick meme intros as well! :D
Thank you for this guide, first time that I won the IA in extreme mod, just following your tip step by step. Perfect.
Can you do another beginner to 2k guide with DE? Feel like you'd make the series even better now
Perfect timing. I worked my way through all the AIs except extreme, after this video I'll try to beat it. Your videos helped me before, thanks a lot :)
It really works, was struggling with the Extreme AI for a long time, and won today first try on this build order! Thanks Hera!
I can beat one AI pretty reliably, but we usually play more with my friends, and the problems start when some of the AIs don't instantly die. They start trading very early and very aggressively, and while we are trying desperately to save our dying teammates they just get such a lead that it seems impossible to come back.
Ok, this video was made in early 2021 or late 2020… Has the Definitive Edition since majorly beefed up the AI? He didn’t get pushed once. The AI on Hard routinely pushes me in early Feudal with 20+ skirms and archers.
Build a double stone wall early in Feudal. Buys you time to make a few knights. Shouldn't take a lot to kill their first wave off. Drop a castle right behind your wall. All of that should buy you enough time to build your army up. Consider university techs for castles and walls.
I think the ai got beefed, I've been trying the same strat on hardest and they got me destroyed every time
@@digitalconsciousness Hm actually more deep i go with extreme AI, the more i am dead. From Castle Age is AI pushing so much even when i kill 50 villagers AI refill it on different place on map and then start pushing me and its impossible. So only play how to beat it is to rush in feudal and somehow kill villagers with army. Then jump to castle and fast run siege and kill, if AI jump to Castle Age i am pretty sure dead even if his main base is ko.
@@truechecker680 You shouldn't make the mistake and let it outboom you. I played against extreme ai not so long ago and it was looking good for the early to mid-game, then I only concentrated on booming and he finished me off with like 50 hussite wagons (especially since I didn't really keep my army production up and he just got me there)
@@danpower7416 it always outbooms us especially after fourth tc, cos ai can control every vill and every military unit in the exact same moment. Zero tc/vill idle time.
Please do more of it, adding 1 more AI after every success.
honestly it would be soooo stupid to try to play against 4 extreme AIs and failing so much
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 copy paste same comment even though it has very low sense
Wow, Viper and Hera both uploading Extreme AI videos on the same morning!
19:42 Yes, definitely. It takes a little bit practice; just 7 years of it.
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@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 I mean, already being a pro must've helped with that. It's interesting you even needed that 1 month of practice haha.. Jokes aside, it's a great video, very helpful on many aspects.
It's even more interesting that I got the notification for your reply 1 month later. UA-cam is weird.
Will you try 1v2, 1v3, etc. against the extreme AI too? So interesting to watch :D
honestly it would be soooo stupid to try to play against 4 extreme AIs and failing so much
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I understand.
Im not good at realising irony, sorry.
I think you both are awesome players and I enjoy watching ur videos alot.
19:42 "It doesn't take lot of skill, it just takes practice."
Isn't that called skill? :D
Not sure if this strategy is still relevant anymore? I followed this to the T & the AI archer rushes as well and WAY faster. My timing was even better
Everytime when i watch Hera I say " yeah now i can beat hard Ai " but it never happens...
@@Nusret__ I beat hard AI by luck once by luck since it didn't rush me in feudal or early castle and basically let me have an insane boom with like seven town centers, and so it just couldn't match the sheer volume of military units I was pumping out after hitting imperial.
Amazing. Looked so easy! Also, this made me truly realize the difference in a pro level vs an avg aoe player like me! I get smashed by Harder AI let alone Extreme. But hopefully get there someday! ;)
The build order sheet makes it seem like you need to go to castle at 26 vils, and I was like "Am i really that bad? how can i have 100 food when im supposed to go up?".
Luckily this video exists.
Step 1: pick island/real world island map
Step 2: Give enemy American Civ
Step 3: Castle the entire coast of every island and starve them.
@Hera could you make a video showing how to beat the Extreme AI without any feudal aggression? I can usually win if I attack in feudal, but if I try fast castle or boom, they almost always out boom me and then pain ensues.
Hey, I make archers as fast as possible but when my first 6 archers come to enemy base they have more archers than me. And my units end up killed despite trying to escape
It's really hard to fight against extreme AI without attacking them in feudal and castle. I "dare" you to beat 1v2 while only attacking after 30 minutes
When facing multiple ai is actually better to boom and steamroll them in early imp so around the 30 minute mark
Facts! I always win when I rush and it always crushes me after 30+ esp in imperial
So it must be my timing or something but no matter how many archers I show up with in feudal it seems like ai has 4 more archers/skirms. My unit control is crappy so I’m sure that factors in. But my army just gets wiped. Plus if I attack and fall back they just chase me all The way (which they don’t seem to do here). Anyone have any advice?
I tried this tactic many times but each time ai made catapults and killed my archers. What should I do ?
When you ungarrison during the boar lure, do you use your "ungarrison" or "send back to work" hotkey? Does it involve a gather point? It happened really fast, kinda missed what happened in detail.
I need some help. What hotkeys do you use to move around that fast in the beginning?
Teach us how to beat the Extreme AI but without archers or atleast without an archery civ. Can you do it?
Just a question, have the many balance patches changed much when it comes to top civs (S / A tier), or is it mostly similar? Looking at yours, Vipers and SotF tier lists, some older than others
Hera is so fast I had to put it on .75 speed and then he just sounded drunk 🥴
What sucks is whenever you do EVERYTHING the way you are supposed to, just like in this video, and the AI still beats you. I run a raid and get destroyed. I build more archers preparing for the counter and get destroyed.
Tried this today. Got extremely beaten!
Thank you uploading, Hera. Your video is really useful!!!
Freaking insane. It worked :) Thank you so much Hera.
There is a civ that produces unique infantry like the plague, super fast that destroyed me fairly quickly.
@@ihmpall no, it is Malians or something like that. 18 attack. Still are not entirely familiar with all civs.
I would like to see you making a guide ''how to beat the AI with the lowest amount of APM''
Honestly speed doesn’t matter as much as one think if you do all the right things!
Thanks so much for this video. Really want to improve my early game, this helps so much
This updated Extreme AI is brutal. It transitions Very fast, its army composition always counter yours. It spams and micro like hell, and is Very competent defending against rushes and withstanding pressure in order to comeback at you.
Love the vids and is not hate or anything but consider that if you do an introduction and after that you put your intro of the ram it means that i just watch 4 ads before the content, the 2 youtube ads, your intro and the ram intro xD
How did you do to send each farmer back to his/her farm after garrisoning them in the TC with the mouse?
I build 2 or 3 towers on a hill between towns and put some skirms in them. Then ad castles in the same area but be ready for trend if you don't win by imperial.
Hey Man , You are the best in AOE !! Really love your videos, btw How do I get the Build order ?
i want to see no Rush in early game i want to see the late game if granted :)
Would you say there's much difference between the Attack Move and Patrol for engaging?
Would this build beat the updated Ai? I think it would be a little too slow...
the build order says horse collar afer clicking up to castle age, is it viable before clicking too?
Is the only way to beat the AI in the early game? or when you have an Age advantage?
I beat the ai by defending until the post imperial. The ai breaks in the late game and basically does nothing.
lol shout out to the guy who gifted a sub to the AI after Hera said that the AI is bad because it doesn't have his build orders.
How big is a difference between hardest and extreme AI? I managed to beat Hardest AI today, havent tried extreme AI
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Your videos help a lot! Tower rushing beats any AI, dont know if its viable in multiplayer ....
G fuel + build orders....got it!
So is 7 on gold standard for two ranges? I always thought it was 8.
7 to start, u add the 8th eventually, thats the perfect way to do it
i guess this isnt uptodate anymore because when i try this i getr man at arms rushed at min 11 by exteme ai and 3 min later archers while and also his scout is does raid my wood line . Also later ai does use stances to dodge shots and shit and lures deer all the time. I tried archer rushes but im to slow and fall back into defence
Hi Hera. Please do a video on how to beat the extreme ai with Frank scouts and knights. Please.☺️
I had the AI resigned when i only occupied 2 gold mines of him and i was surprised when he resigned because of that!!!
And i was actually shocked that the AI did villager rush on the towers i build guarding the mines!!!
Thanks for this tutorial.
Now, this game it was against the custom extreme AI, what about vs a BARBARIAN extreme AI? What do you think... is the barbarian better than custom AI?
you could think about some fun AI challenges as well, maybe not just 1 v X of AI opponents
e.g. 1v3 beat 1 with only Range-Units, 1 with only Infantry, 1 with only Cav (hence you gotta delete your WHOLE offensive army after beating 1)
So helpful thank you so much!!
wait how do you instantly go to scout when not near it? what i want to know is is there a hotkey to go to scout cavalry
He has it on a control group, which if you press the hotkey twice, it centers the camera on what's in the control group.
@@Wadusher oh alright ill try to do that i just didn't know any controls i played without them xd
thanks tho
my brain can keep out with your words but not with what's happening on the screen lolz
hi Hera
What is the timing for stone mining in your BO ?
When you know you can send villager to stone ?
hey, usually when u get 3 tc up and running u start mining stone after that
Persian TC drop on nomad, beat extreme AI under 8min
where is the link to the document?
Pls a guide without rushing in feudal. Maybe arena?
Always it crushes me in imperial!
great viedeo, but i think britons are not the best pick to showcase it sonce their build order in dark age is slightly differnt from normal and the ranges work faster, vietnames would have been a better pick with their clean BO and its a great beginner civ since yo see enemy tc at the beginning
Cn u do one against barbarian on hardest?
I win V extreme AI consistently and I am only 1080...I wonder what's wrong with my online gameplay
Well... sounds normal, i beat the extreme AI consistently and I am 1025 or something. I guess the AI normally does not attack fast nor in a smart way (like it starts attacking buildings with archers), so it's quite hard to learn from it after a certain point.
Yes. I also feel the same. The biggest difference I found was the way AI attacks and a 1000+ elo player attacks. Also the way the AI keeps on sending vills to build the same building even if it is being attacked
this video is gold
Thanks for the amazing guide Hera! Does anyone know how to garrison your farmes (14:20) and send them back to their respective farms? Is it just garrison/ungarrison?
First you garrison the vills, then use the "back to work" button at the TC. not the ungarrison button, but the "back to work" button.
yes, if you ungarrison with F they go back to what they were doing, if you ungarrison with G they go to the gathering point
Nice vid.. only that i can not click that fast around the screen... tried but i keep selecting vils and sending them all over the place... no one works just keeps walking here and there... i tried watching the vid at .5x speed... its actually funny and more informative that way
Just did this build, (I have never beaten extreme before) and it worked on the first try, even though I fucked up! Then I did it better 2 times in a row, and in ranked games aswell and I've won everything so far! Great build, thx :D!
Can you and The Lord try and beat 6 extreme AIs (not including SilvaBoi because he obviously struggles with multiple AIs hehe 😇😁) ?
While 1v3 is easy for players of your caliber, I think the bigger map size and the possibility of better sling/teamwork between the AIs will make it slightly harder and more challenging than just two 1v3s.
Thanks Hera.
Hera and theviper vs 6 extreme IA
Hera makes it look so easy
hey Man where can i have build orders ? i could not find it
u have to sub to my twitch channel, and then join my discord, both links in description
It always bugs me when I see Britons vs. Celts matchup and the Britons are blue and the Celts red and not vice versa. The same with Britons and Franks.
just let it get up to post imperial and crush it. works for me
hera: doesnt take alot of skill
me: failing for the 10th time :(
looks so easy.. but I can't even pull it off against hardest
The Ai always disrespects me and tries to steal my gold ;_;
I can't win against older hard bot every time, HERA wins new game's extreme WTF
Jesus christ we got slapped by Hardest 6v2
Start against AI Extreme in impererial age... And see how that one goes
I did it with a little cheating..AI was extreme but it was set to the Original CD AI lalala
Im here for aoe and the eset robot lol
This doesn’t seem like extreme AI
While i respect your high skills to defeat them, this doesnt look fun to do.
Civ win
This is not extreme ai i face. Even the hardest ai would take half of the map.
If TheViper watches this video four times and drinks GFuel, he should finally be able to beat 1v4 Extreme AI.
xD nice one