Wow. Table tennis commentator who actually know what he's talking about. Easily visible game shot from angles that actually let you see the spin and trajectory of the ball. Wtf are we doing in 2016?!
Great match. Two later Olympics Gold Medalists played against each other. ITTF, please take a look at how these old games were held in the past. The lighting of the sport hall, the closeness of the audiences to the table and the style of the commentators; all these uplift a table tennis match to a classy snooker competition. Today we have only gaudy table tennis matches.
Gentlemen, the table tennis game starts with the serve! Whether Waldner wins a lot of games based on his serves or not, it is how the game starts, everyone knows this..Meaning that all other players and everybody can also work on their serves..Take a look a Ma Lin: has worked hard on his serves but also on his service return..
Yes, many of the top players are 3rd ball attackers and 5th ball winners. The serve sets up the 'easy' return for you to launch into the 3rd ball attack. And if you didn't win, then the 4th ball is defensive and you hit the 5th ball as the winner.
+MurrayfieldTTC Thank you a bunch, I'm thrilled by your dig, dear Murray, as this was a real treat to us, old-timers who can deeply appreciate a truly classic as this one. The narration by Matthew Syed makes it all the more enjoyable, as he is a solid knowledgeable connoisseur of the intricacies of the TT game, and all his inputs were right on the spot. This was a combination of factors that makes it beyond fabulous. The only sad note is that the TV/Producers who holds its rights decided to severely edit its final video, stealing 64 points from us which, on such a high level game as this one, practically reduces it to a mere illustration of a Final between the Greatest of all times and a really hard and capable opponent - albeit a very frustrated and emotionally taken one, a humanely surprise compared to how cold, focused and undisturbed most asian players generally are. But, anyway, I gather that's "it's better some than none", isn't it? ;) Again, my deep thanks for your decision to post it and all your efforts to share! Cheers!
Waldner was always something special under pressure. A modern player with a similar style to Yoo Nam Kyu is the Korean Ryu Seung Min. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoo_Nam-kyu
It was 87 just before the 1988 Olympics where Yoo won Gold. It was at The Thornaby Pavillion in NE UK. I remember watching it on TV. I was 11 and its the match which got me playing
It was completely clever by waldner to speed up the gap between points nd serve quickly with all his variations nd even wen yu was serving he returned the ball too quickly
Last set is not weird. Waldner kept the pressure and pace (like JW says in the post match interview) and YNK folded under pressure and gave up mentally or maybe JW won thanks to his strength - YNK was not strong enough to keep up. You can’t blame a winner for why the loser lost. Unless they play with an injury, but then it is also not the winners fault that the loser is injured. This is not ice skating on Olympic level. ;)
No, this is where the GREAT players show why they're GREAT. At 12-8 ahead, Waldner applies the pressure with 5 devastating serves - quick with spin, and YNK coudn't handle the returns. Waldner attacks with full force and YNK can't stop the stampede. Waldner wins all 5 of his serves to lead 17-8. YNK then gives up.
@waldner97 No I do not agree. Waldner is a legend, no doubt, but in different times there have been others who were at the top and is difficult to compare players in different periods. Waldner built his career on a fantastic but very hidden service. I spoke to various world top players and I heard more than once that without such service Waldner would have lost much more, so I desume he was, more or less, as good as the other World top players (but for his service) He is fantastic though.
Alvin Diaspar Well, what's stopping the top players from developing a great serve as well? Everybody was allowed to hide the ball back then. Would you make the case that Ma Lin was not better than European players during the time because if you take away his forehand loop and replace it with a "normal" one, he would have lost much more?
It's weird that now in 2018 with several techniques in place to slow the game down (no more speed glue, plastic ball), one would expect to see longer rallies. But no, now TT's been degraded to serve-and-whack, promoted by the Chinese. There are just no more rallies anymore ...
In F1, all the rules changes are to slow the cars down - yet each year the lap times get less and less, and the cars get quicker and quicker. Yes, in TT the rule changes were there to slow the ball down - but you're forgetting that athletes today are much more stronger and fitter, and with sports science, they're able to hit the balls with more power and spin, making the attacking shots much harder to defend against.
Yoo Nam Kyu has completely surrendered at the end of the last set. It did spoil a little bit the beauty of the game in my opinion. It is a shame. He bowed to JOW's power, he acknowledged the Swedish was the best though^^
From 12-8 down, YNK coudln't handle the 5 deceptive serves from JOW and lost those 5 points without reply. He surrendered knowing that at 17-8 down, he can't win.
I love watching Yoo Nam Kyu. he is one exciting player with a great backhand
Wow. Table tennis commentator who actually know what he's talking about. Easily visible game shot from angles that actually let you see the spin and trajectory of the ball. Wtf are we doing in 2016?!
Dean Martin oh no
Waldner did, at least in this Final. He outclassed Yoo Nam Kyu in the last game. Very nice display of a true master!
Thanks for the uploading. It was a pleasure watching an old game.
This is an incredible find, very rare. Thank you very much MurrayfieldTTC!
Great match. Two later Olympics Gold Medalists played against each other.
ITTF, please take a look at how these old games were held in the past. The lighting of the sport hall, the closeness of the audiences to the table and the style of the commentators; all these uplift a table tennis match to a classy snooker competition. Today we have only gaudy table tennis matches.
9 years later, your comment still stands true !
Awesome dude. Never seen this one before, thanks.
This must have been before he won the 89 worlds.
Gentlemen, the table tennis game starts with the serve! Whether Waldner wins a lot of games based on his serves or not, it is how the game starts, everyone knows this..Meaning that all other players and everybody can also work on their serves..Take a look a Ma Lin: has worked hard on his serves but also on his service return..
Yes, many of the top players are 3rd ball attackers and 5th ball winners. The serve sets up the 'easy' return for you to launch into the 3rd ball attack. And if you didn't win, then the 4th ball is defensive and you hit the 5th ball as the winner.
Waldner sportin the period-correct mullet; business in the front, party in the back.
@olaniyi570
presumably circa 87-so before Yoo Nam Kyu had won the Olympics in Seoul. So the 1st two Olympic champions both in action!!
@seekandthink Agree with you but he has also beaten some of the best top player in the world in 2004 without his serve.
Great to see 80's Waldner with good control and service
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Kim taek soo and yoo nam kyu, move so fast around the table.
Thanks for the videos.I have many old table tennis matches to,but ive newer seen this.
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Thank for this rare video!!!......post more if you have
+MurrayfieldTTC
Thank you a bunch, I'm thrilled by your dig, dear Murray, as this was a real treat to us, old-timers who can deeply appreciate a truly classic as this one. The narration by Matthew Syed makes it all the more enjoyable, as he is a solid knowledgeable connoisseur of the intricacies of the TT game, and all his inputs were right on the spot.
This was a combination of factors that makes it beyond fabulous.
The only sad note is that the TV/Producers who holds its rights decided to severely edit its final video, stealing 64 points from us which, on such a high level game as this one, practically reduces it to a mere illustration of a Final between the Greatest of all times and a really hard and capable opponent - albeit a very frustrated and emotionally taken one, a humanely surprise compared to how cold, focused and undisturbed most asian players generally are.
But, anyway, I gather that's "it's better some than none", isn't it? ;)
Again, my deep thanks for your decision to post it and all your efforts to share!
Cheers!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Its not Matthew Syed commentating (He would have only been 17 at the time!), not 100% sure who is commentating though.
Commentator was Simon Reed
Waldner was always something special under pressure. A modern player with a similar style to Yoo Nam Kyu is the Korean Ryu Seung Min.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoo_Nam-kyu
@ikaros21 unlikely, this match was in 1987...Ovtcharov was born in 1988..
It was 87 just before the 1988 Olympics where Yoo won Gold. It was at The Thornaby Pavillion in NE UK. I remember watching it on TV. I was 11 and its the match which got me playing
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Now that is a find! The legendary 1988 Olympic Champion Yoo Nam Kyu at his best. No one could withstand his fast attacks at that time.
Woha insane how short of a pause they make between serves.
Scores were 5-5 then 21-9
Well he was one of the best table tennis players, BUT he was epic same with applegren
This was in Thornaby Pavillion
@seekandthink Can you name a few of these "world top players" plz?
"Euro Asian final" - what's that competition?
It was completely clever by waldner to speed up the gap between points nd serve quickly with all his variations nd even wen yu was serving he returned the ball too quickly
didn't realize young Val Kilmer was so good at table tennis
Waldner took YOO out of his game and gave him a different look on the service too.
is that otcharov at 01:17 on the left side?
LOL at blond Waldner! Very unique :)
Last set is very weird.
I think that Yoo Nam Kyu didn't play his best at last set.
I don't know why but I guess, Waldner didn't win his own strength.
김동현 Yes he did. He played amazingly well.
Last set is not weird. Waldner kept the pressure and pace (like JW says in the post match interview) and YNK folded under pressure and gave up mentally or maybe JW won thanks to his strength - YNK was not strong enough to keep up. You can’t blame a winner for why the loser lost. Unless they play with an injury, but then it is also not the winners fault that the loser is injured. This is not ice skating on Olympic level. ;)
No, this is where the GREAT players show why they're GREAT. At 12-8 ahead, Waldner applies the pressure with 5 devastating serves - quick with spin, and YNK coudn't handle the returns. Waldner attacks with full force and YNK can't stop the stampede. Waldner wins all 5 of his serves to lead 17-8. YNK then gives up.
This table and floor color makes the ball visible. Ittf should ban those stupid light blue or gray tables
Better and multiple view angles, Better contrast color table&floor vs. ball. Why this is no possible nowadays ?
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@waldner97
No I do not agree.
Waldner is a legend, no doubt, but in different times there have been others who were at the top and is difficult to compare players in different periods.
Waldner built his career on a fantastic but very hidden service. I spoke to various world top players and I heard more than once that without such service Waldner would have lost much more, so I desume he was, more or less, as good as the other World top players (but for his service)
He is fantastic though.
Alvin Diaspar Well, what's stopping the top players from developing a great serve as well? Everybody was allowed to hide the ball back then.
Would you make the case that Ma Lin was not better than European players during the time because if you take away his forehand loop and replace it with a "normal" one, he would have lost much more?
That would be Liu Guoliang.Waldner was a rally player.
i love the olympics back in the days from 80 and the 90ths, now days its kinda boring
the first match but the others were ok.
Alan Lowe at 11.24
Thumbs up to Sweden :D Cuz i'm from Sweden :D
waldner just got free points and won the match pratically.
No such thing as free points - from 12-8 in the third set, his serves were too deceptive for the Korean, and JOW went on the attack devastatingly.
Not unlikely, impossible.
;D
3:08 "watch out" lol
Waldner could. Beat him again in the 89 teams.
Conclusion= Poker face works
It seemed that Yoo Nam Kyu won the 1988 Olympic game really because the match place was in Korea and the match table was deliberately made...
Game looks very slow paced compared to games nowdays.
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Now we are sure that Yoo Nam Kyu mother watched the video... 1 Dislike!
Capitulation.
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are you dreaming.
It's weird that now in 2018 with several techniques in place to slow the game down (no more speed glue, plastic ball), one would expect to see longer rallies. But no, now TT's been degraded to serve-and-whack, promoted by the Chinese. There are just no more rallies anymore ...
In F1, all the rules changes are to slow the cars down - yet each year the lap times get less and less, and the cars get quicker and quicker. Yes, in TT the rule changes were there to slow the ball down - but you're forgetting that athletes today are much more stronger and fitter, and with sports science, they're able to hit the balls with more power and spin, making the attacking shots much harder to defend against.
@@matonatomic True top 20 ITTF players from the 1980s are probably the same skill level as second division national league players.
Dramatically bad film angles and camera distance. Deserved better coverage. Pls fire the camera crew.
This was 1987.
And the angle was good, at least better than what we have today.
o.k.
Yoo Nam Kyu has completely surrendered at the end of the last set. It did spoil a little bit the beauty of the game in my opinion. It is a shame. He bowed to JOW's power, he acknowledged the Swedish was the best though^^
From 12-8 down, YNK coudln't handle the 5 deceptive serves from JOW and lost those 5 points without reply. He surrendered knowing that at 17-8 down, he can't win.
7:08 ooaahhhwwawahahhwaa
waldner is better
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Wtf? How is this sport even possible.