Florida residents return home to damage, searching for assistance following Debby
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- After nearly a week of high water blocking access to the homes in Laurel Meadows, Friday marks a new day for many. Although still flooded, most of the water inside the homes have gone.
So much press on Laurel Meadows. Thank you for the head's up. I will never buy a home in there. Those homes are forever black listed.
Time for northerners to stop flocking here in groves. Overdeveloped and greed is why we are having these problems.
@@naturelover2292 Yup just as bad up here in Jax. Probably worse
@@naturelover2292 That's why we are called Damn Yankees: we come down and don't leave. Personally, I'm a Swamp Yankee up here and you couldn't pay me to live in Florida. I don't want to be one of those old men wearing black socks and sandals and driving a golf cart around.
can pick up a house cheap
@@mrhodes3140 Or see of you can float a loan…
Unfortunately in the US people buy into these expensive, crowded, overpriced development communities without questioning anything about the land, infrastructure, water source, quality of construction, nearby hazards, etc. It's really astonishing. We have to look below the packaging.
Moved to Florida in 2016 and purposely chose Central Florida as it's higher in elevation and away from the coast.
People tend to trust their real estate agent for those details.
People need to study the stormwater maps and drive around the area...look around during the rainy season... the summer. A lot of people come here in the Winter on vacation, and they have no idea what it's like here in the summer, rainy months, so they buy property or land while it's nice and dry during the winter. I feel bad for these folks. This is a nightmare.
When you build something in my community, you are required to get a zoning permit and building permit at a minimum. Above that, you made need a health permit and wet lands permit. I'm assuming the same applies in Florida and elsewhere. So if you housing, building, property is vetted and approved for permits and you receive a home occupancy certificate, one can assume that experts approved of the building plan/location.
@@matthewhowe3727Sorry boss, it's still not high enough due to ever rising sea level and even more severe hurricanes in the future. 😎
Mold grows quickly. Get a cheap commercial dehumidifier, an air scrubber, mold fogger and get to work. You can buy the first two cheap, and rent a mold fogger at HD.
I think it all has to be torn down. It's too waterlogged. The humidity is very high in Fla right now. It won't cool off here til enc of Oct/Nov. Black mold will grow fast. 😢
@@romeysiamese6662nope. It can’t be saved easily. Clean it out as the original poster suggested. It gets harder the longer people wait.
@@romeysiamese6662i know it feels like a Desert times 100 🥵
They salvaged a lot of the homes I thought would be torn down in Sanibel after Ian. They replaced the floors and the lowest few feet of drywall. I believe there’s hope, especially if started right away.
The inside of the houses have a foot or so of standing toilet water in them for the past five days. Most of those homes are destroyed inside and will require a lot of work on the drywall, floors, etc... they've lost all their appliances, furniture, vehicles... Mold will grow quickly, and I don't know what happens to the electrical wiring in the homes When the outlets are under water and such. This is awful.
Result of failed drainage pump which the county will never admit.
If a failed drainage pump is to blame, there needs to be backups put into place before the next tropical storm comes ashore. Is there a civil engineering firm who can make recommendations to prevent another tragedy? Or Army Corps of Engineers?
@MLenninger Army Corps of Engineers all ready done enough damage to Florida.
There comes a point where a drainage pump ain’t enough, Bud.
A drainage pile is a small bandage on a blown off leg. You Hager enough rain in one storm, and you will flood.
Wrong, same storm caused flooding all the way to NY and Quebec. Did they also have bad pumps, another keyboard expert
These places builders are building on was never supposed to be built as homes; it's considered swap land. But banks & Corporations don't care the people failed to do homework and now this.
It isn't swamp land. Most of the state sits on solid bedrock with high water tables. Learn your geography.
@@universalmother NO, SWEETIE NICE TRY. Typical white woman you have no history. Your people are born crooks!
What most do not realize about the term '100-year event' is that it has nothing to do with time (it is a drainage design tool for a 1% likelihood of occurrence), it is always changing with changes to the environment in the area, and an event occurring today does nothing to lessen the likelihood of an event occurring tomorrow. Back in the 50s, when this area was undeveloped swampland, a rainfall that would have triggered a 100-year flood may have been 30" in a 24-hour period. As more development occurs, runoff amounts from hard surface areas and less swamps to absorb the water result in larger inflows to the drainage system. So, the 30" of rain (110-year event) in 50s may have been lowered to 20" in the 70s, and 10" in the 2000s (examples, not true numbers). With the obvious expansion of development in this area, I would guess these parameters have not been updated to reflect the current drainage conditions in the area.
As a Floridian myself I say the entire state of Florida is a flooding zone. It won't be reported as a flooding zone because the houses won't sell if they do, so of course it will show as non-flooding. The insurances are even pulling out. I would probably cry like that too if that happens to me. I feel her pain and its your home probably with a high interest rate mortgage and hoa fees.
They've been selling swampland to buyers since the mid 1800's here in Florida.
This is what you selfish humans get for choosing things over life. Enjoy the fruits of your labor. 😂
@@matthewhowe3727Florida isn't swampland. Most of the state sits on solid bedrock. Draining water tables and destroying the ecosystem causes this. Selfish greed never pays well.
Many of these people have no flood insurance and will rebuild and it will happen again. Get out now
The whole area needs to be vacated they are a liability to the rest of Florida homeowners who pay insurance with their increases
Most can't afford to rebuild. They'll have to foreclose and move out.
@@rdee7406They are a liability to homeowners countrywide and not just to Florida homeowners. The entire nation's insurance industry is standing on a foundation of sand.😎
Many have no flood insurance because it's not a flood prone area. The same community has been flood-free since its construction more than 30 years ago, through hurricanes bigger and stronger than Debby. Debby just happened to drop more than 2 feet of rain in a very small amount of time in an already over-saturated area, in a Perfect Storm level confluence of unfortunate events. Owning a home comes with some risk no matter where you buy. A once in a century disaster can massively damage a house anywhere in the world.
@@ytadventurer9170 That really is the bottom line.
This country is going downhill fast with so many people dependent upon the government, especially when things like this happen. Everyone wants the nice house, the nicer vehicles, etc., make payments instead of saving up money for when things like this happen, no flood insurance because they'd rather live in a more expensive home and take the risk. Cuz the government will hopefully bail you out. It's not sustainable. Too many people trying to live beyond their means.
Besides the pollution running into coastal fisheries and imperable surface area leading to more flooding. Build smaller and leave natural habitat which adsorbs water but folks never care about that.
You don't know what happened? It was called a storm named Debby which brought a record amount of rain. I don't live in a flood zone in Lakewood Ranch, BUT I opted to pay an extra 250/year for flood coverage. Why? Because I saw what happened to Houston a few years ago. Why would tax payers have to cover for other people's losses and responsibility? Not to come across as cold, but we live in Florida and you need flood and wind coverage.
I agree I live in Ct were we have a trickling brook and we are required to have flood insurance with are mortgage because of it. I do not feel sorry for anybody who doesnt have it thinking it will not happen to me!! It irritates me when people expect Fema to take care of them.
It's just getting started Florida.
Nothing new, been occurring since development began in the mid 1800's.
@@matthewhowe3727 It is new, the people in the neighborhood said this has never happen before
What exactly? Hurricanes? This is the most Hurricane prone state, always has been. Floods bad in different areas every time.
@@Xx-po1fuSo because their neighborhood hasn't flooded before, means it's new for Florida? We are the main state for hurricanes. Always have been. This was nothing compared to tens of dozens of others.
Who approved building a subdivision in a low lying area with no drainage?
Think a better question would be "Who approved building a subdivision in a SWAMP?"
@@nukepuke932we have drainage systems but something was held up.
Storm drains can only handle so much. You can only make it storm drain reasonably so large. This storm was extremely slow-moving which dumped record amounts of rain. So do you think the county should have put a storm drain in the size of the Grand canyon so we would probably be safe? No of course not.
There were communities flooded in Georgia, S. Carolina, N. Carolina, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. Everywhere Debby went. So it was the storm more than anything else that was responsible.
I have to agree I feel badly for these people in the situation they’re in, but there’s so many other areas that got flooded as well. I feel we’re in Florida. We’re surrounded by water. There’s waters within the state when a hurricane comes through. It’s going to create a situation that is normally not there so this happened to unfortunately dump a lot of water into an area in a very short amount of time, what are you going to do that, I guess you have to deal with it. Everyone else in this state and all the other states that were affected.
@@bobbieabbottI live a couple hundred feet from this neighborhood. My home was spared by a matter of inches. Lots of people love to talk shit but this neighborhood was one of the original here. They’re 21 year old homes, 24 feet above sea level and this area has had zero drainage issues up to this point and that’s counting Ian and Irma. There is a lot more to this story they’re not talking about. Something went wrong and they’re trying to sweep it under the rug. I was stuck in my home for days wading through waist deep shit water just to find as soon as you go a half mile if that down the road everything is completely fine. Someone made a really bad call on this and it’s very apparent. The county fucked us over. We all know it.
@@Meatislife The county should not have allowed builders to build homes. They knew better. Padded their pockets.
I live in Rochester, NY and the flooding from Debby reached all the way into western NY where some people near Hornell, NY (about an hour fifteen minutes south of here) had their homes destroyed by flooding
And it wasn't even record rain! That woman is absolutely right! The Sarasota area doubled in population in the last 20 years. New construction sites everywhere! Manatee is for sure the same. Thousands of new homes and condos and businesses. Blame our Leaders, blame our Politicians! Changing farmland into residential! The main Philippi Creek storm drain can NOT handle this anymore! Of course the media would never talk about this and rather plays along with Commissioners and Contractors! Follow the money!
For the first time ever, Bradenton Raceway and Dragstrip was flooded! Why? Because of new construction sites all around and Land Clearing for future sites! Start the Lawsuits!
Ut oh, sounds like you're another one who doesn't understand how anything actually works. Suggest learning rather than continuing to be a bot swinging at punching bags that your mind controllers programmed you to focus on.
@@chronos401 I sense anger and hate. And the first big mistake is thinking you are smarter than everyone else in the room. LOL
@chronos401 Sounds like ur a transplant from Michigan
Tough break in a material world
A dear friend of mine on one of my visits to Florida, told me that developers had purchased a plot of land. The land was a swamp! They drained the water and filled the swamp up and then built up townhouses block by block. That was back in 1997. Well in 2017, those townhouses began to sink, water started to come into the foundations. Today, 2024, no one lives there. The property was condemned and the people there have no home. My friend took me there to look at those empty shells of townhouses. The alligators, and giant snakes and other critters now live in them. I thought who in their right mine (which obviously none of them were in nor the greedy developers and banks that gave out the money) didn't check this place out. People are so stupid and greedy, they don't look before they leap!
Bingo Bam! You nailed it 💯 correct
Northerners should stop obsessing over Florida and buying these homes. They are feeding off of their obsession. Build them and they will come
So much waste and garbage created.
Perfect description of Florida. And a majority of Floridians.
Aww poor rich people need help. What you needed was 2 brain cells to get flood insurance you took the risk to save a grand a year now you pay
Flood insurance is WAY more than a grand a year. Quadruple that.
Most can not get it in Fl. These people are not rich, they are middle income. The rich will be fine.
@@GillAgainsIsland12 Idk. According to google in Sarasota where this is located the average annual price for flood insurance is about $1,000 which is nothing for the people who live in this neighborhood, hell even $4,000 a year is nothing for these people. Yeah, It's sad what's happened and I wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but I've worked in this neighborhood for the last 6 years on a weekly basis and with the slightest bit of rain you'd literally see alligators swimming across the streets. Some of these people should've known better and got flood insurance.
@@taranicole1669 These houses are a reported million dollars whether that’s true or not is irrelevant. These are middle upper class people. I don’t want to hear it. They’re in an X flood zone they could’ve called Wright Flood at any point. I pay $500/yr for a 275k house in tampa X flood zone so BS
@@rdee7406 I did not know this. Houses have gotten really Stupid here in Fl. Do you think flood insurance will pay in situations like this? When a hurricane outside of Tampa a few yrs ago they did not cover anything. It was not cheap, insurance did not cover much. Most people here had issues. Lots seem to make it very hard.
All the attention given to Laurel Meadows leads people to believe that this was the only part of Florida that was severely affected by Debby; nothing could be further from the truth. 😎
I thought people in Florida didn't believe in Financial assistance from the Govt.
NO state government pays you to rebuild your house. Where did you get that idea?
Way to misrepresent people and strawman.
Only if it applies to the poor and minorities. But when it hits them, then they cry for "gubmint" handouts, lol
No it's the other way around, it's the government that believes in financial assistance from the people biggest moochers around.
They only believe after the hurricane. FEMA for everyone.
Those canals used to be all gravity flow back in the old days, but now due to sea level rise and storm surge they cant handle any runoff with out flood gates and pumps, once the ground is saturated the water will keep rising no matter how much pumping you can do.
I feel bad looking at this bloated development that destroyed unique natural habitat, not for some rich people who buy pools with landscaping and Humvees.
The Army Corps of Engineers did the same to the Everglades, ruining the natural ecosystem.
And where is your boy governor De Santis?
I thought he prayed the hurricanes away?
Governor of Sarasota County, Florida have a warning then discussed Hurricane Idelia ( the year before hurricane - in 2023 ). Sarasota Florida is completely destroyed about a week ago. Now Hurricane Ernesto has formed - watched yesterday, Friday August the 9th ,2024. He talked about how This Hurricane Debby will be the same path as Hurricane Idelia was about eleven to twelve months ago. He will be making a talk in a few days to tell you which Hurricane this Ernesto will be comparing it to another hurricane.
.....and what would be your solution?
Why should the governor be responsible for this? The homeowner should be responsible and they should have bought flood insurance. I don't live in a flood zone but I bought flood insurance
The clean up process would have blew me
When I lived in California, I watched so many people live in denial about the fires.
Now that I live in Florida, I see the same thing.
We are truly irrational beings.
The north east seems to be the safest area to live moving forward.
Always has been. It's just the crazy cost of living that drives people out.
It is. The only issue is millions of other people think so to. It's presently unaffordable.
Nope they got hit too. Tornadoes too.
Really? Cuz they have winter storms which cause lots of damage also with freezing rain and other things
Live in denial about fires?
Why does California have the largest aerial firefighting fleet in the world?
We had neighborhood that flooded like that years ago in Martinsville , Indiana . It was a rare rain storm that dumped 20 inches of rain in a hour . They were not allowed to rebuild and the homes were abandoned and torn down. It wasn't a floodplain.
Please stop moving to FL! This will continue to happen...overdevelopment and greed smh.
G-D’s is getting ready to punish Florida get out while you still have the opportunity to..
Do whatever you can to protect your homes from floods. Get some water barriers for your garage doors, or any door that has a potential for water to come in, they sell them online, its better than carrying sandbags and breaking you're back.
Live around water pay the price
we live in Florida. while i expect them to be disappointed why are they acting so shocked/surprised like this doesn’t happen somewhere in Florida every year?
People who live in a flood area in my country (not the US) have had the solution for this problem since like 2000 BC. Yeah, they traditionally build a 2-storey house. I'm baffled by these people who live in one of the richest and most developed country in the world and still build a one-storey house in a swamp area. Why??
Some of us can't handle stairs.
The same reason that people live in the mountains of California and don't understand why there are fires. Move
@@MLenningerbad diet and the joints go out. Most elderly people in Europe walk and climb stairs on daily basis. My grandma and grandpa walked up the fourth floor in their block building with groceries everyday. No problem.
Magical thinking and hubris. Not like hurricanes in Florida haven't been on record since the 1800s.
@@MLenningerlmfaoooo
Needing assistance and paying for insurance. What a scam. (INSURANCE IS A JOKE)
I feel so bad for these people but this is Florida.
My heart goes out her! That’s how the Lahaina residents felt same time last year.
It is well understood, that global warming has added more moisture to the air, so , when it rains , a lot more rain comes down than past years. I think the county will need to modify their flood zone maps to reflect the changes in the environment.
County commissioners weren't supposed to allow building East of I-75. Preserve the wetland corridor they said at the time. Money talks and business as usual.
I live in a swamp…I deny climate change…I voted for Trump…I demand a bailout to pay for my beach house
It's been a swamp for 10,000,000 years. Climate change has nothing to with it flooding.
And he lives rent free in your head! TDS! LOL 🤣
Exactly. They all want handouts from the Blue States. They all love Socialism when THEY need help, but never care about anyone else.
Obammy in the house.
And you are simply stupid for writing that.
So they went welfare, because they chose to live in a flood plain and not be insured
So sorry for your loss
“My dream home is built on a swamp in a hurricane prone area - taxpayers need to send me money so I can rebuild my dream home in a swamp in a hurricane prone area”🤔
Class action lawsuits against the people who allowed this development to be built, homes surrounded by worthless man-made canals that go nowhere and do not drain out, a low lying area with homes built at street level with very little elevation. and a lack of storm inlets made this development an accident waiting to happen. Low lying area with homes that cannot be raised so the first thing to do is to pump out the canals, fill them in and install grass to prevent this flooding from happening again.
That lady looks like her house is worth every bit of a half million dollars and she want somebody else to pay that's hilarious
Everyone in Florida should have flood insurance Mandatory
How come we arent hearing about thePine croft neighborhood?
Never figured out why people build in flood zones, buy a piece of land, put a house boat on it, water comes house floats .
I left the state of Florida over 20 years ago. I'm glad that I did.
I am so very sorry for your losses. I hope you had flood insurance. Just because the bank, your mortgage company says you are not on a flood zone, you need to look out for yourselves. Get flood insurance and with contents coverage. For those Floridians who don’t have it. Please get it.
Sounds like personal problems
How sad 😢
Best luck to all of you!
Praying for these people. Thank goodness it's stuff and not people hurt. Home owner insurance is not covering?
Many of these folks do not have flood insurance because much of this area is not.listed as "flood plain". Some of these houses will have to be demolished. Some will be so full of mold they're a disease pit now. And some of these folks are left with the clothes on their backs and nothing else.
Pray for the people in trailers they never asked for a cent then you have these entitled rich people wanting handouts of course
Only if they have flood insurance, which many don't.
@@GillAgainsIsland12Doesn't their flood insurance limits their coverage of up to 4 feet only ?
@@christinerisden5799 Not sure about that.
Time to elevate those houses instead of replacing items😮
NOT a flood zone?? It IS NOW, Honey!!!
Hunny bunny
I would say around 90% of Florida housing units are in flood zone. Sorry for your loss recombed you move it will get worse.
Huh? Quit making shit up
They need to make developers responsible for damage. They made a mistake
The mistake is the homeowner's not purchasing flood insurance. Sure people will say they're not in the flood zone but you don't have to be in the flood zone to get flooded out as this is proof of it. I live in Florida a few miles away and I bought flood insurance and I'm not in a flood zone
Where is Puss'n Boots?
Don’t buy bottom land
We know what happened. They shut the water control structures, to allow the rest of Sarasota drain out. At the cost of people’s homes east of the celery fields flood control area. It’s simple. That and 17.5” of rain. The town was draining and the water was rising out here
Prayers
The property values of all those properties has gone down a significantly. They will have a difficult time selling those properties.
All people who live in Florida need to understand that every were is a flood zone now even the 10 floor of a condo. This is humanities new reality and Floridians new reality
The sad thing is the GOP doesn’t care about them,nothing will be done to help them! Sorry.
This is the worst that can happen to your life. After the death of your dad, mum, kid or partner.
Didnt help katrina,
Remember the 80s, weather, the climate was great,' lepo vreme ', the yugoslav,ppz called it, and yooo,as soon as the war broke out,yoooo I remember the weather changed.
I believe there a combination of reasons for the climate change, not just the neglect of the natural environment.
I would be living in a car if my home was flooded
The president is at the beach and the VP is MIA.
People that think they’re safe in Florida should be on their own. Just cuz it’s not a flood zone, WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN FL and with hurricanes. How ANYONE can afford Florida is because they have $$$$. It’s past time to get outta there.
Next week will be Ernesto. Where is the governor in his white boots.
Making sure all the child groomers are staying safely out of State.
I got Apopka lake down the street from my house and I still haven't flooded been here for 20 years. Same house. Been to like 10 or 15 hurricanes in this house. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤷🏼
Even Florida's flood zone map shows that's a flood zone. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I feel so bad for all people because hurricanes are going to get more frequent 😢
In Florida we're not strangers to hurricanes. We got hit by 4 in a month in 2004. That hasn't happened since.
mrs kim I’m sorry2️⃣ tell yu but tha gov or fema not gon help . they didn’t even help tha ppl in hurricane katrina n etc etc .
or Ian. FEMA causes more problems than it's worth.
No flood insurance right? I’m sorry for them.
Ill stay in ga...too many people moving to fla...ill pass
Nobody deserves pain
Needing assistance once, okay, twice maybe, 3 or4 times. ASSIST YOURSELF.
Keep building in Florida! 🙄
Someone definitely messed up.
DO NOT REBUILD EVERYONE VACATE DO NOT REBUILD EVERYONE VACATE DO NOT REBUILD EVERYONE VACATE DO NOT REBUILD EVERYONE VACATE
They don't have much choice. Rebuilding is at least $100k. They'll have to foreclose and ruin their credit.
Hope she has flood insurance.
Epic infrastructure fail for sure. County is rotten.
Yet the same storm caused flooding in NY and Quebec
People are bragging about moving to Florida as much these days🤣
The whole east coast got flooded. The Karen's of Sarasota are the last people that need bailing out.
Don't they have home and contents insurance? In the UK virtually all of us have both just incase.
No they don’t. Insurance companies refuse to insure millions in Florida
The cost is out of reach for most. $10-$15,000/yr.
Flood insurance is bloody expensive in Florida, so many folks who aren't in a listed flood plain don't have it.
@@christinebutler7630no it’s not. I pay a little over 500/yr on a 275k townhome in Tampa granted I’m 7 miles inland in an X zone but so were these people
No, flood insurance is sold by the government. The same government creates flood zone maps. Fire, theft, hurricane, earthquake that's different.
every flooded house, apartment, need help from government. do you people , think that will happend? or just for someone?
Yeah the biggest failure was building where you shouldn't have and mother nature let you know it
No matter what not everyone willl get help it’s a total messss
I agree they need help, but they have encountered a disaster by nature on nature and lifes terms.
There are thousands and hundreds of thousands of poor who also had their homes taken on floods and do tehy get help? Answers?
But if you Google it it says it's a fucking flood zone. But they say it's not a flood zone. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You all just lost half the value of your house. List it for sale and take what you can.
You can have your dream home in a state that doesn’t flood. It doesn’t have to be Florida.
Who in their right mind would buy these cheaply built houses which are now waterlogged?
i thought it was sunny and 75 there all year round
Get to the bottom of what occurred?? The neighborhoods are built on low, lying swamp land! When we get enough rain over a short amount of time, these areas will flood! The other Neighborhoods that they build around their don’t help they also should not be built on! This is the price you pay building on uninhabitable land.
"The wheels of progress grind slowly"...sad
Didn't meatball pass out some white rubber boots ?
You're wearing them.
TILE FLOORS NEXT TIME the crap hoses right out.. easy clean..
We had terrazzo floors in our one story cement block (covered with stucco) houses, all of which were built a block away from the actual beach! But that was the 1950's, when people weren't so stupid and greedy.
State and local disaster relief is for short term temp housing and food. Its not FEMA and idk if they will call for the federal government to kick in with federal state of emergency FEMA funding for certain counties that qualify. It used to be a lot easier and with more fed funding available. With so many natural disasters in the past 20+ years who knows if theres any funding left.
PSA…Whether you live in a flood zone or not, if you don’t have flood insurance, you are playing Russian roulette. It’s very inexpensive and can save your @$$.
IF YOU HAVE A NON RECOURSE LOAN LET THE BANK HAVE IT......MOVE ON RENT WITH A LOT LESS STUFF DONT WASTE YOUR LIFE REBUILDING.,,,,DONT ASK THE GOVERNMENT FOR HELP, .......do not pay another payment to the bank.....
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