You should really reduce your power before you reduce your antenna. There is no downside to cutting your power output if your intended recipient can get your message.
Just saw this today, good advice. Similar to things we were taught in the Army, where we did have code keys we could use depending on the comms plan. If someone can not afford the higher end gear, another thing you mentioned would be ideal and we used it all the time to piss off the Range cadre and OPFOR when we were in the box at training areas. Before we would head to the field, the Squad Leaders and Comms NCO would meet up with the Platoon leader and Sgt. to create what we called at the time 'burst messages' simple one letter and numbers to just say in a few seconds on the radio, in the clear, that would not mean anything to anyone with out our date/time cards we made up. We would change up every 24 hours, or if someone was compromised by being made a POW by the range staff, we had a special code only we knew in our heads so we could change up the current card in use and no one would know we swapped out what was working just a little while ago. You can go deep into it,as you said, if everyone agrees it might be needed. The downside is, if people are not comfortable with the gear and able to adjust on the fly it could get pretty daunting too.
Good video Bob. I've said for a long time that digital can make you a target when everyone else is using FM. The point of using FM for most comms and digital when necessary is the way to go. I'd much rather have my regular comms mixed into the sea of Baofeng bucket mouths, maybe using some pre planned code phrases. Don't forget that even though you can't copy what is being said on digital with a regular FM radio, digital can still be Direction Found. This is a skill that will become very necessary when things go sideways. I think there is a lot more that can be said in future videos. How to use antennas such as a small yagi to cut down the number of people who can hear your longer range transmissions. Then there is Meshtastic. Great way to send texts with AES 256 encryption. Short bursts of spread spectrum in the 900 Mhz band. And you can set up a very wide area Mesh Network if you have the people in place. The use of HF with NVIS is also much harder to DF, and less people will be there to tune into you more localized comms. Not 100% reliable though. In any case, you must get out and use your radios. Find the limitations. What works, what does not. Can you make the contact you need to in the areas you will be operating in. If not, what will it take to make the contact. Maybe a roll up J Pole in a tree, maybe a portable yagi, UHF for a more compact antenna. . Maybe higher power. Maybe a different mode or band. Getting to higher ground. Having a yagi at both ends of the comms. Always use the least amount of power necessary to make the contact. Get away from your home or base when making contacts that are or sound anything different than the normal BS chatter, you don't want to be DF'ed. Make a radio plan and have a PACE plan in place. Being aware of the topography you are using your radio in. The more elevation you are at, the more people who will hear you. Radio is a fantastic way to communicate, but can fail you when you need it most. Planning and practice makes this less likely to happen. Thanks Bob ! Greetings from a Ret LEO from Kali who also moved to the free state of Idaho and loves being here. P.S. All you Kali transplants, be careful. Not all Republicans are real Republicans here. Find your Republican who runs and is a FREEDOM Candidate. We have a RINO problem in Idaho.
In what way does digital radio use "make you a target?" Isn't it far more likely to conceal you than reveal you? I suppose it is possible that someone is smart enough to figure out that little but of static when you start or stop transmitting is actually someone using digital radio, but then they would also need to have RDF equipment and go hunting for you. I feel it would be far more likely that you would simply be ignored, especially since radio interference is common and people are already used to ignoring it. Not to mention, someone using a scanner is highly unlikely to ever have their scanner make a stop on your frequency at the exact moment you start or stop a transmission, which would be the only time a simple scanner would pick it up (I'm not dealing with SDR's at all since the vast majority of adversaries don't even know what those are).
A couple other things to consider: frequency hopping used to really fool people, but now a $30 SDR can monitor a wide section of the band (if not the entire band) at once. It wouldn't take too much effort for when you say "switch to channel three" for an adversary to pick up on which frequency suddenly became active immediately afterwards. Additionally, even if they can't interpret your conversation, they can still triangulate your signal, which is a semi-popular sport in ham radio. So the best method of securing your comms is simply staying off of them except when necessary. I'm actually in the middle of writing a book as an introduction to communications and communications security for the preparedness community where I'll go in great depth on this topic.
Agree, but knowing that you could in theory make big skips (+10MHz) or even between uhf and VHF. Most SDRs (that I know of) have 10 or less MHz band to look at at any given time. Although, that being said, the scan function on SDRuno is very fast and can sweep large sections very quickly. I guess skipping between 2m, 1.25 and 70cm could still be somewhat effective.
Most SDR have 5-15Mhz bandwidth they can monitor at once. New Radios can use Bands from 137-600 or up to 1.2/2.4 GHz, so the next Channel can be on a different band or out of band. Also, using audio coupled AES digital mode, the transmission is basically short bursts, that are easy missed by scanners
@@brazoon1 You are missing the point which is that frequency hopping is not an effective technique against eavesdropping in 2024. It matters not one bit whether this sdr or that sdr can or cannot do it. There is shit out there that can, easily.
@@rfcdgaf "There is shit out there that can, easily." What's it called, how much does it cost and how available is it? Frequency hopping in and of itself might be of limited value if you are gabbing all day about useless matters on the same set frequencies. But if you maintain radio discipline, use established protocols, use lowest power necessary, terrain masking, directional antennas, Improvised repeaters etc. you will make it very hard for the average fox hunter. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if there was CIA level stuff that can pin point you from outer space. But a few neighbors or preppers spotting for looters/marauders etc. aren't likely to be a valuable enough target to warrant that kind of attention. But if you're aware of something that I'm not then I look forward to learning something.
@@brazoon1most people don’t even have radios or think about also if your messing with someone who would out right hunt you down I think you have much larger issues by then since if they have that capability they likely have drone capability as well it’s just the nature of radios
Your suggestions are great. I have also planned to use digital voice if the SHTF happens. What we are doing is "technically" illegal, because our purpose is to obscure the contents of the information. Using code names is also illegal for the same reason. No one is going to care after ATSHTF. Until then I am just experimenting with digital radio. The other suggestions about SECCOM are also very good! However, remember digital modes are foolproof and they can still be RDF. But K6UDA suggestions about frequency hooping, low power, short xmits, etc will go a long way.
No more RDF of consequence... Welcome to the brave new world of drones. Now, the Directional Finding issues are moot. Drone replaces antenna hill. Short range drone repeater to 500 m AGL, mid range to 2000 m AGL, longer range to 4000 m AGL, all at random lat-long. For local comms, add in burst communications onboard the drone and digital scramble on top of prearranged code words on a mobile drone antenna/repeater, on a next TOT as a handshake, with fallback to comms plan. Can't be tracked, can't be broken. So let Elmer look for the antenna all he wants - it's constantly moving burst locations, times and altitudes. 😂 Now, Don't get me wrong. I believe all preppers should get a tech licence, look at it differently, (saturate the system) always be civil, and practice, practice, practice! But you did say when SHTF. Practice like you fight, and fight like you practice. 73.🫡
@@ItsEverythingElse the encryption being suggested is all public domain, which is why it's allowed. If it's a military picking it up, they'll definitely have the ability to decript D-Star, Fusion, etc.. You're not hiding from them, just other non-military people/groups. If you're using code words and stuff they'll probably just think it's cute. They're watching everything you do in high-def thermal imaging from 70,000ft anyway. The guy beside you won't know you farted, but they will.
lol people like him underestimate what can be done with current technology...his suggestions are the typical UA-cam rubbish pandering to the paranoid and gullible it's childish at best.
Also don't forget for los trans one time pad coupled with COFDMTV or other burst transmission to reduce traffic trans time. I would imagine this could be used on other bands as well when set up with your group.
I got both DSTAR and YSF. Planing on getting into DMR and others eventually. Packet and Data modes is another viable option as well. Some mobiles with crossband repeater capability is another great asset to have.
Well said my brother!! Great video. I use D-STAR on the Kenwood TH-D74 for the ability to use digital COMs on 1.25 meters. D-STAR on 220 MHz really keeps the prying ears at bay. LOL!!
G'day Bob. Another great video love ya work, our family ( who are all licensed ) have practiced tactical communications & telecommunications using not only using different digital modes but totally different bands including cross banding ( Tx'ing to a colleague using one digital mode on one band whilst they TX's back to you on a totally different band using a different digital digital mode all using the minimum power a (decreased foot print ) & if possible high gain small angle or radiation directional antennas " if going from from a Location to a location " this goes along way towards getting away from the SDR's, being an SDR user myself I know that none of the SDR's on the market can openly out of the box decode digital but instead use or relies on " hard to use decoding software. Even the best SDR setups with some of the best operators using the best equipment struggle to always decode in good clear quality digital comms, further more SDR's can only monitor at max a 10Mhz spread of spectrum at any one time so if for example they are speed scanning & you are cross banding ( to use a term ) between 2M's & 70cm's using say Dstar for the uplink & Fusion for the down link & every 1/2 hr you are frequency hopping & or changing digital modes including DMR & Apco just to name 2 of many for example you have a pretty good chance of staying off the radar. It's all about saying as little as possible as quick as possible using the minimum of power without actually saying anything that anyone can actually reference or understand, never refer to people as names or call signs, never refer to places as the place name or give any clues as to the location of the place. Also if the SHsTF not only do we have the above but we also have memorized places, roads & other things that OTA are just referred to as code phrases, Packet and Data modes are also good options if you have the ready hardware. You are absolutely on the money Bob when you say use the system or the mode that is least used in your area, here in Australia besides DMR, Dstar & Fusion we also have access to Apco, NXDN & Tetra the last 2 whilst not being impossible to decode are harder for SDR's to decode especially when you add the likes minimum of power, directional antennas, code phrases, keeping Tx's to a minimum ect, then there are they of us that are commercially licensed and have access to commercial radios' using commercially licensed frequencies licensed to other entities using commercial grade AES256 & more. With regards to DF'ing besides all the above including directional antennas, cross banding, minimizing your foot print & using different digital modes & frequencies if you have some smarts about you, you can also put your self in a position where you are scattering & or blocking your signal from a particular direction or directions maybe you can be behind a large tree or building where your signal is blocked from a particular directional, maybe you can be in a building of some type that lessens your signal or reflects or scatters your signal or maybe you can be in the lee or the low side of a large hill or mountain that again blocks your signal from a large portion of the compass. Just like @qinarizonaful below I'm also a commercial drone operator & are currently looking at various types of comms that can be quickly Tx'd to / from or through a drone to / from a location. The whole prepper thing is a bottomless well, in exercises we've done things like hike to a location, make our tactical comms & then quickly vanish again Love where this is going & being a part of the discussion,. Keep up the great video K6UDA & hope to have the pleasure of hearing you on the air one day & Chatting OTA. Rgs Wayne VK3ECS
This is called "Security by Obscurity", meaning that even though its encoded digital voice its obscure to the average person. Of course anyone that knows what they are doing can decode the 'encoding' and listen in because its not truly encrypted...but its the best we get in ham radio...73s
I was going to say the same, but you got in faster....😊 Encoding is the way you arrange the information (voice or else) onto the radio wave. That's legal and normal (the encoding must be known and pre-aproved). Obscuring is to make it harder or impossible to others to understand the real meaning of what you are saying....and that's illegal for hams. Encryption is to make it impossible (or to dificult to be practical) to extract the content of the comms (could be by tech means or special language ways). There is also Low Profile, when you use regular networks posing as a taxi or commercial network but you can use it instantly at special ocasions.... And LPD (Low Probabily of Detection), by using super-low power maybe with added direccional antennas to make it more dificult to "sense", and very unexpected less monitored frequencies (1280 MHz SSB is a good legal exemple, or 650 MHz illegal). Some legal systems (900 MHz, 2,4 GHz, etc) can be very discrete for some purposes. Manual frequency jumps (legal) can be a nuisance to low quality bad guys trying to gather inteligence. (Illegal) AES encryption on DMR can stop non mil listeners. For discrete HF operation only with scrambled voice FH analog hiding among milions of HF transmissions (digital types have a distinct waveform that will arise suspiction). In SHTF situations legal matters will only target registed hams that will be banned from using their radios legally (as in WW II and Ukrane war).
@@korlilkatana7653 Not true. Encoding to digital data bursts compresses the signal. This is done for consolidation of frequencies. Encryption is to scramble the signal so that no one without the encryption code can receive the information.
Another video with excellent info. I've done what you have suggested with Anytone ATD-878s in digital mode. the radio also offers several encryption modes. Good stuff.
Technically using digital modes is not encryption so it doesn’t violate FCC rules. It may obfuscate your communication from someone not capable of receiving them, but it isn’t encrypted.
Exactly. If 1000 people in a given area are listening to a frequency and only six can receive the information, it's effectively encrypted. without encryption.
Part 97 doesn't say encryption. It says obfuscation. You can use encryption as long as you make the plaintext available or provide the method and key. This also means if your intent is to obfuscate even if you are not encrypting you are in violation of Part 97.
Maybe in twin falls at your house the favorite is fusion. In South Eastern Idaho The favorite around here at my house is DMR. Don't know what the local club users prefer as their meeting is the same night/time as my Scottish Rite Lodge meeting. Don't think they even run a net anymore. But that is a good point. I picked Yeasu because that what alot of the ARES members were using. FT-897-D, FT-2980R, VX-8 Been eyeing an Icom7300 or the FT-??? something you recommended last year. I do like the bigger screens.
Question, sorry if this was covered and i missed it. Does the digital (or digital features) still work when the power is out? Are all those features available ht-to-ht or does it require a special repeater or base station?
Funny thing is, I just got a handful of Kenwood NX-300's for a steal. The 450-520mHz version even have a Part 95A(old GMRS) grant. Analog on GMRS only though, you can't use the NXDN digital mode or the scrambler. Sadly the 406-470mHz version doesn't have a 95A grant and I would NEVER use a radio like that on GMRS frequencies. I'm certainly not saving up for an NXR-810 repeater either...
We use Motorola XPR Radios both mobile and HTs, we have a lot of these radios about 30 XPR 4550 and 47 XPR 7550e, I have many of them in use with many of my GMRS friends and family. That all have the enhanced security encryption on all of these code plugs of all radios. They are my daily user radios by far for both GMRS and Ham. I have also programmed full FRS and GMRS freqs in all of the radios and many Ham repeater freqs. Many DMR stations and frequencies we use most all the time. DMR seems to be better, but we also change channels to go to analog when just chattering with no need for security. I have two commercial DMR repeaters out the and use them regularly. Too bad that GMRS cannot use DMR, such an outdated service and its rules are also not keeping up with the times.
So this is just me, maybe I'm wrong, I have a Multiple UV-5Rs.I can transmit and receive on 2Meter/70cm/1.25Meter/MURS/GMRS/Marine and receive NOAA, all for 22 bucks a piece. How is this not the best radio for SHFT?
It’s a fine little HT until shit gets real. Let me put I this way, I wouldn’t trust my life to a second or third tier firearm, plate set or water filter why would I trust my life and my families lives to literally the cheapest Chinese radio on the market?
Do you want to find out the hard way that the Chinese radios can short the battery remotely and blow your lips off when they decide they don't like us anymore?😂
Plenty of digital modes out there (old ones) like ophelia hardly used no one has running 24/7 monitoring all frequencies. You could use one of them to do communiques on hf
Another option... Retevis RA-25 is a moble radio with a scramble feature. Obviously using scramble is illegal... BUT during SHTF, FCC laws won't be as valid. The Retevis also accepts GMRS/FRS/MURS/ETC. as well as 2meter/70cm. Again not saying this is legal, but will be additional tools in the SHTF toolbox.
I suggest trying a Baofeng DM-1701 and flash it with opengd-77. I spent too much time and frustration with codeplugs by trying to download one that was already written. Actually, there are a few videos that show how to build one from scratch. After following the videos, I was able to write and understand codeplugs in a short time. Simplex is really easy as much of the complexity is repeater talk groups. Nice thing is that you can easily set up both digital and analog modes as different channels and easily switch between them. They are reasonably well built and cost about 90 dollars.
Retevis rt87 had voice scrambler function as does their ra89 BUT those models scrambler functions aren’t compatible so you’d need a couple rt87’s or a couple ra89’s for it to work. Still tho, good quality radios worth the money
If they are on the same frequency, have the same CTCSS code on and are within range of your transmitter, YES They can. Remove one of the three requirements and then NO.
No need to know slot, color code or group. Most chinese DMR radios you just input frequency and open the squelch. Will decode audio and show CC, group, IDs...
I really enjoy your presentations and learn something every time, BUT lol You do not need need a license for CB but do need one for GMRS. The GMRS license is a one time purchase and allows your entire household to operate legally.
I am first not disagreeing with you on the Baofeng's however; many of us operate on a much lower budget. Example- I have many decades experience with the AR platform. I would NEVER buy the high end/highly publicized/expensive AR's some advocate. When I have seen a good trait in one...I simply add it to my builds...in some manner. MOST never make the grade. MOST are bells and whistles people don't need. Having said that I don't buy the high end anything. That unfortunately includes radios. For that reason I am here viewing sites like yours to take those rigs to a higher level. A recent Baofeng add-on is the shroud being made in Kansas to prevent the operating from knocking "off channel" or accidentally keying up. It seems to be worthwhile... I would give it a few more months of trial for me to be sure...before I add to other radios. At this point he only makes for the UV-5R and UV-82's. The UV-9R and newer UV-21 Pro are out of luck. BTW- the larger screen on the UV-21 is beneficial for field programming, which avoids someone else accessing your radio and getting all your "pre-programmed" freqs. Think like an indig guerrilla might have to... I do keep extra radios [Baofeng's more easily damaged]. Even if one radio is damaged, if fielding a team of say five for security checks for your neighbors they will still have four operating personal radios and a manpack. In the meantime, yes I will have to use Baofeng's...unless I have a windfall winning the lottery or some such pipe dream. This is a very beneficial area you are in today, please continue. The alternate techniques you are presenting are necessary. Carry on...
Good advise to spend good money on good comms... I just cant understand the concept of everyone in the US wanting to be a Rambo prepper. Down here, its hardly a thing to be a prepper. Lol The cheapest real approved encryption here is to buy a private frequency for your State only or Nation wide. Not too expensive but you'll need to buy proper commercial radios up front.
Bob, love ur stuff!!! You should do a video on HF ALE, not used much in ham radio, but a great SHFT scenario with the correct backbone. Even though I'm a ham and run a Flex 6400, Yaesu FT 991A, IC705, I also run a Icom IC-F8101 commercial HF radio for work with ALE.
Encoding is the way you arrange the information (voice or else) onto the radio wave. That's legal and normal (the encoding must be known and pre-aproved). Obscuring is to make it harder or impossible to others to understand the real meaning of what you are saying....and that's illegal for hams. Encryption is to make it impossible (or too dificult to be practical) to extract the content of the comms (could be by tech means or special language ways). There is also Low Profile, when you use regular networks posing as a taxi or commercial network but you can use it instantly at special ocasions.... And LPD (Low Probabily of Detection), by using super-low power maybe with added direccional antennas to make it more dificult to "sense", and very unexpected less monitored frequencies (1280 MHz SSB is a good legal exemple, or 650 MHz illegal). Some legal systems (900 MHz, 2,4 GHz, etc) can be very discrete for some purposes. Manual frequency jumps (legal) can be a nuisance to low quality bad guys trying to gather inteligence. (Illegal) AES encryption on DMR can stop non mil listeners. For discrete HF operation only with scrambled voice FH analog hiding among milions of HF transmissions (digital types have a distinct waveform that will arise suspiction). In SHTF situations, legal matters will only target registed hams that will be banned from using their radios legally (as in WW II and Ukrane war).
@@K6UDA This relies on the assumption that your adversary only has a $20 radio, no SDR and limited knowledge. The data / voice is going out there. Obviously if they are sophisticated they can just DF you too and use rubber-hose technique/cryptanalysis or worse. Who is the threat actor in your situation in Idaho?
the prohibition on codes and/or encryption is a great example of a rule without a legitimate purpose. Nobody has a right to understand what someone else is saying. BTW, Rugged Radios are a steaming pile of dog squeeze...rebranded Baofengs
There is no prohibition on encryption. There is a prohibition on obfuscation. You can encrypt. Just provide the plaintext or the method and key. You can be running unencrypted but obfuscating deliberately and you're in violation of Part 97.
@@major__kong Oh, this is getting sooo old. There IS a prohibition on encryption. You can only use it on commercial frequencies, with an entitlement key. You are talking about ENCODING. That is not even close to the same thing.
DSTAR uses internet and is designed to be used with internet which is stupid because the whole point of HF is it independence. @@tomservo4864 might as well just get on IRC no need for expensive HF terminals with clunky interfaces.
Seems bad guys have no budget, good guys, however, end up with a uv-5r because they are societies scorn and thus poor. Of course such generalizations and assumptions of things is a bad idea.
47 CFR 97 no where prohibits encryption. What it prevents is encoding a message to obscure it's meaning. Just like D-Star, DMR, and C4FM are publicly available and don't violate this rule, you can encrypt and not violate part 97 by publishing plaintext or providing the method and key. The flip side is, you may not be encrypting, but if you are encoding to obfuscate, for example using code phrases, you are in violation of Part 97.
You said it yourself, you are only as good as your weakest piece of equipment. Please at least put an sig Romeo on that AR. A optic is literally what lets you hit what you’re aiming at. At least get something that isn’t not airsoft quality. Good stuff though!!
On my battle rifle? I’ve got an eotech with a flip out 4x magnifier. It’s been on my rifle for 20 years and has been through battles, riding in a patrol car for years, probably more 20k training rounds through it and the eotech has been a stud.
Or, if you had a couple brain cells to rub together, you could have guessed that he was talking about digital voice encoding. You also could have watched the video before commenting.
1. You're a cop 2. Have a gadsden flag (😂😂😂) 3. Says you aren't advocating breaking the law... You're literally who we're trying to avoid being treaded on by. Jesus you're dense. Cool video, though.
You know, there are good honest constitutional cops out there. If every cop in america or even a state were just jack booted thugs then law enforcement wouldn't work. LE in the USA is based on the consent of the population to exist.
@@K6UDAwell if humanity ever went that South ,I would personally not want to be around. But each to there own I guess, just hope you can find somewhere to charge it.😊
Welcome to the brave new world of drones. Now, the Directional Finding issues are moot. Drone replaces antenna hill. Short range drone repeater to 500 m AGL, mid range to 2000 m AGL, longer range to 4000 m AGL, all at random lat-long. For local comms, add in burst communications onboard the drone and digital scramble on top of prearranged code words on a mobile drone antenna/repeater, on a next TOT as a handshake, with fallback to comms plan. Can't be tracked, can't be broken. So let Elmer look for the antenna all he wants - it's constantly moving burst locations, times and altitudes. 😂 Now, Don't get me wrong. I believe all preppers should get a tech license, look at it differently, (saturate the system) always be civil, and practice, practice, practice! But you did say when SHTF. Practice like you fight, and fight like you practice. I appreciate your channel, subscribed. 73.🫡
You should really reduce your power before you reduce your antenna. There is no downside to cutting your power output if your intended recipient can get your message.
Antenna matters more than output power
@@EUROPAONTOP how so?
Just saw this today, good advice. Similar to things we were taught in the Army, where we did have code keys we could use depending on the comms plan. If someone can not afford the higher end gear, another thing you mentioned would be ideal and we used it all the time to piss off the Range cadre and OPFOR when we were in the box at training areas. Before we would head to the field, the Squad Leaders and Comms NCO would meet up with the Platoon leader and Sgt. to create what we called at the time 'burst messages' simple one letter and numbers to just say in a few seconds on the radio, in the clear, that would not mean anything to anyone with out our date/time cards we made up. We would change up every 24 hours, or if someone was compromised by being made a POW by the range staff, we had a special code only we knew in our heads so we could change up the current card in use and no one would know we swapped out what was working just a little while ago. You can go deep into it,as you said, if everyone agrees it might be needed. The downside is, if people are not comfortable with the gear and able to adjust on the fly it could get pretty daunting too.
Good video Bob. I've said for a long time that digital can make you a target when everyone else is using FM. The point of using FM for most comms and digital when necessary is the way to go. I'd much rather have my regular comms mixed into the sea of Baofeng bucket mouths, maybe using some pre planned code phrases. Don't forget that even though you can't copy what is being said on digital with a regular FM radio, digital can still be Direction Found. This is a skill that will become very necessary when things go sideways. I think there is a lot more that can be said in future videos. How to use antennas such as a small yagi to cut down the number of people who can hear your longer range transmissions. Then there is Meshtastic. Great way to send texts with AES 256 encryption. Short bursts of spread spectrum in the 900 Mhz band. And you can set up a very wide area Mesh Network if you have the people in place. The use of HF with NVIS is also much harder to DF, and less people will be there to tune into you more localized comms. Not 100% reliable though. In any case, you must get out and use your radios. Find the limitations. What works, what does not. Can you make the contact you need to in the areas you will be operating in. If not, what will it take to make the contact. Maybe a roll up J Pole in a tree, maybe a portable yagi, UHF for a more compact antenna. . Maybe higher power. Maybe a different mode or band. Getting to higher ground. Having a yagi at both ends of the comms. Always use the least amount of power necessary to make the contact. Get away from your home or base when making contacts that are or sound anything different than the normal BS chatter, you don't want to be DF'ed. Make a radio plan and have a PACE plan in place. Being aware of the topography you are using your radio in. The more elevation you are at, the more people who will hear you. Radio is a fantastic way to communicate, but can fail you when you need it most. Planning and practice makes this less likely to happen. Thanks Bob ! Greetings from a Ret LEO from Kali who also moved to the free state of Idaho and loves being here. P.S. All you Kali transplants, be careful. Not all Republicans are real Republicans here. Find your Republican who runs and is a FREEDOM Candidate. We have a RINO problem in Idaho.
Thank you. Well said. The only thing I would add for people is practice, practice, practice. Push your limits.
In what way does digital radio use "make you a target?" Isn't it far more likely to conceal you than reveal you? I suppose it is possible that someone is smart enough to figure out that little but of static when you start or stop transmitting is actually someone using digital radio, but then they would also need to have RDF equipment and go hunting for you. I feel it would be far more likely that you would simply be ignored, especially since radio interference is common and people are already used to ignoring it. Not to mention, someone using a scanner is highly unlikely to ever have their scanner make a stop on your frequency at the exact moment you start or stop a transmission, which would be the only time a simple scanner would pick it up (I'm not dealing with SDR's at all since the vast majority of adversaries don't even know what those are).
A couple other things to consider: frequency hopping used to really fool people, but now a $30 SDR can monitor a wide section of the band (if not the entire band) at once. It wouldn't take too much effort for when you say "switch to channel three" for an adversary to pick up on which frequency suddenly became active immediately afterwards. Additionally, even if they can't interpret your conversation, they can still triangulate your signal, which is a semi-popular sport in ham radio. So the best method of securing your comms is simply staying off of them except when necessary. I'm actually in the middle of writing a book as an introduction to communications and communications security for the preparedness community where I'll go in great depth on this topic.
Agree, but knowing that you could in theory make big skips (+10MHz) or even between uhf and VHF. Most SDRs (that I know of) have 10 or less MHz band to look at at any given time. Although, that being said, the scan function on SDRuno is very fast and can sweep large sections very quickly. I guess skipping between 2m, 1.25 and 70cm could still be somewhat effective.
Most SDR have 5-15Mhz bandwidth they can monitor at once. New Radios can use Bands from 137-600 or up to 1.2/2.4 GHz, so the next Channel can be on a different band or out of band.
Also, using audio coupled AES digital mode, the transmission is basically short bursts, that are easy missed by scanners
@@brazoon1 You are missing the point which is that frequency hopping is not an effective technique against eavesdropping in 2024. It matters not one bit whether this sdr or that sdr can or cannot do it. There is shit out there that can, easily.
@@rfcdgaf "There is shit out there that can, easily."
What's it called, how much does it cost and how available is it?
Frequency hopping in and of itself might be of limited value if you are gabbing all day about useless matters on the same set frequencies. But if you maintain radio discipline, use established protocols, use lowest power necessary, terrain masking, directional antennas, Improvised repeaters etc. you will make it very hard for the average fox hunter.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if there was CIA level stuff that can pin point you from outer space. But a few neighbors or preppers spotting for looters/marauders etc. aren't likely to be a valuable enough target to warrant that kind of attention.
But if you're aware of something that I'm not then I look forward to learning something.
@@brazoon1most people don’t even have radios or think about also if your messing with someone who would out right hunt you down I think you have much larger issues by then since if they have that capability they likely have drone capability as well it’s just the nature of radios
Good Video. You're giving nothing away really. Lots of youtubers have "spilled the beans" on "how to tactical".
Your suggestions are great. I have also planned to use digital voice if the SHTF happens. What we are doing is "technically" illegal, because our purpose is to obscure the contents of the information. Using code names is also illegal for the same reason. No one is going to care after ATSHTF. Until then I am just experimenting with digital radio.
The other suggestions about SECCOM are also very good! However, remember digital modes are foolproof and they can still be RDF. But K6UDA suggestions about frequency hooping, low power, short xmits, etc will go a long way.
No more RDF of consequence...
Welcome to the brave new world of drones. Now, the Directional Finding issues are moot. Drone replaces antenna hill. Short range drone repeater to 500 m AGL, mid range to 2000 m AGL, longer range to 4000 m AGL, all at random lat-long. For local comms, add in burst communications onboard the drone and digital scramble on top of prearranged code words on a mobile drone antenna/repeater, on a next TOT as a handshake, with fallback to comms plan. Can't be tracked, can't be broken. So let Elmer look for the antenna all he wants - it's constantly moving burst locations, times and altitudes. 😂 Now, Don't get me wrong. I believe all preppers should get a tech licence, look at it differently, (saturate the system) always be civil, and practice, practice, practice! But you did say when SHTF. Practice like you fight, and fight like you practice. 73.🫡
There will be certain entities that absolutely care if they are picking up encrypted transmissions during World War III.
@@ItsEverythingElse the encryption being suggested is all public domain, which is why it's allowed. If it's a military picking it up, they'll definitely have the ability to decript D-Star, Fusion, etc.. You're not hiding from them, just other non-military people/groups. If you're using code words and stuff they'll probably just think it's cute. They're watching everything you do in high-def thermal imaging from 70,000ft anyway. The guy beside you won't know you farted, but they will.
lol people like him underestimate what can be done with current technology...his suggestions are the typical UA-cam rubbish pandering to the paranoid and gullible it's childish at best.
@@germanjohn5626That pretty much covers the prepper community! A bunch of GI Joe wannabes and mental cases. Very sad!
CW and a one-time pad will beat all these solutions. Thanks for your content.
Also don't forget for los trans one time pad coupled with COFDMTV or other burst transmission to reduce traffic trans time. I would imagine this could be used on other bands as well when set up with your group.
@@bradmeyer7612 Burst is a thought I hadn't considered... thanks for that comment.
Anytone 878 $220
tyt md-uv390 plus (New model) $120
Both aes-256 encrypted dual band hard to beat for the $
Great video! I really enjoy your videos about comms for preppers.
Great topic! Looking forward to more content like this in the future!
Good job Bob. Thanks for sharing your top secret stuff with us.
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Hayden Leslie Panettiere.
Thanks for sharing your info Bob.
I got both DSTAR and YSF. Planing on getting into DMR and others eventually. Packet and Data modes is another viable option as well. Some mobiles with crossband repeater capability is another great asset to have.
Well said my brother!! Great video. I use D-STAR on the Kenwood TH-D74 for the ability to use digital COMs on 1.25 meters. D-STAR on 220 MHz really keeps the prying ears at bay. LOL!!
G'day Bob.
Another great video love ya work, our family ( who are all licensed ) have practiced tactical communications & telecommunications using not only using different digital modes but totally different bands including cross banding ( Tx'ing to a colleague using one digital mode on one band whilst they TX's back to you on a totally different band using a different digital digital mode all using the minimum power a (decreased foot print ) & if possible high gain small angle or radiation directional antennas " if going from from a Location to a location " this goes along way towards getting away from the SDR's, being an SDR user myself I know that none of the SDR's on the market can openly out of the box decode digital but instead use or relies on " hard to use decoding software.
Even the best SDR setups with some of the best operators using the best equipment struggle to always decode in good clear quality digital comms, further more SDR's can only monitor at max a 10Mhz spread of spectrum at any one time so if for example they are speed scanning & you are cross banding ( to use a term ) between 2M's & 70cm's using say Dstar for the uplink & Fusion for the down link & every 1/2 hr you are frequency hopping & or changing digital modes including DMR & Apco just to name 2 of many for example you have a pretty good chance of staying off the radar.
It's all about saying as little as possible as quick as possible using the minimum of power without actually saying anything that anyone can actually reference or understand, never refer to people as names or call signs, never refer to places as the place name or give any clues as to the location of the place.
Also if the SHsTF not only do we have the above but we also have memorized places, roads & other things that OTA are just referred to as code phrases, Packet and Data modes are also good options if you have the ready hardware.
You are absolutely on the money Bob when you say use the system or the mode that is least used in your area, here in Australia besides DMR, Dstar & Fusion we also have access to Apco, NXDN & Tetra the last 2 whilst not being impossible to decode are harder for SDR's to decode especially when you add the likes minimum of power, directional antennas, code phrases, keeping Tx's to a minimum ect, then there are they of us that are commercially licensed and have access to commercial radios' using commercially licensed frequencies licensed to other entities using commercial grade AES256 & more.
With regards to DF'ing besides all the above including directional antennas, cross banding, minimizing your foot print & using different digital modes & frequencies if you have some smarts about you, you can also put your self in a position where you are scattering & or blocking your signal from a particular direction or directions maybe you can be behind a large tree or building where your signal is blocked from a particular directional, maybe you can be in a building of some type that lessens your signal or reflects or scatters your signal or maybe you can be in the lee or the low side of a large hill or mountain that again blocks your signal from a large portion of the compass.
Just like @qinarizonaful below I'm also a commercial drone operator & are currently looking at various types of comms that can be quickly Tx'd to / from or through a drone to / from a location.
The whole prepper thing is a bottomless well, in exercises we've done things like hike to a location, make our tactical comms & then quickly vanish again
Love where this is going & being a part of the discussion,.
Keep up the great video K6UDA & hope to have the pleasure of hearing you on the air one day & Chatting OTA.
Rgs
Wayne VK3ECS
I point out that D-Star, C4FM, DMR are all forms of ***ENCODING*** and NOT encryption.
Just a different legal interpretation, and I use encoding in some form every single day. :)
This is called "Security by Obscurity", meaning that even though its encoded digital voice its obscure to the average person. Of course anyone that knows what they are doing can decode the 'encoding' and listen in because its not truly encrypted...but its the best we get in ham radio...73s
I was going to say the same, but you got in faster....😊
Encoding is the way you arrange the information (voice or else) onto the radio wave. That's legal and normal (the encoding must be known and pre-aproved).
Obscuring is to make it harder or impossible to others to understand the real meaning of what you are saying....and that's illegal for hams.
Encryption is to make it impossible (or to dificult to be practical) to extract the content of the comms (could be by tech means or special language ways).
There is also Low Profile, when you use regular networks posing as a taxi or commercial network but you can use it instantly at special ocasions....
And LPD (Low Probabily of Detection), by using super-low power maybe with added direccional antennas to make it more dificult to "sense", and very unexpected less monitored frequencies (1280 MHz SSB is a good legal exemple, or 650 MHz illegal).
Some legal systems (900 MHz, 2,4 GHz, etc) can be very discrete for some purposes.
Manual frequency jumps (legal) can be a nuisance to low quality bad guys trying to gather inteligence.
(Illegal) AES encryption on DMR can stop non mil listeners.
For discrete HF operation only with scrambled voice FH analog hiding among milions of HF transmissions (digital types have a distinct waveform that will arise suspiction).
In SHTF situations legal matters will only target registed hams that will be banned from using their radios legally (as in WW II and Ukrane war).
@@korlilkatana7653 Not true. Encoding to digital data bursts compresses the signal. This is done for consolidation of frequencies.
Encryption is to scramble the signal so that no one without the encryption code can receive the information.
@@korlilkatana7653Wrong. The difference is technical. Using 'encryption' to describe encoding is misleading or outright lying.
Thanks Bob! You are the man! Thanks for the tips.
Another video with excellent info. I've done what you have suggested with Anytone ATD-878s in digital mode. the radio also offers several encryption modes. Good stuff.
Technically using digital modes is not encryption so it doesn’t violate FCC rules. It may obfuscate your communication from someone not capable of receiving them, but it isn’t encrypted.
Exactly. If 1000 people in a given area are listening to a frequency and only six can receive the information, it's effectively encrypted. without encryption.
Part 97 doesn't say encryption. It says obfuscation. You can use encryption as long as you make the plaintext available or provide the method and key. This also means if your intent is to obfuscate even if you are not encrypting you are in violation of Part 97.
@@K6UDA Encryption is not encoding. Don't start word games. We have entirely too much of that shit already.
Lots of good tips. Thanks, Bob!
The Kenwood D-74 does D-Star on 6 meters....now that is unique to most radios!!
How many radiosTX and receive D* on 6M??????
Yaesu 991A is similiar for C4FM.
Maybe in twin falls at your house the favorite is fusion. In South Eastern Idaho The favorite around here at my house is DMR. Don't know what the local club users prefer as their meeting is the same night/time as my Scottish Rite Lodge meeting. Don't think they even run a net anymore. But that is a good point. I picked Yeasu because that what alot of the ARES members were using. FT-897-D, FT-2980R, VX-8 Been eyeing an Icom7300 or the FT-??? something you recommended last year. I do like the bigger screens.
Bring in a raspberry Pi expert to discuss how to encrypt with the unit and burst transmission
Question, sorry if this was covered and i missed it. Does the digital (or digital features) still work when the power is out? Are all those features available ht-to-ht or does it require a special repeater or base station?
For a guy planning to move to Boise, is there more action on Fusion or DStar?
I know there’s plenty of activity on fusion.
Funny thing is, I just got a handful of Kenwood NX-300's for a steal. The 450-520mHz version even have a Part 95A(old GMRS) grant. Analog on GMRS only though, you can't use the NXDN digital mode or the scrambler. Sadly the 406-470mHz version doesn't have a 95A grant and I would NEVER use a radio like that on GMRS frequencies. I'm certainly not saving up for an NXR-810 repeater either...
Very good advice, thanks
A great reason to keep my Icom in a Yeasu heavy area. Thanks padnuh.
can you use encryption on C4FM ? I know DMR has option for encryption
thanks
We use Motorola XPR Radios both mobile and HTs, we have a lot of these radios about 30 XPR 4550 and 47 XPR 7550e, I have many of them in use with many of my GMRS friends and family.
That all have the enhanced security encryption on all of these code plugs of all radios.
They are my daily user radios by far for both GMRS and Ham.
I have also programmed full FRS and GMRS freqs in all of the radios and many Ham repeater freqs.
Many DMR stations and frequencies we use most all the time. DMR seems to be better, but we also change channels to go to analog when just chattering with no need for security.
I have two commercial DMR repeaters out the and use them regularly. Too bad that GMRS cannot use DMR, such an outdated service and its rules are also not keeping up with the times.
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Something to consider, depending on who your "adversary" is, being the only people using digital signals in the area might not be a good idea.
+@BillyBob-bd1hj the beauty is you can switch back to analog in a second.
Also... if real SHTF FCC lets anyone transmit for emergencies... and with all heck breaking loose, they won't have time to deal with it anyway.
Does DStar bounce like 10 meter? Distance on simplex? Power goes out and family is 100 plus miles away? What would you use ?
D-star doesn't bounce. It's just a mode, not a band like 10m.
If I need to I'll hook wires x on to my mesh ham radio network. Still ham frequencies just on my own network with other people.
So this is just me, maybe I'm wrong, I have a Multiple UV-5Rs.I can transmit and receive on 2Meter/70cm/1.25Meter/MURS/GMRS/Marine and receive NOAA, all for 22 bucks a piece. How is this not the best radio for SHFT?
It’s a fine little HT until shit gets real. Let me put I this way, I wouldn’t trust my life to a second or third tier firearm, plate set or water filter why would I trust my life and my families lives to literally the cheapest Chinese radio on the market?
Do you want to find out the hard way that the Chinese radios can short the battery remotely and blow your lips off when they decide they don't like us anymore?😂
Plenty of digital modes out there (old ones) like ophelia hardly used no one has running 24/7 monitoring all frequencies. You could use one of them to do communiques on hf
Nice job explaining digital radio. To be clear. Digital transmision is encoding, not encrypting. 2 very different things.
Good vid
73 from Boise
fight in the shade
Kekistani Liberation Army - I also fight in the shade
Talk about very long range like HF and what digital modes they have
Subscribed on rumble but can’t find this video
Another option... Retevis RA-25 is a moble radio with a scramble feature. Obviously using scramble is illegal... BUT during SHTF, FCC laws won't be as valid. The Retevis also accepts GMRS/FRS/MURS/ETC. as well as 2meter/70cm. Again not saying this is legal, but will be additional tools in the SHTF toolbox.
There is a reflash for the Quansheng UV-K5 to TX and RX text, it wouldnt be very secure but
it would certainly stump scanner listeners
This. The data burst is very short. Also, SMS on DMR on digital radios
I LIKED YOUR VIDEO AND THANKS FOR THE INFO. I LIKED AND SUBBED YOUR CHANNEL.
It's the deadliest superhero on the planet...Tactibob.
You can do DMR with encryption with a sub-$200 DMR radio. You'll still be able to be found with a Kraken SDR pretty quickly :)
Yes you can, I’m just not a huge fan of the cheap DMR radios. The fact that you have to build a codeplug is a huge turnoff for me.
I suggest trying a Baofeng DM-1701 and flash it with opengd-77. I spent too much time and frustration with codeplugs by trying to download one that was already written. Actually, there are a few videos that show how to build one from scratch. After following the videos, I was able to write and understand codeplugs in a short time. Simplex is really easy as much of the complexity is repeater talk groups. Nice thing is that you can easily set up both digital and analog modes as different channels and easily switch between them. They are reasonably well built and cost about 90 dollars.
Retevis rt87 had voice scrambler function as does their ra89 BUT those models scrambler functions aren’t compatible so you’d need a couple rt87’s or a couple ra89’s for it to work. Still tho, good quality radios worth the money
Quansheng UV K5 has 10 modes
RT 85 has 8 scramble modes, of which #8 is compatible with the RA89.
OK. Analog ham users cannot hear DMR signals. But can other DMR users, on the same frequency as yours, hear your DMR signal ?
If they are on the same frequency, have the same CTCSS code on and are within range of your transmitter, YES They can. Remove one of the three requirements and then NO.
No need to know slot, color code or group. Most chinese DMR radios you just input frequency and open the squelch. Will decode audio and show CC, group, IDs...
Good video I really enjoyed the content it covered a variety of important areas. We should set up a team.
Bottom line is practice^3!
I really enjoy your presentations and learn something every time, BUT lol You do not need need a license for CB but do need one for GMRS. The GMRS license is a one time purchase and allows your entire household to operate legally.
Up until this year CB was AM or SSB. Only one radio on the market with FM capabilities.
A GMRS license has to be repurchased every 10 years.
@@K6UDAFM on 11m is just a marketing ploy anyway! While it will cut down on noise, it won't do much of anything else.
I am first not disagreeing with you on the Baofeng's however; many of us operate on a much lower budget. Example- I have many decades experience with the AR platform. I would NEVER buy the high end/highly publicized/expensive AR's some advocate. When I have seen a good trait in one...I simply add it to my builds...in some manner. MOST never make the grade. MOST are bells and whistles people don't need. Having said that I don't buy the high end anything. That unfortunately includes radios. For that reason I am here viewing sites like yours to take those rigs to a higher level. A recent Baofeng add-on is the shroud being made in Kansas to prevent the operating from knocking "off channel" or accidentally keying up. It seems to be worthwhile... I would give it a few more months of trial for me to be sure...before I add to other radios. At this point he only makes for the UV-5R and UV-82's. The UV-9R and newer UV-21 Pro are out of luck. BTW- the larger screen on the UV-21 is beneficial for field programming, which avoids someone else accessing your radio and getting all your "pre-programmed" freqs. Think like an indig guerrilla might have to...
I do keep extra radios [Baofeng's more easily damaged]. Even if one radio is damaged, if fielding a team of say five for security checks for your neighbors they will still have four operating personal radios and a manpack. In the meantime, yes I will have to use Baofeng's...unless I have a windfall winning the lottery or some such pipe dream. This is a very beneficial area you are in today, please continue. The alternate techniques you are presenting are necessary. Carry on...
Good advise to spend good money on good comms... I just cant understand the concept of everyone in the US wanting to be a Rambo prepper. Down here, its hardly a thing to be a prepper. Lol
The cheapest real approved encryption here is to buy a private frequency for your State only or Nation wide. Not too expensive but you'll need to buy proper commercial radios up front.
Bob, love ur stuff!!! You should do a video on HF ALE, not used much in ham radio, but a great SHFT scenario with the correct backbone. Even though I'm a ham and run a Flex 6400, Yaesu FT 991A, IC705, I also run a Icom IC-F8101 commercial HF radio for work with ALE.
Encoding is the way you arrange the information (voice or else) onto the radio wave. That's legal and normal (the encoding must be known and pre-aproved).
Obscuring is to make it harder or impossible to others to understand the real meaning of what you are saying....and that's illegal for hams.
Encryption is to make it impossible (or too dificult to be practical) to extract the content of the comms (could be by tech means or special language ways).
There is also Low Profile, when you use regular networks posing as a taxi or commercial network but you can use it instantly at special ocasions....
And LPD (Low Probabily of Detection), by using super-low power maybe with added direccional antennas to make it more dificult to "sense", and very unexpected less monitored frequencies (1280 MHz SSB is a good legal exemple, or 650 MHz illegal).
Some legal systems (900 MHz, 2,4 GHz, etc) can be very discrete for some purposes.
Manual frequency jumps (legal) can be a nuisance to low quality bad guys trying to gather inteligence.
(Illegal) AES encryption on DMR can stop non mil listeners.
For discrete HF operation only with scrambled voice FH analog hiding among milions of HF transmissions (digital types have a distinct waveform that will arise suspiction).
In SHTF situations, legal matters will only target registed hams that will be banned from using their radios legally (as in WW II and Ukrane war).
So should you get the certificates or leave it? Hard to practice without them
I am going to m17 once they get a radio out with my group.
Absolute NEWBIE here.
Anyone in SWFL area??
I am missing the encryption part, because your digital transmission is not encrypted.
Exactly. But if all you have is a Baofeng it might as well be.
@@K6UDA This relies on the assumption that your adversary only has a $20 radio, no SDR and limited knowledge. The data / voice is going out there. Obviously if they are sophisticated they can just DF you too and use rubber-hose technique/cryptanalysis or worse. Who is the threat actor in your situation in Idaho?
@@K6UDA In this case, there are some very interesting options even if you have FM only but I cannot tell them in public.
@@BulletResistant our threat actors are the ones who made it of of Kalifornia and thought they’d r_pe and pillage thier way to safety.
Rumble sold out too. Sorry to tell you.
That’s why it’s good to have Motorolas with AES256. Only intended for a distinct scenario that may never occur. But it’s good to be prepared. 73
Even AES128 has never been cracked! A quantum computer would take 2.6 x 10¹² YEARS to crack AES128. So nothing but ... crickets.🦗🦗🦗
Not to mention it's transmitting in P25 which is less used than all the other modes.@@qinarizonaful
the prohibition on codes and/or encryption is a great example of a rule without a legitimate purpose. Nobody has a right to understand what someone else is saying. BTW, Rugged Radios are a steaming pile of dog squeeze...rebranded Baofengs
There is no prohibition on encryption. There is a prohibition on obfuscation. You can encrypt. Just provide the plaintext or the method and key. You can be running unencrypted but obfuscating deliberately and you're in violation of Part 97.
@@major__kong Oh, this is getting sooo old.
There IS a prohibition on encryption. You can only use it on commercial frequencies, with an entitlement key.
You are talking about ENCODING. That is not even close to the same thing.
DMR>DSTAR
Why?
DSTAR uses internet and is designed to be used with internet which is stupid because the whole point of HF is it independence. @@tomservo4864 might as well just get on IRC no need for expensive HF terminals with clunky interfaces.
Encryption over C4FM on a Yaesu would be awesome
Noice
Seems bad guys have no budget, good guys, however, end up with a uv-5r because they are societies scorn and thus poor. Of course such generalizations and assumptions of things is a bad idea.
You ask for a Patreon donation but don't provide a link ? SMH
more like this please
47 CFR 97 no where prohibits encryption. What it prevents is encoding a message to obscure it's meaning. Just like D-Star, DMR, and C4FM are publicly available and don't violate this rule, you can encrypt and not violate part 97 by publishing plaintext or providing the method and key. The flip side is, you may not be encrypting, but if you are encoding to obfuscate, for example using code phrases, you are in violation of Part 97.
The chair is against the wall. The chair is against the wall.
You said it yourself, you are only as good as your weakest piece of equipment. Please at least put an sig Romeo on that AR. A optic is literally what lets you hit what you’re aiming at. At least get something that isn’t not airsoft quality.
Good stuff though!!
On my battle rifle? I’ve got an eotech with a flip out 4x magnifier. It’s been on my rifle for 20 years and has been through battles, riding in a patrol car for years, probably more 20k training rounds through it and the eotech has been a stud.
@@K6UDA I was referring to the one that you held up. Have not seen the other rifle with an Eotech. Those are great for sure.
Guess its not against the law any more to encrypt ham ..cool 😊
Nobody cares.... that bullshit "law" only exists to keep you from having modern advantages that the enemies have.
Or, if you had a couple brain cells to rub together, you could have guessed that he was talking about digital voice encoding. You also could have watched the video before commenting.
Well I guess extra Licenses aren't what they used to be .. I was speaking Facetiously #Duh
1. You're a cop
2. Have a gadsden flag (😂😂😂)
3. Says you aren't advocating breaking the law...
You're literally who we're trying to avoid being treaded on by. Jesus you're dense. Cool video, though.
You know, there are good honest constitutional cops out there. If every cop in america or even a state were just jack booted thugs then law enforcement wouldn't work. LE in the USA is based on the consent of the population to exist.
Paranoid rubbish
And I think you’ve got your head buried in the sand.
@@K6UDAwell if humanity ever went that South ,I would personally not want to be around. But each to there own I guess, just hope you can find somewhere to charge it.😊
DSTAR - bingo lollipop. DSTAR on 220, ala THD74, even better!
And hopping.....don't forget the Kraken.
Great video! KN6EVQ
Welcome to the brave new world of drones. Now, the Directional Finding issues are moot. Drone replaces antenna hill. Short range drone repeater to 500 m AGL, mid range to 2000 m AGL, longer range to 4000 m AGL, all at random lat-long. For local comms, add in burst communications onboard the drone and digital scramble on top of prearranged code words on a mobile drone antenna/repeater, on a next TOT as a handshake, with fallback to comms plan. Can't be tracked, can't be broken. So let Elmer look for the antenna all he wants - it's constantly moving burst locations, times and altitudes. 😂 Now, Don't get me wrong. I believe all preppers should get a tech license, look at it differently, (saturate the system) always be civil, and practice, practice, practice! But you did say when SHTF. Practice like you fight, and fight like you practice. I appreciate your channel, subscribed. 73.🫡
Like minded here. KO4EMH
A good proposition? Really? You mean, being paranoid? Sounds pretty sad to me! 73 de kd7cjo