I Learned The Hard Way | Wuthering Waves
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- Discussing major resource and echo issues many others and I have found in Wuthering Waves 1.0
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Edited by: Georgy ;3
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
2:27 Problems with Echos
4:05 Tacet Fields
6:50 Synthesizing Gold Tuners
8:16 Too Expensive to Level Echos
9:05 Tectone Feeding Leveled Echo
10:59 Being Cautious with Leveling
13:00 Using Echos as Experience
14:06 Echo System is Flawed
15:50 Interface Quality of Life
16:42 Discard Function
17:37 Craftable Weapon Materials
19:40 Outro
#wutheringwaves #wuwa #gacha - Ігри
Im pretty sure we are supposed to get kinda meh rewards until world level 6 where you will probably get 25 or 30 tuners per field, im not saying im happy with it, but I think it was a balancing choice.
Yep. Genshin released with the max world limit so resources werent limited. Wuwa couldnt be delayed since there was a lot of setbacks and alot of the world and story was remade.
You can check the echo drop from backpack and sort by time added.
Its a World Level Issue. Genshin released with the max world limit available so resources werent limited. Wuwa couldnt be delayed any longer since there was a lot of setbacks and alot of the world and story was remade so farming feels imcomplete.
Biggest problem fr I cant even joke around with my Echo builds like making Verina as Dps since I'll lack resources for the rest
Just make a generic atk% set ti use on every dps
mf I didn't even know that you can merge echos like that until recently, I've been stuck with purples and only a few golds from those "red bosses".
very nice video
i really agree, i think our purple and blue tuners should have more usage then they have right now, because at data bank level 15 we don't even get blue echo drops anymore.
if you're still enjoying the game going backpack then 2nd tab > sort by time added only 2 screens, instead of 4
Common Emi W take
There's one or two agreements but moreso criticisms I have as to how she pointed out these various aspects of the game, so I'll work my way through each:
The lower tier Tuner material - not being able to convert them into the higher tier or sell in some way is a very odd mistake that they will need to find a fix for. Whether that be by letting you synth them towards higher tiers or even just being able to sell for shells, either would be fine in my book.
The EXP capsules from the tacet field itself - she focuses on only the single yellow, but you also get 8 purple per run as well. Yes, it's not a major difference but it's still not as bad as is claimed in regards to how much exp material you can get out of each use of plates.
The fodder echoes themselves - we may not be able to use un-upgraded echoes as exp fodder, but being able to throw them into a blender to try for better echoes without having to fight for them makes it fine imo.
The constant emphasis of "time" - the game has only been out officially for a little over a week, and given the model of the game it's not meant to be a rush to being a powerhouse. You hop in for a little bit every day to do dailies and then move on and play something else. If you don't like that king of long term casual play then gacha games are not meant for you.
"4 screens deep to see stats" - this is just outright false. Given she's playing on M+K you can simple press B to open your general inventory screen, with the tab for the echoes being literally the second one.
To also add to the points of not being able to use them as exp or being able to see stats "easily", I actually genuinely wonder if she's even *AWARE* of the data merge function in the data bank that let's you burn useless echoes for an rng chance at a better one or even ones you haven't gotten a tier of yet from the overworld. This fact alone makes me seriously question how much of this "review" is just knee-jerk instead of being informative and thought out like a review of a game and it's systems should be.
The complaint about the weapon molds - rng sucks, you may go for a bit without getting many or even any of these. But considering the game is meant to be another casual play sort of game and not a rush to get it all done at once, even using Genshin as an example for weapon materials is a bit ridiculous given the weapon material drops from bosses in Genshin aren't exactly super frequent either.
To end off, using something like Genshin as a comparison to some of the systems doesn't really work in many cases given how the systems are in many ways similar so acting like they're "different" is just bizarre and nonsensical, when you can literally 1:1 compare some of the aspects she complained about and see how the investment and casual nature is practically if not outright identical. Do I wish we had a way to repurpose lower tier tuners? Absolutely, but nearly all of her other points are rendered moot in some way because of how there ARE ways to reuse other things and how some systems are not designed to be "get this higher quality material every run and then not have anything to do after a week because you already have all the upgraded craftable weapons and even merged them". This game is meant to be played over a longer period of time, not all at once like an RPG single player game similar to something like God of War.
I noticed these issues too. And frankly, hearing you voice them out was such a relief! I hope Kuro listens.
Yes that's thing I also start to notice devs should allow the echos use for upgrade
Well said devs should here this
You can craft 5 low level echos into 1 higher tier echo tho .
I agree, you have to click more just to see the equipped echos and other stuffs.
Also we need QOL for Echo collection like a hotkey or something, it annoying to click all the way just to see what echo you are missing.
I completely agree they definitely need to do something about the echo exps and tuners
21:43 you have two elemental main stat selector in the Illusive realm shop
ima be real, the problem for me is the substats, they need to make them higher. HSR essentially went in the wrong direction from genshin and even though you get more of them they lowered the stat increases overall and so it very readily becomes a waste of time because your vying for so little. There's no control variable, so nobody really has a gauge of how much more dmg your getting from grinding out echoes, i don't know what is it in Wuwa but in HSR it's around 17% dmg increase per relic at max tilt, so that's all up approx 100% increase in dmg from substats - that sounds like a lot but the time you commit it just really isn't imo. Also 'max tilit' is incredibly unlikely, so your average after maybe 6 months is just over half that.
Yah I agree the game is definitely fun but these QOL stuff needs to be added for it to be the best it can be for sure. Especially the part of having a main stat picker honestly I don’t get why gacha games don’t have an overall elemental damage bonus as a stat. Then it will make me not want to rip my hair out with the wrong main stats for the set I want especially since this game builds would like us to have 2 elemental damage bonus main stats 😭
I think even a substat reroller that takes 1 month to get would be nice, but I definitely am aware that I may be just spoiled by other games with these systems.
@@EmiMatcha this is the initial release of the game tho.. and still what would u want? 30% back resources(tuners) is good enough.. i think, unless you want 100% resources back, if that is the case then there would be no reason, you can just upgrade everything and have no consequence, you need to manage resources as it should be..
I really wish they can make the un needed echos usable as exp
I did 3x Weekly Bosses. Got 1 weapon crafting material drop. FML.
That's really good, amazing really. 1 Universal material tor any weapon type and considering we're low world level, it could potentially give more/often in the future.
I've went 3 months in that other game without a billet, and after I did get one, it was for a weapon type I didn't need.
It took me another 2 months to actually get one for the type I actually needed. I legit had more gacha 4* weapons than I was able to craft in that time.
The point of the echoes being farmed endlessly is for you to be able to spend most of your time farming for the echo of the set with the main stat you're looking for.
Think about it, if you can just farm for echoes and use echoes as exp to upgrade echoes then what's the point of Tacet Fields? It's a gacha game and the main selling point of these games is to gatekeep you from farming end-game artifacts/relics/echoes in one week. It's their system and it's been their system since.
It's not a problem, it's a business model. You keep farming and farming and farming for these echoes to "perfect" your characters to clear end-game content faster, easier in which the rewards are to upgrade your characters so you can clear end-game content faster, easier. It's an unending cycle and that is the gameplay loop.
Thats not spoiled. I didn't get a weapon mold in any of the 3 bosses last week and now I have to wait an entire week just for the chance to try again 😡
But even worse than that, im sick and tired of FIGHTING the camera and targeting system every battle. Getting hit because i cant move the eay I want or look the direction I want.
This is a big problem very few are talking about it but imo we are still in UL30+ we dont know if we reach UL40 or 60 maybe the drops will change however if doesnt we're fuck
I have 820 of the blue tuners.
when she said "I'm a very patient gacha player" I click subscribe button.
echo exp and tuners are very bad. i got no more as a f2p and doing tacet fields are a waste of waveplates. it feelsbad
Also i don't think having good qol systems in a game makes you spoiled. This is def a huge over sight on the devs part.
They should have let you use lower tier echos to lvl gold ones or at least let us destroy them turning them into the exp tube's. Same with the tuner items
Maybe with a limit yeah.
Being able to use all of them for exp/tubers would mean you have an unlimited amount in theory.
In which case it would completely remove the stamina sink for the game = no good for them (devs/publishers)
Again, I do think it's lacking at the moment, so I agree on maybe being able to use some for exp, with a daily/weekly l.imit
@HanzorRaphael yeh possibly with a limit but as far as I'm aware, there is already a limit...i.e you cannot farm the over world forever. The mobs run out and drops are not guaranteed. I suppose you could join a friend's world but still
@@ArchAngelKnights Oh that's only for the mob materials.
You can still get Echoes as those don't have any limit.
poppin off these days
I haven’t slept properly since this game released 🥹
@@EmiMatcha u only live once I guess..
19:28 how is that spoiled by Genshin? genshin billets are also RNG, aren't they¿ 🙃
Ofc I think wuwa should improve that, it should guarantee one weapon material for each weekly boss
omg that truly is the worst part of farming, its annoying
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Was that a sfx from Fear and Hunger in the intro or am I tripping?
Existed before Fear and Hunger, that game uses a lot of open source sounds.
@@mcflufferkinsThanks for elucidating
Arlan and Peppy are missing from this game. What character am I suppose to main?!
You main something called touching grass 🙏
Girl love your video, but please fix that clumpy mascara xo
Yep. Definitely a spoiled take for a gacha game 😬👌