Government: Your brand new car needs to be this much safe. Me: Alright, I'm gonna drive this other car that is this much years older then. Government: Okay.
I find this law has nothing to do with safety and more to do with not affecting domestic car sales. How is a car from Japan less safe than in the States? And how does making it 25 years old automatically make it safe again? Just political and business nonsense. In Canada the rule is 15 Years which makes more sense. I agree it should never be zero years since i understand that could hurt domestic sales. But than again....it's annoying that we don't get many special editions like Japan does for Japanese cars.
@@steadyboost7 It was Mercedes back in the 80s who lobbied the 25 law, as there were still many grey imports on the market directly from Europe and MB USA thought it would hurt their sale.
Basically the US always had weird regulations like the 5 MPH crash test or the round headlights(crash test still exist, not the headlights), emission tests were more difficult to too so many engines were less powerful or simply not available. Also, all of the modifications were very costly and the cars would end up being more expensive than their euro counterparts. And because manufacturers were always designing their cars for their home market first and then would make them US compliant, people started importing euro cars without making them US compliant.
It has a lot to do with difference things.. I read Japanese cars have difference glass and not the normal laminated safety glass, and something to do with the bumpers and turn signals. Also JDM cars have little no NO emission devices such as smog pumps, EGR’s, PCV’s and a lot of JDM cars didn’t even come with Evap systems.. those are all things USA cars need to be sold in the USA
Quick expansion on what was discussed: The "25 year rule" actually encapsulates 2 federal exemptions. 21 years for Federal emissions (EPA) exemption 25 years for Federal Safety (DOT/NHTSA) exemption These exemptions are noted on forms that are filled when importing a vehicle. On a State level, states can have separate emissions regulations; California is the most notoriously difficult with this. California requires Direct Imports 1968 and newer to undergo lab testing and bring the vehicle to California emissions compliance. This process can cost about mid thousands for kei cars and standard non turbo cars. And about 10k give or take for something like a GT-R.
The 25yo law is only because local used car dealerships complained because back in the day Americans try to capitalize on a AT non Turbo Supra for 40k while you was able to able to have a low mileage Turbo 6 speed Supra for only 14k from Japan lol (just an easy exemple) but this is basically the real reason! Import were son,inch cleaner and cheaper than local... also old Japanese car were so much more reliable than any brand new American car rubish lol
This is what I love about the UK. We can import most cars. As long as they comply woth emmisions of their time relevant to UK specs and all the lights work, we're good. US cars tend to be the hardest due to how tou have your lights setup.
I believe the lights are not panned in the angle needed to drive on UK roads. No? I'm sure this may not be such an issue today with cars that are on a global platforms perhaps. I also love your license plate system in the UK. Pretty cool. It just transfers over with the next owner?
@@mildmanneredthinkingman9323 You are almost correct about lights. In the USA, the indicators (blinkers) are sometimes built into the brake light which is a big no no in the UK as our indicators have to be separate and amber in colour. We don't have licence plates, we have number plates which stay with the vehicle through out its life (unless due to extraordinary circumstances) . What you may be thinking of is a personalised number plate which can be transferred from car to car but it can be a very complicated system to work out unless you know it well already.
wait, so all the gtr's people are driving round america these days still have RHD headlights? Seems like a fast way to make your whole town hate you haha
It’s easy to buy a jdm car in California. Fork over the cash to the shop that has one, they cover the title and reg and smog for you. Money talks bullshit walks 😀
Easy, If you live in California yourself, You probably have family or friends in other states, Register it on their address, boom no need to comply with all this California crap. I know you’ll probably have issues with cops with out of state plates but for sure if you have this kind of car or any import or a project car you probably won’t drive it daily.
If you’re in Cali just avoid the headaches. Heard the process is long and it ain’t cheap. Gotta pay anywhere from $5-10k on top of price of vehicle to hopefully it’ll pass dumbass Cali smog regulations.
I’ve always wondered (and pardon my extreme ignorance here,) why don’t some of these importers move one state over and override some of these crazy California regulations? Wouldn’t you make a little more money on sales?
It doesn't matter where the importer is. What matters is where the car is going to be registered. California has crazy emissions standards because of how bad the air quality was here before CARB existed. I'm talking people weren't going to school or work because you couldn't open your eyes or breath the air due to the smog. There are probably enough cars in California alone to cover everyone in the Midwest to own one. Throw that on top of people getting rid of emissions equipment and you'd have a re-do of the 70s. The emissions stuff aside, you still gotta pay California if you want to register the car here, and it's like $10,000 on top of whatever you bought the car for. It isn't a fun system, but as long as you have enough money as a customer you can pull it off. It doesn't affect the business because they're just holding the inventory. California, like a lot of places, will let you do whatever you want as long as you pay the right government agencies.
As someone that lives in Japan. We hate it all the cars are going off shore and killing the scene here. What was once a 10k R32 GTR is now a 40k car (with the same rust) hense why most young people are loosing interest and buying Kei Cars.
You have to blame the fact that our 25 year rule along with manufacturers not wanting to spend millions in R&D to bring their overseas exclusive cars up to US compliance, and you get generations of people who want a car they weren’t originally allowed to have but only able to experience via movies and video games. That’s why it’s the way it is.
Government: Your brand new car needs to be this much safe.
Me: Alright, I'm gonna drive this other car that is this much years older then.
Government: Okay.
I find this law has nothing to do with safety and more to do with not affecting domestic car sales. How is a car from Japan less safe than in the States? And how does making it 25 years old automatically make it safe again? Just political and business nonsense. In Canada the rule is 15 Years which makes more sense. I agree it should never be zero years since i understand that could hurt domestic sales. But than again....it's annoying that we don't get many special editions like Japan does for Japanese cars.
My best guess is the people who lobbied and got this passed figured no one would want a 25 year old car.
@@steadyboost7 It was Mercedes back in the 80s who lobbied the 25 law, as there were still many grey imports on the market directly from Europe and MB USA thought it would hurt their sale.
Basically the US always had weird regulations like the 5 MPH crash test or the round headlights(crash test still exist, not the headlights), emission tests were more difficult to too so many engines were less powerful or simply not available. Also, all of the modifications were very costly and the cars would end up being more expensive than their euro counterparts.
And because manufacturers were always designing their cars for their home market first and then would make them US compliant, people started importing euro cars without making them US compliant.
It has a lot to do with difference things.. I read Japanese cars have difference glass and not the normal laminated safety glass, and something to do with the bumpers and turn signals. Also JDM cars have little no NO emission devices such as smog pumps, EGR’s, PCV’s and a lot of JDM cars didn’t even come with Evap systems.. those are all things USA cars need to be sold in the USA
@@IntegraDIY No metal cross-members in bumpers.
Quick expansion on what was discussed:
The "25 year rule" actually encapsulates 2 federal exemptions.
21 years for Federal emissions (EPA) exemption
25 years for Federal Safety (DOT/NHTSA) exemption
These exemptions are noted on forms that are filled when importing a vehicle.
On a State level, states can have separate emissions regulations; California is the most notoriously difficult with this.
California requires Direct Imports 1968 and newer to undergo lab testing and bring the vehicle to California emissions compliance.
This process can cost about mid thousands for kei cars and standard non turbo cars. And about 10k give or take for something like a GT-R.
Don't think you're gonna cover all the reasons why living in Cali sucks in 5 minutes and change...
The 25yo law is only because local used car dealerships complained because back in the day Americans try to capitalize on a AT non Turbo Supra for 40k while you was able to able to have a low mileage Turbo 6 speed Supra for only 14k from Japan lol (just an easy exemple) but this is basically the real reason! Import were son,inch cleaner and cheaper than local... also old Japanese car were so much more reliable than any brand new American car rubish lol
Wait! What fucking shop is this?! That roll shot @ 1:45 was literally the industrial complex behind my house!
This is what I love about the UK. We can import most cars. As long as they comply woth emmisions of their time relevant to UK specs and all the lights work, we're good. US cars tend to be the hardest due to how tou have your lights setup.
I believe the lights are not panned in the angle needed to drive on UK roads. No? I'm sure this may not be such an issue today with cars that are on a global platforms perhaps. I also love your license plate system in the UK. Pretty cool. It just transfers over with the next owner?
@@mildmanneredthinkingman9323 You are almost correct about lights. In the USA, the indicators (blinkers) are sometimes built into the brake light which is a big no no in the UK as our indicators have to be separate and amber in colour. We don't have licence plates, we have number plates which stay with the vehicle through out its life (unless due to extraordinary circumstances) . What you may be thinking of is a personalised number plate which can be transferred from car to car but it can be a very complicated system to work out unless you know it well already.
@@sataneatcheese6243 makes sense now! Thanks
wait, so all the gtr's people are driving round america these days still have RHD headlights? Seems like a fast way to make your whole town hate you haha
It’s easy to buy a jdm car in California. Fork over the cash to the shop that has one, they cover the title and reg and smog for you. Money talks bullshit walks 😀
money gang
Will you be able to bring in s15's to the U.S as of 2024?
Yes
Easy, If you live in California yourself, You probably have family or friends in other states, Register it on their address, boom no need to comply with all this California crap. I know you’ll probably have issues with cops with out of state plates but for sure if you have this kind of car or any import or a project car you probably won’t drive it daily.
25 year old rule was implemented because the Japanese cars at the time was way better than the American car
It's all about money always has and always will
Gt:Goodluck
Me:thanks.
If you’re in Cali just avoid the headaches. Heard the process is long and it ain’t cheap. Gotta pay anywhere from $5-10k on top of price of vehicle to hopefully it’ll pass dumbass Cali smog regulations.
I spy a maloo ute!
is that bill gates in the thumbnail
I’ve always wondered (and pardon my extreme ignorance here,) why don’t some of these importers move one state over and override some of these crazy California regulations? Wouldn’t you make a little more money on sales?
It doesn't matter where the importer is. What matters is where the car is going to be registered. California has crazy emissions standards because of how bad the air quality was here before CARB existed. I'm talking people weren't going to school or work because you couldn't open your eyes or breath the air due to the smog. There are probably enough cars in California alone to cover everyone in the Midwest to own one. Throw that on top of people getting rid of emissions equipment and you'd have a re-do of the 70s. The emissions stuff aside, you still gotta pay California if you want to register the car here, and it's like $10,000 on top of whatever you bought the car for. It isn't a fun system, but as long as you have enough money as a customer you can pull it off. It doesn't affect the business because they're just holding the inventory. California, like a lot of places, will let you do whatever you want as long as you pay the right government agencies.
😂 i know ppl that have cars ARE NOT from top rank.
You guys think that sucks? have you heard of my country Singapore lol
What's so sucky about Singapore?
Dont hate the player, hate the game. That's wot we have to contend with as Singaporeans.
@@CheebiCeg9 da fk you on about bro lol
U said that Singapore is sucky. U provided a link, but it's not proof that its sucky.
As someone that lives in Japan. We hate it all the cars are going off shore and killing the scene here. What was once a 10k R32 GTR is now a 40k car (with the same rust) hense why most young people are loosing interest and buying Kei Cars.
You have to blame the fact that our 25 year rule along with manufacturers not wanting to spend millions in R&D to bring their overseas exclusive cars up to US compliance, and you get generations of people who want a car they weren’t originally allowed to have but only able to experience via movies and video games. That’s why it’s the way it is.
You're mad that legendary cars are desired?
@@Icureditwithmybrain “legendary” pfffff hAhaha
Interesting... By California compliance I assume they mean putting smog equipment on cars 25 years or older that never previously had it.
I think it's more along the lines of keeping whatever smog equipment it had and testing the car using the standards of that year.
@@steadyboost7 oh right on, I always thought they had to add new equipment, thanks for that info.
Do it yourself!?! in Cali... HELL NO!!!!!!! Thx God I live in Canada and moving to BC!
Oh look I got my new 25yo import hahaaaaaaaa
What happens after 2035?
nothing
Illegal smog will let you drive a jdm car lol
bullshit dont even watch it
But I've seen sheds on us roads