Loved this video - Very informative thank you. One thing though... I don't agree you should disrupt unused ports (bungs) and tamper with their o-rings. Especially if 'picking'' them out and re-installing - Probably best to just leave them alone until overhaul time IMHO.
This is awesome. Many thanks. I too am interested in servicing my own kit. My reason is that I feel capable and probably care as much or more than any LDS tech. How hard is it to get the any special tools or random parts?
Tools are available try Dive GearExpress parts are a bit of an issue sometimes You can get them on ebay mostly from Europe if service kits show up grab a few as they are hard to come unless you know someone that runs a dive shop and would sell it to you but often they dot want to do that.
Great video Thank you! Keep posting staff like this don't listen to negative comments, people should make their own choices, also you said a disclaimer that if not comfortable go to authorised dealer. But there also should be a choice, if you technically savvy why not to do it yourself and follow the manual. Please clarify, when you assemble spring adjuster (part 24 from the manual) how far you screwed it in initially to be in around required IP pressure, manual also missing this step completely?
Thank you for your positive comment and feedback, much appreciated 👍 regarding the spring how far you tighten it there is no actual reference I usually remember more or less how deep it was sitting before disassembly and fine tune with the gauge after. Make sure it has solid grip on few threads more or less flash with the top of the base from there you can fine tune later with intermediate pressure gauge attached. I do recommend at least the basic tools to have before you proceed.
Have you ever taken a apex TX40 regulator apart? As i think that i might have a re-badged unit..it looks like the same thing. I bet only 3/4 dv manufacturers world wide. USA, Italy, china etc
@@cliffordwells2793 it looks similar but it's not the same you can google search TX40 first stage service manual it is available on line. Question is if you can get replacement parts if needed. Also if you are comfortable taking it apart it's up to you it is your life support underwater. You will need some specialty tools and gauges to make the adjustments as well
Just for Scuba Nerds lot's of small bits and pieces be careful and take Your time if You attempt it. I know video of this kind will have lots of negative feedback as there is many ways guys are doing this better or even wost, it works for me. If You can for Your safty always use new Orings when tearing down the regs, I replace them every two years as per manual but when doing just cleaning as in this video i re lube and ispect and replace only if oring is not in good shape.
awesome and clear video! Apeks recommends that parts such as the high pressure poppet be replaced anytime the regulator is opened. has opening, cleaning and then reassembling the regulator using the same components ever given you any problems?
No, never had a problem. Apeks actually recommends that all the orings suppose to be replaced as well when serving. Im guilty sometimes when don't have replacement kits I'll do carefully inspect all pieces and put it together. Never had any issue but again ill do 100 dives max a year, NOT LAST 2 YEARS DO.
You can google PDF manual it lists all tools you can get most tools from: including gauges and so on www.divegearexpress.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwg47KBRDk7LSu4LTD8eEBEiQAO4O6r6QgQfRSvGs7WtdEKgUhphNtsQcjeUs2kesRoGcV9AUaAjm58P8HAQ
It's nice you have the service manual, but you've missed few points. Few advises: #1 I do not see you using Torque wrench which is quite essential for brass threads. You will be amazed how much more pressure you use to tighten something by hand and "feeling it". Very crusial for the DIN thread cause it should be tightened at 20nM. #2 Use latex gloves. Even skin oil is a potential danger for higher O2 mixes #3 The advice from Ian for a brass pick is valid. Do not use dental pick. #4 I know you tend to re-use o-rings cause it's cheaper, but believe me once you open up a 1st stage you ALWAYS have to put new o-rings. Why? Cause o-rings tend to shape with time and with high pressures there they can leak. #5 You ALWAYS have to close the tank valve, release pressure from the system before you make any adjustment to the 1st stage intermediate pressure. Believe me there is a reason for that and it's written in the service manual. -- Nice on using CrystoLube!
Lots of good Points especially the torque wrench may invest in to it, I think few years ago i watched your video to make this attempt it was awesome and very helpful. You did not use torqued either 😉 I have serviced my regs ever since. Apeks calls for new O-ring every 2 years but if i see something not right out of shape I change it anyway and every other year just cleaning. Never had any issues with dental pick just have to be carefull. I don't dig deep in to the brass just catch the oring and pull it off
@@AdventureTravelandScuba Thanks. Lots of time passed since my first video. Trainings, lots of services, etc. Sharing points from experience. You're right Apeks calls for service every 2y or 200 dives a year (if I recall correctly), but that means - no dismantling of the regulator. Easier way to apply CristoLube is to pour small amount in a mini plastic bag, put the o-rings inside and rub them gently. Good luck!
Many errors are slipped in your procedure. 1 step in particular will put users at risk. Take this video down before you kill someone. There’s a reason this stuff is not public! This is not the last version of the manual. Very irresponsible to do this!
there is a lot more videos that show this why take it down anyone can make his decision and i did say it's for someone who feels comfortable with this or interested how its done and there is many ways that even service techs do this procedure I expected some people will be bushing it.
Loved this video - Very informative thank you.
One thing though... I don't agree you should disrupt unused ports (bungs) and tamper with their o-rings. Especially if 'picking'' them out and re-installing - Probably best to just leave them alone until overhaul time IMHO.
This is awesome. Many thanks. I too am interested in servicing my own kit. My reason is that I feel capable and probably care as much or more than any LDS tech. How hard is it to get the any special tools or random parts?
Tools are available try Dive GearExpress parts are a bit of an issue sometimes You can get them on ebay mostly from Europe if service kits show up grab a few as they are hard to come unless you know someone that runs a dive shop and would sell it to you but often they dot want to do that.
@@AdventureTravelandScuba Thank you for all help with this.
Great video Thank you! Keep posting staff like this don't listen to negative comments, people should make their own choices, also you said a disclaimer that if not comfortable go to authorised dealer. But there also should be a choice, if you technically savvy why not to do it yourself and follow the manual. Please clarify, when you assemble spring adjuster (part 24 from the manual) how far you screwed it in initially to be in around required IP pressure, manual also missing this step completely?
Thank you for your positive comment and feedback, much appreciated 👍 regarding the spring how far you tighten it there is no actual reference I usually remember more or less how deep it was sitting before disassembly and fine tune with the gauge after. Make sure it has solid grip on few threads more or less flash with the top of the base from there you can fine tune later with intermediate pressure gauge attached. I do recommend at least the basic tools to have before you proceed.
Have you ever taken a apex TX40 regulator apart? As i think that i might have a re-badged unit..it looks like the same thing.
I bet only 3/4 dv manufacturers world wide.
USA, Italy, china etc
@@cliffordwells2793 it looks similar but it's not the same you can google search TX40 first stage service manual it is available on line. Question is if you can get replacement parts if needed. Also if you are comfortable taking it apart it's up to you it is your life support underwater. You will need some specialty tools and gauges to make the adjustments as well
Great video and very informative. Could you provide a list of used tools or links to purchase?
They are all listed in owners manual
Just for Scuba Nerds lot's of small bits and pieces be careful and take Your time if You attempt it. I know video of this kind will have lots of negative feedback as there is many ways guys are doing this better or even wost, it works for me. If You can for Your safty always use new Orings when tearing down the regs, I replace them every two years as per manual but when doing just cleaning as in this video i re lube and ispect and replace only if oring is not in good shape.
awesome and clear video! Apeks recommends that parts such as the high pressure poppet be replaced anytime the regulator is opened. has opening, cleaning and then reassembling the regulator using the same components ever given you any problems?
No, never had a problem. Apeks actually recommends that all the orings suppose to be replaced as well when serving. Im guilty sometimes when don't have replacement kits I'll do carefully inspect all pieces and put it together. Never had any issue but again ill do 100 dives max a year, NOT LAST 2 YEARS DO.
20min in ultrasonic cleaner, apeks service menual says 6min, why do you soak it that much longer, is 6min not enough ?
I don't think it will hurt anything I find it comes out cleaner
Thanks for showing, pretty informative... But i wouldnt do that by myself. This should be done by experienced service partners...
Hi,
Can you list the tools that you use, please?
Thanks
You can google PDF manual it lists all tools you can get most tools from: including gauges and so on
www.divegearexpress.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwg47KBRDk7LSu4LTD8eEBEiQAO4O6r6QgQfRSvGs7WtdEKgUhphNtsQcjeUs2kesRoGcV9AUaAjm58P8HAQ
It's nice you have the service manual, but you've missed few points.
Few advises:
#1 I do not see you using Torque wrench which is quite essential for brass threads. You will be amazed how much more pressure you use to tighten something by hand and "feeling it".
Very crusial for the DIN thread cause it should be tightened at 20nM.
#2 Use latex gloves. Even skin oil is a potential danger for higher O2 mixes
#3 The advice from Ian for a brass pick is valid. Do not use dental pick.
#4 I know you tend to re-use o-rings cause it's cheaper, but believe me once you open up a 1st stage you ALWAYS have to put new o-rings. Why? Cause o-rings tend to shape with time and with high pressures there they can leak.
#5 You ALWAYS have to close the tank valve, release pressure from the system before you make any adjustment to the 1st stage intermediate pressure. Believe me there is a reason for that and it's written in the service manual.
--
Nice on using CrystoLube!
Why encourage such behavior... I see dead divers soon...
Lots of good Points especially the torque wrench may invest in to it, I think few years ago i watched your video to make this attempt it was awesome and very helpful. You did not use torqued either 😉 I have serviced my regs ever since. Apeks calls for new O-ring every 2 years but if i see something not right out of shape I change it anyway and every other year just cleaning. Never had any issues with dental pick just have to be carefull. I don't dig deep in to the brass just catch the oring and pull it off
@@AdventureTravelandScuba Thanks.
Lots of time passed since my first video. Trainings, lots of services, etc.
Sharing points from experience.
You're right Apeks calls for service every 2y or 200 dives a year (if I recall correctly), but that means - no dismantling of the regulator.
Easier way to apply CristoLube is to pour small amount in a mini plastic bag, put the o-rings inside and rub them gently.
Good luck!
Thank You I like your comments not like some other people just bush the video completely we learn and improve with time, thank you very much
@@dominiquegingras7334 You can't be serious - This is just mindless trawling... begging for responses yeah?
Many errors are slipped in your procedure. 1 step in particular will put users at risk. Take this video down before you kill someone. There’s a reason this stuff is not public! This is not the last version of the manual. Very irresponsible to do this!
there is a lot more videos that show this why take it down anyone can make his decision and i did say it's for someone who feels comfortable with this or interested how its done and there is many ways that even service techs do this procedure I expected some people will be bushing it.
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Dominique Gingras : As if... That's just more hysterical rubbish from those seeking to profit. I call BS