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  • @OtherMomo
    @OtherMomo 4 місяці тому +27

    Dorothy saving Roger is like a Machina ex Machina

  • @lunaberi
    @lunaberi 4 місяці тому +18

    As always, Big-O's atmosphere will never fail to pull me in. I love the background shots of the environment / setting.
    Idk what it is, but when I first saw those few shots of the city and people doing their daily mundane activities.... something in me says, "Yes, this is it." and I just feel so alone, yet at peace in that moment.

  • @joakittyarchieve5
    @joakittyarchieve5 4 місяці тому +18

    only God knows how happy I am to know that you, the greatest mecha hermit on UA-cam, made a video about the big O, a show that deserved a hermetic study for far too long. I'm so glad argonbolt you are the best!

  • @moralitiesaspook168
    @moralitiesaspook168 4 місяці тому +12

    That god damn Fuyutsuki image you chose at 19:30 is burned in my memory because of those threads on /a/ counting down to the release of 3.0+1.0

  • @bruticus0875
    @bruticus0875 4 місяці тому +27

    I always found it funny that Japanese writers were trying to recreate excited kid nostalgia for Japanese viewers by using both Japanese and Western references. But as it turns out, the Western audience felt nostalgia over sadness. simpleness, and regret. While I think they were going for nostalgia, I don't think they actually realized they produced 2 different types of it.
    I do kind of believe in creative intentions. But just as the quotes of the Toonami guy illustrates, everyone's perceptions don't always exactly match reality. It follows that neither do memories. The older I get, the more I'm sure we're just meant to take what we can and make what we want out of it. Despite the, and damned be, the creative intentions.

  • @ggggfan1
    @ggggfan1 4 місяці тому +26

    We have come to terms

  • @golgarisoul
    @golgarisoul 4 місяці тому +23

    The Big O has become a load baring pillar of how I think about life and the world. Mostly because of Schwarzvald's monologue and.... one of the tomatoes...

    • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
      @AntiDecepticonCampaign 4 місяці тому +3

      You’re on your way now… roll on little tomato, don’t get squashed or swallowed up. Stick around for the harvest.

    • @jwillkens
      @jwillkens 4 місяці тому +2

      I was in high school when this came out. It put a load on the pillar so heavy, it has yet to move.

  • @zephod
    @zephod 4 місяці тому +8

    Ugh, the paradigm breakdown got me. That’s good stuff. Hate that there’s someone doing serious analysis on media, not just phoning it in because it makes those of us who possibly could be doing the same but don’t look bad.

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +5

      Don't feel too bad, it takes a lot of time and effort and a lot of folks just got to put bread on the table.

  • @LAHFaust
    @LAHFaust 4 місяці тому +19

    I like to play long form videos while making scale models and, boy lemme tell you, it was rather confusing listening to a guy talk about Big O and suddenly hes quoting scripture at me.

    • @liesureleeminis8268
      @liesureleeminis8268 4 місяці тому +1

      I was prepping 3d prints. Just absolutely threw me off.

    • @LAHFaust
      @LAHFaust 4 місяці тому +2

      @@liesureleeminis8268 You have that moment of "where the hell did UA-cam send me now? Wait, this is the same video..."

    • @liesureleeminis8268
      @liesureleeminis8268 4 місяці тому

      @@LAHFaust exactly that. I scrolled through comments after that to see if I was the only one.

  • @jamesspinner7764
    @jamesspinner7764 4 місяці тому +22

    "You are a louse Roger Smith."

    • @CantankerousDave
      @CantankerousDave 2 місяці тому +1

      Nice to see a line I wrote nearly 25 years ago still getting quoted.

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 2 місяці тому

      Who are you dude?​@@CantankerousDave

  • @peteneblett9344
    @peteneblett9344 4 місяці тому +9

    I choose Sleep, my Brother.
    For now.
    When my rest becomes infected by restless Whispers and unscratchable Itches, and the hunger for Gnosis or and for the Genesis becomes a bare-ribbed famine of my Soul---
    I will Return.
    (You said leave a comment if I didnt want it spoiled, and i need to go consume The Big O , in entirity and in an Ouroborus of continuity.
    Then. I will be eager to watch....
    But after that i intro, i couldnt just leave a basic comment and split. Didnt feel right.
    But i got this one saved.)

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому

      Much appreciated

  • @ShellworldGames
    @ShellworldGames 4 місяці тому +6

    I liked Big O, and wished there could have been much more of it as a setting. I personally never care for the "simulation hypothesis" as a world-building theme. It's too bad the project was so limited in scope and focused more on homage rather than creating a new franchise.
    It would have been great if Big O could have retained it's season one overall quality, while exploring more of that world across up to eight seasons. To me it did seem to be going multicultural/multinational for a bit there - I was hoping Rodger would go to different lands, see how different nations handled the aftermath of that great war, perhaps find places untouched by the war, maybe even an android civilization. We could have had so much more with that fictional world setting.

  • @ggggfan1
    @ggggfan1 4 місяці тому +8

    Thank you so much for bringing up Mitsuteru Yokoyama as an influence on Big O, actually reading some of his manga really helped me connect the dots on the creation of one of my favorite anime from when I was a kid and it drives me insane how little people acknowledge any influence beyond batman.
    Also did not see that last chunk of the video to go where it did, much less for it to have some approval from Konaka.

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 4 місяці тому +13

    I heard someone compare this anime to Batman once and it is very apt when you think about it. The hero is a rich guy who likes to wear black with a secret identity fighting evildoers. He has a butler who provides him with support in building his gadgets. He's friends with the head of the police. His love interest is a mysterious women who wears a skin-tight catsuit. Even the art style looks more like Batman TAS than most anime.
    In any case, this is a great show. Episodic super robot shows don't get enough attention from the modern anime fanbase (the western, english speaking one anyway)

    • @Wasdxz_1-1
      @Wasdxz_1-1 4 місяці тому

      The artstyle looking like the Batman TAS series is because the studio for Big-O did work on Batman TAS. Some of Batman TAS' animation works are outsourced to Japan.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 4 місяці тому

      @@Wasdxz_1-1 Interesting.
      I knew American animation was outsourced to Japan (like how nowadays everyone, even Japan, outsources their grunt work to Korea) but I didn't know the same studio worked on both these shows.
      I wonder if that also explains the character similarities.

    • @KamenSentaiMetalHero
      @KamenSentaiMetalHero 4 місяці тому

      ​@@fattiger6957Yeah, that's why

  • @Corbellations
    @Corbellations 3 місяці тому +1

    I didnt realize how burned into my brain the OST and sound effects of this show were until I came across the sudden surge of Big O essays

  • @Philemon_Logos
    @Philemon_Logos 4 місяці тому +2

    Shocking! A The Big O video that isn't just regurgitating the Batman TSA point, but going very in-depth on other influences and creator interviews. Great video.
    I interpreted the "O" of Big O as Omega and Fau as the "lost" letter in the Greek alphabet also known as Digamma, but the Lord/King etymology also makes sense.
    That last part was also really interesting to a Xenogears fan such as myself. Gnosticism sure makes for great symbolism and themes in fiction, which many authors rightfully make use of.

  • @Brenticus
    @Brenticus Місяць тому

    Easily your best video yet. Please never provide less context. I am so here for these deep cuts, you got Max Derrat level analysis. Honestly some of the absolute best video essays I've seen in a long time- good enough that I actually care enough to provide feedback. Your channel really deserves to grow.
    I'd love to see a video on Gundam Thunderbolt and the idea of a nice guy working on the wrong side vs. a scary "bad" guy working on the right side, etc. (though if you really love Newtypes, perhaps not?) It's the video I tell myself I'll make one day lol.

  • @TeamTowers1
    @TeamTowers1 4 місяці тому +22

    Big O isn't that hard to figure out. They mystery wasn't meant to have an answer because Paradigm City was never meant to be anything other than an interesting setting for Roger's episodic adventures. But when the second season rolled around Konaka decided to make that point literal by revealing Paradigm as a literal stage.

  • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
    @AntiDecepticonCampaign 4 місяці тому +9

    One of the most underrated anime ever.
    Thank you for mentioning Buckminster Fuller.

  • @SoShiBias
    @SoShiBias 4 місяці тому +15

    *looks at video length*
    "Big Ol' video. Showtime!"

  • @fernandesh.m.5504
    @fernandesh.m.5504 4 місяці тому +10

    You even slipped in a Dougram reference.

  • @tobiogunyemi7631
    @tobiogunyemi7631 4 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful extensive deep dive video on one of my favorite anime ever, glad I came across it and that you acknowledged how fun it is to cover all the encompassing aspects of the show as well.
    The only, not even quibble really, thing I can think of that wasn't touched on (I believe, unless I somehow missed it) is there was no mention of the yellow ancient megadeus that Roger and Big O destroyed when they came up from the catacombs in the penultimate episode. It's on screen for basically a minute and there probably isn't that much in actuality to touch on, but it's such an incredible piece of wtf lore than I think it should be mentioned if nothing else.
    Anyway, again, awesome video and awesome work on this!

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah you kinda hit the nail on the head

    • @RisottosWife
      @RisottosWife Місяць тому

      That's the Behemoth, isn't it? It's probably another Archetype like the Leviathan (Act: 17).

  • @naheemquattlebaum2267
    @naheemquattlebaum2267 4 місяці тому +2

    I didn't realize it until now how similar Big O feels to Batman the Animated Series

  • @radiokunio3738
    @radiokunio3738 4 місяці тому +7

    After i watched this video, i have to mention a very unorthodox Christian i really enjoyed this video. I find myself escaping the orthodoxy of the Watchtower and yet cast into a sea of Nicene orthodoxy with just Christ and his father holding me. While i reject bonds and certain doctrine of Watchtower, i struggle to grasp doctrines considered essential by the rest of Christianity such as a Trirune God. I don't really wish to debunk the Trinity, but that we not burden others by placing it as a prerequisite to Christianity. That a non-triune faith can be accepted outside of small cult groups. As the Gnostics and Later Cathers have existed and continue to exist, i wish the same for Arians and the groups afterward.
    The just as the sower can not tell the wheat from the weeds, we can not tell who is a true Christian simply by the denomination they belong to. We need to wait for them to fully grow, lest we become like the steward who grew impatient and beat his fellow slaves he was appointed over. Just as the steward who knew the will of his masters yet did not do it was beaten many times, those who insist on orthodoxy yet persecute the "hectics" have heavy guilt . Yet just as the steward not knowing his master's will was beaten few times, those called "heretics" even if erring in thier doctrine will be beaten only a few times.
    That is the warning i see in schwarzweld, that in search for truth we do not develop our own orthodoxy and hold others by it. Just as the early Bible Students challenging the orthodoxy shifted to the modern Witnesses forming thier own orthodoxy.

  • @Digolgrin
    @Digolgrin 4 місяці тому +6

    The Big-O was never something I *watched* per se, I was too young for Adult Swim when it aired on this side of the Pacific. But even so, I bet I would have been a fan; we had a VHS copy of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and I remember watching a LOT of Justice League as a kid, though obviously not to the point where I could remember anything aside from that being where I first saw the Watchtower or that there was an episode where Superman was believed dead and there was a whole-ass funeral for him. If I had no clue that this was anime--bear in mind that my understanding of anime back then, pre-run-in with Gundam, was 4Kids-dubbed crap like Sonic X, Yu-Gi-Oh and the first Pokemon show--and had the patience to sit through 20 minute episodes back then, then this would have sat in the back of my mind just like Justice League did for all these years.
    But even so--this time, this time before, and in the years immediately after, 9/11, when Big-O Season 1 aired, was loaded with this sort of nostalgia, this sort of love-letter revival: Monolith's No One Lives Forever, a send-up to the ideal of '60s spy movies, as well as the Austin Powers movies. The Justice League TV show, of course, being a direct successor to Batman: The Animated Series AND the Superman animated series. Blue Submarine Number 6, with its score, not only slapping but calling to mind the show's original incarnations in the 1960's. Illusion Softworks, even, made the first Mafia game in 2002, a tribute to the mobster movies of the '70s, and Hidden and Dangerous in 1999, a tactical shooter tribute to WWII commando pulp films. I could go on, but it is eminently clear to me that this could be considered a movement all on its own; nostalgia driven not merely by profit, but to make their own mark on the genre of works their creators experienced in their childhood.
    I like to think this period began to enter a state of hibernation, at least in video games, with Pandemic's The Saboteur, a sort of pulp comic book take on the Nazi occupation of France during WWII--the game that got that studio shut down. Saboteur's is a world where the Nazis are allowed to be wacky, where you literally escape from a prison inside a Nazi car factory with a gate many times the size of your car, and zeppelins dominate the skies of Paris and Bf 109s buzz the racetrack at Saarbrucken pre-invasion--and that's just the prologue set. Only the new Wolfenstein games, including the 2008 Wolfenstein, exceed its wackiness as a whole package. Film took a bit longer to enter this stage, but it eventually did around the time of Pacific Rim and Inglorious Basterds, I feel.
    Heck, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Rocksteady's output in 2009 and 2011, with Arkham Asylum and Arkham City; Paul Dini was in charge of writing those games, *and* the original voice cast of the Batman animated series even got to reprise their most important roles. Arkham Knight, in 2015, of course, lost a lot of that luster, and Suicide Squad this year... well.
    Nowadays I feel artistic nostalgia has largely lost its meaning. As we approach the grand reveal of yet another Call of Duty game that shamelessly re-adapts the plot points of a game in its past while simultaneously ignoring exactly what made that game so memorable back then in favor of 'technical realism based on today', we see nostalgia based on IP, of what the pencil-pushers knew was good in the past, and what could be a guaranteed hit today. If there's even the remote possibility Fortnite will pick it up for a crosspromo deal, they'll go for it. If it can be tossed into a cinematic universe with more possibility for crossover mayhem, all the better. Hell, if an old game can even be 'remastered', warts and all, at low cost to the publisher and sold back to a consumer who has really strong memberberries for that particular game but can't be assed to dig out the old copy and the console that played it, that's even better for the bottom line. We are in an age where IP is king, where even art has been optimized to a point of sheer 'lmao fuck you.'
    In that sense, as I write this at the end of the second third of the video, we should cherish The Big-O and the nostalgic works it accompanied. They exist in a realm and period of art that is truly one of a kind, and one that may never come to pass again in the realm of big-budget outings.

  • @user-ManofStyle1
    @user-ManofStyle1 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for your great work, this retrospective is what all Big O fans needed all this time.

  • @riffcrypt8438
    @riffcrypt8438 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm cracking up, I watched the first 10 minutes and went, "Damn I haven't thought of Big-O since I first watched it on Toonami as a kid", 30 minutes I'm like, "Alright I'm stopping the video and rewatching all of both Big O and Batman"

  • @zachbrehany2253
    @zachbrehany2253 4 місяці тому +5

    SPOILER FOR EVA: THRICE UPON A TIME
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    After rewatching the last Rebuild of Evangelion film, my main conclusion is that the anime world owes Big O a massive apology for the reaction the ending had at the time it was released.

  • @Denzus01
    @Denzus01 4 місяці тому +6

    Babe wake up Argonbolt kino just dropped

  • @MutantHeadcrab
    @MutantHeadcrab 4 місяці тому +7

    45:50 Well met, fellow Schwarzwald cultist. Please don't mind the gasoline soaked bandages.

    • @TeamTowers1
      @TeamTowers1 4 місяці тому +2

      I dunno given the writer got revealed as conspiracy nut later (and I mean the bad kind of conspiracy nut), Schwarzwald while still a great character, reads very differently.

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +4

      @@TeamTowers1 Sometimes the search for truth can enable an unfortunate behavior of believing that all great truths are mysteries veiled in obscurity and secrets. At points the reality is simply a more nuanced version of the obvious in front of us. It's not entertaining or amazing or novel. Thus it can cause an addiction in attributing all truths as hidden. Or worse, all truths as requiring esoteric revelations.
      Sometimes the pipe is actually just a pipe, boring though that be.

    • @TeamTowers1
      @TeamTowers1 4 місяці тому +1

      @@argonbolt I think in some ways the pursuit of truth can be driven by a desire to be special to be more than just another sheep. Unfortunately that can lead to one's idea of what is the truth becoming self serving and driven more by that desire to be special. In essence one becomes so desperate to take the red pill, that they will happily believe a different flavored blue pill is the red pill.

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +4

      @@TeamTowers1 Yeah it can get pretty chuni that is for sure. But sometimes you hire the weird chuni exactly writer because you want some of that spice for your big anime project. Because mundane ideas are so mundane they don't illicit amazement. In another sense, as the purpose of entertainment is to entertain, it may be the best place for the use and injection of such things. Much worse would be say, oh I don't know, an extremely popular podcast/online video show which tries to seriously infer its schizophrenic conspiracy theories are capital T TRUE and also you should be buying 900$ of male supplements.
      In either case, a critical ability to THINK! Is very handy to have.

    • @TeamTowers1
      @TeamTowers1 4 місяці тому

      @@argonbolt I get were you are coming from, but I also don't think it's a coincidence that Konaka ceasing to get much work coincided with how much of a chuni he actually was becoming more apparent.

  • @0Fate8Bound0
    @0Fate8Bound0 4 місяці тому +1

    Hooooooooooly shit, what are the odds I'm looking for the Big O ost after 24 years and a retrospective video gets dropped 6 days ago

  • @Knotmanstartros
    @Knotmanstartros 4 місяці тому +2

    I always thought that the show was about repetition of cycles.
    Of-course, there is a meta-narrative, and all of that, but the show still suggests an ambiguous past that is up to ones interpretation.
    The apostles of the past are hunting the present, but why do they hunt?
    I believe that this is because, the "goal" of each subsequent revision of Paradigm city, is to become more peaceful and stable, than the versions before it.
    Schwarzwald, is trying to uncover the fundamental failures of the past. The past version of Dorothy (R.D.) tries to prevent others from remembering it. Both create catastrophic events in the present.
    Ultimately each cycle gets its own "stable/peaceful" version of reality, only to get sabotaged again by the "ghosts" of the past.
    The cycle gets reset each time when the events lead to another catastrophic version of the present, in the same time using a method (I.e obscuring everyone's memory) that almost certainly guarantees its own tragic repetition.

  • @kandikidzora
    @kandikidzora 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m so glad there’s others who love The Big O like I do! Amazing video

  • @darinaprstmmprhdl6975
    @darinaprstmmprhdl6975 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh wow a Big O video essay? And that long? Must watch.

  • @isaacwinters6954
    @isaacwinters6954 4 місяці тому +14

    Just take the like

  • @sakalak
    @sakalak 4 місяці тому +3

    Me: Great video!
    Also me: the G train does not connect to the F at the 23rd street stop in fact it while it does connect to the F it only runs through brooklyn and queens and does not enter manhattan at all

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому

      I got a chop cheese for ya.

  • @Aeonbarr
    @Aeonbarr 4 місяці тому +2

    Oh snap, two of my favorite things; big philosophical mecha shows of my youth and waxing philosophical about gnosticism.
    Dis gonna be good!

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +1

      Literally THE target audience!

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune 4 дні тому

    26:40 Huh, that's why the intro made me think of Queen all the time! Certainly came across as intended.

  • @H0agi
    @H0agi 4 місяці тому +1

    I literally just got done watching the whole series, and now I'm here. This a pleasant surprise that I'm not the only one who loves the big O.

  • @trashpanda6885
    @trashpanda6885 Місяць тому +1

    This and Ergo Proxy are two of my favorite shows of all time. Great video.

  • @thelittlewarriorcomic
    @thelittlewarriorcomic 2 місяці тому

    I very rarely follow any content creator on UA-cam... but for this huge, deep labour of love that is this video, I have to give something in return. Thank you :)

  • @jackwilliamson1807
    @jackwilliamson1807 4 місяці тому +1

    Synecdoche, New York has also been one of my faves! So cool to hear it applied here.

  • @KamenSentaiMetalHero
    @KamenSentaiMetalHero 4 місяці тому

    I would argue that Dorothy is also the series's equivalent to both Robin and Batgirl.

  • @ereherats
    @ereherats 4 місяці тому +1

    I will return to watch this. Just because I need to go rewatch Big O in the first place

  • @spaghettisultan5484
    @spaghettisultan5484 4 місяці тому

    Holy shit-throwing monkeys! I was mad and confused when I saw the last episodes in my teen years. I was like 'Wait. So the world is some virtual reality like the Matrix or something?'
    Now that I'm older, (maybe) wiser, and after watching this video that you put your blood, sweat, tears, and other bodily fluids into making, I have to rewatch the series again. I'll have a new appreciation that I've been missing out on and learn something about myself.
    I'll have to stock up on painkillers if the plot is too much for me now than before.

  • @davidwalden309
    @davidwalden309 4 місяці тому

    This is truly the absolute best video about Big O I've ever seen, heard, or read. I've already watched it twice, and will likely watch this many more times in the future. I love it. Thank you.....I greatly appreciate this.

  • @HungNguyen-sy4oz
    @HungNguyen-sy4oz 4 місяці тому

    "Finding it though, that's not the hard part. It's letting go."

  • @Furore2323
    @Furore2323 Місяць тому

    I might well be imagining this,
    but are you pulling audio clips from Kyle Kallgren for 'synechdoche'?

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt Місяць тому

      I have no idea who Kyle Kallgren is sorry.

    • @Furore2323
      @Furore2323 Місяць тому

      @@argonbolt One of the best film UA-camrs to ever do it,
      but thanks for confirming my suspicion!

  • @earthmusician
    @earthmusician 4 місяці тому

    Great analysis. I liked the progression, background info, surrounding context, etc. I always loved The Big O and it continues to be one of my favorites. Thanks for an awesome video.

  • @beauoddball1435
    @beauoddball1435 4 місяці тому +2

    I’m really excited about this Video The Big O is One of my Favorite Anime. I loved as a Kid and I love It Now.

  • @OLEWolf
    @OLEWolf 3 місяці тому +1

    Big O it's SHOW TIME!!!!!

  • @SuperAlexkol
    @SuperAlexkol 4 місяці тому +5

    Showtime!

  • @liesureleeminis8268
    @liesureleeminis8268 4 місяці тому

    Finally got me to decide to pull out my blurays. Havent opened them yet. Ive seen it once. Bought out of nostolgia and reliving my past. Bit of irony in that.

  • @revalution1965
    @revalution1965 4 місяці тому

    One of my favorite anime’s as a kid and couldn’t remember it for suuuuch a long time until I had to just search through toonamis anime list until I finally found it

  • @909crime
    @909crime Місяць тому +1

    Would you ever do a video on macross or orguss perhaps? Also orguss o2 mentioned lets goo

  • @p0llister
    @p0llister 4 місяці тому +4

    Commenting because I love Dorothy

  • @RonofArr
    @RonofArr 4 місяці тому

    Bro really told me to go to bed... how did he know I need more sleep?

  • @jonahblock
    @jonahblock 4 місяці тому

    just like in the comics there are 3 jokers in this, the prince of crime, the dark jester and the psychopath

  • @xabungle5192
    @xabungle5192 4 місяці тому

    Wow. I'm at a loss for words, but this video essay deserves more engagement - please accept this comment for the algorithm.

  • @XaroctheGodofKarma
    @XaroctheGodofKarma 4 місяці тому +1

    I have never seen or heard of you before. But after watching your intro, I want you to write my eulogy

  • @thatsnozakuboi2415
    @thatsnozakuboi2415 19 днів тому +1

    I love this video! And I love the Big O! I have a Schwarzwald and Big Duo half sleeve. I'm glad there's other Big O fans out there. Bandai needs to make some hg kits of Duo and Fau

  • @GrimmShane
    @GrimmShane 3 місяці тому

    The Big O is a show that exists for the Uncertain Present, and to illuminate a Neverending Future.

  • @moralitiesaspook168
    @moralitiesaspook168 4 місяці тому

    Finally I can learn more about one of my most beloved mecha series

  • @glacier4286
    @glacier4286 4 місяці тому

    I have to wonder when people make connections in works like these do they expect the audience to get them? Or are they Easter eggs/args for the rare people in possession of the decrypting knowledge such as you?
    Or is it just writing what they know which happens to be a niche bit of knowledge?
    As someone with creative aspirations I sometimes wonder if I based my influences on parallels out of history would it not feel forced.
    I know I wouldn't have figured this one out.
    In any case this show was a great find as visuals, audio, characters and plot came together in a way few shows I could compare to which I hold in high regard.
    Thank you for the video.

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +1

      It's a kind of special spice you can add really. These kinds of deep mysteries and the use of esoteric elements. It invigorates and makes a work fascinating and unique in flavorings.

  • @jayknight139
    @jayknight139 4 місяці тому

    strange how this show kinda isn't talked about very often yet it was a game changer

  • @jorje0068
    @jorje0068 4 місяці тому +1

    Okay, Big O is cool, but you addressing the Demiurge now!? Wtf mandatory follow

  • @jiggyshark4511
    @jiggyshark4511 4 місяці тому

    Big O was something I was told about back in 2021, and after watching it, it really stuck with me, i remember finishing it and being left both confused yet weirdly satisfied, it then became my absolute favourite anime of all time. With Schwarzwald becoming my favourite character from it.
    Im on my 6th(?) Watch through of the series after finally convincing my best friend to watch it, and i adore the mystery, and hell, i even like that I may never truly have MY answer for it all. But i do adore your interpretation and it's fascinating finding out some of the truths I didnt know before.
    One thing i always saw in the series is a coincidental similarity with Greek mythology, Big Venus being Chronus, with Duo, Fau and O being Zeus, Poseidon and Hades respectively. Poseidon and Hades being "consumed" by Chronus whike Zeus manages to escape to the heavens. Its a very surface level thing but i think it's an interesting potential parrallel

    • @redmoonbloodmoon3161
      @redmoonbloodmoon3161 4 місяці тому

      my understanding:
      the "big Os" (the megadeuces) destroyed the world, wiping out all of humanity, and everything that we see, is merely a projection created by Big Venus, via "memories" (preserved data) of humanity, and at the end, despite everything being an "illusion" (a projection by Big Venus), there's meaning in their struggle, in trying to find meaning and purpose in their fake "lives", and so, Big Venus, resets the projection, back to the beginning episode, as with the same drive and struggle to find meaning and purpose, is it any different with our own real world and real humanity (or from when humanity still existed within the show, before they got wiped out)? Big Venus came to the realization, that as long as there's the drive and struggle to find meaning and purpose, they're just as alive, as actual alive people

  • @joshmcgootermier2301
    @joshmcgootermier2301 Місяць тому

    Really killed me never getting the final two mangas.

  • @aresgodofwar7401
    @aresgodofwar7401 4 місяці тому

    Oh shit here we go another video on an og classic anime that barely anyone knows about. Thank you

  • @Zalachai
    @Zalachai 4 місяці тому

    I think its about time to crack out the dvds.

  • @FairAndBalanced07
    @FairAndBalanced07 2 місяці тому

    Magnificent! Your efforts are appreciated.

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 2 місяці тому

      Glad you liked it!

  • @youngthinker1
    @youngthinker1 4 місяці тому

    I always saw Big O as a giant warning about life. How easy it is to be trapped into a pattern, a false one where your own desperate will tries to hold things together. Like a girl playing with dolls, she tries, and fails to force wills, and devotion of her into them. So to, does the man trapped in his own mind.
    Nostalgia is something meant to be passed on, to those who love you, so they too can know what to do with that wisdom. However, trying to stay within nostalgia simply leads to meaningless and destruction. Life cycles between highs and lows, with most falling deep into a hell or expecting to stay in heaven, thus build a fort in such a place, when all they really needed was a tent. To fight such a cycle, to resist His will, is simply futile efforts best served by tossing yourself into the sea and trying to not drown at the bottom of the ocean.
    Even within the cartoon, with all the characters forced to acted out the same role for years, cracks form, and the doll master fails over and over again. Her efforts never achieve her desired result, as that is not is meant for her. Her refusal to accept that, forces everyone else to relive life till she does.

  • @StephenRansom47
    @StephenRansom47 4 місяці тому

    This is a Masterpiece of Fandom. BRAVO 🎉
    The show is an amazing example of the conventions of Anime to explore the deepest aspects of Applied Philosophy.

  • @popcornbunches
    @popcornbunches 4 місяці тому

    Recently got into the mecha genre and your videos are a godsend

  • @knightory
    @knightory 4 місяці тому +1

    hey dawg, we used to hang out a lot during the middle of 2020. you might remember me as brendan, but i saw this in recommended and had to check it out. i'm so glad you're out here still making videos dude. my boyfriend mentioned being interested in the Big O, so this video reminded me i need to check it out and come back to this retrospective

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +2

      Hey been a while! Glad to see my stuff is popping up more. Hope you are doing well.

    • @knightory
      @knightory 4 місяці тому

      @@argonbolt i was stoked to see it hit my recommended. my first thought was "thank god my boy made it"
      proud of you!

  • @Bubbaj0e
    @Bubbaj0e 4 місяці тому

    Now I got rewatch the big o. Great video.

  • @MeltshineZone
    @MeltshineZone 4 місяці тому

    Lets... not even begin with you mentioning its going to be nothing but Big O tracks, when you have personal ones inputted like Yuzos Lounge with Talks of Tomorrow and Kadomatsu Space Scraper which had my mouth agape, but just how this entire experience just proceeded to escalate in nature when it came to gnosis. "Our gold is not the common mans gold", knowledge will be there for those that want to seek it. At the least, and at the very best of what you're capable of, THINK. Always always think.
    As someone who has consumed many Hermetic, Rosicrucian, and Gnostic texts the last 3 months, i adhere to you're interpretation.

  • @thats4thebirds
    @thats4thebirds 4 місяці тому

    Just leaving a comment for the algo. This series has such a weird strange place in my mind. Gundam Batman is what I used to call it for people haha

  • @1inimilian567
    @1inimilian567 4 місяці тому

    It is weird seeing people talk about this show that I thought I only cared about

  • @sokon2886
    @sokon2886 4 місяці тому

    Love Big O, it’s my childhood favorite and the first anime to get me into mechs

  • @Place_to_keep_videos
    @Place_to_keep_videos 4 місяці тому

    This was a Masterclass in analysis. Also the best explanation of Gnostiscm I’ve come across yet. Thank you for your time and work.

  • @radiokunio3738
    @radiokunio3738 4 місяці тому +1

    1:09:30 "Big Venis"

  • @FIlmXFilms
    @FIlmXFilms 4 місяці тому +1

    Friggin sensational stuff man. 👏

  • @BBoy_PopTart
    @BBoy_PopTart 4 місяці тому +1

    Dorothy is 100% the show

  • @yuvalyanovitch2504
    @yuvalyanovitch2504 4 місяці тому

    In the name of god... I cast thee... Guilty!!!

  • @atom6799
    @atom6799 4 місяці тому

    lol i was just counting down until gnostics are referenced

  • @devinarmstrong7857
    @devinarmstrong7857 4 місяці тому +45

    Before I watch the video, I have to mention as a Christian; the Gospel of Thomas was written far after the canonical gospels of the bible and should not be considered as fact. I just want to let it be known Jesus of Nazareth did not say those words quoted from the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas, and Christians do not believe it was divinely inspired.

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому +40

      Sublime irony.

    • @rushpatriot2866
      @rushpatriot2866 4 місяці тому +1

      This narrow mindset is why Christians are tricked so easy nowadays. Something doesn't have to be canonical to be true and if you fear a book that isn't canon then you lack the holy spirit you can search almost anywhere for knowledge and have the courage to do so because the holy spirit only leads to truth. This "only the church and canon books are correct" mindset is also the reason Christians don't take anything literally anymore even though a lot of the Bible is in fact literal. You're supposed to read the Bible with the eyes of a child to truly understand

    • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
      @AntiDecepticonCampaign 4 місяці тому +12

      You mean Catholics don’t. I leave it in the air for consideration as a component of the whole, like the old testament and other scrolls that are hundreds of years apart or more.
      It stands to reason that The Word was obviously tampered with over time as there was a more than 600 year period where it was so illegal to even own a Bible as a commoner. Key phrase in the old testament and a hint “ let US create man in OUR image”
      They thought themselves to be gods “like the most high” also these “fallen” went on to rule the earth as “the old gods” seeking to subvert The Most Holy. Once you think for yourself and stay in prayer for discernment you’ll see things differently such as “no building by the hands of man will you find HIM” and “your body is a temple” therefore YOU are a host, Christ is The Host of all hosts, King of Kings(you and me) we struggle against principalities and powers and we as spiritual beings enduring the cruse of flesh(to die) are fated to be principalities and powers of The Most Holy to build HIS Holy city we are The church/Holy City He will return to save. The creation and flood stories from all over the world are all the same stories but they are also at the same time woven into worldly propaganda(fear) to bind us. There’s a reason Catholics are Catholic and Not Christian: the difference between sheep and a lamb to put it to modern symbolism. The Truth shines through but you will miss it unless you look.
      However if one’s heart(this is key) is mourning the impulse of one’s flesh and remorseful with compassion for fellows knowing they are also afflicted(forgiveness) and ever seek for a higher purpose of your being like self sacrifice for greater means or building generations of those whom would rightfully fear Holy Fury as if you yourself killed The Son of God with you sins(flesh impulses) like some ignorant pig wollowing in mud you desire more from simply existing. You seek HIM with all of your heart and nothing else because this life is temporary and that is a fact.

    • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
      @AntiDecepticonCampaign 4 місяці тому +1

      @@argonboltto submissive Catholics and lip service Christians, yes. I don’t give anything credit if it’s in the control of the hands of men but the truth is written on my heart and it becomes clearer as I seek HIM. This world is wicked after all.

    • @AntiDecepticonCampaign
      @AntiDecepticonCampaign 4 місяці тому +8

      You MUST think!
      You missed the point of the use of the gospel of Thomas.

  • @HierarchofTowers
    @HierarchofTowers 4 місяці тому

    the sanecoin of robot videos strikes again.

  • @joshuahough8265
    @joshuahough8265 Місяць тому

    Truly excellent work. I thank you sincerely.

  • @macrosense
    @macrosense 4 місяці тому

    Did you used to watch the Generation Films channel?

  • @shwqa
    @shwqa 4 місяці тому

    Pretty good, but my i suggest a longer intro to the video? 5 minutes of filler seems too small.

  • @lostcosmonaut1000
    @lostcosmonaut1000 4 місяці тому +3

    another niche banger

  • @420negus
    @420negus 4 місяці тому

    Love this show. Would love to meet other people who feel the same.

  • @leodouskyron5671
    @leodouskyron5671 4 місяці тому +2

    More importantly the show is a mystery without an answer so any answer you come up with is good - just enjoy the show.
    If you can accept that new viewer you can stop at 1:25:07 or so … you are welcome.
    Of course, I know the real answer. It is a simulation. (Full answer at the end of the comment - seriously one sentence)
    Want more story why not I was just annoyed for a half hour so why not.
    There was a war, humanity lost. Roger (clearly his name) was a pilot in that war. And as things were coming to an end he asked “Why to I feel so guilty about this war” to his bot. He did not know his bot had become truly sentient but it asked other bots when it did not know. A cascade of bots stopping as each asked others and waited on the reply. The reply was he was “not guilty but that also made no sense as he had gone to war. A contradiction that the AI bots felt an urge to figure out. Tonight themselves was impossible as the algorithm for figuring it out was huge(yup BIG O). There was a solution though - humans can figure it out for them (the AIs).
    Roger negotiated with Roswater and the AI-bots to come up with an answer. The bots would make a city on top of the ruins of the place they were now and run a simulation to let humanity figure it out. The humans would never except permanent jail time so the were altered mentally to have no memory before the “time of the dome” being built and that the world was destroyed. Skills were not affected so humans could complete their purpose. And the entire idea was Angel’s (Rosswater’s rl daughter). Who was a fan of the old movies of a time long past. She set the parameters and knowing them Rodger, rosewater and herself while powerful and in someways super admins to the system. She forgot what she was doing and nearly ended the program but at the end she regained her memories and with Roger and Dorothy reset the simulation.
    About the tomatoes. They didn’t have enough people to actually make a city. So they had to make “extras”. So the tomatoes were born using the genes of those that had been in the city before. Many were given skills older persons had skills already and those that were passing in the system handed those skills down to others RT.
    The domes in rl are protecting people in be virtual pods. Biological systems are maintained so children can be born and aging can happen except for the super admins.
    But the program MUST run to completion. This is why dead people don’t stay dead. Why a dead reporter can have leaflets distributed. The idea is that this “question ” must be found so the program can end with the truth …but then truth is it must never be found
    Another problem was that Angel as right and Dorothy knows the answer. As a ai android she is programmed to tell a big ending the experiment and is frequently being compelled to say it - but she can’t because she l knows that ends the experiment and that would mean people like her “father” would end too. (That is why she keeps coving her mouth when big sister is near). But knowing what she does means she is now able to be at Angel and Rodger’s level.
    Angel and Roger both willingly alost most of their memories and did so to make sure they could not help the program complete. But Angel was then “programmed” and then used by those in the system. Causing. A bit is trauma for her at the end.
    This deal must never be completed but also never be breached. Thus anyone that has the memory that could be the answer must die and that memory with that thought destroyed. Most people in the story are not amnesic but don’t know as they are clones or the children of survivors and clones and the skills they have is that supplied by the machines, and those that have willingly left the simulation (that comes with a gravestone) and by Gordon.
    We don’t know how many times this has happened but the reset is literally just a synaptic one that cause everything to go back to the beginning but each time the ‘program’ runs there are changes and some things don’t. Some info is retained. Androids can become human. Those that know the answer can burry it. Those that are born grow up. Maybe a lost love will get a chance to blossom this time. But time moves on and the would outside slowly heals and the one in the domes keep alive the memories of the past without remembering that they are doing it. A sealed bottle of the past.
    Big O is a story about a high tech time capsule!

    • @redmoonbloodmoon3161
      @redmoonbloodmoon3161 4 місяці тому

      my understanding:
      the "big Os" (the megadeuces) destroyed the world, wiping out all of humanity, and everything that we see, is merely a projection created by Big Venus, via "memories" (preserved data) of humanity, and at the end, despite everything being an "illusion" (a projection by Big Venus), there's meaning in their struggle, in trying to find meaning and purpose in their fake "lives", and so, Big Venus, resets the projection, back to the beginning episode, as with the same drive and struggle to find meaning and purpose, is it any different with our own real world and real humanity (or from when humanity still existed within the show, before they got wiped out)? Big Venus came to the realization, that as long as there's the drive and struggle to find meaning and purpose, they're just as alive, as actual alive people, the fake humanity (the projection) is just as real as were humanity, before it had been wiped out

  • @ryunoe9353
    @ryunoe9353 4 місяці тому

    Let us miss that ignorance together.

  • @mrnobody2683
    @mrnobody2683 4 місяці тому

    I remember when youtube had it all

  • @nedmaster1000
    @nedmaster1000 4 місяці тому

    Waiting on you to do a Macross retrospective

  • @klaasfaak4039
    @klaasfaak4039 4 місяці тому

    6:44 if only LOTGH had actual good animation and directing tho. Thankfully the art, story and characters made up for it but man do I wish it had a semblence of artistic directing

  • @greywolf2809
    @greywolf2809 4 місяці тому

    Big O is just the great battsby

    • @argonbolt
      @argonbolt 4 місяці тому

      Unlike the Great Gattsby, the Big O doesn't end with Roger Smith never goes on a bloodsoaked killing spree with his signature decapitating hat.

  • @asyrafasri9824
    @asyrafasri9824 4 місяці тому

    Cool new documentary on another giant robot 🔥🔥🔥🔥