We've Got a Thing to Say to Japan Today | A Japanese Couple Reacts to Japan in the 1900s
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I don't know about in Japan, but I know in the US they transported large blocks of ice packed in straw by train or truck from places where it is cold to warmer areas.
This also meant that colder parts of a natiion made money by cutting ice and storing it for use during the summer. Ready to buy for your "icebox".
I like how you mentioned that there were so many things that were just daily life and everyone did it in their way but now there are so many rules about doing the same because it's tradition. Like, the "tradition" is changing the past instead of preserving it. Kimono was worn just everyday by everyone just like how we wear shirts. So just like how we sometimes button up our shirts or leave some buttons open because it's more comfortable or more stylish, they did the same with their kimonos, sometimes tying obi in different way or just tying it fast without caring about it. It's like if someone would suddenly tell us how to button our shirts. I think in Europe it happened with suits. Back in the days it was just normal thing everyone wore. Now we have rules like button up only the middle button or other things. While every suit stylist would just get a fever looking at how people wore suits in like 1950'. Or how those people were so cool while doing kyuudou or so happy doing nihonbuyou but today being happy is almost disrespectful. And it changed just recently. We also have some "traditions" that are just accidents. Like, we always don't eat regular meat on christmas eve, instead we eat fish. For few decades we were partially under Russian rule so we didn't have anything. But carp was big, cheap and usually the only available fish. So it was promoted as the best option for christmas eve because it was the only option. And today people are shocked if anyone serves any other fish on christmas eve. People are saying how bad carp is, how it smells, how it has so many bones but if anyone chooses any better fish it's the end of the world. "Because it's tradition". It's not. Traditionally we ate any fish, it could be carp. But it turned into carp only because of problems. And now everyone protects it like if it was something sacred. I think every country is like this. They have so many things from the past that were just normal everyday life, then they apply rules to it and say it's a long time tradition. Or people doing something they don't want because it's tradition but faced with an even older custom that's a lot nicer they suddenly call it trying to go back to being cave men. People take away all happiness from the past and force people to follow made up rules instead, saying it's tradition while the custom was just a normal thing and rules are just made a second ago, but if you want to do something even older just the way it was done because it makes you happy, they will suddenly forget about "protecting the tradition" and would call it bad names only because it makes someone happy. It's like if people wanted past to be sad. Like if they saw tradition as a formality not a part of life. So they apply rules to something that used to be freedom and call freedom wildness.
Poland with this is a bit bizarre, there is some minority of people who think that habits from Polish Socialist Republic are tradition... But some who are conservative are just a mix of hard catholics with... americanism, its wack.
@@7TPdwCzolgu You're right! We really have lots of people who just make up their traditions because it was somethng they did when they were small, even if it was temporary and just push it on others. But I hope we can soon be a lot better, with kinder people and better government^^ Also, you're really great! Remember you're loved and needed!
@@Meanness_Scar Ohhh thank you for the unexpected gentleness ^_^ o7
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I really love the combination of japanese and western clothes/styles. It would be cool to see that come back.
Yes, it looked very stylish
Same! The hats are nice and those long school uniforms were actually kinda cool.
You raise an interesting point when you remark on how what is considered traditional today was just a normal every day occurence back then, and the people were so casual about it. It makes me wonder, what do we casually do in our every day lives in 2022 that will be revered and considered traditional in 100 years from now? Vacuuming a house? Taking a shower? Cooking?
I mean rock music is considered classical music in one of the star trek movie.
I guess I can see that happening...
One thing that comes to mind for me is shaving. I use an old silver razor from the 20s. I dont really use it for the tradition or oddity. I use it because it gives a clean shave and it costs almost nothing to replace the razor inside. That being said, it does make me feel a certain way when i use it. I some times think back to what everyday life was like in the 1920s .Maybe in 100 years we wont be using razors to shave. Maybe everyone will have a laser hair remover in their home and people will use razors to shave for the tradition or oddity.
Playing video games. It's considered bad form if you don't drop at least one slur in conversation in the lobby.
Hey Shogo! Can you interview your parents, or your wife's parents about what Japan was like when they was children? ♥️
Oh that would make an excellent video
That would be a great Video!
Presuming they are still with us.
great idea but maybe a grand parent or someone born before WWII is better
That would be great!!
there's a surprising amount of change in a mere 100 years.
You can see the gradual change between the films
In the 1840s, the US was shipping ice as far as cuba, so the ice could have come from Hakodate; Industrial freezers were running by the 1860s, so there might have been a factory in Japan by 1914.
The amount of kids compared to the aging community nowadays is soo wild to me
Depressing
Why? Its the same people. 😉
@@wargriffin5 Same people, Different era.
@@wargriffin5 It means they're dying out.Just as South-Korea and the West. What happened in the last 50 years? It is a real shame that a people can disappear like that.
Meiji and Taisho era Japan is the time when Japan's population was growing rapidly. Hence why their are lots of kids in this old footages.
It looks like the flags in the girls hair was a Japanese and United Kingdom flags so I'm guessing it must have been an diplomat event or as you say a cultural exchange.
It was probably filmed for people who couldn't attend to share some things from Japanese culture. Also the bit where the Western guy took liberties with the young ladies on the bench was a not too subtle but funny reminder to visitors that they needed to respect the locals.
Yeah. Most likely the film is celebration of Japan-British diplomacy. Showing some unique Japanese culture. I bet the 'friscky' Westerner is a Brit doing a comedy skit for the Home audience as fun skit but also a lesson to British citizen who want to go to Japan to behave themselves among the ladies.
Britain and Japan had formal alliance between 1902 and 1921, with Britain wanting to contain Russia.
The balls disappearing from the frame probably isn't because of how fast they were moving. Programs that detect and remove dust, dirt, and scratches from film often mistake things that are moving a lot for dust, dirt, and scratches and remove them from the frame during restoration. This is why restorations often still require manual intervention.
I love your reactions to all of the children running around!
One of the things I love about watching old videos and reading primary historical sources about everyday stuff is that you realize that both people from the past were very close to how we are today, and that many things we call "traditions" and "how the world has always been" are actually very recent and much more strict than in the past!
Things in Japan like how the kimono was worn, rules of different sports, but also in Europe things like who and and how certain clothes like dresses or heeled shoes were worn, or how the hair was put up! The past is much much more different than how we usually think it was, and at the same much, much more similar than how we are today!
4:43 "the number of kids!"
Yes truly a rarity in Japan today
Harumi with her new haircut looks amazing! 😍
Fun fact: both my parents are Québecois (French Canadian) but they decided to live in Kyoto for 3 years before I was born, but they left to come back to Montreal 4 months before I was born, so I would’ve been born in Kyoto
It's so interesting to see videos from Japan's past! I really hope that Japan will take care to preserve its traditions. That includes the geisha culture, the festivals and many other things.
The look of the kimonos is great and the fact that they just combined the kimono with western clothes already around 1900, I think is great! Your video on the combination of kimono/Western clothing was also fantastic!
The really old footage has sound and music added. Film from that time didn't record sound. Some of it looks sped up because the person recording was cranking too fast. The camera at that time would be hand-cranked so speeds would vary. The early days of film, a cameraman that was consistent would earn more as a professional.
I know the reason why the figures were moving a little fast, cameras they would’ve used were hand cranked. I looked up on world fairs in Japan there was an expo in 1871, 1851 There was a start in international expositions this would explain why there was different country flags in the ladies hairs.
This is probably one of my favorite reaction videos. I know there are a lot more of these old film restorations out there. I would really like to see more. 👍
So many children wearing hats in the early 20th Century. I remember wearing hats to school (taking them off when entering a classroom) and I recall that it was difficult to keep one's hat because of all the children (and adults) who would snatch them.
I was really intrigued by the hair styles. Could you do a video exploring old vs new vs traditional hair styles for men, women, and children? Thanks for making great videos!
I would be interested in that too!
Yes, that would be interesting!
I'd love this video!
That sounds like a great idea! Thank you so much!
Also adding the different hair accessories used and how they varied depending on status/ role in society?
It's the film stip frame and speed that is moving the dancer fast.
Speaking of old Japanese entertainment forms, I would be interested in learning more about kamishibai. I don't believe it's as well known outside Japan as kabuki, Noh, and bunraku.
This was a really fun video idea! I'd love to see more like this.
12:21 Their reaction was so perfect!
It’s so interesting to see how much things have changed since then
This was so great! I like watching videos from around that time too. It's a big thing to see their faces and to see them living. They were as alive as I am now.
Britain and Japan were Allies back in the day, so 15:12 may be a diplomatic meeting between the two countries. Very interesting!
What a door to the past! It's awesome to see that all those traditional arts and practices were a part of daily life in Japan at that time, thank you for showing us this!
Honestly: I am quite surprised how most of those "special rules" about traditional culture you guys have today were not there a century ago. O.=.o
Seems like all those leaders of all those cultural arts kinda made them up just to be relevant (hough probably also to streamline the teaching of it. It's kind of the same as teaching normal things at schools I guess. If each school would teach something totally different or in a completely different way, it'd be difficult for everyone to be able to learn what they need to learn. =/c )
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I went to the Japanese Cultural exhibition in London at Buckingham palace, which displayed items received by the royal family for a few centuries as well as spoke about what people believe Japanese people looked like as well as the cultural exchange between Japan and UK around the Meiji period. Very interesting.
It is interesting to see the differences in fashion between the Taishō, Shōwa, and Meiji eras.
Edit: Also I agree with your assessment, in the Meiji video they do seem more relaxed and particularly noticeable for me with the kyūdō demonstration. In many of the group demonstrations I have seen, they tend to either release at regular intervals or in some sort of order, while in this one they all seemed to be drawing and releasing at their own individual pace, but it also felt more natural because of that.
Seeing old videos like this is cool😁 You can learn allot by watching old videos such as these. What I would find interesting is if anyone living in Japan who watched these if they might happen to catch old family relatives in these videos by chance and what their thoughts and reactions would be?
It is also tradition that times _must_ and always do change.
It's unfortunaly alot darker than it seems. Infant mortality rate was more than 90 times greater than it is today, and 40% of children died before the age of 5. And with the wars during this time there would have been alot of orphans too, skewing the perspective even more. Bear that in mind when you think there are few children in Japan today compared to back then.
It was so interesting how you bring up the number of kids. I know about the aging population, but I never even thought about how on the street you must see so few kids!
Where I live you see tons of kids out during the day so I couldn't imagine how different it would be without seeing and hearing them.
Shogo Team, I heard about some ancient buildings being abandoned or sold too cheap in Kyoto, and some foreigners are investing in restoration. Can I suggest you to talk about it? There's too many historical sites, belongins and interesting objects inside this buildings (I saw once a building with old samurai swords forgotten within)... Thank you so much for bringing so many valuable contents to us. Harumi-san looks so bright and beautiful, just waiting for Zen-chan to come 🥰 Regards from Brazil!
What is normal today, will be tradition tomorrow. It is fascinating, what you said about wearing a Kimono/Yukata. How normal daylife can be ruled later
I love this video!! It was so amazingly done! I laughed so hard when the man squeezed himself between the maikos and then they ran away like "Nope"😂 Also love how they put Gion Kouta in the background on the third vid. As much as I like modern Japan, traditional Japan is the real deal for me! It has the feeling and the vibe like no other ❤
So interesting to see the videos and your discussion/evaluation. Thank you!
So, that was the standard sign for kakigori (i.e., just the kori kanji). And this was the popular fashion to have Hakodate style kakigori. This was Tokyo actually. The Meiji vid dances are taken by the British Embassy and was a diplomatic thingie.
The flag might have been to support their allies in WW1
That probably happened before the ww1. I think It was 1912.
they move really fast in the 1900s videos because of the frame rate. Same with the kids playing with the ball that the ball is almost invisible, the film is just not fast enough to capture it. Anything more than a 12 FPS we register it as a motion and old films usually have 14-24 frames per second, which gives the effect that everyone moves faster.
To me it was just interesting seeing how many Japanese children there were and what they wore. Isn’t it amazing we have this footage? It’s like using a Time Machine.
I wonder if the combination of Japanese and British flags in the women's hair was to commemorate the Anglo-Japanese pact, but that was just a little later, in 1902, I think.
4:40 in the 1800s and early 1900s, before electrical fridges were invented, people used big blocks of ice to cool down and perserve food, at least in the west. For this purpose ice was brought from far up north. It was sawed from lakes and rivers, insulated with saw dust and shipped down to the cities.
15:00 they might be celebrating the Anglo-Japanese alliance of 1902, looking at the flags.
I've seen these old video's, loved watching them. Now I get the change to watch it again.
great fun! Canada Archives has 1900-1920 restored videos & it is fascinating even when not of my city. Happy Hollidays
I can just imagine one of the martial arts practitioners from those times walking into a modern training session where everything is formal, and almost mythological, and just being baffled, or laughing at how serious the atmosphere is.
Love this video, I was a history major and it’s always incredible to see what you read about in action if possible !
It is quite comforting to know that I am not the only one who enjoys watching old videos to see how times have changed. However after watching your reaction video, I have to say that the culture is quite similar to my own country.
Old Japan: All kids , No elders
New Japan: All elders, No kids.
And the inbetweeners in both scenarios are the adults!
Pretty much
These videos of life back then are so precious!
Excellent Video! 😁 I seen this video before i was amazed to see a video camera from that day of age. eveything has such vintage look.very interesting watch.
Thanks Shogo... Have a Happy New Year
Awesome idea for a video! It's great to get both a male and female perspective on Japanese history
I find the markets most fascinating. Thanks 😄
Mrs Eats did a video on how Japan went from traditional markets to having 7-Elevens.
Fascinating!
My suspicion is that these cultures which were much more natural and relaxed at the time became enforced as a means of self preservation. In these videos we see the introduction of western culture in Japan and I'm sure some worried that those differences would be lost to the blob if nothing was done about it. So I believe that's the reason they became so strict but if they hadn't, many of the things that people love about Japan would have been lost and we probably wouldn't be here enjoying Shogo's content.
I would love for you guys to react to more videos like these.
i first thought this was 7 months ago but nevermind it was actually pretty early
Sad reality is that today people are getting amazed by seeing so many kids , without youth the fate of a nation is doomed as seen in most East asia
there is also a picture online of samurai at the sphinx that was photographed in 1864
If you think about it before western modernization, Japan was already modernized with a certain style and education. The balancing post might have been preparation for fishing boats.
Your excited reaction to the cherry blossoms was so cute.
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By 1913 there was already a very robust movie industry. There is a fair chance the thing you are thinking is Kabuki (specifically that advertisement for a story about people on a train) could have just been movies
Can we upvote this? I remember reading papers on early cinema culture in Japan. I'd love for him to do a video on Benshi and Kabuki influences in early motion pictures^^
I love old pix and videos of anywhere.
Going down the river on logs reminds me of the lumberjack games that happen in the old logging towns😂 They look so dangerous!
March 14'th, 1885 Gilbert and Sullivan's The Mikado staged in London. This was one of their smash hit musicals, HMS Pinafore, Pirates of Penzance and The Mikado were the three biggies of many, many plays. The plays were knocked-off everywhere in The United States. The Mikado started a true love affair between Japan and The West. We see the two girls dancing with naive union jacks across from radiating sun flags in their hair. The fellow who flirts with the ladies and is humorously rejected is wearing what I would call an English cut of suit. His face has a bright strip of white down the nose, he may be a westerner or a mock-westerner.
4:30 - Before modern refridgerators, selling ice from cold regions was a commonplace practice. In Britain they got their ice from Norway, from example. It was shipped in large bricks packed in sawdust for insulation and though there was some loss on the way, the bulk of the produce could stay frozen for months. I'm sure that was also the case with ice from Hakodate.
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I'm just guessing, but I think early cameras had mechanical limitations that caused a frame rate that's much slower than human vision, so the sequences had to be sped up to compensate
I'm not a video photographer or anything so I don't know for sure :)
This is a great video though... I enjoyed seeing a modern perspective and more of Shogo's humorous side... also it's so fantastic seeing Harumi being more vocal! You two have wonderful chemistry in these videos!
I very much enjoyed the archery scene. I felt surprised when you said that the archers held a second arrow "in their pinky finger." And the archers kept hold of that second arrow while they used the first arrow.
Arigato gozaimasu (*bows*)
I have always thought the Japanese People have such an Honorable Culture...Also it really is amazing how much the Culture has in so many ways remained unchanged...
Kimono now: THERE IS 1MM CREASE IN THE OBI 😭😭
Kimono then: WHO CAN TIE OBI THE FASTEST
So cool!
British flag could be due to visitors from the UK when they were developing a relationship which formed an official alliance 1902-1923.
It's all shot outside because there probably wasn't enough lighting inside for the cameras of that time to pick anything up
Hello Shogo your friend from the USA Rudy thanks again for your video it looks awesome some great footage of the pass ❤
Gracias my friend thanks ok
Fitting upload as iam replaying shogun 2 totalwar fall of the samurai!
Michael Rogge has lots of videos he personally made of t
Japan in the 1960's. I and my wife like visting Japan now and then. Sad that some stores we visted in Akihabara is now gone.
Oooo i have feeling like i Saw you Can stretch pinky thats Nice!!!!
Harumi is so pretty! Love videos with her!
(Points to a guy who looks like he was alive before people invented agriculture) Yeah he's probably 40 or 50
I think the school was he school that was turned into the international manga museum in Kyoto.
Its really neat seeing different cultural perspectives. Really enjoy these videos Shogo.
Hey shogo I know that on UA-cam michigan gets a bad rap but don't judge a book by its cover. I've been to michigan myself and as long as you avoid Detroit and don't go there I think michigan is worth visiting at least once. I think the bad rap is mainly due to the city Detroit. They only visit that one city, give it a try! Or a thumbs up if you'll at least think about it
Earlier this year, I had the joy of seeing Yasujiro Ozu's Days of Youth from 1929, a wonderfully whimsical silent movie from a director known for more dramatic productions. After listening to you both talking about these silent films you watched today, I would love to watch that movie again just for the clothing, the two male protagonists were dressed exactly as you have mentioned with the long kimono type pants worn by students, I forget what you call them(Sorry!).
So thankyou so much, it has 'coloured in' things I have seen before but not really understood. I wonder though, if there was a more practical side to adopting some western style fashions, whilst construction of western style clothes is more complicated, they tend to use less fabric, but are also less restrictive of movement? I ask this because after watching Billy Matsunaga make a kimono, I see that there is very little cutting involved, all the parts seem to be rectangles and the sculpting is mostly in how the kimono is arranged on the body and held in place with the obi. I've never tried to wear one, nor even had the opportunity to just handle one to explore it's construction for myself, so I may be way off. This why your video today has been really interesting.
Hi
So nice!! ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Awesome! Albert Kahn's work is a must for old photos and videos. He took them all around the world. I can only advise you all to take a look 😊✨
Hi Shogo! Can you tell me what are the wooden weapons (tsuburitos?) Behind you in these videos. Are they mock guns? I don't find them a form
It is a shakuhachi, its a type of flute
@@kaim2437 Rumour has it that these (like any instrument) in the hands of an uninitiated player can be considered a weapon.😋
Those are my Shakuhachi bamboo flutes! I’ve been training the flute for about a year and half now too😊
But as you say some may have used it as a secret weapon too!
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Nice video
"Kimono police" are strangers (mainly women in their 40 - 60s) who suddenly point out the mistakes of kimono dressing.
This is HILARIOUSS! > // <
I'd love to be part of this police force
Amazing insight to ancient Japan! Unfortunatly, less children is a worldwide problem...
18:00 really insightful comments of cultural evolution. Why are certain periods chosen, or 'held on a pedestal' as traditional?
Super cool awesome I loved it and very interesting❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️⚔️✌️
Fun!